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Corlissimo
04-08-2013, 05:31 PM
NOTE: This review will skip all the usual info and pictures related to how the holster looks & feels because I can’t add anything more to what’s already been written in justcor's JM Custom Kydex AIWB thread (http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?3597-JM-Custom-Kydex-AIWB-holster-review). Instead, it will focus on the WML related items..

Backstory:
I have severe night vision issues. I practice with my hand held light often but still feel I’m very vulnerable should I ever need to draw my weapon defensively, as it will likely be in a low/no light situation. Having the WML as a readily available option helps solve a problem that has been nagging at me for quite a while. Recently I decided to tackle this potential vulnerability head on via a WML on my EDC P30L.

A member here (I believe it was Orionz06) wrote a little about the Inforce APL light. I liked what I saw and the price was right so I jumped in with both feet and ordered one as well. Naturally, this meant that I now needed to find a holster that would carry the P30L with a WML, no small feat. I pretty much knew from the get-go that I’d need to have a custom holster made so I reached out to JRC since I’ve been running his CDA-AIWB for almost a year now and it’s been awesome. Jim said he could do it for me, but I delayed a bit... as usual.

During that delay I started thinking: So many folks have been raving about various kydex AIWB rigs, maybe I should try one out. This led me to JM Custom Kydex. I called Tony Mayer and ran my idea past him. He said he could definitely make the holster if he had the Inforce APL light to mold it with. I ordered the AIWB rig, as well as an IWB v2 rig, with the plan being that I would send him my light when he was ready to start molding. However, when Tony saw the light online he decided to try one out too so we were set.

First off, I am not a small (read: “trim, in shape") guy… yet, but I’m workin’ on it. I am 6’ tall and 258lbs with a spare tire. Not your car spare, more like from a big rig. This creates challenges when trying to AIWB a full size service pistol, but I’ve been able to do it mainly because I invested in a quality holster (JRC) that happened to work really well for me. That said, I knew, especially after speaking with Tony, that adding a WML would change the equation in a significant way. I was betting that Tony had the plan to make it all work for me. So far… WINNING!... thanks to Tony. :cool:

The most notable, and important, thing that I think Tony did when making this holster was to wrap it the opposite way you normally see holster bodies wrapped around pistols. Instead of wrapping it over the top of the slide, Tony wrapped it under the dustcover and the WML. This meant that the retention adjustment is above the slide and creates a sizable sight channel. This design feature makes the holster very comfortable to wear. With the extra width of the holster to accommodate the WML, it can be a challenge to not only make everything “fit”, but that it all fits comfortably! The difference in feel between the JM Custom Kydex and my JRC is hardly even noticeable, even with the added width, and I’m now EDC carrying a WML with ease. Joy!

Here are some pictures of the rig.

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Picture from the rear.



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Not bulky at all, and looks like the photos I’ve seen of the JM without a WML.


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JM on the left, JRC on the right.


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P30L w/Inforce APL, AIWB on left side, IWB v2 on right side.


JM Custom Kydex IWB v2:
I ordered this for use at a range near me that won’t allow drawing from appendix. I also wanted it as a second carry method for those times that I just don’t want to/feel like carrying Appendix, though that is a very rare occasion. The IWB v2 works great with the Inforce APL. It’s comfortable, stays put, and the soft loops are perfect. I ordered mine with the 15 degree cant. Won’t change a thing on it, it’s perfect!


Notes:
Retention is adjustable on both the AIWB, and the IWB v2. Retention is also excellent as delivered, though I have yet to try either out in an ECQC type environment.

It should also be noted that both holsters work very well even without a WML mounted.

I’ve been wearing my new JM AIWB for almost a month now and have absolutely no complaints at all. So far, it is as comfortable as I can expect given my current shape and has been on two road trips: one 5 hours each way; the other 8 hours each way. My typical day has me sitting, standing, walking, and sometimes trekking/light hiking, and is 12 hrs long on average. However, I’m typically wearing the holster for closer to 15-16 hrs daily. I also have the soft loops and they work very well, but the solid kydex loop just locks the holster in position, especially with my WT 5 Stitch.

