Originally Posted by
jlw
You are way, way off base from anything that I have posted. I haven't written anything close to what you are suggesting.
You know when I write a post I'm not just responding to what you wrote? There are posters in this thread other than you.
I haven't seen any of the impacted instructors post anything to what you are suggesting.
It's been said that Pat Mac isn't going to honor the course fees already paid by students. (I don't know if he did or didn't, and he might very well change that anyway.) Or maybe it was Jeff Gonzales At the very least, JoshRunkle said we shouldn't expect Pat Mac to honor the fees and "work for free." That's what prompted my first reply in this thread.
What the instructors are saying is that they haven't been paid for past classes. Not a single one of them has posted anything about those students needing to send money. I haven't seen a single person here post anything to that effect.
Of course they haven't. They would be ridiculed if they did. That's my point. But the logic of saying the students are responsible for eating the already paid fees for future classes that are now cancelled dictates that that students should also be responsible for making sure instructors get paid for classes that have already been held for which Alias didn't pay the instructors.
What the instructors are saying is that they are not going to teach any future classes on the Alias schedule. They are also saying that they have not received any money paid towards those classes and that those seeking refunds need to seek them from the entity that received said money, and that is Alias.
Yes, by all means students should be trying to get the money back themselves from Alias but the question is also what happens if Alias declares bankruptcy and the fees are gone/spent and its a case of trying to get blood from a turnip? What happens then? Should students eat the $525 for a Pat McNamara class, or should he hold the class anyway? (My argument would be that he should, since he's the one that decided to use Alias and therefore the risk that Alias would close up shop and lose the money is one he should have considered when hiring them to work for him. You can't just say "It's not Pat's or Jeff's fault." Yeah, it is kinda his fault, in the sense he hired Alias to do work for them. That's all.)
I applaud LAV and Craig (extending credit to students if they don't get their money back).