i tried this in the gunshop it worked just like my stock LX2, just brighter. no funky switching modes or anything unexpected
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No, I have not used the strobe for anything other than the occasional mess with a friend. Because I find the strobe disorients me just as much as the person I am strobing, may more so. Seriously, I don't go to dance clubs, because of the strobe lights.
And okay, I'm going to be that jerk now, people keep saying, "Get good low-light training" - WHO does quality low-light training, that is applicable, for a concealed carrier, on the street? Because trying to find some is almost as hard as trying to find quality emergency first aid training. I can swing a dead cat and find enough handgun, knife, or hand to hand training to make one vomit (like me when a strobe is activated), but finding quality low-light training has been difficult.
The low-light training I have had was very basic, but taught me a few things. First, I don't need to use the light as much as I think I do and second that for me, when deploying a light in a defensive scenario, it's pretty much a "Light it up, to shoot straight" scenario.
tomr--the EAG Fury lights are special single-output, clicky tail-cap switch models of the SureFire P2X/P3X Fury Tactical LED lights made for Pat Rogers of EAG. They are available through BCM: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/SureF...-eag-click.htm. For a defensive light I strongly prefer single output and do not like dual switching.
I typically have several light sources available:
Defensive hand-held: As bright as possible with a single output, click tail cap; only for critical tasks like searching and target ID (currently a SF P2X/P3X Fury EAG).
Utility hand-held: A low to moderate brightness light for every-day non-critical lighting tasks and simple short distance navigation (currently a Photon micro light and SF EB1, along with my cel phone).
Weapon mounted light: As bright as possible w/rear toggle switch only used for final target ID and shooting, never for searching or general illumination (currently a SF x300u)
Headlamp: Adjustable intensity for daily general purpose tasks in dark like reading, as well as longer distance navigation and field first aid (currently a SF Minimus)
I have yet to find a defensive light for target ID and searches that is "too bright". When we had 60 lumens, I wanted 100; when we got 100 lumens, I desired 200; when 300 lumens became available, I craved 500 lumens; when 500 lumens appeared, I lusted for 1000; now that 1000 is available, I am a bit more satisfied, but wouldn't mind 1500 in a smaller two cel format...
I received outstanding training at Thunder Ranch (DHG2 low light). That was a century ago, but it was good stuff then.
From what I gather, HiTS seems to have a tremendous amount of cred with respect to, among other things, light use.
Ken Good seems to be treated as an ultimate authority on the subject, but it looks like he is LE/MIL only -- which is appropriate, referencing my earlier post.
In my experience having a strobe mode is relevant for personal defensive applications in low light. Reactions to it are generally "Whoa! Ugh." Sometimes that can be enough of a deterrent, or a split second to regain the initiative. Your "Light it up, to shoot straight" scenario seems very last resort in application, and I'm hoping that it includes a level of identification and shoot/no-shoot decision.
If you find strobes disorientating when you use them, that sounds more like a personal preference, which is fine, but not a reason to say that they are ineffective.
As for low-light training, I did a range session with TLG called "Low-Light and Target ID" and have taken SouthNarc's AMIS which he'll say isn't a low-light course, but he does cover his theory and his basic application of flashlights in context.
I should have been clearer. A flashlight in the defensive context is to me a tool with two main purposes - Target ID and to allow you to hit what you're aiming at. It can also be used to surprise and disorient an attacker, but I have not found very many scenarios/contexts where that is particularly important to flashlight deployment, for the average concealed carrier.
FWIW - I've read this thread: http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.p...ght=Flashlight - About five times over the years, found and read Ken Good's book, and trained in low-light at Thunder Ranch and with a smaller trainer in Texas.
-Rob