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ToddG
08-09-2013, 12:57 PM
Week 77: Variable Scoring No.2
results may be posted until 11:59pm EST on Friday 16-August-2013.

Range: 7yd
Target: B-8 25yd Timed/Rapid repair center (download a .pdf of this target here (http://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=281&d=1322428748))
Start position: holstered
Rounds fired: 5 (6 if starting from ready position)

We continue our examination of different scoring systems (http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?8740-Time-Plus-and-how-fast-is-fast-enough) and how they impact training with a single simple drill that we'll then score multiple different ways. This week's version uses a target with multiple scoring zones. Each hit is worth a certain number of points as indicated on the target.

If you are using a holster, draw and fire five rounds at the target on the buzzer. If you are shooting from a ready position, fire six rounds. Record your points and your time. For purposes of this DotW, X-ring hits are worth 10 points.

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

starting position (ready, competition holster, duty holster, or concealed)
gun & holster used
points scored
time


Then calculate your "score" based on different scoring systems:
IDPA: raw time and add 0.5 seconds for each point you dropped
KSTG: raw time and add 1.0 seconds for each point you dropped
USPSA: points (minus 10 for each complete miss) / raw time

Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

ToddG
08-09-2013, 08:09 PM
1690


starting position: concealed
gun & holster used: SACS-Warren 9mm 1911 & 5 Shot Leather SME
points scored: 50 1st run / 48 2nd run
time: 2.29s 1st run / 2.11s 2nd run


1st run: 50 points in 2.29 seconds
IDPA: 2.29s
KSTG: 2.29s
USPSA: 50 / 2.29 = 21.83

2nd run: 48 points in 2.11 seconds
IDPA: 2.11 + (2 * 0.5) = 3.11s
KSTG: 2.11 + (2 * 1.0) = 4.11s
USPSA: 48 / 2.11 = 22.75

01G8R
08-10-2013, 11:11 AM
Starting position: Hands at sides, duty holster
Gun & holster used: Glock 17 w/ TLR-1, Safariland ALS
Points scored: 47 1st run / 40 2nd run
Time: 2.62s 1st run / 2.18s 2nd run

1st run: 47 points in 2.62 seconds
IDPA: 2.62 + (3 * 0.5) = 4.12s
KSTG: 2.62 + (3 * 1.0) = 5.62s
USPSA: 47 / 2.62 = 17.938

2nd run: 40 points in 2.18 seconds
IDPA: 2.18 + (10 * 0.5) = 7.18s
KSTG: 2.18 + (10 * 1.0) = 12.18s
USPSA: 40 / 2.18 = 18.348

ST911
08-10-2013, 03:02 PM
SW M&P Shield 9mm, 3:00 OWB, concealed underneath a tee shirt
Federal 124gr Hydra-Shok (#P9HSG1)

Run1: 4.10, 46/50, IDPA 6.10, KSTG 8.10, USPSA 11.22
Run2: 3.47, 42/50, IDPA 7.47, KSTG 11.47, USPSA 12.10

AJZ
08-13-2013, 07:06 PM
M&P9L, Comp-Tac OWB Strong Side Hip under Vest

1st Run: 50/50 in 3.12
IDPA: 3.12
KSTG: 3.12
USPSA: 50/3.12 = 16.025

2nd Run: 45/50 in 2.65
IDPA: 5.15
KSTG: 7.65
USPSA: 45/2.65 = 16.981

dustyvarmint
08-14-2013, 02:15 PM
My initial entry into DOTW:

Starting position: Hands at sides, Concealed (heavy chamois, button-front shirt)
Gun & holster used: Glock 17, Uncle Mike's LE Kydex Holster
Points scored: 49 1st run / 50 2nd run
Time: 5.08s 1st run / 4.39s 2nd run

1st run (cold): 49 points in 5.08 seconds
IDPA: 5.08 + (1 * 0.5) = 5.58s
KSTG: 5.08 + (1 * 1.0) = 6.08s
USPSA: 49 / 5.08 = 9.65

