Weighted magazines for dry fire...

[BJJ]

After a lot of consistent dry fire, I was able to tell a big difference at the last two pistol matches I shot. The improvement was mostly in tracking the front sight. Despite the improvement, it felt like the difference in weight between the loaded pistol at the match and the empty pistol during dry fire was holding me back. Can anybody recommend a commercially available weighted magazine for Glock? I have found these online but I do not want to spend my money on an unknown product that could turn out to be crap.

http://www.glockstore.com/dry-fire-practice-magazine

http://www.dillonprecision.com/content/p/9/pid/25221/catid/32/Crisis_Resolution_Training_Magazines_for_GLOCK__01 74__17__22

Can anybody shed any light on these or other similar products that have worked well for them?

[lightning fast]

Why not just make some dummy rounds to load your mags with?

[pr1042]

I use the ones that I got with my SIRT pistol, think they were 12 apiece when I got them

[Cookie Monster]

I use the CRTM's quite a bit. I have cracked/broken a few with reload practice onto a concrete floor but just filled them with glue and carried on.

For reloads, I will used a magazine filled with dummy rounds and the CRTM's are much smoother for reloading and allow you to cheat a bit.

I like them but your mileage my vary.

Cheers,

Cookie Monster

[JodyH]

Old worn out magazine filled to the proper weight with birdshot and silicon.

[GJM]

I would want to understand why and how much the lack of weight magazines is holding you back, since I have read of folks having elbow problems attributable to using full weight magazines for high rep practice.

[Chuck Haggard]

One of the Korean made Glock mags is a good start for a home made weighted training mag.

The Dillon blue mags also work well.

[lightning fast]

Old worn out magazine filled to the proper weight with birdshot and silicon.

That sounds like a lot of work to achieve the same thing dummy rounds do.

I would want to understand why and how much the lack of weight magazines is holding you back, since I have read of folks having elbow problems attributable to using full weight magazines for high rep practice.

To play Devil's Advocate, I would want confirmation that A) the reloads were the actual cause of the problems, and B) that empty magazines would have prevented the problems.
Any kinesiologists in the house?

[Cookie Monster]

Why not just make some dummy rounds to load your mags with?


Then you have to deal with dummy rounds all over the floor when you rack the slide to reset the action.

I also find keeping bullet-like items out of my dry-practice area a good practice.

I know one day I'll kitten up, really kitten up and have to replace another piece of siding on my house. They are 16 ft long and a pain to load in the truck. The drywall patch takes a day to dry before you paint. And I'll be out of the exterior house paint and I'll have to do the color matching again. And my wife won't be gone for a week.

Cheers,
Cookie Monster

[GJM]

To play Devil's Advocate, I would want confirmation that A) the reloads were the actual cause of the problems, and B) that empty magazines would have prevented the problems.
Any kinesiologists in the house?

And how would you go about getting such confirmation -- my guess is the government isn't going to finance a double blind study to sort this out?

I reported it, since I read about it, but it is entirely anecdotal. Now I do know that I developed elbow problems when I was primarily shooting a N frame some years ago. I can't prove it, but I sure suspect the weight of the N frame had something to do with it. Since I use reloading practice to figure out how to quickly and reliably reload, and not as a strength training exercise, I don't feel like using a magazine with just a dummy round in it, or four live ones, materially diminishes the training benefit. Others may feel like it isn't the same, and tune their training magazines for 10 rounds, 4 rounds or whatever they are trying to exactly replicate.

[BJJ]

I would want to understand why and how much the lack of weight magazines is holding you back, since I have read of folks having elbow problems attributable to using full weight magazines for high rep practice.

It's like if I was using a 10 oz ball to practice throwing for accuracy and then only used a 24 oz ball to compete at throwing for accuracy. Another example would be if you did all of your training for boxing using gloves that were a certain weight and then for the actual matches you used gloves of a heavier weight.

I have a hard time picturing the weighted magazines causing elbow problems. I could see high volume live fire being hard on your joints, though.

I ordered some of the Crisis Resolution magazines today. Hopefully they will work well. Thanks for everybody's input.

[GJM]

It's like if I was using a 10 oz ball to practice throwing for accuracy and then only used a 24 oz ball to compete at throwing for accuracy. Another example would be if you did all of your training for boxing using gloves that were a certain weight and then for the actual matches you used gloves of a heavier weight.

I have a hard time picturing the weighted magazines causing elbow problems. I could see high volume live fire being hard on your joints, though.

No worries, I was just pointing out something I heard.

Not sure I agree with your analogy, or presumably dry firing with an empty pistol would be a problem -- do you use a weighted magazine in your pistol when you dry fire? I also think dry firing can be harder on your body than you think.

[SPDGG]

imho:

Best DryFire practice setup/tool:

NextLevel Training SIRT
http://nextleveltraining.com/product_list

[JDM]

Old worn out magazine filled to the proper weight with birdshot and silicon.

This is an excellent idea!!

[ford.304]

Doesn't the grip/entry into the pistol feel and work significantly different with a round in the magazine versus without, or is that only on my single stack 1911 without a magwell?

I make a point to paint my dummy rounds obnoxious colors so I'd have to be a real kitten to kitten up.