Obligatory Wristwatch Thread

[hurley842002]

Last time I post in here about this abomination watch! I am sure you real watch people think these are silly, but I am having some fun with the faces (and the new technology of shouting at my wrist like a madman).

My original picture wasn't the best Seamaster 300 Specter face out there. It was missing the Omega label and the second hand was incorrect. I have since found a better face.

Here are a few more I have tried from the Facer app (free):

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4712/39052735784_4df82a7ce7_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22uXtLL)

FYI - The real NATO strap (22mm) works with the Gear S3 but by design your wrist is not in contact with the back of the watch. You lose your heart rate stuff and the watch face turns off after a set time, it thinks you removed it. It still wakes up when you turn the watch to look at it, so its a workable solution. What you lose is the "always on" face functionality.You realize you can get 2 piece NATO straps right? While not authentic, I can't imagine giving up some of primary features of the smart watch. This was the S3 I had, but sold it because the fitness tracking features weren't up to par, however I've heard the new software update fixed the issues.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180119/8c74b18d2a2865a331f0fbbcddddfc7e.jpg

Just got this for my birthday, Huawei watch 2 sport, so far I'm quite impressed for the price. I plan on a similar 2 piece NATO strap as the above watch.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180119/2a8f91d62da76796a86cf088b4b487b5.jpg

[w provence]

My birthday watch. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180119/ecb12468a8b680318771874c0ffda603.jpg


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[Trooper224]

I have three of them, what do you want to know?

No concerns over collectability, resale value, etc., just overall quality. The fact that you own three probably answers my question.

[JodyH]

No concerns over collectability, resale value, etc., just overall quality. The fact that you own three probably answers my question.
Ball makes a very good mid-tier watch.
Their overall quality is on par with Sinn, Oris, Hamilton, Tag-Heuer, Longines, etc., which in general means reliable workhorse ETA/Sellita/Soprod Swiss movements, sapphire crystals, well finished stainless cases and decent quality straps/bands.
It's a super crowded, very competitive segment of the market.
Value retention (resale) from MSRP is going to suck, don't pay full MSRP. Buy one used or new gray market.
Gray market from a respected gray market dealer (https://www.jomashop.com/ball-watches.html) will be discounted at least 50% off MSRP. You won't have a factory warranty buying gray, but the discount combined with the initial quality of the watch and the generic ETA movement means that's really not a big deal. Your chances of needing the warranty are slim and any work on the ETA movement could be had cheaply locally anyway.

[vcdgrips]

JodyH is spot on.

[JRCHolsters]

Thought I would dig out this older Longines that I bought back in the mid-ish 80's. It had always been a very nice watch, but I originally stopped wearing it when I was doing a lot of machining. Have some meetings coming up and thought it would be time to start wearing it again.
http://jrcholsters.com/images/stories/personal/longines.jpg

[splittime]

Finally got my grail ( for now). Most comfortable watch I ever tried

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/2f43ef0c79350713783d27882a891f88.jpg


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[fuse]

Hope ya'll don't own any kobold

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=msg&th=2371496&rid=0#msg_7500977

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[mtnbkr]

Here's a left-field question...

Anyone have any experience with Chinese watches? I am looking for a new watch that's on the dressier side (without being gaudy). I have skinny wrists (6.5") and find most divers or "tactical" orient watches simply too large. Anything bigger than 40mm is a non-starter. When I was heavier, I wore an Orange Monster for a bit over a decade, but at my current size, it looks and feels ridiculous. My current EDC watch is a G-Shock 5600 series, which is roughly the size I'd like to stick with.

So, my requirements are:
New. Not opposed to used, but only if the price is right.
Understated "dressy". Will be wearing this to work, church, etc. I have the G-Shock for rough duty and EDC.
Leather band. Bracelet is acceptable depending on the overall package.
Mechanical movement (manual wind or automatic with manual option).
Smaller case (40mm or less, preferably in the 35mm-38mm range).
Water resistant to a level that would keep the watch safe in the rain. I'm not going swimming with it on.
< $300 because this is man jewelry and I'm not coordinating tactical strikes or operating in demanding environments. It's difficult to justify an expensive watch when my $40 G-Shock keeps perfect time.

I found the Seagull Dong Feng, which is just about perfect. Every review I've read has been positive. Other than being from Commie China, it's a nearly perfect fit.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f67/seagull-dongfeng-reissue-4086634.html

I've also considered some of the dressier Seiko 5s, but I prefer a leather band and most of the nicer looking Seikos have bracelets.

Timex recently re-issued the Marlin. On the surface, it's also a good fit for what I want, but the reviews have been mixed. One tear-down review indicated the movement is not very good, with internal flaws and shortcuts that you wouldn't see in a Chinese watch or a Seiko 5, both of which cost less.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Chris

[Jim Watson]

Embarking on a five times a year chore, advancing my analog watch dates to the first.
I don't NEED a new watch, but if I did, I would be shopping for an analog face, digital date.

[MEH]

Thoughts? Suggestions?


I would get the Seiko5 that appeals and put a leather band on it. In fact, that's what I did.

[vcdgrips]

The Orient Bambinos would likely fit the bill and be well under 300.00

[Crawls]

Here's a left-field question...

Anyone have any experience with Chinese watches? I am looking for a new watch that's on the dressier side (without being gaudy). I have skinny wrists (6.5") and find most divers or "tactical" orient watches simply too large. Anything bigger than 40mm is a non-starter. When I was heavier, I wore an Orange Monster for a bit over a decade, but at my current size, it looks and feels ridiculous. My current EDC watch is a G-Shock 5600 series, which is roughly the size I'd like to stick with.

So, my requirements are:
New. Not opposed to used, but only if the price is right.
Understated "dressy". Will be wearing this to work, church, etc. I have the G-Shock for rough duty and EDC.
Leather band. Bracelet is acceptable depending on the overall package.
Mechanical movement (manual wind or automatic with manual option).
Smaller case (40mm or less, preferably in the 35mm-38mm range).
Water resistant to a level that would keep the watch safe in the rain. I'm not going swimming with it on.
< $300 because this is man jewelry and I'm not coordinating tactical strikes or operating in demanding environments. It's difficult to justify an expensive watch when my $40 G-Shock keeps perfect time.

I found the Seagull Dong Feng, which is just about perfect. Every review I've read has been positive. Other than being from Commie China, it's a nearly perfect fit.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f67/seagull-dongfeng-reissue-4086634.html

I've also considered some of the dressier Seiko 5s, but I prefer a leather band and most of the nicer looking Seikos have bracelets.

Timex recently re-issued the Marlin. On the surface, it's also a good fit for what I want, but the reviews have been mixed. One tear-down review indicated the movement is not very good, with internal flaws and shortcuts that you wouldn't see in a Chinese watch or a Seiko 5, both of which cost less.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Chris

I shy away from most things made in China, but I think the Seagull watches are cool. I would buy one just 'cause they're different and because they typically have a pretty authentic retro appearance that I appreciate. Orient also makes some nice looking watches that meet your requirements. The Orient "Bambino" can be had for < $150.

ETA: VDC Grips apparently types faster than I do and Tom's offer is hard to beat.

[mtnbkr]

Thanks all and thank you Tom!

I neglected to put the Orients on my list above, but they too were up for consideration.

I did a lot of reading over the last couple days regarding the Sea-Gull watches. When I first heard about them, my initial response was "pffft, Chinese junk copies". However, after reading various reviews and posts by owners and watching a few Youtube videos, they are apparently much better timepieces than I originally assumed. In fact, a number of reviewers are favorably pitting the mid-to-high level Sea-Gulls against entry level Swiss watches, with the line of thinking being that the Chinese watches will overtake that part of the Swiss market unless the latter improves their game somewhat. Comments about resting on laurels and all...

Nice thing about a Chinese mechanical watch vs their phones is the former isn't likely to spy on you. :D

Chris

[scjbash]

I would get the Seiko5 that appeals and put a leather band on it. In fact, that's what I did.

My grandfather's ancient Timex finally crapped out a few months ago so I bought him a Seiko 5. Turns out he's not active enough to wear an auto these days so he gave it back. I put a Rios leather strap on it and while it's not the exact watch I'd pick out for myself it looks good. With 5's and decent straps available at such low prices it's a not a bad way to go about putting a watch together.

[JodyH]

Thanks all and thank you Tom!

I neglected to put the Orients on my list above, but they too were up for consideration.

I did a lot of reading over the last couple days regarding the Sea-Gull watches. When I first heard about them, my initial response was "pffft, Chinese junk copies". However, after reading various reviews and posts by owners and watching a few Youtube videos, they are apparently much better timepieces than I originally assumed. In fact, a number of reviewers are favorably pitting the mid-to-high level Sea-Gulls against entry level Swiss watches, with the line of thinking being that the Chinese watches will overtake that part of the Swiss market unless the latter improves their game somewhat. Comments about resting on laurels and all...

Nice thing about a Chinese mechanical watch vs their phones is the former isn't likely to spy on you. :D

Chris
My Sea-Gull.
It rattles like a coffee can half-full of marbles but keeps good time (gains about 5 seconds a day) and has about 50 hours of power reserve.
Well made but a bit crude in places. The "leather" and nylon strap is probably dog skin.

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[JodyH]

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[mtnbkr]

So this arrived today. I told you I had skinny wrists. :)

Thanks Tom!

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Regarding Sea-Gull, thanks for that input Jody. What exactly is rattling? Is it the rotor in the automatic mechanism? I could sometimes hear my Seiko's rotor if I was moving my hand around a lot near my head.

Chris

[JodyH]

Regarding Sea-Gull, thanks for that input Jody. What exactly is rattling? Is it the rotor in the automatic mechanism? I could sometimes hear my Seiko's rotor if I was moving my hand around a lot near my head.
The rotor.
I can hear it anytime I slightly shake my wrist (and I can't hear shit).
My wife can hear it when I'm driving and turn the steering wheel.
It sounds like a baby rattle.

[JodyH]

While I was there, I noticed the 857 wall clock (http://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/Sinn-857-Analog-Wall-Clock-19p4320.htm):

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I don't need a $430 quartz wall clock, but I still think it's cool (and still really want it). :)
If it was a dual time 856 UTC wall clock I'd buy one for my office.
Because nothing says professional nerd like a GMT wall clock.

[fuse]

I talked myself out of buying one of those last year (or the year before, time flies...) but I went and looked at WatchBuys and they are still available (http://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/Sinn-U1-Camouflage-Limited-Edition-10p2809.htm). If I had a "extra" $2230, I'd order one right now.

While I was there, I noticed the 857 wall clock (http://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/Sinn-857-Analog-Wall-Clock-19p4320.htm):

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I don't need a $430 quartz wall clock, but I still think it's cool (and still really want it). :)But does the bezel rotate. It will be baller as hell timing everyday tasks with a 15 inch rotating bezel.

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[mtnbkr]

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I don't need a $430 quartz wall clock, but I still think it's cool (and still really want it). :)

I want to see it around Flavor Flav's neck. :D

Chris

[El Cid]

While I was there, I noticed the 857 wall clock (http://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/Sinn-857-Analog-Wall-Clock-19p4320.htm):

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I don't need a $430 quartz wall clock, but I still think it's cool (and still really want it). :)
Please stop spending my money.

[mtnbkr]

So, the other day a the Seiko SNK805 Flieger-style watch (https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SNK805-Automatic-Stainless-Canvas/dp/B000LTAY1U) I've been mulling over dropped below $53. At that price, I pretty much had to buy it. Now, I'm not crazy about the face (too busy) or the color, but these watches are the Glock 19 of the watch world. They re infinitely moddable and parts are everywhere. They use the same movement (7s26) as Seiko's entry level diver watches (SKX007/009 for example) and the same size dial (28.5mm). The dial looks smaller because it lacks the ginormous chapter ring that the dive watches sport, but the dial itself is the same.

