Blueguns' Notice: Glock restricts the sale of Glock Blueguns to the Public

[Wendell]

NOTICE

GLOCKS ARE BACK!
Glock has recently issued a New Contract with Ring's Manufacturing Inc. (BLUEGUNS) to manufacture Glock Blueguns as we have been doing for the past 10 years. This new contract states that Glock restricts the sale of Glock Blueguns to the Public. We are restricted to selling Glock Blueguns to the Police, Military, Trainers, Police Distributors, or Holster Manufacturers. We ask that our customers abide by these rules and refrain from offering Glock Blueguns to the Public on the Internet, Publications or General Catalogs. We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your support.

<http://www.blueguns.com/default.asp>

Et tu Glock?

[MikeyC]

Glock has some sort of weird patent lock down going on here. They don't allow Glock airsoft replicas to be sold here in the US either.

[F-Trooper05]

Some dude told me this last night and I thought it was BS. Mind = Blown.

[JV_]

Blackhawk demo guns are also available:
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Demo-Gun,1143,1382.htm

[helothar]

Blackhawk demo guns are also available:
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Demo-Gun,1143,1382.htm

no g19 though :(

[JV_]

no g19 though :(

ASP makes those:
http://www.galls.com/style.html?assort=general_catalog&style=TN016

[SecondsCount]

Why the restriction?

[Tamara]

Why the restriction?

Austrians get butthurt easily? I don't know.

Whatever, it is a strong contender for the gheyest overreaction I have ever seen in the industry, and that's going some...

[BLR]

Austrians get butthurt easily? I don't know.

Whatever, it is a strong contender for the gheyest overreaction I have ever seen in the industry, and that's going some...

My initial thought was "traitors!"

My current thought is "why???"

How many police glocks are sold to every private one?

Isn't this the same type of stuff that hurt S&W?

[Tamara]

Isn't this the same type of stuff that hurt S&W?

Well, it is, at least in the same sense that a guppy and a whale shark are both fish. ;)

Tompkins PLC trampled Glock in their haste to get to the negotiating table back then and probably saved Glock from the same ignominious fate. (I'll note that, in the present crisis, both Smith (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_787655_-1_757992_757992_image) and Ruger (http://ruger.com/micros/advocacy/) have "Contact Your Legislators" webpages. It's good to see hard lessons well-learned. :) )

[BLR]

Well, it is, at least in the same sense that a guppy and a whale shark are both fish. ;)

Tompkins PLC trampled Glock in their haste to get to the negotiating table back then and probably saved Glock from the same ignominious fate. (I'll note that, in the present crisis, both Smith (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_787655_-1_757992_757992_image) and Ruger (http://ruger.com/micros/advocacy/) have "Contact Your Legislators" webpages. It's good to see hard lessons well-learned. :) )

I am merely looking at the backlash for so many in the industry from stunts of similar stupidity - from HS-Precision, to that gun writer fellow (forgot his name), to Smith, to Ruger, and the list goes on.

Taking my personal lack of interest in "those types of guns" out of the equation, that decision deserves some backlash IMO. If Wilson/NHC/Colt were to do something like that, I'd offload my stockpile overnight. Especially now that there is viable competition on the market for Glock.

[Tamara]

I am merely looking at the backlash for so many in the industry from stunts of similar stupidity - from HS-Precision, to that gun writer fellow (forgot his name), to Smith, to Ruger, and the list goes on.

Taking my personal lack of interest in "those types of guns" out of the equation, that decision deserves some backlash IMO. If Wilson/NHC/Colt were to do something like that, I'd offload my stockpile overnight. Especially now that there is viable competition on the market for Glock.

Glock already wouldn't sell their own blue sim guns to the general public. I'm just not seeing the equivalency between this and using Lon Horiuchi as a spokesman.

