Thanks. I've tried my best to make sure they're not twisted, but no matter how hard I hold on to that front sight while I'm tightening it down, I always "feel" like I get some movement [emoji17]
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I shot this drill for the first time this afternoon, kind-of as an afterthought following a session of a bunch of gamer entry and exit practice. I realized, after I got home, that apparently I can't freaking follow directions (or read), as I only shot 3 strings at the 15. :( I'm posting it anyway.
Pistol was a Sig 226, shot freestyle. No score.
The strings were as follows:
18.34
8.86
7.68
7.88
The hit at 2 o'clock was a heeled DA from the first string at 15. The rest of the points down all came at the 25 and were low. I'm not a bullseye guy but I was holding at the 6 o'clock b/c it seems easier for me to hold there. May have to reevaluate my zero for this pistol. Or learn to hold on the center instead of lollipoping the black. IDK.
Anyway...
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266 (2x7; 7x8; 14x9; 7x10 [1x]).
G17 Gen4; 10-8 .156 rear, Dawson .125"x.235" tritium front painted orange; unmodified internals. Ammunition was my 130PF 124gr plated reloads (124gr XTreme, .114 OAL, 4.6gr Win 231, Win SPP). While I'm hesitant to blame the hardware for my performance, I do think this may have held me back a bit (explained below). Shot freestyle.
This was shot cold. It's also the first time I've shot at 25 yards in quite some time and the first time I've done anything but dry fire in a few weeks. Frankly, I was pleased to keep most of the rounds in the black (6/10) as I've been "needing work" at 25 for about two years now (prioritized other things). Moving to the 15 yard line, the first group was fine. I should have slowed down a bit and worked more at the trigger pull, but all rounds remained in the black. Had I slowed down more I feel I could have shifted some of those left 9s into the 10. Stupidity struck on the final two strings, as I burned through those with splits between .3 and .4 seconds. Mentally, I allowed the beep to shift me back into "fire as fast as you can guarantee B8 hits" pace and I dropped three shots into the white as a result. I've been reading a lot of Bolke/Dobbs and the shooting/dry practice I've been doing has involved <10yd rapid hits to the B8; I reverted back to that on the 15yd line rapid fire.
Having said all of that, for cold performance and with a wider front/rear sight than I'm used to (practice gun uses .115/.140) I'm pleased with how it turned out.
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Lessons learned:
- Just like when I shot this in a previous class, I had plenty of time. I really should have taken advantage of that. Dropping the points I did at 15 was dumb.
- I can reliably pull .3s guaranteed in-the-black hits at 5-10 yds. I cannot do so at 15yds yet.
- Frankly, it's my first big batch of reloads (did about 2.5K the other week after load development) and I have never fired it for group at 25 yards outside of load development (produced a ~3" group back in February, PF was right, feel was good so I kept it). I noticed all of my first five rounds at 25 yards were trending left (3 clearly in the white, one breaking the scoring line). I held a few inches right and the group centered up into the black. Moved up to 15 yards and the first string remained in the black but definitely trending left. I adjusted my hold slightly and things went centered. Accordingly, I kept that hold for the remainder of my course of fire. As a control/verification that my carry gun's sights were indeed on, I fired 10 rounds of 124gr GDHP +P (carry ammo + ammo I used to zero the sights) at 25 later in the session. All but one was in the black using a center hold; windage was centered, POI was tip of the front sight. To be clear, I don't believe I'm any more accurate than my load is -- my groups would not have shrunk by any means. I do however think that I would have improved had I been more aware of POA/POI with this load. Takeaway: know my POI for the given load if anything important is on the line.
A better run today: 278/300. 17 of those were in the 10-ring, and only one went into the 7 (called miss at 25). Overall, took more time with the strings, especially the 25yd shots.
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Tried this twice more yesterday. PX4CC, freestyle from a low ready, 124gr Blazer Brass FMJ. Both runs were back to back as my first drills of the range session.