2nd run: 50 points in 4.39 seconds
IDPA: 4.39 + (0 * 0.5) = 4.39s
KSTG: 4.39 + (0 * 1.0) = 4.39s
USPSA: 50 / 4.39 = 11.39

2alpha-down0
08-16-2013, 12:27 AM
Starting Position: Concealed
Gun & Holster: S&W M&P9 in a JMCK AIWB

1: 49/50, 3.89s
IDPA: 4.39
KSTG: 4.89
USPSA: 12.59

2: 46/50, 3.18s
IDPA: 5.18
KSTG: 7.18
USPSA: 14.46

3: 48/50, 3.71s
IDPA: 4.71
KSTG: 5.71
USPSA: 12.94

Mr_White
08-16-2013, 11:00 AM
starting position (ready, competition holster, duty holster, or concealed): Concealed
gun & holster used: Gen3 G34, Keeper


Run 1: 2.84 seconds, 50 points
IDPA: 2.84
KSTG: 2.84
USPSA: 17.60

Run 2: 1.83 seconds, 43 points
IPDA: 5.33
KSTG: 8.83
USPSA: 23.49

USPSA's scoring seems most realistic on this one.

Corey
08-16-2013, 05:30 PM
Concealed, M&P9, Blade-Tech.

Run 1: 46 points, 3.48 seconds
IDPA: 5.48
KSTG: 7.48
USPSA: 13.22

Run 2: 43 points, 3.65 seconds :mad:
IDPA: 7.15
KSTG: 10.65
USPSA: 11.78

ToddG
08-17-2013, 09:54 AM
by IDPA results:


IDPAKSTGUSPSA
1ToddG (1)2.292.2921.83
2OrigamiAK (1)2.842.8417.60
3ToddG (2)3.114.1122.75
4AJZ (1)3.123.1216.03
501G8R (1)4.125.6217.94
62a-d0 (1)4.394.8912.59
7dustyvarmint (2)4.394.3911.39
82a-d0 (3)4.715.7112.94
9AJZ (2)5.157.6516.98
102a-d0 (2)5.187.1814.46
11OrigamiAK (2)5.338.8323.49
12Corey (1)5.487.4813.22
13dustyvarmint (1)5.586.089.65
14Skintop911 (1)6.108.1011.22
15Corey (2)7.1510.6511.78
1601G8R (2)7.1812.1818.35
17Skintop911 (2)7.4711.4712.10




by KSTG results:


IDPAKSTGUSPSA
1ToddG (1)2.292.2921.83
2OrigamiAK (1)2.842.8417.60
3AJZ (1)3.123.1216.03
4ToddG (2)3.114.1122.75
5dustyvarmint (2)4.394.3911.39
62a-d0 (1)4.394.8912.59
701G8R (1)4.125.6217.94
82a-d0 (3)4.715.7112.94
9dustyvarmint (1)5.586.089.65
102a-d0 (2)5.187.1814.46
11Corey (1)5.487.4813.22
12AJZ (2)5.157.6516.98
13Skintop911 (1)6.108.1011.22
14OrigamiAK (2)5.338.8323.49
15Corey (2)7.1510.6511.78
16Skintop911 (2)7.4711.4712.10
1701G8R (2)7.1812.1818.35




by USPSA results:



IDPAKSTGUSPSA[/tr]
1OrigamiAK (2)5.338.8323.49
2ToddG (2)3.114.1122.75
3ToddG (1)2.292.2921.83
401G8R (2)7.1812.1818.35
501G8R (1)4.125.6217.94
6OrigamiAK (1)2.842.8417.60
7AJZ (2)5.157.6516.98
8AJZ (1)3.123.1216.03
92a-d0 (2)5.187.1814.46
10Corey (1)5.487.4813.22
112a-d0 (3)4.715.7112.94
122a-d0 (1)4.394.8912.59
13Skintop911 (2)7.4711.4712.10
14Corey (2)7.1510.6511.78
15dustyvarmint (2)4.394.3911.39
16Skintop911 (1)6.108.1011.22
17dustyvarmint (1)5.586.089.65