I was going with a Sinn 556a-style build, but decided that might be a bit cluttered, especially if I use the Sinn-style hands. Instead, I think I'm going to go in a Rolex Adventurer direction using this dial (http://www.dagazwatch.com/apps/webstore/products/show/3400605). I've already ordered the double-domed AR-coated sapphire crystal (the Rolex uses flat crystals, but I prefer the look of the domed ones). For hands, I think I'm going to stick with the factory hour and minute hands, but may change the second hand to a completely red, orange, or yellow one for better visibility. To finish it off, I'm going to find a nice black leather band, something padded with contrast stitching.

As for the watch in its current configuration, it's a good wearing watch for my frame. It doesn't dominate my wrist, nor does it catch on my cuff. It practically disappears while I wear it. The automatic-wind rotor is a bit noisier than I recall from my Orange Monster, but not so much I'm bothered by it. It's a nice watch for the money. I wouldn't pay the $195 MSRP, but it's worth at least the $55 (after tax) price I paid.

Chris

[nalesq]

Worn by COL Paul Tibbets while he nuked Hiroshima:

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[RoyGBiv]

^^^^^ Serious question : Is that yours?

Less serious question : why is it not glowing?

[98z28]

Just received this Sinn EZM 3F on OEM silicon yesterday. Didn't think I'd like the strap, but it's very comfy. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180320/0585a68a6c5e5a74f37a9b2e32a77ec4.jpg

[nalesq]

^^^^^ Serious question : Is that yours?

Less serious question : why is it not glowing?

No, not mine. It’s on display at the National WWII museum in New Orleans, next to his eerily prosaic flight record from August 1945.

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[JSGlock34]

The new Baselworld 2018 watches are going to be bad for my wallet. Omega revived the wave dial 300M Seamaster in homage to the 25th anniversary of the 1993 model (made famous in Goldeneye) and it is beautiful. Rolex brought back the Pepsi GMT II in steel - highly anticipated and certainly not unexpected - but unfortunately the price (and wait) continue to climb. But the biggest surprise was Tudor releasing a Black Bay GMT - in Pepsi colors! I expect the latter will sell like crazy, and I may well take a hard look.

https://www.omegawatches.com/media/catalog/product/cache/image_1/800x1100/beff4985b56e3afdbeabfc89641a4582/2/1/21030422003001.png
New Omega 300M Seamaster

https://hodinkee.imgix.net/uploads/images/1521630494233-p7w8q6auaws-7c1fb417ca5aa508a2fdd2a483ed7f2a/GMT_1.jpg?ixlib=rails-1.1.0&auto=format&ch=Width%2CDPR%2CSave-Data&fit=crop&fm=jpg&q=55&usm=12&w=820&
New Rolex GMT II "Pepsi"

https://hodinkee.imgix.net/uploads/images/1521632012116-kfotlv4h0p-1b13af268db5d552682e7b7c496eb159/bb_05.jpg?ixlib=rails-1.1.0&auto=format&ch=Width%2CDPR%2CSave-Data&fit=max&fm=jpg&h=656&q=55&usm=12&w=984&
New Tudor Black Bay GMT

[98z28]

Been enjoying this one more than I expected too. Picked it up on a whim locally. No box, no papers, and unknown service history...also cheap. Found it at a local, trusted jewler who agreed to send it off to an Omega service center and have it overhauled. Running ~+2 seconds per day since it came back.

It's the Omega Speedmaster Automatic, reference 3510.50 (aka Speedmaster Reduced). It's quite a bit smaller than the Speedmaster Professional, which is good for my child-like wrists. I'm not a big Omega guy anyway, and the Speedy Pro looks cartoonish on me. This one works well.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180329/74b5aac53d13afa2f5f687cd4c528b08.jpg

[mtnbkr]

I recently came across a good deal on a Seiko SKX009K, so I picked that up. I didn't like the rubber strap, nor do I like bracelets, so I stuck it on a Barton QR canvas strap. It's good fit and comfortable. I may pick up a navy one to switch out since the QR feature makes this simple.

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The SNK mod I mentioned above is still in progress. I'm waiting on the dial to arrive from APAC.

Chris

[theJanitor]

The new Baselworld 2018 watches are going to be bad for my wallet. Omega revived the wave dial 300M Seamaster in homage to the 25th anniversary of the 1993 model (made famous in Goldeneye) and it is beautiful. Rolex brought back the Pepsi GMT II in steel - highly anticipated and certainly not unexpected - but unfortunately the price (and wait) continue to climb. But the biggest surprise was Tudor releasing a Black Bay GMT - in Pepsi colors! I expect the latter will sell like crazy, and I may well take a hard look.



Not like i can afford to buy a new GMT (and i'd probably go for the standard with green hand, anyway), but I think the pepsi would look better not on a jubilee.

also, I've worked for the past five or six years now with a Government relations guy at Pepsi. He wears an old steel pepsi given to him by his father.

[JSGlock34]

Not like i can afford to buy a new GMT (and i'd probably go for the standard with green hand, anyway), but I think the pepsi would look better not on a jubilee.

Agree on the bracelet (and the escalating price of the GMT).

[98z28]

I've been meaning to post this one for a while. It's a Monta Triumph with grey dial. I have to say that pictures do not even come close to doing these watches justice. The chamfered and polished edges play with light and give the watch a refined feel that doesn't get communicated in pictures. The bracelet is the most comfortable I've ever worn. With 150m water resistance, good lume, and AR coating on the underside of the sapphire crystal only (Sinn should be taking notes!), it's a great "one watch" watch.

Edited to add: Forgot to add a link: https://montawatch.com
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180416/46f3a994ce2b8106c79ef8a98e55b4d1.jpg

[fuse]

Been enjoying this one more than I expected too. Picked it up on a whim locally. No box, no papers, and unknown service history...also cheap. Found it at a local, trusted jewler who agreed to send it off to an Omega service center and have it overhauled. Running ~+2 seconds per day since it came back.

It's the Omega Speedmaster Automatic, reference 3510.50 (aka Speedmaster Reduced). It's quite a bit smaller than the Speedmaster Professional, which is good for my child-like wrists. I'm not a big Omega guy anyway, and the Speedy Pro looks cartoonish on me. This one works well.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180329/74b5aac53d13afa2f5f687cd4c528b08.jpgPlus it's an auto, no hand-winding. Mine primitive hand cranker says hi https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180423/d97c0ebb646ea661036ec2cd4951b096.jpg

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[JFK]

Plus it's an auto, no hand-winding. Mine primitive hand cranker says hi https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180423/d97c0ebb646ea661036ec2cd4951b096.jpg

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I like this. I have yet to own an Omega. I have always loved the classic Constellation. But this is clean for a chrono.

[JFK]

I don’t usually like deco style anything but this one I couldn’t pass up.

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[SD]

WEMPE26809

[mtnbkr]

I finally finished my semi-custom Seiko "Sinn 556a Homage". Lemme tell ya...The youtube videos make it look a lot easier than it is. The crystal replacement was easy, as was the dial, but the hands were a nightmare for me. If you have really steady hands and great eyesight, it might not be too bad, but I have neither. I'm not 100% convinced I have the hands perfectly aligned, so at Noon/Midnight, the hour and minute hands may not be perfectly stacked, but I think it looks good otherwise. I did ding up the lower edge of the hour hand. It shows up as a shiny mark in the picture above. I could probably touch it up with a Sharpie, but isn't noticeable while wearing it. I'm not crazy about the band, a cheap "Bond-style" NATO, so that may get changed, but it'll do for now.

This started out as a Seiko SNK805 I picked up off Amazon for less than $55 shipped. I replaced the mineral glass crystal with a blue AR coated and domed sapphire crystal from AjuiceT (https://ajuicet.com/) via eBay. The dial is a Sinn-style dial and hands from AjuiceT's (https://ajuicet.com/) site once I learned he had a regular site. I started out with a different, arguably nicer, dial from a vendor in Singapore, but his was .5mm too large and the positioning pins too thin and short, so it wouldn't work for my watch. Rather than bother sending it back to Singapore for a refund, I just ate the $15 loss. He did send another dial, but that one had pins in the wrong location. :rolleyes: Between communication delays and issues, I just gave up and went to AjuiceT. He's not only responsive and US-based, his service is fast and he stands behind his stuff. I highly recommend him if you want to get into this hobby.

Don't let the pic fool you. This is a small watch and I have small wrists.

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I have a Seiko SKX diver I want to lightly mod, but I won't be touching the dial or hands there. I'll be replacing the chapter ring with a brushed aluminum one with no marks and installing a domed sapphire crystal with red AR coating (flashes red when viewed at an angle, will go nicely with the red in the bezel).

Chris

[That Guy]

I have a question on watch maintenance:

After lubricating your Suunto digital watch using the standard method of pouring used motor oil liberally down your sleeve, how do you get rid of the smell? Normal soap nor dishwashing liquid doesn't seem to help. (Well, the dishwashing stuff worked better, but there is still an odor.)

[EricG]

My contributionhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180704/87e3b872eecae578864b911e95833d71.jpg

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[EricG]

One more...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180704/e33db97383d0c45ae803bfb74e45ad26.jpg

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[That Guy]

I have a question on watch maintenance:

After lubricating your Suunto digital watch using the standard method of pouring used motor oil liberally down your sleeve, how do you get rid of the smell? Normal soap nor dishwashing liquid doesn't seem to help. (Well, the dishwashing stuff worked better, but there is still an odor.)

To answer my own question, it seems getting some sweat and bug spray on it, soaking it in rainwater (..."occasional light rainshowers" my light beige butt), and washing it seems to be getting rid of the odor. At least, until the next oil change. :p

[Colt191145lover]

My Citizen Promaster Diver BN0190-07E that I got for my Birthday. 27878

[Eugene]

Garmin Vivomove HR
https://s20.postimg.cc/8uqrwtufx/0208181645_cropped.jpg

[Duke]

.........

[Sigfan26]

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I found a Movado outlet... it hurts


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[Dropkick]

My Citizen Promaster Diver BN0190-07E that I got for my Birthday.

Nice choice. If you get sick of the rubber, black leather or black Nato straps look great on it too.

[Colt191145lover]

Nice choice. If you get sick of the rubber, black leather or black Nato straps look great on it too.


Thanks! I was planning on ordering a NATO strap to try out.

[backtrail540]

I'm new to watches as of this year and sticking under the $1k budget so far as I dabble around. I've been enjoying this Christopher Ward the last week on a Haveston m1936 nato. Enjoyable combo!

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Also here are a few combo's I've been playing with on the Lum Tec's!

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[backtrail540]

And a few of the Christopher Ward on the factory leather as well as the Haveston quarterdeck in blue canvas, plus a random perlon.

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[98z28]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/acdf5be050706a57d67e6b7864366ead.jpg

The Monta Triumph has been one of those rare watches that I get more excited about the more I wear it. In fact, I've been so impressed that I just pre-ordered the gen 2 Oceanking (https://montawatch.com/collections/oceanking/products/oceanking-60-minute-bezel) and the Skyquest (https://montawatch.com/products/skyquest). Why both? Well, the pre-order window was closing and I couldn't decide between the two. First world problems.

These pictures aren't mine (these models aren't shipping yet):

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/47b7c9eaf1a39fdb167f44c660d4cfdf.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/fe0225b36d15265074a361558d8df1e8.jpg

[ubervic]

And a few of the Christopher Ward...

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This timepiece really catches my eye. The simple, clean, bold design wins.

[backtrail540]

This timepiece really catches my eye. The simple, clean, bold design wins.

I've really been enjoying it. It goes just as well on perlon or a nato as it does dressed up with a bit of leather or canvas. Versatile and clean. I've been very happy with it and will have at least 2 more Christopher Ward's by years end.

[ubervic]

I've really been enjoying it. It goes just as well on perlon or a nato as it does dressed up with a bit of leather or canvas. Versatile and clean. I've been very happy with it and will have at least 2 more Christopher Ward's by years end.

Must be nice. :)

[GardoneVT]

Zero dark thirty with my Tissot ref. T055430A

https://i.imgur.com/XNvuiV2_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Wondering Beard]

I think I'll be eating gruel for a while.

For my wife, for her birthday or our anniversary. I haven't decided which yet.

Please excuse the low quality iPhone photo.


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[Wondering Beard]

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[SD]

30044whats it say on the strap?

[Wondering Beard]

whats it say on the strap?