On my first attempt, I ended up shooting very low and have a ton of rounds in the 7 and 8 rings. I also shanked two rounds on the 15y strings which continues to annoy me. Final score: 228.
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The 25y string on my second attempt went pretty damn well for me. 91/100 which is the best I've ever done on a 10 round string at that distance.
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The next four strings did not go as well. I threw two more off paper, again to the right in almost the exact spots the previous two paper misses were. Final score: 246.
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The good: My group has less rightward bias than the last time.
The bad: I'm still not managing my time properly. My 15s strings were completed in 8.xx, which is how long it took me to run my 10s strings. I bet if I slowed down, I wouldn't be tossing 15y shots in the garbage.
Also, I still can't figure out how to make the photos appear in the correct orientation. My apologies to anyone reading my post on a desktop computer. Sorry I'm making you crank your neck over.
Yeah it takes a bit of practice to get a sense of 15 seconds and that extra time is pretty important.
I ran a couple dry runs to re-tune for the 15 sec pace yesterday. Also with the LB Operator, 279.
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Shot this on 3/18 with my CZ 75 using cheap UMC ball ammo.
String 1 (25 yds) = 6 x 10, 2 x 9, 1 x 8, 1 x 6 = 90/100 – 2X
String 2 (15 yds, 15 sec x2) = 4 x 10, 4 x 9, 1x8, 1x7 = 91 / 100 – 0X
String 3 (15 yds, 10 sec x2) = 4 x 10, 4 x 9, 2x8 = 92 / 100 – 2X
Total = 273 / 300
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Overall not great. Feel like I should be shooting better at 25 yds, but honestly haven't focused on longer range shooting as much in past few weeks/months. On the shorter distances, I didn't drop a ton of points but also should have shot it better. In terms of using my time, I was inconsistent on the speed on strings 2 and 3. Occasionally rushing then slowing down to get hits, or starting too slow and rushing to make time. Feel like I could do a lot better overall with some practice.
4/1
Shot this with G19 #2, basically my first outing with the G19. Used UMC ball ammo. Pretty rough go of it with the new gun.
25 yds: 10+9+8+8+8+8+7+7+0+0 (two flyers high left) = 65/100
15 yds in 15 sec: 10+9+8+8+0 / 10X+10+9+8+8 = 80 / 100
15 yds in 10 sec: 10+9+9+8+8 / 10X+9+8+8+8 = 87 / 100
Total = 232 / 300
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Well, what a let down from the last run with the CZ 75.
What I noticed – shoots high. Also, misses hurt your score a lot. I think it’s a combo of new sights, shorter sight radius and trigger control that I need to work through. Maybe dedicated work to better accuracy shooting free style at longer distances. Plan to shoot this drill or similar more.
Shot this on 2nd outing with the G19 (#2) on 4/7 at the NRA range.
Pistol used: G19 (#2) with PMC bronze.
Shot this freestyle
Total score for all strings combined = 235 (4X) / 300
Anything you noticed - I improved significantly on the first 2 phases. However, the faster paced strings at 15 yards wrecked me this time. Shots all over the place and not even consistently off in one direction. Need to work on the grip and trigger more. May be that PMC just recoils faster/harder than UMC which may be a bit on the underpowered side.
String 1 far left, String 2&3 right
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String 4&5 below
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Shot this for a 3rd time with a G19 on 4/15 at the NRA range.
Pistol used: G19 (#2) with 115 grain UMC ball
Shot this freestyle
Total score for all strings combined = 262 (4X) / 300
My first string at 25 yard still sucks. Shots tended to go high there, and had a complete Mike, and shot 75/100 overall. The 15 yard strings were much better, with a 95 and 92. Annoyed at myself since I shot the 2nd 10 sec string way too fast, and cost myself a ton of points. That said, overall much more improved. Looks like I need to work on >15 yd shooting a bit with the G19 plus do more wall drills and work the grip + trigger.
25 yds:
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15 yd, 15 sec:
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15 yd, 10 sec:
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