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ToddG
08-16-2013, 06:34 AM
Please read the rules (http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?1837-Drill-of-the-Week) before participating in this thread.

Week 78: 300
results may be posted until 11:59pm EST on Friday 23-August-2013.

Range: 25yd
Target: B8 replacement center (download pdf here (http://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=57&d=1306683559), courtesy Tom Jones)
Start position: any
Rounds fired: 30

Time to dial things back after weeks of going fast, faster, fasterer.

Using the provided B8 replacement, fire a ten-shot group at 25yd with no time limit and your normal 2-handed grip. Add up the score for all ten shots. Keep in mind that the "7" ring is visible but not identified, and the four corners of the target are technically the "6" ring. For hits on the line between two scoring zones, use the higher scoring value only if the grease ring of the bullet hole cuts the line between the two zones. Tears and other marks that are greater than the bullet's diameter do not count for scoring. Shots that do not hit the sheet of paper score zero. Do not use a standard B8 target, as it will give you more scoring area than the pdf provides.

Then repeat on a second target but shooting strong hand only.

Then repeat on a third target weak hand only.

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

score for each string of fire
total score


Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

JHC
08-17-2013, 09:14 AM
Gun Gen 4 G17 with minus connector, Bitterroot Bullets 147 grain.

Two hands - 94
Strong hand only - 86
Weak hand only - 65

Total 245

I like 5 shot groups way more. ;)

2alpha-down0
08-18-2013, 02:34 PM
Gun: S&W M&P9, Federal Champion 115gr

2H: 85/100
SHO: 74/100
WHO: 29/100 :o

Total: 188/300

Grumble, grumble...

Kevin B.
08-19-2013, 06:02 AM
Glock 22, 180-grain FMJ

Two-Handed: 99-4x
SHO: 94
WHO: 99-5x

292-9x/300

Kevin B.
08-19-2013, 09:21 AM
Shot this again with a borrowed M-9 and M882 ball...

Two-Handed: 95-2x
SHO: 91
WHO: 93-1x

278-3x/300

ST911
08-19-2013, 11:05 PM
S&W M&P 9C, Speer Lawman 147 TMJ (53620)
OH1: 79-2X
SHO: 20
WHO: 69
TOTAL: 168/300
OH2: 78-1X

S&W M&P 9mm Shield, Speer Lawman 147 TMJ (53620)
OH1: 49-1X
SHO: 32
WHO: 34
TOTAL: 115/300
OH2: 78

Ran this DOTW for both of the above as part of my ongoing Shield project. After these results, I ran the OH portion again for each, represented by OH2. Still fighting those M&P triggers. :(

Ifightcrime
08-21-2013, 02:25 PM
Glock 34 9mm

two Handed- 86
SHO - 86
WHO - 50

Total = 222

GJM
08-21-2013, 03:41 PM
Gen 3 Glock 17, HD sights, Aguila 124

Freestyle 97

Dominant hand 88

Support hand 91

Total 276 (forgot to count X's but not enough)

Kevin B inspired me to grab a G22 and a Pizza gun, and YVK has been pestering me since he got an Elite. I shot some sight in rounds with the Elite, the first since I got the pistol, and need to make a sight correction. Wow, it shoots small groups and it made me gag on the Glock trigger afterwards. Hope to get time to do the G22 and Elite later.

GJM
08-21-2013, 06:25 PM
Gen 4 G22, Speer Lawmen TMJ ammo, Warren sights, KKM barrel

Freestyle 97

Strong hand 94

Support hand 91

Total 282

Interestingly, afterwards I shot my carry ammo in AK, the 200 hard cast DT load, and it was substantially more accurate than the Lawmen. I find the Vogelish grip I use with the 17 doesn't work as well with .40, as my grip wants to break, and I need my support hand further back, more joined with my dominant hand.

I would have expected to shoot the 17 better than the 22, given how much I shoot the 17, and its less recoil -- I wonder if this is a Gen 4 versus 3 accuracy thing.

Beretta shipped the Elite II with the front sight offset left considerably in the dovetail, and between being unable to adjust windage enough, and the pistol shooting low with the rear sight, I gave up trying to do the DOW with the pizza gun -- sorry, YVK.

dustyvarmint
08-21-2013, 07:11 PM
Gen 4 G17, Reloads (115 gr Precision Delta FMJ, 3.8 gr Clays, 1.10" C.O.L, Fed'l SPP)

Two hands - 85
Strong hand only - 80-3X (adjust POA to POI)
Weak hand only - 36-1X

Total 201-4X

Good learning - I thought I was better left than right - not so much :eek:!

happy shooting, dv

ST911
08-21-2013, 11:21 PM
Ran this again with a gen4 G26, Federal 147 JHP (9MS)
OH: 82-3X
SHO: 68-2X
WHO: 23
Total: 173

