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WDW
05-20-2011, 11:41 AM
Let's hear what everybody wishes the manufacturers would build. Perhaps a variation on a gun already in existence or a completely new idea. It doesn't have to be practical or useful (i.e. the Judge). Everybody post their top 3.
1. A single stack, SA .45ACP version of the Beretta 92
2. A double stack Sig P220
3. A single stack Glock 21.

I'm not very creative I guess, but these are definitely guns I would buy if they were available.

jslaker
05-20-2011, 11:49 AM
A SIG P22x series with the ergos revised so that the slide stop is out of the way of my stronghand thumb would be nice.

JV_
05-20-2011, 11:50 AM
I'll settle for a 2006 Gen 3 Glock, with a reversible mag release.

LittleLebowski
05-20-2011, 12:05 PM
I'll settle for a 2006 Gen 3 Glock, with a reversible mag release.

And the Gen4 grip.

JDM
05-20-2011, 12:10 PM
A 10mm M&P with the long slide.

gtmtnbiker98
05-20-2011, 12:12 PM
A Glock Carbine.:cool:

WDW
05-20-2011, 12:22 PM
A Glock Carbine.:cool:
Didn't you hear? They're releasing it next year at SHOT. I know. I have a friend, who has a friend, who has a brother-in-law, who has a cousin, who knows a guy, who talked to a guy, that's friends with a guy on Facebook, who used to work for Glock and he totally saw them testing it a few weeks ago in Smyrna, GA. It's totally awesome. It's like an AR but it has a Glock grip and an attachment for a plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

Pennzoil
05-20-2011, 12:36 PM
Either of these would be awesome for me.

M&P 9mm Glock 19 size with full apex parts stock from S&W and gadget.

Glock 19 without finger groves, Gen 3 upper, pre 2010 reliable, gadget, Gen 4 frame/texture with original frame not having Glock hump, have the hump addable with back straps for people that like it.

WDW
05-20-2011, 12:52 PM
Either of these would be awesome for me.

M&P 9mm Glock 19 size with full apex parts stock from S&W and gadget.

Glock 19 without finger groves, Gen 3 upper, pre 2010 reliable, gadget, Gen 4 frame/texture with original frame not having Glock hump, have the hump addable with back straps for people that like it.

You could actually build that Glock...
1. Grind the fringer grooves off a Gen 3 19
2. Install a Gadget (are they even available yet?)
3. Grind the hump off and stipple the frame to your liking
I've seen this done before and it actually looks rerally good.

Pennzoil
05-20-2011, 01:09 PM
You could actually build that Glock...
1. Grind the fringer grooves off a Gen 3 19
2. Install a Gadget (are they even available yet?)
3. Grind the hump off and stipple the frame to your liking
I've seen this done before and it actually looks rerally good.


Yeah my previous carry Gen 3 2 pin 19 is close to this just need the gadget when it's available but wish Glock would do it stock. Why have removable back strap and not make the hump optional glock?:mad:

NickA
05-20-2011, 01:13 PM
I'll go ahead and get this one out of the way- single stack Glock 9mm. It's been beat to death but I do think it would be great (if it's Gen3 reliable that is.)

JHC
05-20-2011, 02:37 PM
Glocks - 5" G20 and a single stack standard and 5" 10mm.

HK - a 10mm version of the HK45. (HK10?)

orionz06
05-20-2011, 03:04 PM
I would love to see a side folding AR upper with a full length receiver extension.

jar
05-20-2011, 06:05 PM
I might be tempted if they sold an M&P9 with a full size slide on a compact frame.

DonovanM
05-20-2011, 06:53 PM
A 10mm M&P with the long slide.


Glocks - 5" G20 and a single stack standard and 5" 10mm.

HK - a 10mm version of the HK45. (HK10?)

I'm right there with you guys.

I've been salivating over the idea of buying a Gen4 G21 when they come out and putting one of those Lone Wolf 5.34" 10mm slides on it. They make versions without the horrendous logo, but they still have those horrendous front cocking serrations.