Tom_Jones has it right.

I didn't even notice there was anything there until I took the photo. On the wrist, it's barely visible.

It's Hamilton's Spirit of Liberty collection (https://shop.hamiltonwatch.com/spirit-of-liberty.html).

[98z28]

The Monta Oceanking is finally shipping: https://montawatch.com/collections/oceanking/products/oceanking-60-minute-bezel

Loving it so far. Can't wait to see the Skyquest in the metal. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180921/df717c1d9b3a13b8aca245cf7d6c673e.jpg

[theJanitor]

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[Totem Polar]

I luvs me a little black bay and pelagos action.

[theJanitor]

Yeah. My buddy just snagged it this week.


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[theJanitor]

https://i.imgur.com/IKkHQSE.jpg?1

[Totem Polar]

Baller.

[theJanitor]

Baller.

HA! Hardly. But I think owning a couple of nice watches, 1911's, and pocketknives is a necessity.

[HeavyDuty]

I usually wear a Seiko automatic - I have quite a few Monsters in different colors, a Turtle, a Blumo, a 007, etc. However, I don’t like wearing them when I shoot, I don’t think the recoil impulse will do the movements any favors. I have a couple really cheap quartz watches I wear in the yard and to the range, but they are both on their last legs. I need a new range watch.

I was at Kohl’s doing an Amazon return today and stopped by the watch counter. One thing led to another and an atomic G-Shock with hands followed me home. This one is going right back due to really crappy light on dark LCD illumination, but I like the basic style and am thinking about looking for a different version that has dark on light LCD displays.

The one I’m considering is the AWG-M100SB-2AER. I like this series because it’s not as clunky as most of the digital display G-Shocks, it wears about like a Monster but mutch lighter. Does anyone have experience with this G-Shock caliber? I did a quick keyword search in the thread but didn’t see anything pertinent.

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[fuse]

Doxa Sharkhunter sub 300 reissue. Nearly the original dimensions as it was when released 50 years ago. Weird vintage cool. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180929/175867825a3b299d618024e4b3701c0b.jpg

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[lwt16]

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I usually wear a Seiko automatic - I have quite a few Monsters in different colors, a Turtle, a Blumo, a 007, etc. However, I don’t like wearing them when I shoot, I don’t think the recoil impulse will do the movements any favors. I have a couple really cheap quartz watches I wear in the yard and to the range, but they are both on their last legs. I need a new range watch.



Here's my Monster from 07-08 vintage.....thousands and thousands of rounds down range (9,45, 38, 44spc, 5.56, .308, shotguns, etc) and it never missed a beat. Absolutely brutal treatment at work (fights, soakings, drops, banging into all sorts of things).

It loses a little time now (about a minute or two every three weeks) but it has been the best watch I've ever owned.

Regards.

[NickA]

2nd generation Orange Monster, Father's Day present several years ago. It's been great, I'd like to add another Monster or an SKX eventually.
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[NEPAKevin]

The one I’m considering is the AWG-M100SB-2AER. I like this series because it’s not as clunky as most of the digital display G-Shocks, it wears about like a Monster but mutch lighter. Does anyone have experience with this G-Shock caliber?

Kinda sorta... The first G-shock I have is a GW-1500A which I believe is a predecessor to the one you are considering, that I used as my everyday beater and still runs fine. It is a good watch but the dial and displays are small, the case on the thick side and the hour markers have no luminescence. It appears that the corrected these "issues" and it is still at a price point well below many of the other analog G-shocks.

[fuse]

2nd generation Orange Monster, Father's Day present several years ago. It's been great, I'd like to add another Monster or an SKX eventually.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180929/708f5eb27f22ecdeb9ad4380acf27c09.jpg

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[23JAZ]

Series 4. Amazing how much difference 2 more millimeters make.
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[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

Series 4. Amazing how much difference 2 more millimeters make.
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Considering a 4 to use w/ my Airpods while running, care to PM or post more feedback here on it Jay?

[23JAZ]

Considering a 4 to use w/ my Airpods while running, care to PM or post more feedback here on it Jay?
PM sent sir.

[HeavyDuty]

Well, I’m bummed. I found a blacked out with orange hands and markers version of the analog G-Shock I linked above that I really like, but the light on dark subdials are unreadable in normal indoor lighting, even with the backlight. It’s a shame because I really dig the look.

I have to decide whether to keep it; if it goes back I’ll go with one of the dark on light subdial versions because I like everything else about the watch.

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[23JAZ]

Finally found a “rugged” case for the series 4. Now it’s good to go.
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[DEG]

Older Series 2.

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[GardoneVT]

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Bulova Lunar Pilot w/ Accutron II Moonview in the background.

[Trooper224]

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Bulova Lunar Pilot w/ Accutron II Moonview in the background.

The Lunar Pilot/Moon watch is one of my faves and the one I wear in uniform. How do you like the Moonview?

[GardoneVT]

The Lunar Pilot/Moon watch is one of my faves and the one I wear in uniform. How do you like the Moonview?

It’s a beauty. I ordered the Rose Gold version as a move out of my comfort zone, and stand grateful that I took the risk. It’s a classy shade of rose gold that doesn’t scream “flashy”, and yet still pays homage to the Bulova Accutron Astronaut watches work by flight crews in the USAF and NASA.

The interactions between Bulova & Omega with regard to NASA are the stuff of an Indiana Jones movie. There’s so much fanboy BS around this subject that I actually had to hunt down old NASA memos to get to the facts . Essentially the Bulova Moonwatch was built as a series of 16 prototypes submitted for evaluation , because Bulova alleged the circumstances of the Speedmasters adoption were arbitrary.

Funny thing is they were right. According to NASAs documented testing protocol , the Omega Speedmaster failed too. It gained 21 minutes during the decompression test, which failed the test specification of gaining or losing no more then 5 seconds per day. Yet based on the fact flight crews were already using the Speedmaster, NASA provided an “interim” approval of the Speedmaster with permanent approval being conditional of Omega adding a 24 hour bezel to the Speedmaster. This naturally never happened- then two years later Deke Slayton sent a memo to the NASA contracting chief titled “Justification for Noncompetitive Procurement of the Omega Chronograph, Model 6126”

In this document Slayton stated the Omega chronograph is environmentally qualified for flight use, and that the logistical cost of switching agency documentation and other resources to a replacement model would be prohibitive. Seeing as how NASAs testing showed the “interim” issue Speedmaster gained 21 minutes during the decompression test,one wonders what Slayton meant by “environmentally qualified”. We may never know.

I tried to find documentation about the test involving the Bulova prototypes which inspired the current Lunar Pilot, but it’s hard to come by in the public domain. Perhaps this is an intentional development. But one things sure- Apollo 15s crew used one when their Speedmaster soiled the sheets , and it’s the only privately owned watch to go to the moon.

[Trooper224]

It’s a beauty. I ordered the Rose Gold version as a move out of my comfort zone, and stand grateful that I took the risk. It’s a classy shade of rose gold that doesn’t scream “flashy”, and yet still pays homage to the Bulova Accutron Astronaut watches work by flight crews in the USAF and NASA.

The interactions between Bulova & Omega with regard to NASA are the stuff of an Indiana Jones movie. There’s so much fanboy BS around this subject that I actually had to hunt down old NASA memos to get to the facts . Essentially the Bulova Moonwatch was built as a series of 16 prototypes submitted for evaluation , because Bulova alleged the circumstances of the Speedmasters adoption were arbitrary.

Funny thing is they were right. According to NASAs documented testing protocol , the Omega Speedmaster failed too. It gained 21 minutes during the decompression test, which failed the test specification of gaining or losing no more then 5 seconds per day. Yet based on the fact flight crews were already using the Speedmaster, NASA provided an “interim” approval of the Speedmaster with permanent approval being conditional of Omega adding a 24 hour bezel to the Speedmaster. This naturally never happened- then two years later Deke Slayton sent a memo to the NASA contracting chief titled “Justification for Noncompetitive Procurement of the Omega Chronograph, Model 6126”

In this document Slayton stated the Omega chronograph is environmentally qualified for flight use, and that the logistical cost of switching agency documentation and other resources to a replacement model would be prohibitive. Seeing as how NASAs testing showed the “interim” issue Speedmaster gained 21 minutes during the decompression test,one wonders what Slayton meant by “environmentally qualified”. We may never know.

I tried to find documentation about the test involving the Bulova prototypes which inspired the current Lunar Pilot, but it’s hard to come by in the public domain. Perhaps this is an intentional development. But one things sure- Apollo 15s crew used one when their Speedmaster soiled the sheets , and it’s the only privately owned watch to go to the moon.

After Dave Scott's Bulova was auctioned off, one of the watch blogs did an interview with him. I found it amusing, for the most part. Mainly because you had a group of watch geeks trying to get exciting tidbits and drama surrounding the watch. Something on the order of the Speedmaster being used for the course correction burn on Apollo 13. The amusing thing was that Scott obviously could have cared less. Bulova asked him to evaluate the watch, so he took it along on Apollo 15 as part of his personal gear. He stated, quite logically, that being issued one watch was a single failure point and pretty stupid, hence the Bulova's ride to the moon. His Speedy shit the bed, so he whipped out the Bulova. When they tried to find some associated drama he stated, it must have worked fine because he couldn't recall looking at it after putting it on. When asked for specifics about the watches performance, he said he couldn't recall since he had bigger concerns at the time. When the watch was returned to him after the mission, he threw it in a box and forgot about it and he never bothered to get back to Bulova concerning its performance. He didn't even remember what kind of watch it was, until he took it out for auction. He actually seemed to be irritated by some of their questions, like Star Trek fans asking William Shatner which kind of warp drive is better.

[rayrevolver]

At some point in the past I ended up 2 of these Tonino Lamborghini watches. I think my brother bought them and gave them to me.

Any idea if they are worth anything? The bottom one still has plastic on it and they both come in boxes.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1955/45581723781_1073cee65a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2crUfrk)

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1945/31709246238_c901db2aaf_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Qj3bb3)

[Savage Hands]

Finally found a “rugged” case for the series 4. Now it’s good to go.
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What case is that? I just scratched my screen yesterday :mad:

[GardoneVT]

After Dave Scott's Bulova was auctioned off, one of the watch blogs did an interview with him. I found it amusing, for the most part. Mainly because you had a group of watch geeks trying to get exciting tidbits and drama surrounding the watch. Something on the order of the Speedmaster being used for the course correction burn on Apollo 13. The amusing thing was that Scott obviously could have cared less. Bulova asked him to evaluate the watch, so he took it along on Apollo 15 as part of his personal gear. He stated, quite logically, that being issued one watch was a single failure point and pretty stupid, hence the Bulova's ride to the moon. His Speedy shit the bed, so he whipped out the Bulova. When they tried to find some associated drama he stated, it must have worked fine because he couldn't recall looking at it after putting it on. When asked for specifics about the watches performance, he said he couldn't recall since he had bigger concerns at the time. When the watch was returned to him after the mission, he threw it in a box and forgot about it and he never bothered to get back to Bulova concerning its performance. He didn't even remember what kind of watch it was, until he took it out for auction. He actually seemed to be irritated by some of their questions, like Star Trek fans asking William Shatner which kind of warp drive is better.

It doesn’t surprise me one bit. I made it 20 minutes into a 40 minute watch blogger podcast before the egotistical snobbery got too much to bear.

[23JAZ]

What case is that? I just scratched my screen yesterday :mad:
Sup UB Pro. Got it on Amazon. Been wearing it for a couple weeks now and the case and watch still looks like new.

[perlslacker]

I tried on a Grand Seiko for the first time today. Fantastically well-made watches, especially for the money. My one sort-of gripe is that Seiko cheaps out on their bracelets even at that level; it was nice but not what you'd expect from a comparably-priced Rolex or Omega.

A Spring Drive model, preferably a Snowflake, is even higher on my bucket list now.

e: Like, I'm wearing a Submariner right now and if it weren't an heirloom I would have traded it in for a GS. As far as I'm concerned, Rolexes only have two things going over GS: the bracelets are better, and flexing on people who aren't really into watches.

