Beretta announces full time production of new 'G' model 92s

[shootist26]

haha, just kidding. Beretta isn't that smart. Instead, we are getting the Beretta Pico!

http://www.berettausa.com/pico/

:rolleyes:

[Morbidbattlecry]

haha, just kidding. Beretta isn't that smart. Instead, we are getting the Beretta Pico!

http://www.berettausa.com/pico/

:rolleyes:

First of all the 92g thing isn't funny. I'm sad now. Secondly, is that like a single finger grip on that gun?

[JAD]

A) in the /promotional/ video, it looks painful
B) notice the AIWB draw?

[TGS]

First of all the 92g thing isn't funny. I'm sad now.

This, seriously.

Crying wolf about the production of 92G's deserves a pee-pee smack. That's just cruel.

As for the Pico......well, Beretta's always been in the mouse-gun market. Kind of late for them to finally update their selection, but better late than never. Hopefully it performs better than their subcompact 9mm.

[ST911]

...The thinnest .380 auto made…by a full millimeter...
...(go from a .380 to a .32 by changing the barrel)...
...be customized with a selection of colored frames...

If I had a .380, why on earth would I intentionally make it a .32?

Beretta's answer to the other micros on the market. The LGS drones will love the features above. They'll sell a bunch, too.

[JConn]

Flagging yourself in a video is so operator

[JHC]

First, great soundtrack. More drama than a product named "Pico" would normally see but . . .

I hope it works well. Looks like a handful in recoil. I don't have much use for one so small anyway.

[xray 99]

haha, just kidding. Beretta isn't that smart. Instead, we are getting the Beretta Pico!

http://www.berettausa.com/pico/

:rolleyes:
Rotten thing to do......

[FotoTomas]

If I had a .380, why on earth would I intentionally make it a .32?...snip...

I for one no longer own a .380, .32 or .25. I do have 100 plus rounds of each caliber sitting in the stash. I loved the HK 4 I had years ago with its caliber conversion capability. I have no plans to get a "Pico" but like the option to have a gun that can use supplies of ammo available in multiple calibers. In this latest iteration of ammo shortages I often would see shipments of .32 on the shelves where .380 was non existant. Having a .32 "option" is a good thing.

I just plan to sell off my excess ammo calibers but then again... who knows.

For example...My SIG 229R DAK is set up in 9mm for personal off duty use as my belt gun. I have a .40 slide with both a .40 and a .357 barrel and a .22 conversion kit. I do not plan to stock up on other than 9mm caliber but did buy some .40 that was available when the 9mm was not. I like options. Might want to get a Pico after all. :)

Maybe get a .25 caliber conversion made as well. :D

[LHS]

Not cool. Seriously.

[RoyGBiv]

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/64/berettapico.jpg

[Chuck Haggard]

If I had a .380, why on earth would I intentionally make it a .32?

Beretta's answer to the other micros on the market. The LGS drones will love the features above. They'll sell a bunch, too.

Some places may not allow .380? I dunno, just guessing, kind of like how in Italy you can't have 9x19 but 9x21 is OK.

[Byron]

Flagging yourself in a video is so operator
I'm pretty sure the owner's manual that comes with the Pico will just say,
"Please observe the four cardinal safety rules at all times. In other words, do not do anything we showed in the promotional video for this firearm."



"Come one step closer and I'll blow a hole in my own hand!"
http://byrong.com/pico/1.jpg

"I don't want the bullets going anywhere before I've decided to pull the trigger, so I plug the muzzle with my finger.
It's safe because the bullet doesn't reach full speed until well after the muzzle."
http://byrong.com/pico/2.jpg

"How you guys like my stylin' teacup grip?"
http://byrong.com/pico/3.jpg

"So then you whip out your gat like this and go pew pew pew!
Doesn't matter if you're firing into the ground: the noise will scare attackers away!"
http://byrong.com/pico/4.jpg

"Hey, you can't be the only one who gets to play with the trigger! Let me try!"
http://byrong.com/pico/5.jpg

"Ha! I can do even better than you did! Finger on trigger and muzzling myself...
just in case I didn't quite muzzle myself in the last frame"
http://byrong.com/pico/6.jpg

"How do these mags work again?..."
http://byrong.com/pico/7.jpg

"No... wait... flip it around..."
http://byrong.com/pico/8.jpg

"OK... here we go!"
http://byrong.com/pico/9.jpg


Maybe... just maybe... if you're going to brag about how easy a pistol is to control and operate, it would be a good idea to show people who know how to control and operate said pistol.