JHC
08-22-2013, 09:52 AM
I wish this would stay open. I need another crack at it. ;)

KevinB
08-22-2013, 03:36 PM
LAV done Nighthawk 1911
WWB 230gr FMJ

98 8x
89 2x (best group just a tad low)
94 1x
______
289 11x

9mm M&P CORE w/ DeltaPoint
WWB 115gr FMJ

95 1x
99 5x (utter fluke but I'll take it
85
_____
279 6x


Sadly the Sheriff just came by (well a Deputy) great guy - neighbor (a mile away) bitched about my shooting in the backyard. He explained to her that I had a range and a safe berm, he left. She called back and bitched three more times and apparently Fauquier County has an ordnance about shooting within 100yds of a dwelling - so my range is stop dropped for now...

JHC
08-22-2013, 05:54 PM
LAV done Nighthawk 1911
WWB 230gr FMJ

98 8x
89 2x (best group just a tad low)
94 1x
______
289 11x

9mm M&P CORE w/ DeltaPoint
WWB 115gr FMJ

95 1x
99 5x (utter fluke but I'll take it
85
_____
279 6x


Sadly the Sheriff just came by (well a Deputy) great guy - neighbor (a mile away) bitched about my shooting in the backyard. He explained to her that I had a range and a safe berm, he left. She called back and bitched three more times and apparently Fauquier County has an ordnance about shooting within 100yds of a dwelling - so my range is stop dropped for now...

Jesus. What did you do in the military Kevin? ;)

GJM
08-22-2013, 06:51 PM
Kevin, I think you should go over apologize, offer to teach her and/or her kid to shoot, offer to cut her lawn, and explain your performance in the DOW depends on a convenient home range.

Corey
08-22-2013, 10:52 PM
Finally, a drill that plays to my strengths, sort of (which is probably why I shoot this one so rarely).

Smith & Wesson M&P9FS (stock sights, Apex duty trigger)
2hand: 87
SHO: 86-1x
WHO: 86-1x

Total: 259-2x

I may not be great at it, but at least I'm consistent.

GJM
08-23-2013, 06:09 PM
I messed around with two Gen 3 G17's last night, shooting at 25 yards, as I wasn't thrilled with the accuracy I got with the G17 on the DOW, and this confirmed the pistols seemed to be shooting about 4-5 inches for me freestyle at 25 yards. TLG reminded us at AFHS in ABQ, after we ran this drill, that even at 25 yards, ammo can play a big factor in this. This morning, I shot both pistols again from sitting, and confirmed that IS about the accuracy I am getting with Aguila 124 ball. I decided to try some Federal 147 AE I had, and voila, it shrunk the groups in both pistols by near half. While my newer Gen 3 shot quite a bit better than my older Gen 3, both of them would have scored substantially more points on the 300 with the Federal ammo. (I also dropped a KKM barrel into the older Gen 3 17, and it still wouldn't shoot as well as the newer Gen 3 17.)

If you are serious about 25 yard and further shooting, it definitely seems worthwhile to choose your ammo carefully. Lately, I have been happy to get any 9mm ammo, but hopefully in the future the 147 AE will become readily available again.

JHC
08-23-2013, 06:38 PM
I messed around with two Gen 3 G17's last night, shooting at 25 yards, as I wasn't thrilled with the accuracy I got with the G17 on the DOW, and this confirmed the pistols seemed to be shooting about 4-5 inches for me freestyle at 25 yards. TLG reminded us at AFHS in ABQ, after we ran this drill, that even at 25 yards, ammo can play a big factor in this. This morning, I shot both pistols again from sitting, and confirmed that IS about the accuracy I am getting with Aguila 124 ball. I decided to try some Federal 147 AE I had, and voila, it shrunk the groups in both pistols by near half. While my newer Gen 3 shot quite a bit better than my older Gen 3, both of them would have scored substantially more points on the 300 with the Federal ammo. (I also dropped a KKM barrel into the older Gen 3 17, and it still wouldn't shoot as well as the newer Gen 3 17.)

If you are serious about 25 yard and further shooting, it definitely seems worthwhile to choose your ammo carefully. Lately, I have been happy to get any 9mm ammo, but hopefully in the future the 147 AE will become readily available again.

Same ammo in my warm up groups (embarrassed to say I actually warmed up for this one :mad: ) and my sweet OD Gen 3 groups were twice the size of my Gen 4 groups. Just sayin'. ;) Didn't like the Bitterroot brand (who are they?) ammo I guess.

DocGKR
08-23-2013, 08:20 PM
Unfortunately I have not been able to shoot much as a result of work overload and several unexpected injuries occurring since the beginning of the year--the nagging deficits from my slowly healing fx R wrist definitely are causing issues...

M&P9c w/RMR07 firing Fed AE9FP 147 gr FMJ.

94-2x
88-0x
91-2x

273-4x