In dry fire practice it was a very short learning curve. The draw is smooth and easy. Re-holstering is as well, even with my extra girth to work around. At first, I had some light NDs on drawing, but resolved them. They usually occurred when I pulled the grip away from me a little instead of drawing straight up. This was usually the result of rushing my draw and getting sloppy. On the bright side (pun intended ;)) having these “light NDs” revealed that I was muzzling myself a bit on the draw. Unacceptable to me even though I am running a stock v3 trigger. For all I know, I was doing the same thing with my JRC AIWB and just didn’t have an indicator to alert me.

The Future:
Everything is working well with this rig and there are only a couple tweaks that I need to make. The first one is to get high ride kydex loop from JM. Right now, I could use a little more height to get a better master grip more reliably. The second is to place some loop Velcro on the belt loop so my WT belt can really lock it in. I did this on my JRC and it was a great mod.


Bottom Line:
Both the JM Custom Kydes AIWB and the IWB v2 are excellent holsters. Quality workmanship. Tony is great to work with and his Customer Service is top notch. Both holsters are a great value IMO and I will be back for more when the time comes. Highly recommended! :cool:

Sparks2112
04-08-2013, 11:12 PM
You just cost me at least $250 :(

Up1911Fan
04-08-2013, 11:59 PM
Tony makes a great holster! I've used his AIWB and OWB and really like both.

BobLoblaw
04-09-2013, 08:54 AM
The wife will not be pleased when our bank statement comes in. Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

tmoore912
04-09-2013, 09:53 AM
I've had my JM appendix holster for a G17 with Crimson Trace LightGuard since last August. It has worked out very well for me.

I also had to go with the extended height Kydex loop so there was no interference from the belt while drawing.

Tony Mayer
04-09-2013, 12:19 PM
Corlissimo, great review and I am glad they are working for you. Thank you

tmoore912 and Up1911Fan, thanks for the kind words.

Sparks2112, thanks for the interest.

Bobbj22, I totally agree, so don't get caught :cool:

Sparks2112
04-09-2013, 12:24 PM
Corlissimo, great review and I am glad they are working for you. Thank you

tmoore912 and Up1911Fan, thanks for the kind words.

Sparks2112, thanks for the interest.

Bobbj22, I totally agree, so don't get caught :cool:

I sent yah an e-mail.

Corlissimo
04-09-2013, 02:18 PM
I've had my JM appendix holster for a G17 with Crimson Trace LightGuard since last August. It has worked out very well for me.

I also had to go with the extended height Kydex loop so there was no interference from the belt while drawing.

Good to know it works well. I spoke with Tony before I placed the order for the new loop as I wanted a modification. He's going to add a second set of mounting holes in the Standard Height location, so there will be two sets of holes on the loop. The idea came to me from what JRC does on his loop, as it allows mounting the loop on either a reverse or a forward cant, as well as straight drop. It's possible that with the high ride loop mounted for reverse cant the clearance between the grip and belt will be the same as with the standard height, but I want to try it out. I'll post an update once the new loop arrives and I've had a little time to mess with it.

pr1042
04-09-2013, 07:06 PM
Did you pick (or have the choice) the extra tuck option that he offers?

Trying to conceal my Raven holster for G19 + X300U is laughable with my current wardrobe, this may be a good option....

tmoore912
04-09-2013, 07:26 PM
Good to know it works well. I spoke with Tony before I placed the order for the new loop as I wanted a modification. He's going to add a second set of mounting holes in the Standard Height location, so there will be two sets of holes on the loop. The idea came to me from what JRC does on his loop, as it allows mounting the loop on either a reverse or a forward cant, as well as straight drop. It's possible that with the high ride loop mounted for reverse cant the clearance between the grip and belt will be the same as with the standard height, but I want to try it out. I'll post an update once the new loop arrives and I've had a little time to mess with it.

