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I just watched the video, and I don't like Pannone's reholster technique very much. He really slams that P-07 into the holster, like he's engaging a retention holster. There's no reason to do that, and good reason not to. Contrast that with @Mr_White 's holstering technique, where there is a deliberate deceleration, and plenty of time to feel a problem before something bad happens. And, as I mentioned earlier, I prefer to place my thumb on the hammer to 1) verify that the gun is decocked, and 2) feel if the hammer is coming back due to an obstruction to the trigger.
The young guys at the local gun store took more interest in the SCD than most cops I know. The keep your finger of the trigger and nothing can or will go wrong mindset is strong. They ignore the idea that we all make mistakes or that outside factors can lead to bad things. In fact they almost have a condescending view of more safety steps.
Of course keeping your finger of the trigger is the ultimate safety step, but it doesn’t hurt to have others.
First centerfire handgun I ever shot was a Beretta 92 back around 1992. First one I bought was a Ruger P89 then got rid of that for a Glock 23 in 1994. Since then I’ve had some 3rd Gen Smiths and various Glocks and M&P’s. I’m swinging back to DA/SA and metal frames myself. Just picked up a 92A1 that I’ll be switching to this year for work and retiring the Gen3 Glock 22 RTF2 again.
I guess as I’m getting older I just appreciate the better SA trigger over the striker fired guns and there is just something about metal frame guns that keep drawing me back. The 92A1 comes with 17rd mags so I’m not losing capacity to most full size 9mm striker guns. I’m lucky to work where I can use mostly whatever I want except single actions.
May next decision is which DA/SA gun I’m getting for off duty since I want to stay consistent for action types on and off.
This, so much this. The DAO has a terrible image problem with the general shooting population, but in reality, I think it offers an awful lot of advantages with few disadvantages. I suspect part of the problem is that most of those disadvantages show up more apparently in competition/gaming than they do in real-life duty and defense use and, like it or not, games are driving the market more and more these days. Hence we get people running Skimmers, etc. even in their carry guns, because, hey, it worked so well in the IDPA club matches they shot last year and "OMG, my splits!".
Compared to the shorter learning curve of striker guns, the DAO just seems too arcane for many people. At the institutional level, getting good quals means a bit more time, money, and effort teaching people (often people with limited enthusiasm for shooting) how to gain the advantages of the DAO. Those are three things that most organizations are already short of, and since you don't really appreciate the advantages of the DAO until you either examine the issue from all angles or actually experience them, there isn't much impetus to spend precious resources overcoming the more elongated learning curve. To slightly paraphrase Charles MacKay from Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, "The crowd does not form a new average, it finds the lowest common denominator." Striker fired actions fit the most apparent needs of the lowest common denominator, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but does eclipse some really strong benefits that the extra investment in DAO can bring. Ironically, the DAO also meets the needs of the lowest common denominator in some other important ways, but those seem to get lost in the shuffle more now than they did in, say, the early 1990s.
Not saying it's the only good option, or even that it's always the best option, but DAO is almost always something to take a long look at for people interested in pistols for serious purposes.
It is likely an unknowable quantity how many stock Glocks have had a defect causing them to fire.
I'm looking at elements of design.
Frame, slide, sear, striker, FPB, FPB spring, any one of those could be off spec or all could be off spec (tolerance stacking) leading to a UD. You could say the same thing about a DA/SA pistol or 92 specifically, but the list would be much, much longer, and at the end of it you still have a hammer that you can control.
I'm not afraid to admit I'm capable of having an AD. Not sure where this comment derives from...but as a human I'm supremely fallible.
Full disclosure: I have a safe stuffed full of Glocks. I shoot them better than my Berettas, with more consistency. However in analyzing the full spectrum of firearm use I find added comfort in a zero-energy trigger system.
Wow, how did I miss this shit-show of a thread until now? ;P
I’ve been down this road so many times in my head over and over it’s not even funny. Weighing the pros and cons of this trigger system vs that trigger system and yadda yadda yadda.
The fact of the matter is that there isn’t any one system that is inherently superior than the others in general and overall. Each and every single one of them is a balancing act of pure shootability vs raw perceived safety. At the end of the day they’re all tools that the end user must wield competently. And that right there is the rub. Can the end user wield the tool competently? If you’re following the 4 rules then it doesn’t ultimately doesn’t matter what you’re running/carrying/shooting.
What’s great about this place is that we can intelligently dive into the minutiae on everything and learn something, but sometimes it’s our own undoing. Paralysis by analysis coupled with devout preference for what we like breeds an interestingly special kind of derp. We need to get past that and appreciate the various tools we have at our disposal and boy howdy do we have a crap load of decent tools from which to select these days.
Here are the things that I think are important. Is your chosen pistol platform durable, reliable, and devoid of obvious defects? Are you the end user able to wield said tool safely and competently? If you can honestly and assuredly answer both questions with a yes...then who gives a crap what you carry?
Buy, carry, and maintain quality hardware. Be safe, don’t suck, and fix your software. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Jerry Miculek can kick your ass with a wheelgun. Architect Allan can carry a 1911 everyday. Rotary Club Rachel might have a PPK in her purse. Whomever you are just get better than you were yesterday.
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