how bad do 10 round glock 19 magazines suck?

[Mitchell, Esq.]

thanks to the lovely state of Connecticut, I am no longer able to use my normal capacity magazines for my Glock 19. therefore, in order to have any use of this pistol for carry, I need to use neutered mags.

how bad do the 10 round mags truly suck? are they on unreliable to the point I should not even bother buying them, or and I worried about nothing?

please excuse the typos, my phones speech software sucks.

[Kyle Reese]

I had some during 1999-2004, and found them to be very difficult to load to capacity. Getting the 10th round in there was really a chore. I'm not sure if the newer production ones are any better.

[GJM]

I thought the CT law was you could use one standard cap mag downloaded to 10, in your away from home carry pistol, but your reload had to be a reduced capacity 10? I bought a few G17 10's to test out for visits to CT, but haven't tested them yet. If I was concerned, I would have the 19 chopped to a 26 butt, so as to use standard cap G26 10 round mags.

[Tamara]

I had some during 1999-2004, and found them to be very difficult to load to capacity. Getting the 10th round in there was really a chore.

I literally could not do it with 10-rd G23 mags back in the bad old days, at least not without potentially feed-lip-damaging stunts involving table edges and loading tools, not until they were well broken-in.

[Mitchell, Esq.]

Were they reliable?

[Kyle Reese]

Were they reliable?

As I recall, mine were. Memory is kinda hazy from the old days.:cool:

[Tamara]

Were they reliable?

I never had any problems with the 23 mags.

[ST911]

Reaching back to the memory archives... The 10rd .40 mags, esp the G23 were tough to load to capacity. The 9mm weren't as ba but were still pretty stiff. Downloading these to 9rd is prudent if you anticipate the need for tactical/in-battery reloads. Some 10rd mags could be quirky. I recall occasional issues with the early ones but not the specifics. Current production seem okay.

[DocGKR]

I have yet to find a neutered, reduced capacity magazine that does not exhibit problems.

I did a test a few years back where we took ten of the 10 rd G17 mags and loaded them to capacity, along with 10 standard capacity 17 rd G17 mags--ALL of the 10 rd magazines demonstrated feeding malfunctions, while NONE of the standard capacity mags had any problems.

Fortunately the neutered 10 rd M&P9 magazines seem to have no problems feeding, however, they often fail to drop free, unlike the standard capacity M&P9 mags which drop free with ease.

I hate neutered magazines; their is NO logic behind the artificial bureaucratic mandates that require their use.

[1911Nut]

I've shot numerous IDPA (SSP Division)and steel (Production Division) matches with stock Glock 10-round magazines in a G19 as well as a G17 over the past year and haven't had any problem with them. As far as difficulty in loading them, I ALWAYS use an UPLULA magazine loader when I load Glock magazines, so that hasn't been an issue for me.

[Maple Syrup Actual]

Up here in Canada, the 10 round G17 mags are common for obvious reasons; I have run them through many hours of training without issue.

My G19 mags are standard mags with pop rivets in them and I have not tried the factory 10s.




Flawless, sub-moa fit and finish...all day long.

[MPG]

Being here in CA I've used both 10 round G19 and G17 in IDPA/USPSA matches as well as multiple training classes and range practice without issue. They are as noted much harder to load the last couple of rounds in by hand but nothing an Uplula can't solve.

[SteveB]

It's true that CT rules allow a standard capacity mag in the pistol downloaded to 10, with 10-round mags in reserve. New issue G-19 10-round mags have been fine for me, but I had some feeding issues with older mags. I read somewhere that the new follower design solves this problem, so I replaced all older followers and reliability issues disappeared. The new followers are marked "2183" and a separate, larger "2" at the front edge. They have a flatter profile than the old followers.

-Steve

[Tamara]

I hate neutered magazines; their is NO logic behind the artificial bureaucratic mandates that require their use.

I do, too. Mitchell, Esq. probably hates them worse than I do, but that doesn't help him any. :(

[JHC]

For a few years during the AWB I owned only one standard capacity mag and many 10 rounders and I shot the heck out of them. I had great service from them reliability wise. 10th round was a bear to load. Based on my own experience with a bunch of them and a lot of use of them in my guns, I wouldn't like it but I would probably not change guns over it (ie go to .45)

[Tamara]

I wouldn't like it but I would probably not change guns over it (ie go to .45)

It's the main reason that back during my G-lock days (which overlapped the ban era) I owned multiple Glocks in every caliber but nine. I didn't buy my first 9x19 Glock until a couple years ago. :o

[Mitchell, Esq.]