[Mitchell, Esq.]

I'm pretty sure the owner's manual that comes with the Pico will just say,
"Please observe the four cardinal safety rules at all times. In other words, do not do anything we showed in the promotional video for this firearm."



"Come one step closer and I'll blow a hole in my own hand!"
http://byrong.com/pico/1.jpg

"I don't want the bullets going anywhere before I've decided to pull the trigger, so I plug the muzzle with my finger.
It's safe because the bullet doesn't reach full speed until well after the muzzle."
http://byrong.com/pico/2.jpg

"How you guys like my stylin' teacup grip?"
http://byrong.com/pico/3.jpg

"So then you whip out your gat like this and go pew pew pew!
Doesn't matter if you're firing into the ground: the noise will scare attackers away!"
http://byrong.com/pico/4.jpg

"Hey, you can't be the only one who gets to play with the trigger! Let me try!"
http://byrong.com/pico/5.jpg

"Ha! I can do even better than you did! Finger on trigger and muzzling myself...
just in case I didn't quite muzzle myself in the last frame"
http://byrong.com/pico/6.jpg

"How do these mags work again?..."
http://byrong.com/pico/7.jpg

"No... wait... flip it around..."
http://byrong.com/pico/8.jpg

"OK... here we go!"
http://byrong.com/pico/9.jpg


Maybe... just maybe... if you're going to brag about how easy a pistol is to control and operate, it would be a good idea to show people who know how to control and operate said pistol.

Now hold on...

They just make the guns. Carrying and shooting the blasted things isn't part of the program!

[Kyle Reese]

I'll bet they'll sell a ton of these to the Taurus Judge and DPMS crowd.

[TCinVA]

I'm pretty sure the owner's manual that comes with the Pico will just say,
"Please observe the four cardinal safety rules at all times. In other words, do not do anything we showed in the promotional video for this firearm."



"Come one step closer and I'll blow a hole in my own hand!"
http://byrong.com/pico/1.jpg

"I don't want the bullets going anywhere before I've decided to pull the trigger, so I plug the muzzle with my finger.
It's safe because the bullet doesn't reach full speed until well after the muzzle."
http://byrong.com/pico/2.jpg

"How you guys like my stylin' teacup grip?"
http://byrong.com/pico/3.jpg

"So then you whip out your gat like this and go pew pew pew!
Doesn't matter if you're firing into the ground: the noise will scare attackers away!"
http://byrong.com/pico/4.jpg

"Hey, you can't be the only one who gets to play with the trigger! Let me try!"
http://byrong.com/pico/5.jpg

"Ha! I can do even better than you did! Finger on trigger and muzzling myself...
just in case I didn't quite muzzle myself in the last frame"
http://byrong.com/pico/6.jpg

"How do these mags work again?..."
http://byrong.com/pico/7.jpg

"No... wait... flip it around..."
http://byrong.com/pico/8.jpg

"OK... here we go!"
http://byrong.com/pico/9.jpg


Maybe... just maybe... if you're going to brag about how easy a pistol is to control and operate, it would be a good idea to show people who know how to control and operate said pistol.

Great Caesar's ghost...

[orionz06]

I'll bet they'll sell a ton of these to the Taurus Judge and DPMS crowd.

You know... I am actually OK with that. Anything to free up a G34 or two for us normal folk.

[GJM]

Got to pick up my Elite II and 92G-SD this afternoon.

Like.

[ToddG]

I'm pretty sure the owner's manual that comes with the Pico will just say,
"Please observe the four cardinal safety rules at all times. In other words, do not do anything we showed in the promotional video for this firearm."

