Gun Control proposals for Maryland

[Kyle Reese]

Makes me appreciate the Commonwealth of Virginia that much more.

Maryland gun ban bill revealed (http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/robert-farago/maryland-gun-ban-bill-revealed/)

[Odin Bravo One]

I know he says oustide support saying, "Move", is not helpful.............and that they will be coming for "you" next.

Just the same........that is the plan for this household. Last of the family will be out by summer.

And there are more than a few states already working on their internal bills that would prohibit enforcement of a federal law agaisnt the 2nd A. Any of those are a good place to choose from.

[MikeyC]

I really curious to how these single feature bans will stand up to the "common use" language in Heller. Actually I'm hoping it won't stand, bat that's aside from the point.

[Spr1]

It is really a shame that a state with all the attributes of Maryland has to be such a communist cesspool politically.

[Slavex]

This should inspire companies like Beretta USA to move out of the state.

[SeriousStudent]

I know he says oustide support saying, "Move", is not helpful.............and that they will be coming for "you" next.

Just the same........that is the plan for this household. Last of the family will be out by summer.

And there are more than a few states already working on their internal bills that would prohibit enforcement of a federal law agaisnt the 2nd A. Any of those are a good place to choose from.


I have been contacted by four different people on different boards. All of them are moving, and wanted info about picking a place in Texas. These people are getting their houses ready to list, etc. They are not just pondering, these people are packing their stuff. A couple want to wait for the their kids to get out of school in June, the others are starting now.

And a fifth person contacted me today.

I'd love to see more hard-working gun owners move down here.

[GJM]

I suspect that new gun laws in states like NY will accelerate the migration of folks south and west, further polarizing the country. Since gun owners able to vote with their feet tend to be people paying taxes, this will economically hurt the states they are leaving and help the states they move to. On principle, I am minimizing my contacts with two NE states I have had a historical relationship with. This is the free market at work.

[TGS]

I'd love to see more hard-working gun owners move down here.

I'm still in the pondering stage. I've talked with my sister and disabled mom about what my personal line in the sand is, and they both agree I need to do what I need to do. I really don't want to cross it without a well-paying job, given the latter's condition and me wanting to help them until I get a great job and provide from afar living on me own...it was the whole point of me moving back to NJ when I left the USMC.

So far New Hampshire is high on my list as I've got a bunch of close friends that live there and it's an awesome state...one just moved there from MA last month, and another is also now on the way out (both commute to Boston for work).

One of my "things" is that unless I get a nice job in advance, I'll most likely be moving somewhere where I can pick up employment as an EMT, whether that be transports, 911 or working in an ER (but I really don't want to be the guy whose job it is to clean up puke and take stool samples). Florida would be a top choice since my passion is scuba, specifically cave diving (and I practically lived there 1 month a year for 4 years), but it's a tough market for EMS jobs down there as most of it is government run with budget problems.

I'm not familiar with Texas in this regard, so I need to look into it. Anyone here from Texas that is connected with EMS?

I could just move 1 mile west as there's a lot of EMT jobs and getting reciprocity there would be no issue, but eastern PA doesn't appeal to me and I figure if I'm moving, then I might as well really move to somewhere I would actually want. Plus PA isn't necessarily an awesome place in terms of politics/RKBA, anyways.

Hopefully it doesn't come to that in the first place.

[SeriousStudent]

Texas has a lot of programs specifically designed with veterans in mind. We have programs to help with land purchases, and education. Your CHL fee is half price, if you are a veteran, for instance.

Houston is one of the major medical centers for the world, and there are a lot of jobs there. But the Dallas area also has a really large medical job field. Not as big as Houston, but close. I used to do EMS stuff in here Texas, but it was sometime between the discovery of germs, and the invention of gauze. My job recommendations would be a wee bit dated.

If you like to dive, there is a direct flight from DFW to Belize City every day on American Airlines.

Just sayin.....

[TGS]

I used to do EMS stuff in here Texas, but it was sometime between the discovery of germs, and the invention of gauze. My job recommendations would be a wee bit dated.