Double stack 10mm's are right up my alley though. And no, the ergos on the Gen3 G20's really don't work for me :(

SLG
05-20-2011, 06:55 PM
Reliable, high-quality Sigs.

Reliable high-quality Glocks.

JMB spec 1911's, with...high-quality parts.

I guess I'm not very original. Ah, the good ol' days. They used to be now, but that was then.

KevH
05-20-2011, 07:13 PM
A modern SIG built with the quality parts and the care they put into their guns in the late 1980's and early 1990's.

Blayglock
05-20-2011, 07:19 PM
Take that p30 and shorten the grip just a tad so that it hides like a G19. I'd even take 2 less rounds. Also I'd like the barrel to have traditional rifling but I could deal if not.

Chris Rhines
05-20-2011, 07:28 PM
Not guns, but gun-related stuff:

- An LDA trigger mechanism, suitable for use in a service pistol, that allows the reset force to exceed the trigger force.

- A low-power variable rifle scope with a holographic BDC reticule. BONUS - user-replaceable reticule prisms.

- A service pistol that is guaranteed to meet an accuracy and reliability standard.

Kyle Reese
05-20-2011, 10:10 PM
Not really guns per se, but I'd like to see QC brought back to some of the major gun makers again.

Red Leader
05-21-2011, 02:30 AM
I've wanted to get a Glock for a while but the grip angle/hump has dissuaded me.

I'd love a G19 sized frame, 1911 grip angle, replaceable backstraps with no hump, and a slide length somewhere between a G19-G17. And ambi mag release.

I'd buy that!

Chipster
05-21-2011, 07:21 AM
A $800-$1000.00 HK P7M8 that doesn't heat up after 100 rounds.

JDM
05-21-2011, 09:02 AM
I'd also like ALL of my pistols to have the Hk/Walther style mag release. It's many orders of magnitude faster.

Chuck Haggard
05-21-2011, 01:20 PM
I'd like to see Glock release new guns that work.

Simon
05-21-2011, 05:43 PM
An M&P 40 with a 7 round single stack mag and a 3 inch barrel. Of course with the trigger already slicked up.

TCinVA
05-21-2011, 06:25 PM
I'd like to see Glock release new guns that work.

That's pretty much my wish...that gun companies would start making every product as good as they can before it leaves the factory.

LOKNLOD
05-21-2011, 06:30 PM
A G17 slide on a frame with the 3rd gen rail and a G19 length grip, with no finger grooves, and varying backstraps that slide in from the bottom with a dovetail and pin type setup. And P30 grip texture.

JM Campbell
05-21-2011, 06:33 PM
A G17 slide on a frame with the 3rd gen rail and a G19 length grip, with no finger grooves, and varying backstraps that slide in from the bottom with a dovetail and pin type setup. And P30 grip texture.

+1 and it must not have any "do not feed after midnight and no water" gremlins.

Buckshot
05-21-2011, 09:38 PM
A single column G19
A single column M&P
A 9mm LCR

MichaelD
05-22-2011, 12:18 AM
M&P 9mm Glock 19 size with full apex parts stock from S&W and gadget.


JMB spec 1911's, with...high-quality parts.

+1 to both, especially the G19-size M&P9... call it an M&P9m (for midsize).

KeeFus
05-22-2011, 05:27 AM
I'd like to see Glock release new guns that work.

+1!!!

Comedian
05-23-2011, 06:54 AM
A striker fired P30 with a Glock like trigger action. Perhaps the Walther PPQ, will fit the bill. :confused:

JV_
05-23-2011, 06:57 AM
Here's my closer-to-reality wish:

HK (P-30) parts that are always in stock and a decent aftermarket!

LittleLebowski
05-23-2011, 07:17 AM
A striker fired P30 with a Glock like trigger action. Perhaps the Walther PPQ, will fit the bill. :confused:

Haven't fired one but based upon examination of my local gun shop's one, it's close.

phidelta308
05-23-2011, 11:46 PM
What would I like to see?

