Shot Timer for Dry-fire

[Nick]

Anyone here use a shot timer for dry-fire? Any time I set a timer sensitive enough to pick up the dry-fire shot it also tends to pick up the draw among other things as well. I have been getting by for the past year or two using just the par time but I was wondering if anyone has found a better solution...

[jetfire]

Anyone here use a shot timer for dry-fire? Any time I set a timer sensitive enough to pick up the dry-fire shot it also tends to pick up the draw among other things as well. I have been getting by for the past year or two using just the par time but I was wondering if anyone has found a better solution...

The best way to use a shot timer for dry fire, if you choose to do that at all is to use it in the par time setting, that way you don't have to worry about it picking up the "click" and just get the first beep for go and the second beep for stop.

[John Ralston]

Caleb's suggestion is spot on. Many timers will allow you set multiple beeps using the Par Time functionality. That way you can setup a course of fire, such as the FAST - initial beep, another beep 2 seconds later (reload) and a finish beep 3 seconds later (last of your 4 shots).

[Nick]

I have been using a timer with a par feature so far... mainly I'm trying to figure out if something better exists.

That said if a product existed that could time your dry fire shot and (and maybe even give you an indication if the shot would hit or the trigger press was good) would that product add value to your dry-fire training?

[Jay Cunningham]

The shot timer apps available for smart phones are great for dry practice; not so much for actual gunfire.

[LOKNLOD]

That said if a product existed that could time your dry fire shot and (and maybe even give you an indication if the shot would hit or the trigger press was good) would that product add value to your dry-fire training?

We need a SIRT pistol with a built-in timer connected to the trigger break itself rather than the sound.

I think something like the SIRT that gives visual feedback on the target is even more valuable when you try to do any speed push against a par timer during dry fire. It's too easy to let a sloppy pull or sight alignment get ignored if you're moving pretty fast with a real gun dry and there's nothing to verify you really would have gotten the hit.

[Jay Cunningham]

We need a SIRT pistol with a built-in timer connected to the trigger break itself rather than the sound.

I think something like the SIRT that gives visual feedback on the target is even more valuable when you try to do any speed push against a par timer during dry fire. It's too easy to let a sloppy pull or sight alignment get ignored if you're moving pretty fast with a real gun dry and there's nothing to verify you really would have gotten the hit.

That is a really cool idea.

[jetfire]

I actually really wish that there was a 1911 SIRT.

[Dr. No]

Anyone here use a shot timer for dry-fire? Any time I set a timer sensitive enough to pick up the dry-fire shot it also tends to pick up the draw among other things as well. I have been getting by for the past year or two using just the par time but I was wondering if anyone has found a better solution...

I have had great success using the CED timer with a wrist strap. I tune the sensitivity to about 7 and it picks up the dry hit but not much else. I wear it on the outside of my weak wrist so it is close to the gun to pick up the sound. Makes it easy to restart it too.

[NMBigfoot02]

This is what I use for dry fire(just the timer, not the target):

http://www.predatortactical.com/uploads/media/Flashfiles/drawbeepSlider082504.swf

I found that some of the timer apps for Android are inconsistent in their timing accuracy of the beeps when measured against a stopwatch (i.e. you sent for 1.5 sec, the length between beeps could be anywhere from .75-2 sec.)

[RobG]

I actually really wish that there was a 1911 SIRT.

+1

And we can include a shot timer connected to the trigger.

[Matt O]

This is what I use for dry fire(just the timer, not the target):

http://www.predatortactical.com/uploads/media/Flashfiles/drawbeepSlider082504.swf

I found that some of the timer apps for Android are inconsistent in their timing accuracy of the beeps when measured against a stopwatch (i.e. you sent for 1.5 sec, the length between beeps could be anywhere from .75-2 sec.)

Same here - I just use the par time function. The surefire shot timer on my iphone isn't terribly consistent so I stopped using it.

[Sal Picante]

That said if a product existed that could time your dry fire shot and (and maybe even give you an indication if the shot would hit or the trigger press was good) would that product add value to your dry-fire training?

It is called "live-fire"... :p

All kidding aside, I think the purpose behind par-time training is to push you rather than to give feedback... Unless you find the IPSC video game (http://www.wiilshoot.com/2012/12/merry-christmas.html)

[themonk]

This is what I use for dry fire(just the timer, not the target):

http://www.predatortactical.com/uploads/media/Flashfiles/drawbeepSlider082504.swf

I found that some of the timer apps for Android are inconsistent in their timing accuracy of the beeps when measured against a stopwatch (i.e. you sent for 1.5 sec, the length between beeps could be anywhere from .75-2 sec.)

