https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPIMWCCG4fg
I love this guy and thank you to whoever brought his name up first on PF. It could not be a better time to have him get traction given Orlando and the left's power grab on the 2nd.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPIMWCCG4fg
I love this guy and thank you to whoever brought his name up first on PF. It could not be a better time to have him get traction given Orlando and the left's power grab on the 2nd.
I've watched a few of his videos post Orlando and I too love the way he speaks. He must give the left hissy fits: a gay guy hammering Islam. I may subscribe to his YouTube channel and watch more. Wonder if that will put me on the no fly list.
I may have posted one of the ones you saw. He was pretty interesting to listen to. Havent watched this one yet.
That was fantastic and deserves two snaps with a Z formation. Preach on brother!
He has a weekly podcast that isn't bad, I've listened to the first few. I like Milo.
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I hear him on Brietbart on Patriot Radio frequently!
He has done podcasts with Joe Rogan and Adam Carolla. Found both quite entertaining.
Milo as "Daddy's" VP? If it weren't for the fact he's a brit i'd be all like...
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I like Milo a lot, we need more like him.
Milo is entertaining and possesses a high verbal IQ.
Do not worship false idols.
I looove his line at the end: the left's empty, platitudinous crap. The whole thing is worth watching just for that.
I disagree with all bigotry as a general principle, as I hope you would as well, but his anti-Islamic bigotry will do for a start.
You may think that Milo is some sort of breath of fresh air, especially being uniquely postured (as a right wing queer) to respond to Orlando, but he has offered nothing that hasn't been heard time and again since 9/11.
To put a finer point on it: I just listened to Sam Harris (the famous atheist) in the same breath condemn Trump for his pigishness but praise him for his "moral clarity" in saying "America must unite the whole civilized world in the fight against Islamic terrorism." (I guess Hillary has not said anything this "bold", although I'm sure she has said many things just as empty.) If Trump has a plan to "unite the world" (including Muslim countries) he has yet to roll it out. I won't count on him doing so either.
So Orlando has given the usual suspects the opportunity to say the usual things. What they won't ever say is that it is time for a louder and more open conversation with America's Muslims--who are no more nutty than America's white population of spree killers--about just how to create the worldwide response to jihadism that we are all crying out for.
The reason why this conversation never happens is because no one wants to give the microphone to Muslims, even moderate Muslims. White, Christian Americans, be they right wing or left wing (such as myself) have no desire to elevate that religious perspective, even for strategic purposes.
This means that liberals must resort to mealy-mouthed responses to terrorism designed to keep America's hate on a low simmer, while the right wing pretends to have an answer that they never get around to revealing, because their only real strategy is violence, which naturally plays right into the hands of terrorists, who more than anything want American Muslims to become aliens in their own land. All the better to recruit them!
Interesting first couple of posts on a gun forum.
So you are deriding Sam Harris because he dislikes Trump yet does not condemn everything en masse that Trump says? Or if I misunderstood you, are you taking umbrage with Sam not calling out Trump on his lack of a detailed plan to unite the whole world in the fight against Islamic terrorism?
May I assume that when you complain that no one wants to give moderate American Muslims a voice, that you are not referring to CAIR? I think it is fairly clear that you do think that American Muslims can aid America in the fight against Islamic terrorism that you say is "no more nutty than America's white population of spree killers", correct? What is that solution they offer? Not to anger them further or more killing sprees will occur? They'll be forced to radicalize?
Also, you're being obviously myopic or uninformed when you claim that only the right wing in America mulls or conducts violence against terrorism. The Democratic Party and their candidate are quite fond of armed intervention, missile strikes, etc.
I don't know how not to conclude from your last post that you're blaming American treatment for acts of Islamic terrorism such as Orlando. Furthermore, it's a sad sign of the time we live in when a self professed "liberal" doesn't first and foremost acknowledge the both cultural and religious equal rights problems endemic with the world's Muslim population. Islam seems to be still suffering from the blast backwards into time that the Mongols dealt them and it's high time Islam has its own Renaissance and figured out how to get out of the yoke of theocracy.
That being said, I'd prefer we frack every last bit of oil in America and drain the North Slope fields before we give another dime in commerce or foreign "aid" to those backwards shitholes that are only beacons of humans rights abuses and fanatical theocracy.
I am saying that although Harris (in the audio I listened to) clearly thinks Trump is a boob, even he cannot help but swoon at the barest scrap of "moral clarity". But what Trump said was political boilerplate of the most predictable sort. Anyone could have said what Trump said, and I'm sure many have. It's 15 years since 9/11. We don't need an invitation to join hands with the rest of planet earth. Tell us how it's done, Don, or STFU.
The solution is a long game, and will not come from any one voice. CAIR does not have a formula, neither do Democrats or Republicans. But we could have an ongoing engagement with Muslims on a regular basis to clarify where the threat in this country and abroad is coming from, and where it is not, the proper institutions to single out for condemnation after an event like Orlando, the ones that have nothing to do with that kind of thinking, and in essence build bridges within our country that will slowly neutralize the appeal of jihadist recruiters. Instead, we are always in reaction mode, blaming the wrong people or giving pats on the head to people who can speak for themselves.Quote:
May I assume that when you complain that no one wants to give moderate American Muslims a voice, that you are not referring to CAIR? I think it is fairly clear that you do think that American Muslims can aid America in the fight against Islamic terrorism that you say is "no more nutty than America's white population of spree killers", correct? What is that solution they offer? Not to anger them further or more killing sprees will occur? They'll be forced to radicalize?