[Crawls]

I tried on a Grand Seiko for the first time today. Fantastically well-made watches, especially for the money. My one sort-of gripe is that Seiko cheaps out on their bracelets even at that level; it was nice but not what you'd expect from a comparably-priced Rolex or Omega.

A Spring Drive model, preferably a Snowflake, is even higher on my bucket list now.

e: Like, I'm wearing a Submariner right now and if it weren't an heirloom I would have traded it in for a GS. As far as I'm concerned, Rolexes only have two things going over GS: the bracelets are better, and flexing on people who aren't really into watches.

Interesting comment on the bracelet. It wasn't long ago that that people were knocking Rolex for having shoddy bracelets relative to lower priced Seikos like the Monster. Rolex has really stepped up its game on the quality of it bracelets in the past decade. A Spring Drive Snowflake would be a must have if I ever win the powerball.

[perlslacker]

Interesting comment on the bracelet. It wasn't long ago that that people were knocking Rolex for having shoddy bracelets relative to lower priced Seikos like the Monster. Rolex has really stepped up its game on the quality of it bracelets in the past decade.

The only complaint I’ve ever heard about Rolex bracelets is that the hollow end links on the old ones rattle, which mine do. I’ve never heard ANY Seiko bracelets he spoken of positively but then I don’t know every watch nerd out there.

AFAIK Rolex stepped their bracelet game up in response to Omega, which is a good thing. Can’t let people get complacent.

[Trooper224]

The new Bulova Devil Diver reissue.
http://a4.pbase.com/g10/64/521964/2/168432197.GqlwltZ0.jpg

[backtrail540]

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I've been digging this combo lately. Lumtec combat b39 phantom on a haveston forecastle canvas. Canvas straps are becoming my favorite to wear and i believe lumtec is coming out with an automatic version of the phantom possibly with a date window which will be cool.

[Stephanie B]

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Cheap-ass Timex. After 4 years, I had to replace the battery.

[perlslacker]

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Cheap-ass Timex. After 4 years, I had to replace the battery.

gotta upgrade that ish (https://www.amazon.com/Casio-DW-5600TB-4B-G-Shock-5600/dp/B078DFKXHW/ref=asc_df_B078DFKXHW/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309733717659&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4431120267997158404&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026807&hvtargid=pla-524436830048&psc=1)

https://i.imgur.com/onWGeIZ.jpg

[BillSWPA]

I do not visit this thread much, but did notice a misconception that should be corrected. There is no reason to avoid wearing a watch with an automatic movement while shooting. Your hand and arm provides adequate shock absorption.

Direct impacts to the watch are what should be avoided.




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[Norville]

Since changing employment I’ve been traveling a lot, so I “need” a GMT

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[perlslacker]

Since changing employment I’ve been traveling a lot, so I “need” a GMT

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Is that a SBGN007? I thought those were still in the preorder phase.

[Norville]

Is that a SBGN007? I thought those were still in the preorder phase.

Yes it is. They hit the dealers recently, along with the maroon 245, which I tried but found too big.

Here’s a pic in direct sun that shows thup dial better

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[perlslacker]

Yes it is. They hit the dealers recently, along with the maroon 245, which I tried but found too big.


I've been really trying to not buy one of those and you're not helping.

There's a dude trying to move a SBGN001 on a couple watch forums for $2600 rn but I don't care for the Explorer II knockoff bezel.

[Norville]

I tried that one as well, and really wanted to like it. The bezel seems less prominent in the metal but in the end subtlety won out.

[Stephanie B]

gotta upgrade that ish (https://www.amazon.com/Casio-DW-5600TB-4B-G-Shock-5600/dp/B078DFKXHW/ref=asc_df_B078DFKXHW/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309733717659&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4431120267997158404&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026807&hvtargid=pla-524436830048&psc=1)

https://i.imgur.com/onWGeIZ.jpg

$99? No thanks.

I bought the Timex so I’d have a cheap watch for flying. Now, I pretty much only wear it when I’m going to the movies, so I can see how long it’s taken for the goddamn previews and ads since the time the movie was “supposed” to start.

[RJ]

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[RJ]

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No, I’m not sure why I posted this here either.

I think I was going for the meme thread and missed.

Apologies.


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[JodyH]

Doxa Sharkhunter sub 300 reissue. Nearly the original dimensions as it was when released 50 years ago. Weird vintage cool.
I have the orange "Professional".
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[perlslacker]

I do not visit this thread much, but did notice a misconception that should be corrected. There is no reason to avoid wearing a watch with an automatic movement while shooting. Your hand and arm provides adequate shock absorption.

Direct impacts to the watch are what should be avoided.




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I wore my Vostok during a pistol class. A thousand or so rounds later it keeps terrible time.

It kept terrible time before though, so results are inconclusive.

[fuse]

I have the orange "Professional".
33529I'm jelly. That's the one everyone thinks of when they think Doxa.

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[BillSWPA]

I wore my Vostok during a pistol class. A thousand or so rounds later it keeps terrible time.

It kept terrible time before though, so results are inconclusive.

I have worn a mechanical watch for numerous trips to the shooting range, mowing the lawn, etc. with zero issues. I asked the service center about various activities, and they do not believe any of those activities would be likely to damage the movement. Direct impacts to the watch are what to avoid.


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[Trooper224]

I'm jelly. That's the one everyone thinks of when they think Doxa.

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A Doxa Sharkhunter is my current "gotta have" watch.

[Duke]

Avoiding commenting in this thread at all costs.

[JodyH]

A Doxa Sharkhunter is my current "gotta have" watch.
The DivingStar Poseidon is the one I let slip away from me.
I pre-ordered but flipped it immediately to someone who wanted the watch way more than I did.

[98z28]

The Monta Skyquest finally shipped https://montawatch.com/products/skyquest . It's just as impressive as the Oceanking and Triumph. This is a company to keep an eye on, in my amature opinion.

They do have some QC isues to figure out, though. My Oceanking had to go back twice for dust under the crystal (arrived from the factory that way and came back after repair with a new speck). The Skyquest will have to go back for the same issue. I haven't read any reports on this in other forums, so I suspect I'm just that lucky. Monta has paid shipping and offered goodies each time (throwing in some of their $200+ straps). They are run by a team from an established company that makes high-end straps for Rolex, Everest Horology, so I suspect they'll keep iterating and get better and better. We'll see. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181225/e83c3589570f3e32bda2157e1db54743.jpg

[NickA]

Seiko SNZG15, from Santa [emoji41]
I have several diver style watches, so I wanted something different, more of a field watch look and a thinner case.
This is basically a bigger version (42mm case, I think) of the super inexpensive SNK809, and still only $100ish. I think I'm going to really like it.

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[drjaydvm]

Christmas present to myself after a profitable year at work but a shitty year at homehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181228/bf1b9ed85c9437d1e049c0cb63c55b87.jpg

[RJ]

21 years and still going.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181228/1ba820220ed4e88443785dd3650be6ba.jpg

Accuracy is still about -1.0 seconds per day, worn daily. This has been pretty consistent since the last service / regulation by the guy at my local dealer here in Tampa last year.

Oh, and my morale patch for 2018 lol.

[theJanitor]

21 years and still going...worn daily.

Damn, that's bling for a daily.

[JM Campbell]

Damn, that's bling for a daily.

Gotta like Rich’s style though.


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[theJanitor]

I was in the Rolex store in Waikiki last night. EVERYTHING in there was geared toward a rich Chinese (my wife is Chinese, but far from rich). Gaudy colors and bezels galore. Not a single Diver/GMT/explorer/etc to be found. I was wearing a Tudor, and my wife, a Daytona. I think we had the nicest stuff in the store. :cool:

[Larry Sellers]

This thread is great! So much variety (wearing a 15$ timex while reading this)

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[RJ]

This thread is great! So much variety (wearing a 15$ timex while reading this)

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I totally get that too!

My second Ironman in 10 years; the first one still works just got paint on it lol:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181228/6ec404f8a13ac9f6b6d3fa3507a8f43a.jpg

This is what I wear shooting. Or going to WalMart. :cool:

[RJ]

Damn, that's bling for a daily.

In 1997 when I bought it, I had to stop and think for a second, I’ll be honest.

I priced a new one at Mayor’s here in Tampa and evidently Gold prices have gone up a bit. It’s my only jewelry, to be honest. I really do wear it almost every day. I’ve even used it Scuba diving in the Caribbean.

I *have* stopped wearing it changing the oil in the car though. :cool:


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[vcdgrips]

"I was in the Rolex store in Waikiki last night. EVERYTHING in there was geared toward a rich Chinese (my wife is Chinese, but far from rich). Gaudy colors and bezels galore. Not a single Diver/GMT/explorer/etc to be found. I was wearing a Tudor, and my wife, a Daytona. I think we had the nicest stuff in the store."

I would respectfully assert that while demographics may have HISTORICALLY had something to do with the product mix there, there is a "shortage" of the watches you reference worldwide as per Hoodinkees, Worn & wound as well as other PF like watch online resources.

The go to Rolex place in KC since Fall has had exactly 0 stainless Submariners, 0 stainless GMTs and scant few Explorers or even stainless Daytonas.

The other Rolex store in town was rumored to have been allotted two of the the New Stainless Pepsi's GMT IIs for 2018. It took a meeting of the owners with the sales staff to determine which long time seven figure customers were going to get the opportunity to buy the watch at retail-9250 +tax

https://www.rolex.com/watches/gmt-master-ii/m126710blro-0001.html


My watch geek buddy was willing to put down a 10% deposit when the model was first announced fully understanding that it could be years before he could buy one. They declined to accept his deposit because as a 2 Rolex, 1 Panerari 1 Grand Seiko watch owner, he was never going to be in play. They were not going to price gouge, they simply were only going to sell that watch to customers who had, over their lifetime, spent so much more at the store.


USED/PREOWNED Pepsi GMT II Stainless at essentially +2x retail.

https://www.authenticwatches.com/rolex-gmt-ii-126710blro.html#.XCadCWhKiUk

https://www.thewatchbox.com/shop/pre-owned-rolex-gmt-master-ii-pepsi-126710blro-0001/

https://www.crownandcaliber.com/products/rolex-gmt-master-ii-126710-10-10-rol-3dhk7n

[NickA]

I *have* stopped wearing it changing the oil in the car though. :cool:


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During one of the oil busts in the 70s or 80s, my grandfather bought a Rolex from one of his neighbors who hit hard times. It was gold with a bunch of diamonds (President, maybe?) and he wore it while mowing, gardening, feeding cattle, etc. He had about a 5th grade education but did well enough to live among the "rich folks", and never hesitated to tweak their noses a bit [emoji41]

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[JodyH]

The go to Rolex place in KC since Fall has had exactly 0 stainless Submariners, 0 stainless GMTs and scant few Explorers or even stainless Daytonas.

Stainless is the new precious metal when it comes to Rolexes.
Brilliant marketing as usual from the gnomes in Switzerland, selling stainless steel for solid gold prices.

[RJ]

I would respectfully assert that while demographics may have HISTORICALLY had something to do with the product mix there, there is a "shortage" of the watches you reference worldwide as per Hoodinkees, Worn & wound as well as other PF like watch online resources.




I was told essentially this by the Rolex sales guy at Mayors; that the price on my watch was so and so ‘if they were available.’ Apparently they are hard to come by, which puzzled me.

[drjaydvm]

I bought my new stainless gmt last week from a trusted seller on watchuseek because the stainless rolexes are unavailable at authorized retailers. I almost bought a Batman gmt but didn’t want to pay $13k for a 10k watch. I ended up with an unworn black gmt at retail, but without the warrantee. It’s crazy that the stainless rolexes are unobtainium.

[11B10]

I totally get that too!