In general, single stack 9mm's with full length grips.

Specifically, id like to see Beretta bring back the 92 compact type M (single stack 8 round mags). Dream gun? Centurian slide on a single stack vertec frame.

Other dream gun? PX 4 .45 compact, preferably with a single stack mag.

jslaker
05-25-2011, 02:40 PM
M&P with paddle magazine release.

Also, redesign the sear assembly block retention mechanism. I'm not a fan at all of the coil pin design holding it in place; any design that requires me to beat the hell out of a pin that can deform with a hammer to detail strip it could use some simplification, in my book.

Say what you want about HKs being complicated, but I can -- and have on more than one occasion -- detail strip a USP to the frame with nothing more than a BIC pin to use as an improvised punch.

orionz06
05-25-2011, 02:42 PM
M&P with paddle magazine release.

Also, redesign the sear assembly block retention mechanism. I'm not a fan at all of the coil pin design holding it in place; any design that requires me to beat the hell out of a pin that can deform with a hammer to detail strip it could use some simplification, in my book.

Say what you want about HKs being complicated, but I can -- and have on more than one occasion -- detail strip a USP to the frame with nothing more than a BIC pin to use as an improvised punch.

Except the detail strip of a USP involves 94 parts...

jslaker
05-25-2011, 02:54 PM
Except the detail strip of a USP involves 94 parts...

LEM variant is closer to a high 40s part count. Not Glock simple, but not really all that bad, especially considering that a lot of those parts remove and install basically as a big block together - e.g., sear, catch, control latch, and disconnecter pretty much drop in together. The only parts that have ever given me particular trouble are the trigger reset spring and the cocking piece spring. There really aren't that many small parts in the design.

Either way, I've never had to take a hammer to a USP outside of installing sights.

VolGrad
05-25-2011, 03:44 PM
1. Single stack GLOCK 9mm. Not a lame one with the same wide slide and a thinner grip ... something that is actually thinner all over. I would want it somewhere between a G26 and G19 frame size (height and length) and with a bbl length somewhere between the two.

2. GLOCK Gen3 upper on Gen4 frame .... that works.

3. A 1911 that runs like a pre-Gen4 GLOCK.

Corvus
05-29-2011, 10:54 PM
Double stack 1911 in .40 caliber , not one with a .45 size grip but one with the grip sized for say the M&P .40 magazine.

....the 5 inch 10mm M&P sounds pretty good also.

BigT
05-30-2011, 05:02 AM
1. Single stack GLOCK 9mm. Not a lame one with the same wide slide and a thinner grip ... something that is actually thinner all over. I would want it somewhere between a G26 and G19 frame size (height and length) and with a bbl length somewhere between the two.

This would be awesome. A mate and I were discussing yetserday that a P7 size GLOCK in 9x19 would be an awesome carry gun.

backtrail540
05-31-2011, 02:30 AM
M&P Pro 45
Beretta px4 45 in either decocker only or preferrably constant action

MechEng
05-31-2011, 07:52 AM
1. Enhanced 9mm Browning High Power

Enlarge the ejection port a bit
Nix the trigger magazine safety
Redesign the trigger mechanism to a more modern transfer bar design
Ambi-mag release similar to the HK’s
If possible, without enlarging the grip to much, squeeze a few more rounds into the magazine
Keep the same slim profile
Rated to shoot the hotter +P defence loads


2. Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.

orionz06
05-31-2011, 07:55 AM
M&P Pro 45

I believe this can effectively be had now, but in better form. Use the Apex trigger upgrades with a set of your favorite FO sights and you have it.

JV_
05-31-2011, 07:57 AM
Beretta px4 45 in either decocker only or preferrably constant actionYou won't find a rotating barrel Beretta on the "Wish List" of many people.

superr.stu
05-31-2011, 09:06 PM
I just wish that smith would make the m&p the gun that it should be, and not the gun that it is. So in other words, put Apex in charge of m&p production....