I am not a liberal, I am a leftist. As for the problems within Islam broadly, those are problems that have been there for a long time, and to a certain extent are present in all conservative religious thought. Regardless, our problem is not with "Islam", or we would have been having this conversation long before 9/11. The problem is the jihadi movement. It is Islamic and religious in nature, yes, but if you expect every good Muslim in the world to rise up in outrage and end the problem for us, then I'm sure there are some Muslims who would like to know when America will bring democracy to China. (I'm sure there are a lot of Tibetans who would like to know as well.)Quote:
I don't know how not to conclude from your last post that you're blaming American treatment for acts of Islamic terrorism such as Orlando. Furthermore, it's a sad sign of the time we live in when a self professed "liberal" doesn't first and foremost acknowledge the both cultural and religious equal rights problems endemic with the world's Muslim population. Islam seems to be still suffering from the blast backwards into time that the Mongols dealt them and it's high time Islam has its own Renaissance and figured out how to get out of the yoke of theocracy.
As for Islam's Renaissance, I am all for it. But we cannot force it anymore than Sweden could force single payer health care on us.
I think I like this Milo kid; thanks for bringing him to my attention.
Deathray, I think you misinterpret Harris' comment on Trump's "moral clarity."
He was not referring to the underlying substance, or lack thereof, of the Don's proclamation. He was acknowledging that Trump was addressing the problem and not going off on a tilt against the AR-15 shaped windmill.
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I think you have some valid points that merit some decent discussion. While you take a different approach (I'm more of a conservative libertarian), I like hearing and discussing things from different angles.
That being said, you jumped in with your first post like this is prison and you had to find the biggest MOFO and sock him in the nose.
Let's start here: are you into guns?
Nope, although I find the issues surrounding them interesting. I came here for the discussion on Milo.
Harris does make a valid point about the AR-15 not being the relevant issue, as handguns are deadlier in mass shootings. The problem is, of course (from the liberal point of view), that if you can't bring up "military" style weapons like AR-15s or AKs (or what have you) after a mass shooting, then you can't have the discussion at all, since the press and public are far quicker to shut down a debate if you suggest any regulations on plain ol' pistols. Meanwhile, the problem continues with no solutions, year after year. I'm for an ammunition tax myself.
There is already an ammunition tax.
A forum is a place for polite, two-way discourse, where the end result is that we all learn something. The "two-way" discourse involves sharing your opinion, and learning something from the opinions of others.
I understand that you are not into guns, and that you only came here to discuss Milo. I think I understand the "opinion that you wish to share", so my question is, what are you hoping to learn from others on this topic?
I mean this with the sincerest and most polite of intents.
I'll expound:
Whites and Blacks commit mass murders at a fairly consistent rate with their population percentage.
Asians commit mass murders at a much higher rate considering population percentage, and Latinos commit mass murder at a much lower rate.
The phrase "White population of spree killers" is absurd, illogical, and unjustified.
Taxing ammunition with the intent of preventing crime only serves to punish civilians/law enforcement officers who participate in legal recreational sport shooting and/or training. Look into the amount of ammunition fired at a single training class or shooting match. We (the good guys) shoot way more ammunition than they do. (the bad guys: Violent criminals)
Mass murderers who have decided on a terminal trajectory towards committing a horrific act could easily sell personally owned items to fund a purchase of a couple hundred rounds with or without the tax. But our civilians and law enforcement officers who frequently choose to hone their skills by firing that many rounds per day of a class/match will be punished.
I know plenty of officers who practice quite a bit with personally purchased ammunition in order to increase their skills. Surely, you must admit that these individuals don't deserve to be taxed at an even higher rate?
He's not perfect (his comments on atheists for one, but then this is America and he's allowed to have his opinion and express it. You know, that thing the Left HATES so much) but i think his heart and intention is in the right place and direction. I can no-homo-man-crush on the guy for what he says that I agree with, and respectfully disagree with him on the things I don't. At the end of the day he seems to present his ideas from the avenue of logic and reason; I'll raise a pint to anyone who does that.
So, you just basically Google the name of that narcissistic douche and, whenever you see it appear in a forum, you register an account there to debate about him, whether that forum is about handguns, herpetology, or hentai? Are you, like, a lone anti-Milo internet ronin?
Build bridges? Neutralize appeal to jihad?
We used to have this thing called assimilation that worked quite well.
The left is 100% liable for its demise.
We have been lectured, brow beaten, slandered, and libeled by the left and 'social justice warriors' for decades upon decades: assimilation is hegemony, racist, sexist, micro-aggression, etc...
The left has worked assiduously to create protected groups in reaction to 'White America' and its paternalistic, racist, misogynist, ways.
We now have protected groups fighting each other and the left is in a complete mental tailspin trying to figure out how we got here.
The left has no answer here. We have been living under false paradigms invented by the left that have created the adversarial situations we have right now between protected groups.
There is your bed...have fun sleeping in it.
I blame the Designated Hitter Rule.
I need some coffee...
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Oh, a polite conversation is revelatory in itself. If we are moving ON from Milo to guns (imagine!), I suppose I would be most interested in what y'all think is the answer to the mass killing epidemic. I'm getting a little tired of seeing flags at half mast, aren't you?