B -- I don't know if you just have too much time on your hands or what, but that was awesome. Shoot me a PM if you wouldn't object to me repeating all that on my site...

[TCinVA]

It's stunning that a firearms manufacturer could put out a promotional video that's so full of blatant safety violations. I mean, I understand if you go out and hire models to make your glam video, but for god's sake teach them how to handle the gun. Somebody on staff at Beretta has to know how to do it, right?

[NickA]

Somebody on staff at Beretta has to know how to do it, right?

They used to have a guy, but it didn't end well... Allegedly ;)

[Byron]

B -- I don't know if you just have too much time on your hands or what, but that was awesome. Shoot me a PM if you wouldn't object to me repeating all that on my site...
When I see material like that, I find the time ;)

And thank you. I sent a PM over: please feel free to use on your site.


It's stunning that a firearms manufacturer could put out a promotional video that's so full of blatant safety violations. I mean, I understand if you go out and hire models to make your glam video, but for god's sake teach them how to handle the gun. Somebody on staff at Beretta has to know how to do it, right?
It's one of those things that blows my mind because it means that it slipped by numerous people. And it's not like we have to pixel-peep to see any of this. In fact, I had to downsize the screencaps because the video is offered in glorious 1080p.

There are plenty of tiny slips to be found in internet promo videos. But usually they're small. Usually they're hard to catch. Usually they're understandable.

This is just so blatant, I'm genuinely confused as to who at Beretta would have watched and approved this. The safety violations are bad enough, but they're not even doing a good job selling the pistol. I don't know how much to chalk it up to their handling abilities vs the size of the pistol, but throughout the video you see awkward two finger pinch draws, flubbed reloads, etc.

[Mitchell, Esq.]

When I see material like that, I find the time ;)

And thank you. I sent a PM over: please feel free to use on your site.


It's one of those things that blows my mind because it means that it slipped by numerous people. And it's not like we have to pixel-peep to see any of this. In fact, I had to downsize the screencaps because the video is offered in glorious 1080p.

There are plenty of tiny slips to be found in internet promo videos. But usually they're small. Usually they're hard to catch. Usually they're understandable.

This is just so blatant, I'm genuinely confused as to who at Beretta would have watched and approved this. The safety violations are bad enough, but they're not even doing a good job selling the pistol. I don't know how much to chalk it up to their handling abilities vs the size of the pistol, but throughout the video you see awkward two finger pinch draws, flubbed reloads, etc.

The targeted consumer neither knows...or cares.

[Tamara]

If I had a .380, why on earth would I intentionally make it a .32?

In my hands the P32 is more reliable than the P3AT, because the latter squirms around enough in my hand when firing SHO or WHO that I get... well, not "limp-wrist", but "limp-grip" short-cycle malfs.( And it's not like either .32 or .380 is the Hammer of Thor anyway, so if I'm forced into the choice, I'll take the one that gives me one more BB and a better chance of hitting the bad guy with it.)

To the topic of the thread: That pistol is gheyer than Elton John's hairdresser and shows a pretty dismal grasp of marketing realities. The pocket .380 party has been going on for years; half the early arrivals have already left and gone down the street to the 9mm Bar & Grill for the afterparty, a few stalwarts are still running around with lampshades on their heads, and now Beretta shows up like it's got some bold new invention?

This is going to appeal to rabidly brand-loyal Beretta fanatics, people who just absolutely HAVE to have an ambi mag release on their pocket gun, and... and... well, that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

[Tamara]

...kind of like how in Italy you can't have 9x19 but 9x21 is OK.

I think that went away some years ago.

[ToddG]

They used to have a guy, but it didn't end well... Allegedly ;)

I know there is at least one guy at Beretta right now who is an experienced pistol shooter. The problem is that he's probably not involved in things like this because... well, because he's an experienced pistol shooter.


And thank you. I sent a PM over: please feel free to use on your site.

Done. Thanks.


It's one of those things that blows my mind because it means that it slipped by numerous people.