My second Ironman in 10 years; the first one still works just got paint on it lol:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181228/6ec404f8a13ac9f6b6d3fa3507a8f43a.jpg

This is what I wear shooting. Or going to WalMart. :cool:



Rich, I've never mastered how to post pictures here, so you'll just have to trust me. Some day...With all due respect and apologies to everyone here in this thread, for being a total amateur watch person. I really hate to one up you, but..I've got a Casio G-Shock MT-G watch that gets it's "daily feed" from the same satellite my atomic clocks do. I'm told the accuracy +/- is negligible. I've never had to put any batteries in it because it's solar powered. I've never had it adjusted or even opened up, never had to. It just keeps running perfectly. All I know is it checks out against any time source that's "official." It was a birthday present for my 45th birthday, which was in 1993. I've worn it every day except the days I was in the hospital for any one of my surgeries. It's been in the ocean, many swimming pools, a couple creeks, and oh yeah - every shooting session I've ever had. I've thought about getting another watch, but why should I?

[RJ]

Rich, I've never mastered how to post pictures here, so you'll just have to trust me. Some day...With all due respect and apologies to everyone here in this thread, for being a total amateur watch person. I really hate to one up you, but..I've got a Casio G-Shock MT-G watch that gets it's "daily feed" from the same satellite my atomic clocks do. I'm told the accuracy +/- is negligible. I've never had to put any batteries in it because it's solar powered. I've never had it adjusted or even opened up, never had to. It just keeps running perfectly. All I know is it checks out against any time source that's "official." It was a birthday present for my 45th birthday, which was in 1993. I've worn it every day except the days I was in the hospital for any one of my surgeries. It's been in the ocean, many swimming pools, a couple creeks, and oh yeah - every shooting session I've ever had. I've thought about getting another watch, but why should I?

That’s awesome!

I totally have almost bought a G Shock any number of times; just never found one that suited me. I do understand they are built like tanks.

[LOKNLOD]

It’s pretty easy (ignore the typos — I’m functionally illiterate, mildly dyslexic, and lazy):

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Best of all, this works just fine on your phone accessing Pf via chrome or safari. It’ll post pics right off your camera roll.

[theJanitor]

"I was in the Rolex store in Waikiki last night. EVERYTHING in there was geared toward a rich Chinese (my wife is Chinese, but far from rich). Gaudy colors and bezels galore. Not a single Diver/GMT/explorer/etc to be found. I was wearing a Tudor, and my wife, a Daytona. I think we had the nicest stuff in the store."

I would respectfully assert that while demographics may have HISTORICALLY had something to do with the product mix there, there is a "shortage" of the watches you reference worldwide as per Hoodinkees, Worn & wound as well as other PF like watch online resources.

The go to Rolex place in KC since Fall has had exactly 0 stainless Submariners, 0 stainless GMTs and scant few Explorers or even stainless Daytonas.

The other Rolex store in town was rumored to have been allotted two of the the New Stainless Pepsi's GMT IIs for 2018. It took a meeting of the owners with the sales staff to determine which long time seven figure customers were going to get the opportunity to buy the watch at retail-9250 +tax

https://www.rolex.com/watches/gmt-master-ii/m126710blro-0001.html


My watch geek buddy was willing to put down a 10% deposit when the model was first announced fully understanding that it could be years before he could buy one. They declined to accept his deposit because as a 2 Rolex, 1 Panerari 1 Grand Seiko watch owner, he was never going to be in play. They were not going to price gouge, they simply were only going to sell that watch to customers who had, over their lifetime, spent so much more at the store.


USED/PREOWNED Pepsi GMT II Stainless at essentially +2x retail.

https://www.authenticwatches.com/rolex-gmt-ii-126710blro.html#.XCadCWhKiUk

https://www.thewatchbox.com/shop/pre-owned-rolex-gmt-master-ii-pepsi-126710blro-0001/

https://www.crownandcaliber.com/products/rolex-gmt-master-ii-126710-10-10-rol-3dhk7n

Then other Rolex store in town that caters to locals, not tourists has a much larger selection. Explorers, Milgauss, and sport models

Waikiki is its own planet. And it caters to the wealthy Asian market.

Don’t get me wrong. A sub or a GMT will last a day or two in the local store. But still their selections are well balanced


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[scjbash]

1:00am impulse buy.

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[11B10]

It’s pretty easy (ignore the typos — I’m functionally illiterate, mildly dyslexic, and lazy):

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Tom, thanks again for giving me the information I needed. The last time I tried, the problem was apparently on my end because I couldn't "access" the file that I had created. This is all about me and MY laziness! I will try again.....

[perlslacker]

Rich, I've never mastered how to post pictures here, so you'll just have to trust me. Some day...With all due respect and apologies to everyone here in this thread, for being a total amateur watch person. I really hate to one up you, but..I've got a Casio G-Shock MT-G watch that gets it's "daily feed" from the same satellite my atomic clocks do. I'm told the accuracy +/- is negligible. I've never had to put any batteries in it because it's solar powered. I've never had it adjusted or even opened up, never had to. It just keeps running perfectly. All I know is it checks out against any time source that's "official." It was a birthday present for my 45th birthday, which was in 1993. I've worn it every day except the days I was in the hospital for any one of my surgeries. It's been in the ocean, many swimming pools, a couple creeks, and oh yeah - every shooting session I've ever had. I've thought about getting another watch, but why should I?

I have a similar G-Shock, though I dressed it up.

https://i.imgur.com/hlk74mv.jpg

However, it’s not a satellite. It’s a radio station in Fort Collins, CO that’s operated by NIST, and it’s set to be shut down in 2019 because it got defunded in the new budget.

[11B10]

I have a similar G-Shock, though I dressed it up.

https://i.imgur.com/hlk74mv.jpg

However, it’s not a satellite. It’s a radio station in Fort Collins, CO that’s operated by NIST, and it’s set to be shut down in 2019 because it got defunded in the new budget.



Hmmm, just goes to show you how you should check out your information sources. I was told that the signal did originate from Ft. Collins, then was transmitted to the satellite and then bounced down to us peons. Gee, what are we gonna do about this situation (defunding)?

[perlslacker]

Hmmm, just goes to show you how you should check out your information sources. I was told that the signal did originate from Ft. Collins, then was transmitted to the satellite and then bounced down to us peons. Gee, what are we gonna do about this situation (defunding)?

Nah it’s just shortwave radio. Every region has their own radio station; the G-Shocks will actually choose the frequency based on timezone I believe

[11B10]

Nah it’s just shortwave radio. Every region has their own radio station; the G-Shocks will actually choose the frequency based on timezone I believe

Guess I'll take my aluminum foil hat off now...

[NEPAKevin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsEIxSHG7Fg

[perlslacker]

So I just went to Sam’s Club for the first time and saw a Panerai and a grey dial Aqua Terra.

I was surprised to say the least.

[JodyH]

So I just went to Sam’s Club for the first time and saw a Panerai and a grey dial Aqua Terra.

I was surprised to say the least.
I've seen a $50k Patek Nautilus at Costco.

[Norville]

Defunding? Don’t like the sound of that. Note the “RCVD” icon after nightly update.

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[theJanitor]

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At the local Sam’s Club tonite


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[BillSWPA]

Although those watches are not what one might expect to find at Costco, it is certainly not their first venture into high end, gray market watches. Several years ago, Costco was selling Omega watches when Omega decided to go after the gray market. They did so by placing an original ornamental design on the baseplate of their watches, registering the copyright, and then suing Costco for copyright infringement when Costco sold the watches. This resulted in some interesting rulings from the Ninth Circuit as well as the Supreme Court on the issue of whether the first sale doctrine (first legitimate sale of a copyrighted iitem extinguishes the rights of the copyright holder with respect to that item) applies to any first sale, or only the first sale in the US, Originally, the courts held that the doctrine applies only to the first sale in the US, so Costco's foreign legitimate purchase of genuine watches did not count. This was ultimately reversed, in part due to another case involving imported textbooks, and Omega was ultimately found to have abused its copyright in the image.

[GardoneVT]

I bought my new stainless gmt last week from a trusted seller on watchuseek because the stainless rolexes are unavailable at authorized retailers. I almost bought a Batman gmt but didn’t want to pay $13k for a 10k watch. I ended up with an unworn black gmt at retail, but without the warrantee. It’s crazy that the stainless rolexes are unobtainium.


I was told essentially this by the Rolex sales guy at Mayors; that the price on my watch was so and so ‘if they were available.’ Apparently they are hard to come by, which puzzled me.


Anecdotal RUMINT states Rolex is deliberately limiting supply to combat grey market sales & “improve” the exclusivity of their product.

[BillSWPA]

Anecdotal RUMINT states Rolex is deliberately limiting supply to combat grey market sales & “improve” the exclusivity of their product.

Except that it doesn’t seem to be limiting gray market sales. Instead, it is forcing people who would have preferred to go to a authorized dealer to go to a gray market dealer or to buy a used watch.


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[fuse]

Except that it doesn’t seem to be limiting gray market sales. Instead, it is forcing people who would have preferred to go to a authorized dealer to go to a gray market dealer or to buy a used watch.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkRolex are not exactly available on the grey market. They are certainly available on the 'used' market (someone who buys a gmt and immediately flips it for twice retail price is technically selling used, and not a grey market seller)

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[BillSWPA]

Rolex are not exactly available on the grey market. They are certainly available on the 'used' market (someone who buys a gmt and immediately flips it for twice retail price is technically selling used, and not a grey market seller)

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I just checked four gray market dealer websites. Three had a number of new Rolexes in stock. The fourth just has pre-owned.

At least according to some threads on Watchuseek, authorized dealers are selling to gray market dealers because they can make more $ than by selling to individual customers. Gray market dealers are then able to sell for a higher than suggested retail price due to the real or perceived shortage.

One thread described an attempted purchase from an authorized dealer, who said they did not have the watch in stock. The buyer went to a gray market dealer and bought the watch - with a warranty card stamped by the same dealer who claimed not to have it in stock.

If the goal is limiting the gray market, they are failing miserably.



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[11B10]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsEIxSHG7Fg



Kevin, I just saw this post and the only thing left out was the fact that you never have to charge it, put batteries in it - a true lazy man's (I confess) watch. Also saw your location and I just drove through there yesterday. I'm a part time driver for a rental company and go all through Pa/Md/NJ quite frequently. Thanks for the video!

[JodyH]

If the goal is limiting the gray market, they are failing miserably.

The goal is to bump the Rolex name up another notch in an attempt to join the "Holy Trinity" Audemars, Vacheron, Patek ("Big 4" if you add Lange) so they can charge "Holy Trinity" prices.
In order to join that club they have to generate exclusivity.
By limiting availability of their most popular lines while maintaining (or actually increasing demand) they are building "cachet" and exclusivity.
I expect their next move to be a cull of their "lower end" watches like the Oyster Perpetual, Air-King, Milgauss, many of the Datejust models etc. and an expansion of the "complication" and "grand complication" watches like the Sky Dweller, Cellini and Day Date "Presidential" line in their catalog.
They'll backfill the missing lower end watches with Tudor versions and then try to drag the Tudor brand name up into the price range of current Rolexes.

BTW: I'm placing a few bets on the above scenario by buying a few of the "basic" Rolexes and Tudors to stash and flip in a few years. For example the Tudor Black Bay Black I have stashed has already almost doubled in the current market frenzy of limited Rolex no-date Submariner availability.

[mtnbkr]

I expect their next move to be a cull of their "lower end" watches like the Oyster Perpetual, Air-King, Milgauss, many of the Datejust models etc.

The only Rolex I have a desire to own is an Oyster Perpetual (stainless steel 36mm or 39mm with Dark Rhodium or Red Grape dial). Unfortunately, I can't justify $6k on a watch.

Chris

[BillSWPA]

The goal is to bump the Rolex name up another notch in an attempt to join the "Holy Trinity" Audemars, Vacheron, Patek ("Big 4" if you add Lange) so they can charge "Holy Trinity" prices.
In order to join that club they have to generate exclusivity.
By limiting availability of their most popular lines while maintaining (or actually increasing demand) they are building "cachet" and exclusivity.
I expect their next move to be a cull of their "lower end" watches like the Oyster Perpetual, Air-King, Milgauss, many of the Datejust models etc. and an expansion of the "complication" and "grand complication" watches like the Sky Dweller, Cellini and Day Date "Presidential" line in their catalog.
They'll backfill the missing lower end watches with Tudor versions and then try to drag the Tudor brand name up into the price range of current Rolexes.