It's ironic that you mention "(i)f... Colt were to", considering that no single firearms company in America has a longer and stronger tradition of "LE Only" and going preemptively belly-up than the Dead Horse. :p

[BLR]

Glock already wouldn't sell their own blue sim guns to the general public. I'm just not seeing the equivalency between this and using Lon Horiuchi as a spokesman.

It's ironic that you mention "(i)f... Colt were to", considering that no single firearms company in America has a longer and stronger tradition of "LE Only" and going preemptively belly-up than the Dead Horse. :p

Yeah, I didn't think things through with the Colt reference....

[VolGrad]

Lame.

O well, I have a Rings G19 already as well as one of the plastic G17s they use for Hogue grip wrap demo in stores. I wouldn't mind having a M4 blue gun but those things are HIGH.

[ToddG]

Glock has some sort of weird patent lock down going on here. They don't allow Glock airsoft replicas to be sold here in the US either.

That has no bearing. If they're authorizing Rings to make the blue guns, who they sell them to is completely separate from any intellectual property protection issue.

It would be nice to hear from someone from Glock on this issue. "Dear Glock, why do you think it is OK for a private citizen to own a 17-round semiautomatic pistol but not a solid chunk of plastic?"

[Tamara]

It would be nice to hear from someone from Glock on this issue. "Dear Glock, why do you think it is OK for a private citizen to own a 17-round semiautomatic pistol but not a solid chunk of plastic?"

You know that the hypothetical response (assuming one) would be a mixture of dubious legalese and marketing gobbledygook that, when carefully parsed, would prove to be semantically null.

[ST911]

ASP makes those:
http://www.galls.com/style.html?assort=general_catalog&style=TN016

The problem with the ASP red guns is that they're not correct dims (over-sized) and don't fit holsters. Unless something has changed very recently.

I don't know about the Blackhawk gray guns. Handled, but never tried them. They seem smaller than the ASP though, so perhaps they're GTG. (Seems odd to see "Blackhawk" and "gtg" in close proximity.)

[Drang]

...(I'll note that, in the present crisis, both Smith (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_787655_-1_757992_757992_image) and Ruger (http://ruger.com/micros/advocacy/) have "Contact Your Legislators" webpages. It's good to see hard lessons well-learned. :) )
Thanks for the S&W link, I hadn't known they were doing this as well as Ruger.

I had to educate a guy about S&Ws reform over the last several years on another board just a week or two ago, seems some still think the Limeys are still in charge. AAMOFl I'm not sure he was even aware of Tompkins PLC, he may have thought the Smith and/or Wesson families were still running it...

[Dagga Boy]

The sad part of this is that Wayne and I recommend (almost insist) that students have "Blue" type guns to use for handling training at home in order to train in a safe manner. We do not use live guns for demo in the classroom as an example to our students of how to properly use dedicated training tools. This is another case of pure stupidity on the part of Glock (right up there with "lets screw around with the 9mm platform"). So you want your end users to train in the home with a live gun instead of a dedicated training tool that is priced right for this? Again, we will sell you a real gun, but only the police can have a hunk of plastic......totally stupid. At least I have my SIRT pistol and a weighted Blue Gun for my P30.

[orionz06]

Hasn't meant a damn thing to me.

I order ALL of my stuff as me, not my business.

[SeriousStudent]

Brownells still has them for sale on their website. I'm guess they will still sell them to us plebeian hordes.

I've got to order some shotgun parts from them today. I'm going to add a Ring's G19 and a J-frame to the order, and see if Gaston drops by to wag his finger at me.

[John Ralston]

We don't want those blue guns falling into the wrong hands and getting converted to G18's...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk8-ePGqBmM

[Chemsoldier]

The Blackhawk demo gun work fine in holsters, though the only one I have seen from them is the 17/22 demo.

I got a Ring's G19 blue gun and had to use the Military ID to get it. Which is freaking odd since only squirrely units get to use G19s and they generally have a mondo budget and dont need to force their personel to order them off the economy.

This is what my old First Sergeant referred to as "Jackassery."