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Tamara
02-06-2013, 11:31 AM
I was looking at Brownells today to buy some other stuff and checked their ammo situation while I was there. Bleak, of course.

They were all out of WWB handgun ammo in every chambering you could think of... except 9x23Win. They had plenty of that. Hmmm...

Yes, I did go and see if they had any 9x23 ramped Commander barrels in stock. No joy. :o

JV_
02-06-2013, 11:36 AM
I took a different path, many months ago. Triumph of the hoarder ....

Kyle Reese
02-06-2013, 11:54 AM
I have plenty of 8x56R ammo for my Stutzen. Things will have to get awfully grim ammo wise for me to bring that thing out of retirement.:o

JV_
02-06-2013, 11:57 AM
Stutzen.Straight pull bolt?

Kyle Reese
02-06-2013, 12:00 PM
Straight pull bolt?

Yes sir.

Tamara
02-06-2013, 12:22 PM
I have plenty of 8x56R ammo for my Stutzen. Things will have to get awfully grim ammo wise for me to bring that thing out of retirement.:o

Yup. Then again, things have to be pretty grim, ammo wise, to get me to shoot anything corrosive these days. I remember when I thought cleaning guns was fun...

Kyle Reese
02-06-2013, 12:26 PM
Yup. Then again, things have to be pretty grim, ammo wise, to get me to shoot anything corrosive these days. I remember when I thought cleaning guns was fun...

Ballistol FTW :cool:

orionz06
02-06-2013, 12:27 PM
But you can't drink it therefore is is a terrible lube and cleaner.

BigT
02-06-2013, 12:35 PM
But you can't drink it therefore is is a terrible lube and cleaner.

I dont know about over there but here the healing powers of drinking Ballistol take on religious levels

Al T.
02-06-2013, 07:39 PM
I picked up a used G22 simply to be able to run a .357Sig barrel. Last time I checked, still quantities of that around.

Kyle Reese
02-06-2013, 08:17 PM
I picked up a used G22 simply to be able to run a .357Sig barrel. Last time I checked, still quantities of that around.

As of last Friday, a LGS had at least 30 boxes of Prvi Partisan 10mm Auto on the shelves, and an ample supply of Prvi .45 ACP FMJ. Very little else in the way of handgun ammo.

Tamara
02-06-2013, 08:48 PM
I picked up a used G22 simply to be able to run a .357Sig barrel. Last time I checked, still quantities of that around.

This is some kind of punishment for turning my back on .40 cal lo these many years ago. :o

As long as the pipeline is flowing again by midsummer, I should be okay, but if things stay dry longer than that, I'm going to need to break into the reloading components stash or something.

Fortunately, I have a few thousand rounds of .32 ACP and .32 S&W Long set back for if things really get grim...

fuse
02-06-2013, 11:06 PM
When I upgraded my dillon 550 to a 650 around a year or so ago, I did not get around to selling the 550, until a couple weeks ago.

Posted it on va gun trader around 2AM, was spoken for 20 minutes later.

Madness.

JV_
02-07-2013, 05:39 AM
Posted it on va gun trader around 2AM, was spoken for 20 minutes later. I would have bought it, faster than that!

BLR
02-07-2013, 07:19 AM
I was looking at Brownells today to buy some other stuff and checked their ammo situation while I was there. Bleak, of course.

They were all out of WWB handgun ammo in every chambering you could think of... except 9x23Win. They had plenty of that. Hmmm...

Yes, I did go and see if they had any 9x23 ramped Commander barrels in stock. No joy. :o

I do love the 9x23. I have several, and was told by SACS my 9mm/9x23 combo "Railed Pro" just got back from Birdsong. Cannot wait!

I figure I buy less than a couple hundred rounds of factory stuff every year. It just costs way to much. Especially for the more fun calibers like the 9x23 and 10mm.

1986s4
02-07-2013, 08:24 AM
I went to Academy to check on ammo. No .22 rim-fire, plenty of .17HMR. Maybe time for a .17 rifle? No handgun, fortunately I reload. I wanted 5.56 but of course there was none of that. I did walk away with some .303 British! The old warhorse can still shoot.

fuse
02-07-2013, 10:17 AM
I would have bought it, faster than that!