I do not like the idea of carrying a larger gun with a neutered mag when I have a Glock 26 that carries smaller with the same ammo load.

That said...It's easier to draw the Glock 19.

I hate this state.

[GJM]

I do not like the idea of carrying a larger gun with a neutered mag when I have a Glock 26 that carries smaller with the same ammo load.

That said...It's easier to draw the Glock 19.

I hate this state.

Why can't you carry your 19 with a standard capacity magazine downloaded to 10 rounds?

[Mitchell, Esq.]

Why can't you carry your 19 with a standard capacity magazine downloaded to 10 rounds?

Mule-headedness.

It sticks in my craw to do that. The Glock 26 is my normal gun, but I'm used to 2 Glock 17 round mags as reloads. I'm now using 3 10 round mags (2 in pocket, 1 on belt).

The Glock 19 is nice to carry...but I'm getting by with the 26, so carrying a larger gun with the same ammo load makes no sense to me.

[Whiskey_Bravo]

I am in the same boat with my P30LS and living in this state. At this point I am strongly considering the switch back to .45 since it would probably end up saving me money. The 10 round P30 mags are expensive!

[Erik]

I'm switching to the M&P .45 for this reason. I just hate the idea of a downloaded 9mm.

[SPDGG]

10th round is always the hardest to load with New Glock 10 round mags.
The included loader helps or the Maglula Loader.

As for the Glock 10 round 9mm 2183 follower: You can call Glock and explain the issue with C.S. They "should" offer to send you a different 10 round follower: [ 9mm3 ]
* Dont have pics on hand, but I'm sure there are some images of the two and the angle in which the round is angled in the mag.

^ Probably not the best example, but those are kind of like changing the GI follower to Magpul followers in AR15 Mags.



NOTE: Credit - Pics are not mine, these photos were posted by "Legasat" on another board:
Best pics I could reference to compare the two.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/G2034/Follower.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/G2034/Follower2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/G2034/Follower1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/G2034/Follower3.jpg

* The updated 9mm3 Follower "should" clear up any hangups with HP. More like a std. capacity follower/feed angle.

[GJM]

I did some checking with someone that knows, and this is what I learned.

The 2183 follower was legally driven, as the 9mm2 and 9mm3 follower out of the standard cap magazine, might allow a 11th round in the mag. The 2183 follower did not. However, some stoppages were intermittently experienced with the 2183 follower.

As SOP, I download my Glock mags one round, just as downloading AR mags, so difficulty with the 10th round going in is not my consideration. Obviously, reliability is. I plan to make sure any 10 round G 9mm magazines get the 9mm3 follower.

[Slavex]

As Misanthropist states up here in Canada we've been stuck with 10's for a very long time. I have factory 10s for my 17 and 9mm and other than the hard to insert 10th round (which goes away after a few hundred loads), I've never had a feed problem. Even the mag that was damaged after a double charge detonated the gun works fine with a new spring and follower. I would feel utterly content with factory 10s, but I will admit to preferring pinned standard capacity mags due to the ease of loading, and possible zombie preparedness factors.

[DocGKR]

All the ones we tested were 2183 followers--they definitely did NOT function reliably.

[Mitchell, Esq.]

I'm sticking with the Glock 26 for now. Likely, I'll find a few grip extending base plates that give a bit more control without increasing size that much.

I'm not really loosing anything with the Glock 26 over the Glock 19 for the majority of situations, and don't want to carry a neutered gun.

[NoLock]

I have a glock 19 gen 4 that I've been using with 10 round magazines. Tons of FTF with 124 grn gold dots, ball ammo is no problem. I installed 9mm3 followers and it made the issue even worse. I'm reading online 9mm6 followers solve the issue, is that correct?

[PensFan]

If I were running 10rd mags I would replace all the current 10rd 9mm followers with #3 (SP1812-3) followers.

[Mitchell, Esq.]

I solved the problem by using 8 round HK45c magazines.

Admittedly, I needed to get a new gun because they sucked in my Glock 19...but the problem was resolved.

[Cool Breeze]

How many flipping follower evolutions are for these things?

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[NoLock]

I just got a new gen 4 26. There were 9mm6 followers in the mags so I removed one and put it in a Glock 19 10 round mag. Fired a box of gold dots through a 19. Not a single issue except the slide doesn't lock back on the last round.

[PensFan]

I just got a new gen 4 26. There were 9mm6 followers in the mags so I removed one and put it in a Glock 19 10 round mag. Fired a box of gold dots through a 19. Not a single issue except the slide doesn't lock back on the last round.

Yeah that's not really recommended.