It doesn't surprise me at all. It's a corporate culture thing. The fact that this video made it to the public tells me that the culture hasn't changed much in the decade since I worked there. The people pulling the strings in the marketing department were always very defensive and didn't want any of the peons spoiling their brilliance. That's how we ended up with things like the Naked Hunter ads which drew unbelievable volumes of hate mail for months. The marketing folks also had more input into new firearms design than, say, the competition team or the LE/.mil division.

Beretta is far from the only company in the industry that suffers from this problem, too. It's become a funny memory today but the infamous HK catalog gaffe went through lots of people at HK who should have known better.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u99/animalmother85/hk.jpg

[BenEnglish]

...is that like a single finger grip on that gun?I handled it at the NRA Annual Meeting. For me, yes, it is definitely a single finger grip. I should have held it in my hand when I took the picture to give you a better idea but just comparing the length of the trigger to the length of the grip should make it clear how short this thing is. In a firm firing grip, my middle finger was wider than the green portion of the grip allotted for it and my ring finger was not fully above the magazine extension.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l626/benenglishtx/NRA%20Annual%20Meeting%202013%20Saturday/Defensive/DSC_0044_zps05795762.jpg (http://s1127.photobucket.com/user/benenglishtx/media/NRA%20Annual%20Meeting%202013%20Saturday/Defensive/DSC_0044_zps05795762.jpg.html)

[DanH]

I think that went away some years ago.

It probably did in Italy, but it's my understanding that a lot of South American countries still have laws against civilian use of "military calibers." I hear .380 is quite popular there.

[Kyle Reese]

It probably did in Italy, but it's my understanding that a lot of South American countries still have laws against civilian use of "military calibers." I hear .380 is quite popular there.

I'd like to think that Beretta would sell all of the Elite II's it could churn out, but instead they offer us the Pico. If they're going all in, why not offer it with an optional 9x18 barrel? That way, if one found themselves in possession of a Pico behind enemy lines, they could make use of captured ammo?



Not really....... :cool:

[Slavex]

Civilians still can't have 9x19 in Italy as of 2011 when I was in Greece for the World Shoot. Ammo or guns.

[Sparks2112]

The Beretta sales rep who came into my store last month made the mistake of asking me what I thought about the nano. When I didn't signal much enthusiasm for the pistol he proceeded to try and sell me on the gun as the perfect carry gun.

SR: "It's small, slim, and easy to conceal. What are you carrying?"

ME: "I don't know, what AM I carrying."

SR: "No seriously."

ME: "A Glock 34."

SR: "Off body carry isn't a very sm...."

ME: Lifting the front of my shirt "Good belt, good holster does wonders."

SR: flustered "Well, you can decock the nano with a round in the chamber to make it safe."

ME: "What kind of retard would want to do that on a non double action striker fired gun when they could just not chamber a round in the first place and save themselves the headache of forgetting whether or not they decocked their pistol?"

Just goes to show, you never go full retard...

[CCT125US]

The Beretta sales rep who came into my store last month made the mistake of asking me what I thought about the nano. When I didn't signal much enthusiasm for the pistol he proceeded to try and sell me on the gun as the perfect carry gun.

SR: "It's small, slim, and easy to conceal. What are you carrying?"

ME: "I don't know, what AM I carrying."

SR: "No seriously."

ME: "A Glock 34."

SR: "Off body carry isn't a very sm...."

ME: Lifting the front of my shirt "Good belt, good holster does wonders."

SR: flustered "Well, you can decock the nano with a round in the chamber to make it safe."

ME: "What kind of retard would want to do that on a non double action striker fired gun when they could just not chamber a round in the first place and save themselves the headache of forgetting whether or not they decocked their pistol?"

Just goes to show, you never go full retard...

I would have paid to witness that exchange.

[Sparks2112]

I would have paid to witness that exchange.

My boss found it amusing.

[LSP972]

Funny story, Sparks; you handled him right.