Sold it with the caliber conversion for 9mm, which wouldn't have been much use to you, what with your Camdex-lite.

ST911
02-07-2013, 10:28 AM
7.62x54, 10mm, 357 SIG, 9x23, 25 auto, 44 mag, 327 Federal all seem to be staying on the shelves pretty consistently. I've never really understood why the 327 existed. Perhaps this is why. I have 40 barrels in my 357SIGs. If things were more desperate and for a sustained period, the 357 could possibly be useful.

David Armstrong
02-07-2013, 01:47 PM
In an homage to a past life I have a .303 SMLE and a 38/200 Webley revolver, both with a bit of ammo laid in reserve. Goes well with my .30 Luger.:cool:

Kyle Reese
02-07-2013, 02:41 PM
In an homage to a past life I have a .303 SMLE and a 38/200 Webley revolver, both with a bit of ammo laid in reserve. Goes well with my .30 Luger.:cool:

You're prepared in case the Jerries charge your position! :)

Tamara
02-07-2013, 07:21 PM
Hell, even if I run my 5.56 supplies dry, I could live through the zombie apocalypse on 7.62x54R, 8mm Mauser, and 8x56R alone... :D

ST911
02-07-2013, 07:55 PM
Interestingly, 7.62x39 is hanging in there as well. I would've thought it otherwise given the popularity of the SKS and AK.

TGS
02-07-2013, 07:58 PM
I'd need another 480 round battle pack of 7.5 Swiss before I called my stocks of such apocalypse worthy.....but yeah, weird calibers rock. :cool: I only have 4 stripper clips for my Swiss rifles, though. Need more.

I find it amazing that even .22 and 12ga (to a lesser extent) are victim to the arms race.

Kyle Reese
02-07-2013, 08:42 PM
I'd need another 480 round battle pack of 7.5 Swiss before I called my stocks of such apocalypse worthy.....but yeah, weird calibers rock. :cool: I only have 4 stripper clips for my Swiss rifles, though. Need more.

I find it amazing that even .22 and 12ga (to a lesser extent) are victim to the arms race.

I forgot I had an Ithaca Model 37 in 16 Gauge, and about 2000 rounds of birdshot for it.

Tamara
02-08-2013, 06:46 AM
There was plenty of Prvi fodder for Lebels and Carcanos at the last gun show, but I was already good on that. I need a reliable source for 7.62x45, though...

Kyle Reese
02-08-2013, 07:00 AM
There was plenty of Prvi fodder for Lebels and Carcanos at the last gun show, but I was already good on that. I need a reliable source for 7.62x45, though...

Neat guns. :D

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Tamara
02-08-2013, 07:42 AM
Neat guns. :D

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I was lucky enough to score one in great shape (http://cosmolineandrust.blogspot.com/2007/07/vz-52-rifle-handy-hybrid.html), too. Most of the ones I've seen have that nasty bed-liner paint smeared all over their stocks. You know, the same bed-liner paint used on the pickup truck they towed the guns behind before shipping them to the wholesaler. Only reliable source I've found for new loaded ammo is Buffalo Arms.

saltydog452
02-09-2013, 01:35 PM
My fallback ammunition is a couple of cans of AP corrosive Garand fodder. Supposedly it has magical properties that change 'cover' into 'concealment'.

.22rf is a lot more funner tho'. Speaking of which, CMP did (does?) sell .22rf. Has anyone ordered any lately?

salty

LHS
02-10-2013, 05:13 PM
I was lucky enough to score one in great shape (http://cosmolineandrust.blogspot.com/2007/07/vz-52-rifle-handy-hybrid.html), too. Most of the ones I've seen have that nasty bed-liner paint smeared all over their stocks. You know, the same bed-liner paint used on the pickup truck they towed the guns behind before shipping them to the wholesaler. Only reliable source I've found for new loaded ammo is Buffalo Arms.

I saw one of these sitting propped up in a corner of Legendary Guns in Phoenix about a year ago. The proprietor seemed surprised that I knew what it was. I thought was a neat little rifle, but had no interest in buying it due to the lack of readily available ammo. I wonder if it's still there?

abu fitna
02-10-2013, 07:32 PM
Interestingly, 7.62x39 is hanging in there as well. I would've thought it otherwise given the popularity of the SKS and AK.