Increasing the appearance of exclusivity may be a goal, but it still makes no sense. Rolex already has far more brand recognition than any of those more expensive, more exclusive brands. Jewelers I know who deal in preowned Rolexes tell me that people insist on Rolex because that is the brand non-watch people will recognize.

If the product is watches, one makes money by selling watches. Their previous price points were such that a person could potentially save up for awhile and buy one. For a very long time, they have sold every watch they made at prices higher than arguably comparable watches. Some of the “exclusive” brands sell at prices higher than I paid for my car or in a few cases even my house. There is a serious limit to the number of watches that can be sold at the really high price points. Rolex had previously hit the point where the watches were priced high enough to be desirable but still obtainable.

So far, smart watches have not made a dent in the luxury watch market, but the danger of that changing is real. Making the product unobtainable doesn’t help.

Complications are neat, but the cost of the service every 5-10 years makes owning them unwise. I wouldn’t buy a mechanical chronograph unless I had a real need for that function.

You may be right about their goal, but if so, I would not predict good things about their future.

Tudor has really been coming out with some nice watches, but their appeal is different from those sold under the Rolex brand.


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[JodyH]

Rolex wants to sell $10k watches for $50k.
Tudor wants to sell $2k watches for $10k.

In the current market they can't do that.
I think they are making deliberate moves towards that long term goal.
Remember that Rolex is a private "charity" with huge cash reserves that answers to no one, hence they can and do think long term.
Weakness in the ultra high end market due to the Chinese market downturn which is hurting the "Holy Trinity" sales along with pressure from LVMH brands like Tag, Hublot and Zenith as well as SWATCH brands like Omega and Blancpain at their current price point makes it a great time for Rolex to try and move upscale and position Tudor to compete directly with Omega and Hublot.

Rolex is very conservative with their designs, that plays well with the ultra high end market.
Tudor is more flexible and willing to take trendy design risks to better compete against Tag, Omega and Hublot.

[Duke]

The only Rolex I have a desire to own is an Oyster Perpetual (stainless steel 36mm or 39mm with Dark Rhodium or Red Grape dial). Unfortunately, I can't justify $6k on a watch.

Chris

The 114300 rhodium is one of my favorite time only Rolex models.

[Duke]

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[Lex Luthier]

A bit of history showed up on Christmas.

1941-44 Leonidas. This is *not* a military issue watch, but this version has been spotted in period photos being worn by Kriegsmarine personnel.
17 jewels, fitted with a new mainspring and crystal. Hands are radium painted.
It is a testament to good engineering; worn silly, yet still capable of +/- 1 minute a day.

Leonidas later became TAG-Heuer.

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[Duke]

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For a bit of color it’s hard to beat the 116400GV Milgauss

[JodyH]

For a bit of color it’s hard to beat the 116400GV Milgauss
I agree completely.
Add in a "new" Air-King and you have the funky full house when it comes to colorful Rolexes.
:cool:
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[Duke]

I agree completely.
Add in a "new" Air-King and you have the funky full house when it comes to colorful Rolexes.
:cool:
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I went the new Mk2 dial explorer 214270 when I saw it next to the air king

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[BillSWPA]

The Milgauss is on the short list of watches I would seriously consider if I were in the market for one now.



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[BillSWPA]

Rolex wants to sell $10k watches for $50k.
Tudor wants to sell $2k watches for $10k.

In the current market they can't do that.
I think they are making deliberate moves towards that long term goal.
Remember that Rolex is a private "charity" with huge cash reserves that answers to no one, hence they can and do think long term.
Weakness in the ultra high end market due to the Chinese market downturn which is hurting the "Holy Trinity" sales along with pressure from LVMH brands like Tag, Hublot and Zenith as well as SWATCH brands like Omega and Blancpain at their current price point makes it a great time for Rolex to try and move upscale and position Tudor to compete directly with Omega and Hublot.

Rolex is very conservative with their designs, that plays well with the ultra high end market.
Tudor is more flexible and willing to take trendy design risks to better compete against Tag, Omega and Hublot.

When they get their prices that high, who will buy them?



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[JodyH]

When they get their prices that high, who will buy them?
The same type of people that were buying $50k+ AP, VC, PP and ALS two years ago.
Two years ago it was the uber-rich Chinese.
I see about a 5-10 year drought and then the next crop of multi-billionaires (probably Indians or Koreans) will come along and start a watch buying frenzy all over again.
That's why I think Rolex is making their move now, $10k+ watch sales are fairly slow and $25k+ sales are stagnant.
They have the cash reserves to wait out the competition and they have the Tudor brand to cultivate at the mid-tier (<$10k) luxury price point which is still seeing some demand right now.

[JodyH]

I went the new Mk2 dial explorer 214270 when I saw it next to the air king

I really liked the look of the updated Explorer, but the Milgauss case, band and heft fit my wrist perfectly.
The Air-King was the perfect addition since it's basically a redialed Milgauss with a more tool like brushed finish.

[perlslacker]

I agree completely.
Add in a "new" Air-King and you have the funky full house when it comes to colorful Rolexes.
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If the Air-King kept the colored seconds hand and text on the dial, but lost the numeral indices on the 5-minute intervals, it would have been perfect. So basically it should have been an Explorer 1 with some pop, though tbh they probably added the 5-minute indices to differentiate it more from the Explorer 1.

PS I'm a picky bitch ignore me. I also think the Day-Date looks like ass because it has a 12 o'clock day and 3 o'clock date.

[fuse]

I just checked four gray market dealer websites. Three had a number of new Rolexes in stock. The fourth just has pre-owned.

At least according to some threads on Watchuseek, authorized dealers are selling to gray market dealers because they can make more $ than by selling to individual customers. Gray market dealers are then able to sell for a higher than suggested retail price due to the real or perceived shortage.

One thread described an attempted purchase from an authorized dealer, who said they did not have the watch in stock. The buyer went to a gray market dealer and bought the watch - with a warranty card stamped by the same dealer who claimed not to have it in stock.

If the goal is limiting the gray market, they are failing miserably.



Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLink to gray market sellers with these in stock? We're talking the steel sports models right? Ie submariner, gmt, Daytona, explorer, air king etc

If an AD sells to a gray market seller... that's pretty weird. Gray market is traditionally a distributor or even the manufacturer that needs for whatever reason to make a bunch of inventory disappear.

Definitely some weird stuff going on with the crown.

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[JodyH]

Link to gray market sellers with these in stock?

DavidSW (https://davidsw.com/)

[BillSWPA]

Link to gray market sellers with these in stock? We're talking the steel sports models right? Ie submariner, gmt, Daytona, explorer, air king etc

If an AD sells to a gray market seller... that's pretty weird. Gray market is traditionally a distributor or even the manufacturer that needs for whatever reason to make a bunch of inventory disappear.

Definitely some weird stuff going on with the crown.

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In addition to DavidSW, both Jomashop and AuthenticWatches had new ones. Ashford had only used.

Watches sold by gray market dealers have always originated from authorized dealers. Traditionally, those authorized dealers were overseas, where the prices for the same watches are sufficiently low that a gray market dealer can buy unsold inventory at a discount, and then sell them here for less than an authorized dealer.

Lately I am seeing gray market dealers selling some watches above the suggested retail price.



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[fuse]

DavidSW (https://davidsw.com/)Seems like these are theoretically preowned? But yeah, people be flippin

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[Duke]

Seems like these are theoretically preowned? But yeah, people be flippin

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Factory stickers or not - everything on the gray market is theoretically used.

If you get a warranty card it’ll have a non existent stranger’s name on it.

This is how ADs who need to recoup cash move things without Rolex SA getting all bunched up about it

[BillSWPA]

Factory stickers or not - everything on the gray market is theoretically used.

If you get a warranty card it’ll have a non existent stranger’s name on it.

This is how ADs who need to recoup cash move things without Rolex SA getting all bunched up about it

Yes and no. It is likely “new” in that no one has worn it. However, the manufacturer will not consider it to be “new” once it leaves the authorized dealer network and its history is no longer known.

In order for a gray market good to avoid trademark infringement; it must be identical in every way to the goods sold by authorized dealers, including the packaging, the warranty, the quality, etc. However, since the product is no longer “new” in the eyes of the manufacturer, the warranty is unlikely to be honored. Therefore, gray market dealers offer their own warranty, which may or may not be administered well when it is actually needed.

My understanding is that DavidSW provides the warranty cards from the authorized dealer, and that Rolex service centers vary in their likelihood of requesting the original purchase receipt.



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[Duke]

Yes and no. It is likely “new” in that no one has worn it. However, the manufacturer will not consider it to be “new” once it leaves the authorized dealer network and its history is no longer known.

In order for a gray market good to avoid trademark infringement; it must be identical in every way to the goods sold by authorized dealers, including the packaging, the warranty, the quality, etc. However, since the product is no longer “new” in the eyes of the manufacturer, the warranty is unlikely to be honored. Therefore, gray market dealers offer their own warranty, which may or may not be administered well when it is actually needed.

My understanding is that DavidSW provides the warranty cards from the authorized dealer, and that Rolex service centers vary in their likelihood of requesting the original purchase receipt.



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I’ve got a good history with Paul Altieri/Bobs watches. Very familiar with the process.

To your point, when looking for an out of production piece (the white dial Milgauss for example) the warranty or card isn’t an issue one way or the other.

That said. If present - it will have someone else’s name on it.

[drjaydvm]

Davidsw is who I bought my gmt from. It still had the stickers on it

[JodyH]

the warranty is unlikely to be honored.
Rolex Service Center Dallas warrantied the repairs on my grey market Tudor Ranger after I dropped it from about 5' onto the steel doorframe of my safe.

[Duke]

Rolex Service Center Dallas warrantied the repairs on my grey market Tudor Ranger after I dropped it from about 5' onto the steel doorframe of my safe.

RSC has 3 of mine right now.

I only dropped one of them. Onto the crown in the bathroom floor because the hollow center link bracelet is old and shitty I wear that one on a nato strap. Pro tip...if you don’t want a $1400 service, tighten your nato strap over the bed.

[BillSWPA]

Rolex Service Center Dallas warrantied the repairs on my grey market Tudor Ranger after I dropped it from about 5' onto the steel doorframe of my safe.

The one in Dallas is reputed to be easier to deal with than the one in NY when seeking warranty service.



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[BillSWPA]

I’ve got a good history with Paul Altieri/Bobs watches. Very familiar with the process.

To your point, when looking for an out of production piece (the white dial Milgauss for example) the warranty or card isn’t an issue one way or the other.

That said. If present - it will have someone else’s name on it.

I have not seen a warranty card with a customer name on it.


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[theJanitor]

My buddy just bought a Batman from DavidSW a few weeks ago

[NEPAKevin]

https://img.memecdn.com/stuned_o_1110169.jpg

[JodyH]

I have not seen a warranty card with a customer name on it.
My DavidSW "smilie face dial" Tudor Black Bay black came with a valid, signed warranty card from "Bhindi Jewelers", purchased by "Rosalvo Ksepka Gomes".
From Linkedin it looks like he's some kind of Brazilian investment dude and PhD student in Boca Raton, FL..
Bhindi is a Indian owned jeweler with four big stores across the US.

[JodyH]

I'm guessing that Rosalvo is a broker between the jewelers and the grey market resellers.
He probably gets a sweet deal from jewelers who have to move inventory to maintain whatever tier of dealership they are and he's probably also a known trustworthy entity to the grey dealers.

[BillSWPA]

My DavidSW "smilie face dial" Tudor Black Bay black came with a valid, signed warranty card from "Bhindi Jewelers", purchased by "Rosalvo Ksepka Gomes".
From Linkedin it looks like he's some kind of Brazilian investment dude and PhD student in Boca Raton, FL..
Bhindi is a Indian owned jeweler with four big stores across the US.

Interesting. The warranty card I received when my watch was returned from its last service just lists the serial number, model number, and date of service. The purchase cards must be different.

[drjaydvm]

My warranty card did not have a name on it

[JodyH]

The only time I go grey market is when I save enough money to pay for a full service in the unlikely even one is needed in what would normally be the warranty period, or if the watch I wanted was not available through any other channels.