AlanR
06-05-2011, 08:12 AM
[QUOTE=Red Leader;15357]I've wanted to get a Glock for a while but the grip angle/hump has dissuaded me.

I had Cold Bore Customs modify my G21 to remove hump and finger grooves. The transformation was huge and the ergos are vastly superior to OEM.

ranburr
06-05-2011, 02:50 PM
Front end Browning Hi Power, rear end 1911, true 9mm sized double stack grip, Commander sized.

Pistol Shooter
06-05-2011, 03:54 PM
I'd like to see Colt bring back the Python. :D

Colt still makes beautiful SAA's, so while we're wishing, why not bring back the "Holy Grail" of modern revolvers?

backtrail540
06-05-2011, 05:06 PM
I believe this can effectively be had now, but in better form. Use the Apex trigger upgrades with a set of your favorite FO sights and you have it.

I don't know why, but I just want that extra 1/2":cool: So really, just a 5" M&P 45 because I would do the Apex and warren/dawson sights regardless.

jlw
06-05-2011, 08:17 PM
- Single stack 8+1 Glock in .45 ACP but with the same grip dimensions of the 9/40 Glocks.

- A 34/35 size .45 GAP.

- .30-30 leverguns with 16" barrels, just bring back the Trapper and Spikehorn

Packy
06-10-2011, 09:26 AM
A G17 4th Gen size with the grip angle of the CZ Shadow using 45ACP rounds.

evanhill
06-13-2011, 03:20 PM
as others have said:

- 5" M&P 10mm
- more trapper length lever guns. While I'm dreaming, make one in .41 magnum.

beyond that, here's what I want:

- Why can't somebody make a modern plastic pistol with 1911 ergos and features? (before some smart @$$ pipes up, I mean a reliable one) Maybe if they did I wouldn't like it anyway. I guess I'd be reasonably satisfied with a "modern" BHP, whatever that is.

- reliable .308 autoloader in a traditional (non pistol grip) stock that takes P-mags but also comes with a flush fit 5 round magazine. 6.5-7lbs without optic. heck, I'd also take an AR based .308 autoloader that came in at that weight.

Quentin
06-20-2011, 07:03 PM
Not really guns per se, but I'd like to see QC brought back to some of the major gun makers again.

I've got to agree, it's a shame to hear of all the problems with so many manufacturers including Glock.

But I have to say my new 23Gen4 has been great. Love the ergonomics and the way it works. So far it's been as reliable as my old Gen 2 22.

JHC
06-20-2011, 07:07 PM
I've got to agree, it's a shame to hear of all the problems with so many manufacturers including Glock.

But I have to say my new 23Gen4 has been great. Love the ergonomics and the way it works. So far it's been as reliable as my old Gen 2 22.

How would you describe it's handling in recoil?

Super J
06-20-2011, 11:17 PM
I'd like to see a single stack 9mm subcompact Glock and also the long awaited, highly anticipated Glock carbine.

I'd also like to see sig make the 230/232 platform in 9mm without the heel release.

While I'm out dreaming about guns, I would be happy with h&k making more p7m8 pistols and in stainless or with a hats chrome finish.

I'd also like h&k to make available a civilian version of the mp5.

Hmmm...my list could go on and on for quite a while.

FotoTomas
06-21-2011, 06:43 AM
For me... top three,

Glock subcompact 9mm the size of the Kahr PM9.
Single stack version of the Glock G21 SF.
The return of the S&W Model 19 Combat Magnum, pinned and recessed with no lock and with a standard contour 3" tube.

peterb
06-21-2011, 02:50 PM
A 3" SP101 in .22LR, configured to weigh/balance the same as the .357 model.

jslaker
06-21-2011, 04:45 PM
I'd also like to see sig make the 230/232 platform in 9mm without the heel release.