Imports are still flowing in. Still vulnerable to ban, but let us hope it does not come to that.

Would be happier to see a few hundred more 40' shipping containers very soon, though.

Kyle Reese
02-10-2013, 07:38 PM
Imports are still flowing in. Still vulnerable to ban, but let us hope it does not come to that.

Would be happier to see a few hundred more 40' shipping containers very soon, though.

From your keyboard to God's ears.

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LHS
02-10-2013, 09:23 PM
I hit up the Bass Pro store today to cash in my NRA gift card. The ammo situation was pretty bleak. They had a pallet of 12-gauge birdshot for a reasonable price ($65/250rds), but all the more common calibers were completely gone. No 9mm, no .40, no .357 Mag, no .22LR, one box of .45 JHP, one box of .357 Sig, one box of .38sp FMJ, three boxes of UMC .44 Mag (the lightweight 180gr JSP). The only stuff they had in any quantity was .327 Federal, .38 Super +p, .380 ACP and .41 Magnum. No magazines for anything that anybody actually uses, save for one lonely Ruger LC9 mag and a Beretta Nano mag. The pistol shelves were mostly single-action revolvers and high-end (for Bass Pro) 1911s, with a couple .22 autos sitting next to a handful of 9mm and .45 autos of various makes/models. As I was walking out of the gun section, I saw the employees wheel up a shopping cart with a dozen ARs and start stocking the shelves with them. Mostly DPMS, a couple that looked like maybe S&W, it was hard to tell from a distance. The DPMS guns were listed @ $750 up to about $1K.

Skaaphaas
02-11-2013, 06:26 AM
I dont know about over there but here the healing powers of drinking Ballistol take on religious levels
You are, I assume, referring to me?

LHS
02-13-2013, 07:03 PM
When an old friend told me he'd bought a pair of .38 Super 1911s and rebarrelled them to 7.62x25mm Tokarev, I thought he was nuts. Now I'm starting to wonder if he was on to something, what with having about 50k rounds of surplus commie ball in his basement that he acquired for stupidly cheap prices.

JAD
02-13-2013, 08:45 PM
How does he get it to feed through the mags? I thought tok was too long.

TGS
02-14-2013, 11:58 AM
When an old friend told me he'd bought a pair of .38 Super 1911s and rebarrelled them to 7.62x25mm Tokarev, I thought he was nuts. Now I'm starting to wonder if he was on to something, what with having about 50k rounds of surplus commie ball in his basement that he acquired for stupidly cheap prices.

I wouldn't feel too positive for him.

Most of the 7.62 Tok surplus that has come through America in the past decade has a high occurrence of not just duds, but cracked cases, corrosion and so on.

Al T.
02-14-2013, 12:04 PM
a couple of cans of AP corrosive Garand fodder

Black tip is some awesome ammo. Charles Askins liked it for his plinking expeditions.

M2 versus armor plate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkVMSj6scxE

LHS
02-14-2013, 12:21 PM
I wouldn't feel too positive for him.

Most of the 7.62 Tok surplus that has come through America in the past decade has a high occurrence of not just duds, but cracked cases, corrosion and so on.

True, but at $60/case, even if only one in three rounds is good, it's still cheaper than 9mm. I wouldn't use it in a class, but for the everyday plinking he prefers, it works fine.

Rich
02-22-2013, 02:14 PM
The selves are kinda bare around here.

There was some 410 shotgun shells and a few boxes of winchester PDX1 45LC

Maybe the S&W Gov. would be a good revolver to have around after all.

No 9mm,40S&W,45acp or 223rem/5.56mm

LHS
03-18-2013, 02:54 AM
Yup. Then again, things have to be pretty grim, ammo wise, to get me to shoot anything corrosive these days. I remember when I thought cleaning guns was fun...

I've got a spam can of Russkie surplus 5.45mm in my closet that I refer to as my "zombie stash", because that's about the only way I'll deal with cleaning corrosive ammo.

TGS
03-18-2013, 07:37 PM
I've got a spam can of Russkie surplus 5.45mm in my closet that I refer to as my "zombie stash", because that's about the only way I'll deal with cleaning corrosive ammo.

Steaming, hot soapy water. Easy and effective.