I've had good experiences grey market, at authorized US dealers in person and through foreign authorized dealers in countries with favorable exchange rates at the time I purchased.
It pays to shop around and research what you want to buy.
Chrono24 is a good place to track down foreign dealers (I always contact them directly).

[Norville]

Rolex warranty follows the watch, not the owner.

When the original dealer sells it to a gray, or a flipper they swipe the card and the th3 5 years starts ticking on the watch. Name written on the card is meaningless.

[Radar Love]

Just got a new (to me) Vostok Amphibia in the mail from Ukraine. It has a certain Soviet charm:

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[scjbash]

It has a certain Soviet charm:



If it doesn't work you can always hit him with it.

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[Sigfan26]

Picked up a Hamilton AutoChrono “Jack Ryan” yesterday. I really like it! No complaints.
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[GardoneVT]

Picked up a Hamilton AutoChrono “Jack Ryan” yesterday. I really like it! No complaints.
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Sharp. I have the “Jim Greer” watch, a Hamilton X Wind :
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[scjbash]

Luminox ICE-SAR Arctic

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[Duke]

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[JodyH]

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[Duke]

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I rather liked the coaxial movement. The first iteration of the full house 8500 in my 2015 Planet ocean 45.5 was stellar - besides the whole thing almost hockey puck sized.

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[JodyH]

I rather liked the coaxial movement. The first iteration of the full house 8500 in my 2015 Planet ocean 45.5 was stellar - besides the whole thing almost hockey puck sized.
Mine is a reasonably sized 41.5mm Aqua Terra 150M "Spectre".

As to the Co-Axial, it's been a good watch but runs a bit fast for my liking (around +5 s/d).
My biggest issue with it is it's too damn complicated, almost like H&K engineers worked on the project. Why use 2 parts when 5 can do the same job?
Which brings me back to it running a bit fast, getting it adjusted is a royal pain in the ass. With my Rolexes or any of my ETA or ETA clones, either I can adjust them or have a local watchmaker adjust them in just a few minutes.
With the co-axial Omega it's a month long process involving shipping.

[Duke]

Mine was famously accurate from day one

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[JodyH]

A couple of my more obscure pimp watches:
Cuervo Y Sobrinos Historiador Vuelo and a Ulysse Nardin

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[Duke]

As long as were ramping it up

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[JodyH]

I tried to like the Calatrava I tried on.
I felt like a Swiss banker.

With the Cuervo I feel like a Caribbean pimp.
With the Ulysse I can embrace my inner Russian mobster.
I just need a Guayabera shirt and an Adidas track suit to finish out my ensembles.

[JodyH]

Was wearing my ultra low profile "luxury" watch today.
You gotta be a real G-Shock nerd to recognize this model from any distance.

old picture
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[JR1572]

Was wearing my ultra low profile "luxury" watch today.
You gotta be a real G-Shock nerd to recognize this model from any distance.

old picture
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Jealous.

Here’s mine that’s similar.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190121/d1b5f9ce747f5473c62eaa2aef9ddcae.jpg

[JodyH]

My first real watch was a Casio G-Shock DW-5000C way back in 1984 (I was 14) and I beat the snot out of that watch all through high school then lost it somewhere in the college shuffle.
The GW-5000-1JF scratched that nostalgic itch perfectly (with a few upgrades like solar/atomic).

[perlslacker]

Repostin' from a few pages ago:

https://i.imgur.com/hlk74mvl.jpg

I got tired of the NATO strap adapter a couple days ago and tried to put the stock strap back on it. I'd tried before and couldn't get it seated right. I thought I got it, but it popped off yesterday in the car. Now my spring bar is somewhere in my car and I'm trying to figure out what to do next.

If anyone has any tips on getting the braceletstrap back on, I'm all ears.

e: OK I found one of the original springbars and managed to get it in there well enough that I was wrenching on the strap pretty hard and it didn't give.

I think the key was to push the bar into place rather than trying to let it just pop in there.

[JodyH]

Just arrived today all the way from Tokyo Japan.
Any guesses?

pic of the inner box lid
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owners manual (all in Japanese of course)
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[NEPAKevin]

Mudmaster?

[JodyH]

Casio GWG-1000-1A3JF "Mudmaster" G-Shock
Triple sensor, atomic 6-band, solar.

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[scjbash]

How's that Mudmaster model in low light/darkness? The only thing I don't like about my 1000-1A5 is that the lume and light both suck. It's a couple years old though so I'm wondering if they've upgraded either since then.

[JodyH]

How's that Mudmaster model in low light/darkness? The only thing I don't like about my 1000-1A5 is that the lume and light both suck. It's a couple years old though so I'm wondering if they've upgraded either since then.
It has a single bright white LED at 6 o'clock that lights the dial up very well, I currently have it set for 3 seconds of illumination.
The lume is bright after coming in from the sunlight, but I haven't "charged" it and then tried reading it in the dark a few hours later yet.

[JodyH]

I've been on a "Japanese market" G-Shock buying kick lately.
It's a sickness, but it's a lot cheaper than some of my other watch buying frenzies.

:cool:

[scjbash]

I was a couple months away from buying an Oris Aquis Date but ended up with a G45 and the Luminox I posted recently. Back to squirreling away for the Oris.

I've been wearing the Luminox a lot lately, especially during times when I would normally wear the G-Shock. It's absurdly comfortable and I'm becoming spoiled by the tritium markers.

[Odin Bravo One]

During my recent work trip to Grand Cayman, I fell in love with the understated Bremont Solo. A very beautiful and practical piece for those interested in a luxury watch at a reasonable price point.

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[TheRoland]

During my recent work trip to Grand Cayman, I fell in love with the understated Bremont Solo. A very beautiful and practical piece for those interested in a luxury watch at a reasonable price point.

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There are a good number of understated pilot/fleiger watches at around that price point (most notably IWC). IMHO the Solo is nicest. Great choice.

[JodyH]

I really had a thing for the Bremont Super Marine black dial, mint green accents.
Really good looking watch but it just did not fit my wrist so I passed on it.

[Odin Bravo One]

I really had a thing for the Bremont Super Marine black dial, mint green accents.
Really good looking watch but it just did not fit my wrist so I passed on it.

With the stack of dive watches already in the winders, the Super Marine got only cursory consideration. But I had to pass on the U2-51/Jet for the same reason: just didn’t fit the wrist properly.

[LtDave]

So I just picked up this:
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[HeavyDuty]

Looking for ideas here...

Now that I’m dating again, I occasionally wear dress shirts that don’t play nice with my usual Seiko Monster or other automatic. I have a couple old Citizen Stilettos (all but one need servicing) that work for dress, but I think I’d like something new just because.

Can anyone think of a current production very thin square or rectangular stainless cased sapphire crystal quartz watch similar to a Stiletto that doesn’t break the bank? I’m not coming up with anything, so I may try having one of my Stilettos overhauled and restrap it with leather and a deployant buckle.

Not my pic, but this is a Stiletto:

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[JodyH]

Looking for ideas here...

Now that I’m dating again, I occasionally wear dress shirts that don’t play nice with my usual Seiko Monster or other automatic. I have a couple old Citizen Stilettos (all but one need servicing) that work for dress, but I think I’d like something new just because.

Can anyone think of a current production very thin square or rectangular stainless cased sapphire crystal quartz watch similar to a Stiletto that doesn’t break the bank? I’m not coming up with anything, so I may try having one of my Stilettos overhauled and restrap it with leather and a deployant buckle.

Not my pic, but this is a Stiletto:

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A couple options.
Tonneau case/shape is a good filter when searching.
Seiko (https://www.jomashop.com/seiko-watch-sup880.html)
Frederique Constant (https://www.jomashop.com/watches-for-men.html?case_shape=Rectangle%2CTonneau&manufacturer=Frederique+Constant)

[HeavyDuty]

A couple options.
Tonneau case/shape is a good filter when searching.
Seiko (https://www.jomashop.com/seiko-watch-sup880.html)
Frederique Constant (https://www.jomashop.com/watches-for-men.html?case_shape=Rectangle%2CTonneau&manufacturer=Frederique+Constant)

Great leads - thanks! I’m going to chase down that series of Seiko, that’s very close to what I have in mind.

[perlslacker]

During my recent work trip to Grand Cayman, I fell in love with the understated Bremont Solo. A very beautiful and practical piece for those interested in a luxury watch at a reasonable price point.

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This reminded me of a picture from my honeymoon:

https://i.imgur.com/JK4UQY9l.jpg

Got to take my Vostok to the communist motherland in Cuba!

[Jim Watson]

While I have a few heavy stainless and gold watches, they usually get out only on Ceremonial Occasions.

My daily wear is a Marathon "general purpose quartz" in "fibershell case" that weighs very little.
The problem is, it quit running one day last week. I twiddled the stem and when set to the correct time, it started right back up. Battery is pretty fresh. That is OK for now, but my confidence was damaged. This is my third Marathon; no 1 was a gift, no 2 was a sentimental replacement after no 1 was destroyed in the fire of The Incident, no 3 is a warranty replacement after no 2 died a month short of the guarantee. So I am not much inclined to repeat the experiment if this one goes out entirely.

But what is the alternative? Timex? I have one of those, too. It keeps time which is about all I really need short of a dinner party.

[JodyH]

But what is the alternative? Timex?
Casio G-Shock (https://www.gshock.com/watches/men) available in a ridiculous number of variations.

[Jim Watson]

Most look bulky if not heavy.

I found an ad for a Victorinox watch that suits.

[RoyGBiv]

.

But what is the alternative? Timex? I have one of those, too. It keeps time which is about all I really need short of a dinner party.
I'm still loving my seiko (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I1KW2FW/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) solar.

[RJ]

I'm still loving my seiko (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I1KW2FW/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) solar.

I wore a slim Seiko on a leather band for many years in my younger days. It was bulletproof.

[SPG]

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I have to try this
Resco Gen 1 Patriot
H-D 2010 FLHTP
Sig 229R 40 on hip

[RoyGBiv]

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I have to try this
Resco Gen 1 Patriot
H-D 2010 FLHTP
Sig 229R 40 on hip
Screw the watch, what gloves are those? :cool:

[HeavyDuty]

A couple options.
Tonneau case/shape is a good filter when searching.
Seiko (https://www.jomashop.com/seiko-watch-sup880.html)
Frederique Constant (https://www.jomashop.com/watches-for-men.html?case_shape=Rectangle%2CTonneau&manufacturer=Frederique+Constant)

I ended up ordering that Seiko from Amazon - thanks again for the lead!

[perlslacker]

Most look bulky if not heavy.

I found an ad for a Victorinox watch that suits.

w/ g-shocks, stick with the 5000 series (https://www.g-central.com/japan-only-g-shock-5000-series-watches-to-consider/). everything else is huge and gaudy.

e: I just realized that the article is all about JDM-only watches; there are many 5000-series G-Shocks sold in the US. I'm partial to my GWM5610.

[HeavyDuty]

Looking for ideas here...

Now that I’m dating again, I occasionally wear dress shirts that don’t play nice with my usual Seiko Monster or other automatic. I have a couple old Citizen Stilettos (all but one need servicing) that work for dress, but I think I’d like something new just because.

Can anyone think of a current production very thin square or rectangular stainless cased sapphire crystal quartz watch similar to a Stiletto that doesn’t break the bank? I’m not coming up with anything, so I may try having one of my Stilettos overhauled and restrap it with leather and a deployant buckle.

Not my pic, but this is a Stiletto:

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I ended up restrapping one of my beater Stilettos complete with a deployant buckle, not a bad thing since the strap and buckle was all of $15 from der Bezos. Now I need to clean up the case a little.
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[SPG]

Screw the watch, what gloves are those? :cool:

Those are Vanson Leather. Great stuff
I have large fat mitts so mine are custom
They are made in Fall River Ma. Great folk to deal with, not inexpensive

[theJanitor]

Not mine, but a good buddy just snagged this and I stole it for a few minutes. I've wanted one of these forever

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7836/46570406064_48a01eff7b_b.jpg

[Colt191145lover]

My new Bulova Lunar Pilot, on a Blu Shark Kwik Change "Bond" strap



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[Up1911Fan]

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[theJanitor]

Early morning coffee before the MRI. Not my first choice in coffee, but if I don’t get any, they certainly will find something wrong in my brain

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190330/a41c388845a0b537fb57de5bdd8297cb.jpg


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[RoyGBiv]

Early morning coffee before the MRI. Not my first choice in coffee, but if I don’t get any, they certainly will find something wrong in my brain

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Nice watch! Good luck with the testing. Hopefully they find your brain...;)..... with nothing missing and nothing extra.

