Think you're right, expanded bullets looked very similar at a quick glance save for the post. Looking closer the different cuts and crimping give a different type of expansion also - wider spaced and longer petals.
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40 and 45 in stock:
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/fede...-p-110241.aspx
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/fede...-p-110240.aspx
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A friend just scored 10 boxes of the 124 9mm “Punch” ammo at ~$0.50/round (industry deal) and we will be testing this week. Looks just like an HST, but it has a soft lead core and is probably a lot cheaper to make.
Might make for a good alternative to actually training with HST, which has gotten stupid expensive in the current circumstances.
I used to get all caught up in ammo performance- whats the best, etc. Now, I don't care. At the end of the day it's all the same. As long as it reliably ignites and delivers acceptable accuracy, it's fine. The majority of the ammo that "works great for me" is never actually used for its intended purpose. With the huge shifts in what performance is expected out of ammo it seems to me that we can all just shift back to the old XTP and get what we "need", will likely never actually "use", save some cash on "old bullet tech", and move on with our lives.
If I could find some 124gr XTPs @ ≥1150fps I'd order 5 cases once prices dropped a bit and be done buying 9mm HP ammo for a good while. I'd do the same thing for 180gr @ ≥950fps, and 230gr @≥ 875 fps.
Federal Punch looks like an overpriced, watered down HSTish like bullet that Federal put some catchy advertising on to sell for $1.25/round. I'd wager the cheap UMC 115gr JHP will produce similar results when applied equally IRL.
Cue my scolding for 'Ammunition Forum Blasphemy'.
Guy shoots gel block from 40 yards with an LCR and Federal Punch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct8l...ist=WL&index=2