I think the P239 is as close as you're ever going to get to this:

http://www.shooting-proshop.com/gallery/images/sig-pistols/sig-p239-232.jpg

Jumping up to 9mm pretty much rules out using direct blowback (short of some HK P7 style gas delayed hackery), and the guide rod seems to account for much of the difference in profile of the two guns.

karmapolice
06-21-2011, 07:57 PM
as others have sated a gen4 glock with no issues as well as the issues with the 9mm M&P's fixed for good as well. I have no use for small pistols mostly and or single stack guns. I have large hands and can conceal a full sized gun easily (as anyone can).

mlk18
06-23-2011, 08:22 PM
Dream Gun No. 1: Smith & Wesson 4586 with a scandium frame, integral rail, TSW internals and Performance Center tune up.

Dream Gun No. 2: Smith & Wesson M&P9C in ultra-slim single stack configuration. (Note: Not a Bodyguard 9mm).

DonovanM
06-23-2011, 11:09 PM
An M&P with Apex's FSS w/ metal trigger installed at S&W so I can shoot it in Production. I'd prefer it even over a 5" 10mm. That's IT, that's all I want, other than an aluminum framed SIG X5 in DA/SA with an external extractor, or at least one that works. And a Glock without the horrid ergonomics (which may just be a CZ Phantom).

CK1
06-30-2011, 10:13 AM
CZ polymer-framed Shadow Custom-compact, same size/dimensions as a P-01, no-FPB, CZCustoms competition hammer, traditional-CZ SA/DA with a manual safety only... and while we're wishing, mill/cut the slide to accept Glock sights to co-opt their vast aftermarket choices.

Lights-out accuracy, kick-ass trigger and ergos, and Glock-like reliability, in a lighter weight easy-to-carry package.

I'd buy three of them.

ranburr
07-01-2011, 04:25 AM
Not going to be popular here, but, I would love to se an XDm dimensionally identical to a Glock 17.

Slavex
07-01-2011, 12:23 PM
A steel framed, full length dustcover Elite series Beretta with swapable backstraps and metal grips. Not like the 90-Two. G model obviously, also have a recoil buffer that is user replaceable. Adjustable overtravel and pretravel screws.
P30 with a regard button style mag release (I hate paddles)
And finally, that Magpul folding carbine thing. Cuz in Canada it would actually be legal.

grimel
07-07-2011, 12:48 AM
A plastic 13 shot 4" 9mm that works with the trigger from a Kahr. That would be about as close to a good revolver trigger in a handy size autoloader to be found.

or S&W could remove their heads from their butts and build the nightguard series with spurless hammers.

will_1400
07-07-2011, 12:57 AM
M41A Pulse Rifle, 10mm explosive-tipped caseless with an over/under pump action 30mm grenade launcher.

NickA
07-07-2011, 09:30 AM
M41A Pulse Rifle, 10mm explosive-tipped caseless with an over/under pump action 30mm grenade launcher.
Needs a night scope, since they mostly come out at night...mostly. then it's "Game over man! Game over!";-)

LittleLebowski
07-07-2011, 09:35 AM
Needs a night scope, since they mostly come out at night...mostly. then it's "Game over man! Game over!";-)

We got knives, sharp sticks...

NickA
07-07-2011, 01:15 PM
We got knives, sharp sticks...
But there's only one way to be sure...

Rex G
07-09-2011, 06:05 PM
The middle-aged, private-citizen side of me wants a 4" SP101, chambered in .357 Magnum. Ruger has made the the SP101 with 4" barrels in .32 H&R and .22 LR in the past, and is apparently about to release an updated 4" .22 LR, so there is hope. The new rear sight that was on the prototype updated .22 version looks better than the poor windage-only rear sight on previous 4" SP101s, and it would be good to see that sight on new centerfire five-guns.

The LEO side of me would like to see something like a GP100 with a true Picatinny rail, from muzzle to rear of frame, with iron sights that can be seen through an Aimpoint Micro T-1. The rear sight could be flip-down, if done ruggedly enough. I seem to have aged out of being able to perform my PD's rather athletic patrol rifle qual, but having tasted the Aimpoint Micro, my aging eyes want that technology on a handgun, and I shoot nothing better than a 4"+ GP100 or S&W L-frame. This would be a true offensive pistol, not a belt-carry gun.