I'll be interested in seeing if that works well for you.

I have two JM AIWB holsters. One without the extra tuck for a G17 made before he offered it as a option, and the one for the lightguard has the extra tuck. I have since added Velcro and foam wedges to both of them for how I like it.

If you are going to add your own foam wedge, then getting it without the extra tuck might be easier to dial in.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/tmoore912/Holsters/AIWB/2013-03-09_16-01-21_878.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/tmoore912/Holsters/AIWB/IMG_3492.jpg

Corlissimo
04-09-2013, 08:45 PM
Did you pick (or have the choice) the extra tuck option that he offers?

Trying to conceal my Raven holster for G19 + X300U is laughable with my current wardrobe, this may be a good option....

Yes. Everything is exactly the same as the standard holster, including the tuck option. The only thing different is it accepts the Inforce light.

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cvann
04-09-2013, 10:17 PM
Another happy AIWB JM Customer. Love my P30 holster in jeans or khakis.

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Sparks2112
04-10-2013, 12:39 PM
Ordered. We will see how a 226 works with an apl.

vernSL
12-23-2013, 10:19 PM
Are you still liking the JM Custom holster? I've got a P30 with an APL and I'm looking for an appendix holster for it. I ordered a Statureman one, as well as a KydexTech one. But I'm pretty picky about holsters and may pick up a JM Custom one as well to try out. But the price tag is much steeper than than the others I purchased.

I carry my P30 and my Shield in a PHLster Access holster now and really like them. But they don't offer anything for the APL.

Rich
01-09-2014, 03:05 PM
Are you still liking the JM Custom holster? I've got a P30 with an APL and I'm looking for an appendix holster for it. I ordered a Statureman one, as well as a KydexTech one. But I'm pretty picky about holsters and may pick up a JM Custom one as well to try out. But the price tag is much steeper than than the others I purchased.

I carry my P30 and my Shield in a PHLster Access holster now and really like them. But they don't offer anything for the APL.

Can you move your APL back and forth on the rail? My P30S /APL has some play. It can also pop off when drop from knee high on carpet!

Anyway I order a IWB-L from John. I changed the order from APL to the TLR-1 ! I hope it mounts better than the APL did.


I order a IWB-L from JM also

vernSL
01-09-2014, 04:14 PM
Can you move your APL back and forth on the rail? My P30S /APL has some play. It can also pop off when drop from knee high on carpet!

Anyway I order a IWB-L from John. I changed the order from APL to the TLR-1 ! I hope it mounts better than the APL did.


I order a IWB-L from JM also

There is very slight play, which is fine. It doesn't move unless I'm deliberately yanking on it. And I haven't have any issues with it popping off at all. I prefer my APL to my TRL-1 by a large amount. The size and controls of the APL make up for anything else. And I like how easy it is to remove and reattach. I ended up getting a holster from Statureman for my P30 and APL and it works very well. Plus the 2 week ship time and price were great.

Rich
01-10-2014, 02:11 PM
There is very slight play, which is fine. It doesn't move unless I'm deliberately yanking on it. And I haven't have any issues with it popping off at all. I prefer my APL to my TRL-1 by a large amount. The size and controls of the APL make up for anything else. And I like how easy it is to remove and reattach. I ended up getting a holster from Statureman for my P30 and APL and it works very well. Plus the 2 week ship time and price were great.

Have your tried using your momentary toggle switch while firing! Keeping finger pressed while firing? Did you see the video over on youtube?

Like yours mine moves back and forth but I have to do it by hand.

It wasn't a big deal to me at all UNTIL it fell off my bed onto the carpet . Knee High and it pop off with ease. It made me rethink! Plus when I drop it while dry firing! My Bad I should of waited until my hand completely healed!

I don't like the TLR-1 ant all ! Much rather have my APL! But I don't need it popping off the rail if I bump my pistol while taken cover etc etc !


I do have a ZC IWB-L for my P30S and APL . when and if my hand heals I go out and see if it pops off while firing like it there videos

Thanks for your feed back