[theJanitor]

Thanks. Well it was a waste of a Saturday morning. They aborted the scan cause they don’t know about the buckles holding both of my retinas intact. Guess it doesn’t matter that my eye surgery was performed in this same hospital.

And I guess I shouldn’t have prepaid my portion of the scan cost




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[RoyGBiv]

Thanks. Well it was a waste of a Saturday morning. They aborted the scan cause they don’t know about the buckles holding both of my retinas intact. Guess it doesn’t matter that my eye surgery was performed in this same hospital.

And I guess I shouldn’t have prepaid my portion of the scan cost


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Never prepay for a "service". Poop occurs. BTDT.

Healthy vibes sent your way.

[Up1911Fan]

Picked this up today. I've been wanting this piece for awhile and finally decided to get it.
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[98z28]

I have somehow overlooked MIDO in my watch obsession. They don't seem to be popular in the US, but they make great watches at a decent price point. The Oceanstar M026.430.11.051.00 (https://www.midowatches.com/usa/swiss-watches-collections/sport-watch-ocean-star/ocean-star-m0264301105100)in particular caught my as as potential "one watch" solution. Not that I would want to go down to one watch, but I like to simplify things when I travel, which is a lot, and I haven't found the "one watch" I can take that will be appropriate from the beach to boardroom meetings.

The specs are solid and they make this version with a really cool blue textured dial (https://www.midowatches.com/usa/swiss-watches-collections/sport-watch-ocean-star/ocean-star-m0264301104100) and gray titanium with orange accents (https://www.midowatches.com/usa/swiss-watches-collections/sport-watch-ocean-star/ocean-star-m0264304406100) if you find black too boring:


Material: Stainless steel
Diameter: 42.50 mm
Between lugs: 22.00 mm
Water-resistance: 20 bar (200 m / 660 ft)
Crystal: Sapphire crystal with double sided anti-reflection treatment
Case height: 11.75 mm
Automatic Mido Caliber 80 (base ETA C07.621) with 80-hour power reserve
Hour Markers: Applied indexes


MSRP is a little over $900, and gray market is under $600 for the steel versions (https://www.jomashop.com/mido-ocean-star-watches.html).

I came across the watch a wile back, but I think the style of the hands kept me from trying it out. They look odd enough in pictures to be off-putting, but I find they are just different enough in person to be interesting. The applied indices and hands play with the light and give the watch a dressier feel in person that doesn't quite come across in pictures. It's dressy enough that it doesn't look too out of place with a suit and it's thin enough to get under a dress cuff (if you are someone who can stomach wearing a dive watch with a suit). The aluminum bezel tones down the bling so that it also looks fine in jeans and a t-shirt.

The two features that pushed me over the edge to order the watch were the day/date complication (I really like having the day at a glance when travelling) and the adjustable clasp. We have constantly fluctuating temperatures with high humidity in south Mississippi. My wrist swells and shrinks throughout the day and having an easily adjustable clasp is a very nice feature. MIDO executed this one well (check out the pictures below).

I have only three nits to pick with this watch:


I'd like to see it in a smaller size. 38-40mm would be great for my girly 7" wrists, but it works well enough at 42mm.
It has anti-reflective coating on the inside and outside of the crystal. I will inevitably put scuffs in the outer AR, but I've knocked against a couple door jams and don't have any scuffs yet. I would prefer AR coating in the inside of the crystal only.
The bezel index is rectangle instead of the traditional triangle. It doesn't stand out as well at a glance when you are using the bezel to time something. I've gotten used to looking for the rectangle, but it still isn't a legible as I would like.


https://i.imgur.com/eSIzUVh.jpg



Adjustable clasp all the way in:
http://i.imgur.com/zmink1l.jpg (https://imgur.com/zmink1l)



Clasp partially extended (you press the two smaller triggers on the right and the clasp extends about 1mm at a time, up to about 10mm):
http://i.imgur.com/H8iNeAy.jpg (https://imgur.com/H8iNeAy)



Trying to ctach the way to light plays with the hands and indices (and not doing it very well):
http://i.imgur.com/0XBVrrL.jpg (https://imgur.com/0XBVrrL)

http://i.imgur.com/0Arp7ZE.jpg (https://imgur.com/0Arp7ZE)


It isn't anything mind blowing, but it is a decent all around watch that somehow didn't make it on to my radar for quite some time. That's a shame. It's a really decent watch at a decent price. It's been running about -4 seconds per day and it will sit in the watch box all weekend and still be running on Monday. I haven't let it sit for a full 80 hours to see if that's a real number, but the power reserve is certainly better than the typical ETA/Sellita movements.

[bofe954]

Specs for that watch are great for the money. I wonder if the jomashop link is last years or something. New one on the website gains the COSC cert and doesn't have the skeletal hands. Seems to be more like $1500 and less colors offered.

[vcdgrips]

That Mido is a feature packed watch in the sub 1000 space for sure. 80 hr power reserve is what really knocks it over the top relative to most swiss powered divers and their 40ish hr power reserve in the same sub 1k realm.

[scjbash]

gray titanium with orange accents


Yet another watch that will interrupt me saving for an Oris Aquis Date. I could do without the day cluttering up the dial but I still really, really like it.

[ssb]

Just picked up an Alpina Alpiner in blue, hopefully it'll be here this week. It's my first watch in almost three years. I'm currently wearing a TAG Heuer Carerra, wanted a less expensive beater watch and also something with a band instead of a bracelet.

I'm thinking about a Mido or an Oris this summer, though. The Oceanstar got a hard look from me this go around, but I really like the look of the Big Crown and Pro Pilots from Oris as well.

[Up1911Fan]

Yet another watch that will interrupt me saving for an Oris Aquis Date. I could do without the day cluttering up the dial but I still really, really like it.

The Aquis is pretty nice, I've had a few of them. Really solid watches.

[scjbash]

The Aquis is pretty nice, I've had a few of them. Really solid watches.

I'd be buying one right about now had a Luminox ICE-SAR and a G45 not got in the way.

[Up1911Fan]

I'd be buying one right about now had a Luminox ICE-SAR and a G45 not got in the way.

I feel ya, I'm thinking hard about a G45.

[98z28]

Specs for that watch are great for the money. I wonder if the jomashop link is last years or something. New one on the website gains the COSC cert and doesn't have the skeletal hands. Seems to be more like $1500 and less colors offered.

MIDO doesn't do us any favors by calling several models "Ocean Star".

The more expensive COSC-spec version is the "Ocean Star Diver 600", model number M026.608.11.041.00 for the blue version (https://www.midowatches.com/usa/swiss-watches-collections/sport-watch-ocean-star/ocean-star-diver-600-m0266081104100). You can have it in any color you want, as long as it's blue or black. I'm not seeing this model on Jomashop's site yet (it was announced at the end of 2018, I think).

The less expensive and smaller version is just called "Ocean Star" on MIDO's website, and "Ocean Star Captain" on Jomashop's site (model number M026.430.11.051.00 for the black version (https://www.midowatches.com/usa/swiss-watches-collections/sport-watch-ocean-star/ocean-star-m0264301105100)).

[mtnbkr]

FWIW, Amazon has Invicta 9094OBs (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HLVH1GW) and 8926OBs (https://www.amazon.com/Invicta-8926OB-Stainless-Automatic-Bracelet/dp/B000JQFX1G/) on sale today for $54 and $59 respectively. I picked up a 9094 because why not? Both have Seiko movements and are moddable much like Seikos. I may put mine on a hefty canvas strap, replace the mineral cyclops crystal with a domed sapphire, and replace the second hand with something colored for a bit of contrast. If I get froggy, I'll try my hand at metal-working and remove the billboard from the side as well as the crown protectors, and give it a matte finish.

Chris

[YVK]

Check out the second hand design on mine

https://i.imgur.com/7uCH8wj.jpg?1

I posted this watch in this thread four years ago when I first got it. Since then it had to go back to Seiko (who kept it for a month) within a year because the GMT hand wasn't working, and local jewelry shop had to reassemble the bracelet twice. I don't remember dropping it, and I stopped wearing it when I shoot awhile ago (out of personal preference, not any specific concern). I don't even swim in it any longer. Can't say that I am impressed, or even interested in having it fixed.

[YVK]

A replacement, with obligatory gat and blade

https://i.imgur.com/rKaKwfR.jpg?1

[Duke]

I’m sure I’m going to take heat for this but has to be said.


If you want a planet ocean or a submariner then you should visit an Omega or Rolex dealer.


The no name disposable look a likes are well.....disposable look alikes.



Not trying to be rude.

[mtnbkr]

I’m sure I’m going to take heat for this but has to be said.


If you want a planet ocean or a submariner then you should visit an Omega or Rolex dealer.


The no name disposable look a likes are well.....disposable look alikes.



Not trying to be rude.

It's a silly statement and smacks of internet edgelord. Even the nice "homages" (or copies if you wish) are mostly sub-$1k while a basic steel Submariner is $7500 (not to mention the wait list I understand is fairly common these days). Nobody is buying a $500 watch because they're too "cheap" to step up to a $7500 watch. Your argument might make sense if the price differential was significantly narrower.

Personally, I'm not enough of a fan of the submariner design to spend even $500 on one (not a diver and I have narrow wrists). I bought an Invicta 9094 for the mod-ability, not because it's a particularly fine timepiece. In the words of Rob_S, I like to fiddlefuck with things (guns, cars, watches, bikes, computers, my kids' emotions, etc). :)

Chris

[mtnbkr]

Check out the second hand design on mine

I posted this watch in this thread four years ago when I first got it. Since then it had to go back to Seiko (who kept it for a month) within a year because the GMT hand wasn't working, and local jewelry shop had to reassemble the bracelet twice. I don't remember dropping it, and I stopped wearing it when I shoot awhile ago (out of personal preference, not any specific concern). I don't even swim in it any longer. Can't say that I am impressed, or even interested in having it fixed.

That's crazy. I had an Orange Monster for nearly 15 years that didn't have any problems with shooting, swimming, mountain biking, hunting, weight lifting, etc. I never took it off except to sleep and shower. I sold it last year because it looked ridiculous on my now skinny wrists (I lost 45lbs between the time I bought and sold it). It had developed an issue in the last year where it would randomly stop during the day, but that was likely a maintenance issue as it kept accurate time otherwise. Had I known the movement was so cheap and easy to replace, I might have gone that route, but instead sold it on eBay, with full disclosure, for what I originally paid. Apparently they're quite desirable. I replaced it with an SKX009, which wears smaller on my wrist with a canvas strap, and an SNK805 I heavily modded. I got both of those for what the OM netted on eBay. :D The SNK805 will be getting an NH36 movement soon, which will give me hand-winding and hacking.

Chris

[GardoneVT]

I’m sure I’m going to take heat for this but has to be said.


If you want a planet ocean or a submariner then you should visit an Omega or Rolex dealer.


The no name disposable look a likes are well.....disposable look alikes.



Not trying to be rude.

There are shades of grey to your point. Take Steinhart- they make blatant copies of the Submariner and are definitely “look alike” if not exactly disposable. They also make the Ocean One Vintage, which is an homage of a limited issue Royal Navy Rolex worth $100k. It’s still a look alike, but there’s no going to a dealer to buy one of those- and what sensible person would wear a $100k wristwatch anyways?

[Duke]

Steinhart and other homages are pieces of shit.

There’s no gray in that statement. Homage watches are the Taurus/hi point of the watch industry. No one who’s serious will take them seriously.


The “sensible person” is subjective point that means nothing when compared across a range of people.


As an aside I sold off some of my collection lately and doubled my money on a few pieces. That will not happen with generic pieces.

Again I’m not trying to be rude.


Nothing wrong with a basic watch.