Realistically, my second wish, above, would have be realized on a custom basis.

A 4" SP101 is realistic, perhaps as a distributor exclusive through Davidson's or Lipsey's, as competitor S&W has made non-snubby Models 60 that seem to sell well enough.

I have nothing against auto pistols, it is just that the market has largely given me what I want, already. Until recently, I yearned for a
P229 with a longer barrel/slide, but as my LE career winds down, and my eyesight gets worse, priorities change. Double-stack autos
are not my cup of tea, when I am free to choose, without influence from somebody else's rules. When my badge goes into a
shadowbox, a Les Baer 1911, with 10-8 sights, and G-10 grip panels, is my idea of autopistol perfection. Really, if a battle-tough optic mount can be had, my idea of an offensive sixgun might be better realized by putting the Aimpoint on a 1911.

David Armstrong
07-11-2011, 01:15 PM
After much thought on this, I would like to see a good Walther PP design, chambered for the 9mm Makarov, in a true lightweight version. I know that there have been variations on this, some Hungarian models come to mind, as does the Manhurin, but I think with modern technology we might could get an outstanding CCW gun from it.

And bring back the Winchester 94 Trapper in .357 Mag with the Big Loop lever and no safety!

LittleLebowski
07-11-2011, 01:16 PM
I'd like to see a Browning BLR in .460 S&W.

Rappahannock
07-11-2011, 05:03 PM
I'd like to see a Browning BDM with a polymer frame and without the odd little round action switch in the side of the slide, that would take 15 round High Power magazines.

Pasanova
07-11-2011, 07:02 PM
I wish they would make a reliable and durable Sig P220. P220 magazines that actually fall free with the slide locked to the rear would be amazing.

Motor-T
08-01-2011, 02:56 AM
10mm M&Ps. 5in and compact based in the M&P 45 frames.

Mikey Idaho
08-01-2011, 07:57 AM
M&P Pro in 10mm, and either a good .22 conversion kit for the M&P or an M&P chambered in .22 that isn't outsourced to reduce price and quality.

will_1400
08-01-2011, 11:23 PM
This probably doesn't makes much sense, but an N-frame chambered for .44-40 would be a gun I'd want to have. Not sure how practical it would be, but a .44 caliber cartridge that falls between the .44 Special and .44 Magnum has some appeal to me for some reason. Course I could just get lightly loaded.44 mag rounds, but what's the fun in that?

LittleLebowski: a good lever action carbine .460 S&W would be interesting as well.

FJ1200SC
10-02-2011, 01:40 AM
Any Springfield XD or XDM with an ambidextrous slide lock.

JAD
10-02-2011, 07:10 AM
Airweight 5 shot k frame .44 special. They did this for a little while but it was DAO and plug ugly. Make mine 3" with fixed sights and no lock, please. I suppose blue would be too much to ask for, as would tritium.

Comedian
10-02-2011, 09:45 AM
A Walther PPQ in 9mm, that didn't kick like a 40.

theblacknight
10-02-2011, 06:21 PM
An all carbon steal defensive 4 or 5 inch pistol that is SAO,1911 style safety,low slide mass, that is reliable with modern manufacturing processes.



+1 to 22 kits for major pistols.

Maple Syrup Actual
10-02-2011, 06:48 PM
The Glock 17 and 19 "Professional":

Gen 4 with the bugs worked out and a nice tool steel extractor
Backstraps all have a nice beavertail similar to the Grip Force
Vickers slide release
White Sound HRED
FBI mag release
The Gadget
Cheapest possible sights because everyone will replace them the second the gun arrives anyway and Glock has a solid track record of successfully including outrageously cheap, cheesy sights

Gunfolks
10-03-2011, 03:00 PM
3.8-4" barrelled Smith m&p Midsize 9mm with apex parts. Size of a Glock 19.