In the last 40 years or so, there's only been a total of ~3000 paramedics in NJ. I met #43 over the summer. :eek:




If you like to dive, there is a direct flight from DFW to Belize City every day on American Airlines.

Just sayin.....

Do you live near DFW, and do you have a crawlspace I can live in for cheap? ;) lol

Honestly, if I lived on the east side of Texas (Houston, coincidence!?) I'd probably go east to Pensacola or Marianna, FL for weekend trips. Cave diving is wicked cheap, I love it, and I'm use to driving long distances.

[Tamara]

And there are more than a few states already working on their internal bills that would prohibit enforcement of a federal law agaisnt the 2nd A. Any of those are a good place to choose from.

This. The only firearms-related bills currently enrolled in the Hoosier legislature at the moment are more pro-gun ones. I'd type more, but I have to go stand in line for the 1500-table gun show down at the State Fairgrounds here in Hoosieropolis. Local news said it was around the block already at 0600. :eek:

[NickA]

TGS - can't speak directly to EMS, but San Antonio also has quite a few hospitals, including two large military ones. We also have a large number of active military and veterans living here though, so any veteran-preferred programs might be pretty crowded already.

[LittleLebowski]

I suspect that new gun laws in states like NY will accelerate the migration of folks south and west, further polarizing the country.

Agreed. I've never seen the country so polarized.

[JM Campbell]

TGS

If you need a room in SA, TX for awhile I'll help you out till you get on your feet, seriously.

Located 2 miles from outdoor range, 10 from NRA style indoor, and 13 from another outdoor that hosts IDPA and rifle/shotgun matches. As Nick said we are a growing city and have major medical centers here.

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[SouthNarc]

I've got a bunch of close friends that live there and it's an awesome state...one just moved there from MA last month


T I don't mean to infer anything about your friends when I say this but this is the precise reason that N.H. is starting to sway left. Not terrible but it's there. It's a phenomenon that the flinty New Englanders call "Mass-hole Migration" where they start coming in and changing the place. Same thing with Californians moving to CO. and MT. They get tired of high taxes and crime and move to some place nice and bring all their douchey community activism with them. To be fair they also bring nice things like sushi bars and coffee shops.....;)

[Kyle Reese]

Agreed. I've never seen the country so polarized.

Some Americans want to live free, and some want to live in the soviet union.

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[bdcheung]

...if this polarization and migration continues, is there a remote chance in the future of a second civil war?

Think about it. The gun-grabbing northerners versus the free-state southerners.

[SeriousStudent]

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Do you live near DFW, and do you have a crawlspace I can live in for cheap? ;) lol

Honestly, if I lived on the east side of Texas (Houston, coincidence!?) I'd probably go east to Pensacola or Marianna, FL for weekend trips. Cave diving is wicked cheap, I love it, and I'm use to driving long distances.

Pack yer wubbie. The guest room fee is a bottle of Buffalo Trace Bourbon per night. I think that's quite reasonable.

If you are used to driving long distances, you'll love it here. Seriously, it is a big state, and it can take a while to get someplace. That's one of the downsides. But the ups are pretty good.

Back on topic: I do agree about the polarization. I used to work in politics in the Clinton era. I thought it was bad then, and got out. That was Kumbayah choir practice session compared to now.

[TGS]

You guys are fantastic. Yes, I am 100% serious about moving if things go sour. It'd be easy for me to pick up and move, I just don't want to screw my family prematurely. The only reason my sister has been able to go to grad school is because I moved in and could offset enough costs for her. Fortunately, she graduates this semester. Talk about timing!



T I don't mean to infer anything about your friends when I say this but this is the precise reason that N.H. is starting to sway left. Not terrible but it's there. It's a phenomenon that the flinty New Englanders call "Mass-hole Migration" where they start coming in and changing the place. Same thing with Californians moving to CO. and MT. They get tired of high taxes and crime and move to some place nice and bring all their douchey community activism with them. To be fair they also bring nice things like sushi bars and coffee shops.....;)

Nope, they're pretty conservative.

