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CCT125US
03-02-2013, 09:13 PM
While sorting brass after my last range trip I came across a very unique .380 case

Found here.

http://polycaseammunition.com/

KeeFus
03-02-2013, 09:51 PM
Nice concept...but that is about as far as I'll throw it. I looked at their web-site and followed a couple links to find out how much a case (http://polycase-ammunition.myshopify.com/products/1-000-round-bulk-ammo-polycase-uhp) was selling for. $748.00 a case is way too rich for me...especially in .380, which appears to be all they are selling at the moment.

Byron
03-02-2013, 10:48 PM
Methinks they're going to want to tidy up some of their advertising if they want to make it in the mainstream...


...these bullets consistently deliver the deep terminal penetration needed for one-shot kills...
http://polycaseammunition.com/polycase-products/

CCT125US
03-02-2013, 11:13 PM
Methinks they're going to want to tidy up some of their advertising if they want to make it in the mainstream...


http://polycaseammunition.com/polycase-products/

Yup, saw that nugget of wisdom. Might explain why I found only one spent cartridge, must have been the kill shot. The other annoying thing is that the brass whores were out in force. I was barely able to scrounge my own, let alone any other empties. I usually get 300% of what I shoot. This time I got mine plus a polycase, go me.

Byron
03-03-2013, 12:17 AM
Yup, saw that nugget of wisdom. Might explain why I found only one spent cartridge, must have been the kill shot.
Well played, sir. Well played.

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MikeyC
03-03-2013, 06:33 AM
The website says it's available in mutiple colors. Anyone want to take a high/low on Multicam pricing?

BLR
03-03-2013, 06:34 AM
Yup, saw that nugget of wisdom. Might explain why I found only one spent cartridge, must have been the kill shot. The other annoying thing is that the brass whores were out in force. I was barely able to scrounge my own, let alone any other empties. I usually get 300% of what I shoot. This time I got mine plus a polycase, go me.

Any chance you can put up a pic or two of the fired case?

Al T.
03-03-2013, 07:42 AM
Old concept. There was a start-up company in the late '70'/early '80's that had polymer cases for .36 Special. IIRC, the bullets were heeled like a .22LR for ease of reloading the unique cases.

Tamara
03-03-2013, 07:47 AM
Polymer-cased ammo: The Next Big Thing!™ for coming up on thirty years now...

Who was that company selling the plastic .38 back in the Eighties? USAC*? And then there was the company selling plastic 5.56 not too long back...

*Yup. USAC (usac polymer case .38 special).

JAD
03-03-2013, 08:49 AM
That is one unfortunate name.

CCT125US
03-03-2013, 10:09 AM
Any chance you can put up a pic or two of the fired case?


Pen point indicates where the internal base begins. Notice the formed slits 180 degrees apart, they are not case ruptures.
http://db.tt/ir5GCSD8
Looking into the case you can see the aluminum tube that extends from the primer pocket.
http://db.tt/VITdwMuV
Looks to be a standard primer, the odd ring is a reflection.
http://db.tt/8jAbNxXM

ETA: One concearn would be the possibility of bullet setback. Could a split polymer neck place as much case mouth tension as traditional brass? I am sure there was extensive testing done, but not sure how I feel about that.

JV_
03-03-2013, 10:11 AM
If the price was right, I'd like something like that for my match or class ammo, where I can't reclaim the cases easily.

LOKNLOD
03-03-2013, 10:21 AM
I remember that poly-cased .223 ammo from a few years back. IIRC it did not run well.

Shawn.L
03-03-2013, 12:57 PM
Friend of mine had some of the .380 to try out.
We couldnt get it to cycle more than 2 or 3 times in a row at most in an otherwise reliable Sig P380 (Colt pony copy)

jmjames
03-03-2013, 07:59 PM
Hey, I've some of the super-rare polymer cased 12 gauge. It's a VERY advanced polymer. I'd gladly sell you some at $5/round. Anyone? :D

J.Ja

hufnagel
03-03-2013, 08:20 PM
so... can we print our one cases now?

roadsiderob
03-04-2013, 07:56 PM
My roommate had an HK93 clone and tried some of the polymer cased 5.56 in it. The fluted HK chamber did not play well with the polymer case. The case extruded itself into the flutes & stayed there. After ripping the rim off & poking at it a bit with something sharp he gave up & the gun sat in the safe for several years. A couple of attempts were made over the years to clean it out resulting in a further mess as well as an HK clone that had been disassembled for several years with the parts scattered about. I pulled it out of the safe during his last trip to Afghanistan & ended up making some scraping tools out of brass that I pointed, sharpened & bent. I got the chamber mostly cleaned out after several hours of tedious scraping. After a short scavenger hunt to locate all of the wayward parts, I reassembled it. A few brass cased rounds down the chamber forced out the remaining polymer that I could not get out.

Urban_Redneck
03-05-2013, 04:22 PM
I fired and reloaded thousands of these back in the day.

http://oi52.tinypic.com/34rj60i.jpg

Morbidbattlecry
03-05-2013, 06:23 PM
Poly cased ammo would be the next step if only someone could figure out how to do it right. If no one can for whatever reason, or its not cheap like it should be. The next step would be just a bullet and powder ignited by an electric charge.

JV_
03-05-2013, 06:26 PM
The next step would be just a bullet and powder ignited by an electric charge.The next step after the Remington EtronX?

jmjames
03-05-2013, 06:34 PM
I believe H&K experimented with caseless ammunition decades ago... the book about gun I had growing up talked about it, and that book was from 1978 or 1982 or around there...

J.Ja

MikeyC
03-05-2013, 06:39 PM
H&K had some sort of Bullpup rifle that used caseless ammo, the G11 I believe. It was plagued with overheating problems

Kyle Reese
03-05-2013, 06:41 PM
H&K had some sort of Bullpup rifle that used caseless ammo, the G11 I believe. It was plagued with overheating problems

That and the Berlin Wall came down, and the BRD found itself in possession of tons of DDR / Soviet military hardware...:cool:

TGS
03-05-2013, 09:34 PM
The US has also looked into caseless ammo in the last couple years. From what I understand, all we've done is rediscover everything the Germans found out 20+ years ago.

NDIA Presentation: Lightweight Small Arms Technology (LSAT) (http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2012armaments/Wednesday13935phillips.pdf)

HK G11 video. Just because, HK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_didDgUjn0

Mitchell, Esq.
03-06-2013, 07:24 AM
The US has also looked into caseless ammo in the last couple years. From what I understand, all we've done is rediscover everything the Germans found out 20+ years ago.

NDIA Presentation: Lightweight Small Arms Technology (LSAT) (http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2012armaments/Wednesday13935phillips.pdf)

HK G11 video. Just because, HK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_didDgUjn0

That gun was awesome in the deathlands series of books...that and the Sig226.

Tamara
03-06-2013, 07:47 AM
The US has also looked into caseless ammo in the last couple years. From what I understand, all we've done is rediscover everything the Germans found out 20+ years ago.

The .mil has been looking at caseless ammo almost as long as the Jerries have, and keeps running into the same problems: Obturation, extraction, and lack of a cartridge case to serve as a self-disposing heat sink.

I believe that we're fiddling with polymer-cased telescoped ammo now which will at least solve the first two problems.