This is great - thanks for the link

[MDFA]

I use a Competition Electronics Pro Timer (AKA Timersaurus) set on Par Time for dry fire practice. Works fine and does everything I need it to do.

[Medusa]

Sorry if this is reanimating the dead, but is this still the prevailing wisdom on shot timers for dry fire, this number of years later, ie use one with a par time function and call it good? I’m reading as many dry fire threads here as I can.

[Alpha Sierra]

I’m reading as many dry fire threads here as I can.

Just buy this: https://www.amazon.com/DryFire-Reloaded-Ben-Stoeger/dp/1542880246/

You'll be miles ahead

[jetfire]

Just buy this: https://www.amazon.com/DryFire-Reloaded-Ben-Stoeger/dp/1542880246/

You'll be miles ahead

And get a CED Pocket Pro (https://amzn.to/2WYWiZq)! Now you're done. Vaya con dios

[Medusa]

Just buy this: https://www.amazon.com/DryFire-Reloaded-Ben-Stoeger/dp/1542880246/

You'll be miles ahead

I literally just received this book yesterday, thanks to good advice in this forum.

I just read the part where he was like, get a timer so I was trying to figure out the best way to go.

[Alpha Sierra]

I literally just received this book yesterday, thanks to good advice in this forum.

I just read the part where he was like, get a timer so I was trying to figure out the best way to go.

The timer is to set drill par times. I suppose, if the timer is capable of beeping at set intervals, that you could use it to practice shooting to a cadence.

But 99.99999% of the use for a timer during dryfire is to signal the start and end of par time.

[jetfire]

The timer is to set drill par times. I suppose, if the timer is capable of beeping at set intervals, that you could use it to practice shooting to a cadence.

But 99.99999% of the use for a timer during dryfire is to signal the start and end of par time.

There are also some shot timer apps for iPhone that can do this, they suck dicks for live fire though.

[RJ]

This is an extremely good option for a timer these days:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?33692-AMG-Lab-Shot-Timer


Set at Sensitivity Level 1, I use mine pretty regularly in Dry Practice to time my actual draw to trigger release time.

[Alpha Sierra]

This is an extremely good option for a timer these days:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?33692-AMG-Lab-Shot-Timer


Set at Sensitivity Level 1, I use mine pretty regularly in Dry Practice to time my actual draw to trigger release time.

Does it pick up the sound of the hammer/striker falling? And if it does, does it get confused by stray sounds?

[Medusa]

This is an extremely good option for a timer these days:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?33692-AMG-Lab-Shot-Timer


Set at Sensitivity Level 1, I use mine pretty regularly in Dry Practice to time my actual draw to trigger release time.

That's exactly what I was hoping for. I'll get one and get a phone timer app while I wait, so I can get to work now.

[RJ]

That's exactly what I was hoping for. I'll get one and get a phone timer app while I wait, so I can get to work now.

Cool.

I’m extremely happy with mine.


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[David S.]

Anybody mess with the RangeTech timer yet?


https://www.rangetechtimer.com/product/rangetech-shot-timer-bluetooth-android-ios/

[flisterthree]

I've had success with the phone apps, but not my shot timers.

[RJ]

Does it pick up the sound of the hammer/striker falling? And if it does, does it get confused by stray sounds?

Apologies for the overlate reply.

Yes, yes the AMG Commander does pick up the sound of the striker falling. To me this is one of the major advantages of the AMG timer over others I have used.

I use one of the five "Preset" programs for my Dry Practice routine, with the sensitivity set to "max". I have set the master option to record times while the Par beeper is going off; this is a programmable setting that Alex showed me how to set up after I asked, since I frequently use Par times close to the best I can do.

So for example, if I set my timer to 1.3s and practice draws with my USPSA rig, not infrequently the Par timer is going off while I am pressing the trigger. Setting the timer this way allows the Commander to record a time for that run. Otherwise, the Par beep would obscure the time from being recorded. This is documented in the owner's manual, at the end, and only accessible through a special key code at power up, but you only have to set it once.

My Dry Practice safe area (our MBR walk-in closet; we live in a small apartment) is pretty quiet. It backs onto an exterior wall/concrete extending to a garage and then to a small wooded area across the parking lot. It's the least worst "safe direction" I have.

[flisterthree]

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[EPF]

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The picture doesn’t work for me. Is there an iPhone app that records the striker sound? For now I’m using the iPhone for par-timers but with live fire becoming increasingly expensive and difficult I’d like to be able to record dry fire more precisely.

[Rwlambert]

The Mantis has a shot timer function that is designed for dry fire, but it does not have par time capability. www.Mantisx.com.





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