The one is just as libertarian as me, but more loud about it. He's been wanting to move to NH for about a year (when he got back from Afghanistan) and finally got the house he wanted in Merrimack last month. In lieu of sushi bars and communist activism, he brought a few AKs, bagpipes and "Don't Tread on Me" flags across the border. The other is one of my best friends from college who got me into scuba diving....he's an ex-cop from DC that landed a cushy sales job on the north shore, and due to being overexposed to the socialist cooption polices in DC (come get your free needles!) now is on a personal mission to be the 1% that everyone hates for "not paying their fair share."

New Hampshire can only benefit from having both of them move there. The second guy will benefit the state on a financial level as well, since he's basking in green right now and will need to invest and save it somewhere, and fully intends to spite MA as much as possible.

Don't worry, just for you I'm going to befriend a hippy movement here and convince them to build their commune in southern LA.

[abu fitna]

T I don't mean to infer anything about your friends when I say this but this is the precise reason that N.H. is starting to sway left. Not terrible but it's there. It's a phenomenon that the flinty New Englanders call "Mass-hole Migration" where they start coming in and changing the place. Same thing with Californians moving to CO. and MT. They get tired of high taxes and crime and move to some place nice and bring all their douchey community activism with them. To be fair they also bring nice things like sushi bars and coffee shops.....;)

This is unfortunately one of the reasons why NOVA is also slowly trending towards anti-rights... enough refugees from MD, and points north... especially evident the number of NJ plates seen on the roads these days. While I am happy to welcome folks to a free Commonwealth that advances business opportunity for those seeking to make a living, they can leave their authoritarian state where they came from. But all the more reason to make friends, and take them to the range sooner rather than later. Amazing what first hand experience does to change the perspective.

I have made good inroads with a surprising number of even the most liberal of the downtown DC hipster scene in this manner.

[SouthNarc]

This is unfortunately one of the reasons why NOVA is also slowly trending towards anti-rights... enough refugees from MD, and points north... especially evident the number of NJ plates seen on the roads these days.

Yup. I wouldn't even consider North Carolina a conservative state anymore.

[Tamara]

Yup. I wouldn't even consider North Carolina a conservative state anymore.

It hasn't been called "The California of the South" for the last twenty years for nothin', after all...

[EMC]

...if this polarization and migration continues, is there a remote chance in the future of a second civil war?

Think about it. The gun-grabbing northerners versus the free-state southerners.

Except this time the Western states would join in with the south. We Utahns had a few pre civil war skirmishes with the Feds in a little action called the Utah War. We burned a few of Johnston's Army supply trains down and threatened to burn Salt Lake to the ground in a scorched earth campaign before cooler heads prevailed in negotiations.

[JConn]

It would be interesting. The northern states wouldn't survive very long. Before too long no one would sell them anything because the currency would be so devalued it would mean almost nothing. It would be an interesting experiment.

[GJM]

Not northern, but "northeastern!"

Montana, Alaska, Idaho, Wyoming, the Dakotas and other states are as pro gun as anywhere in the US.

[TGS]

Not northern, but "northeastern!"

Montana, Alaska, Idaho, Wyoming, the Dakotas and other states are as pro gun as anywhere in the US.

As are Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine.

It's more of just a hodgepodge of states. CA isn't anywhere near the northeast, nor are Maryland, Illinois or DC northeast.


It would be interesting. The northern states wouldn't survive very long. Before too long no one would sell them anything because the currency would be so devalued it would mean almost nothing. It would be an interesting experiment.

Don't know about that......NJ has a pretty strong economy, some robust refineries and factories, as well as being the home to many (if not most) of the Fortune 500 companies while NYC is the commercial capitol of Earth.

[Kyle Reese]

It hasn't been called "The California of the South" for the last twenty years for nothin', after all...

Maryland has been referred to as "Cuba of the Chesapeake"...

[NickA]

As someone funnier than me has said :
New Hampshire : Live Free or Die
Massachusetts : Live Free or Here
:p

[MikeyC]

....And the hits keep on coming. Interestingly it's not as Draconian as I was initially expecting. My guess is that the Teflon Leperchaun is playing it safe while adding as many restriction as possible to make such it sticks.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/121676918/O-Malley-Gun-Bill-2013