Firearm "reps" can be interesting folks. The smart ones will scope out who they are dealing with before making any moves. A good example was the Sig guy who used to drop by our range. Rather than extol the "virtues" of the P250 when it came out, he just dropped one off and told us to play with it. We did, were considerably underwhelmed, and gave it back to him next visit. No drama.

Then there is the salesman "rep", who will blithely run his BS on folks without first checking to see if they have a clue or not. If you have the time, these guys are fun to toy with. If you don't have the time, a polite blow-off is indicated.

Well done.

.

[runcible]

Bump bump, a year and a half later. What's the retrospective on these?

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/10/22/updated-beretta-pico/

...and the option for integrated WML or laser make me curious to take one apart, but less so to own one; but I figured I'd ask what people actually thought about them post-release.

[hufnagel]

In my hands the P32 is more reliable than the P3AT, because the latter squirms around enough in my hand when firing SHO or WHO that I get... well, not "limp-wrist", but "limp-grip" short-cycle malfs.( And it's not like either .32 or .380 is the Hammer of Thor anyway, so if I'm forced into the choice, I'll take the one that gives me one more BB and a better chance of hitting the bad guy with it.)

To the topic of the thread: That pistol is gheyer than Elton John's hairdresser and shows a pretty dismal grasp of marketing realities. The pocket .380 party has been going on for years; half the early arrivals have already left and gone down the street to the 9mm Bar & Grill for the afterparty, a few stalwarts are still running around with lampshades on their heads, and now Beretta shows up like it's got some bold new invention?

This is going to appeal to rabidly brand-loyal Beretta fanatics, people who just absolutely HAVE to have an ambi mag release on their pocket gun, and... and... well, that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

you had me at ambi mag release. I'll take 2... one for each hand/pocket!

:facepalm:

damn necrothread bump got me good.

[azerious]

Bump bump, a year and a half later. What's the retrospective on these?

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/10/22/updated-beretta-pico/

...and the option for integrated WML or laser make me curious to take one apart, but less so to own one; but I figured I'd ask what people actually thought about them post-release.

Did you really have to necro an almost three year old thread to answer that question?:confused:

[LangdonTactical]

It's stunning that a firearms manufacturer could put out a promotional video that's so full of blatant safety violations. I mean, I understand if you go out and hire models to make your glam video, but for god's sake teach them how to handle the gun. Somebody on staff at Beretta has to know how to do it, right?

Careful now, someone once loaded bullets backwards in magazines and put it on the cover of their catalog at SHOT Show...... it was not Beretta.

[Luke]

Careful now, someone once loaded bullets backwards in magazines and put it on the cover of their catalog at SHOT Show...... it was not Beretta.

But beretta doesn't hate us :)

[Sal Picante]

But beretta doesn't hate us :)

Well... Maybe not anymore.

Here, have a pico or a PX-somethingsomething.

[GardoneVT]

Well... Maybe not anymore.

Here, have a pico or a PX-somethingsomething.

Mock Beretta if you must, but they did exactly what so many here clamored for; reintroduce G- type 92s and other variants thereof. Further they did so by making the same thing as the old Elites with some improvements, and not some mismashed cost cut parts gun with a rollmark promising QC of a bygone era . ***cough SIG****

[aboveandbeyond]

I hate the OP so much. What a troll!!!


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[Sal Picante]

Mock Beretta if you must, but they did exactly what so many here clamored for; reintroduce G- type 92s and other variants thereof. Further they did so by making the same thing as the old Elites with some improvements, and not some mismashed cost cut parts gun with a rollmark promising QC of a bygone era . ***cough SIG****

Yes - it was a bit of a joke. I'm glad Beretta came to their senses.

I wish I could take it as that they just really like the concept of the G/Brig guns, but, methinks the potential end of the gravy train/US contract forced them to take stock and re-evaluate which guns john-q-public actually wanted...

[runcible]

Did you really have to necro an almost three year old thread to answer that question?:confused:

Oops - you're right, math error there. *2.5 year old

That said, as there wasn't more recent discussion on it, bumping it seemed both a way to poll the forum for relevant experience and preferable to starting a new topic. How would you have gone about things? :)