Surprise, surprise the woman who pushed a man into an oncoming subway train....

[BaiHu]

had a huge history of run ins with LE and was diagnosed as a schizophrenic:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324274404578211732779311530.html?m od=WSJ_hps_MIDDLE_Video_Third

[John Ralston]

Ban Subways now!

[Kyle Reese]

Ban Subways now!

Background checks for people wanting to ride the subway is a reasonable and common sense compromise. If only we could find a way to close the infamous subway loophole....

[JV_]

Background checks for people wanting to ride the subway
DHS is probably listening...

[Shellback]

Ban Subways now!

Better hope Jared's not listening.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B1LlYh6iKqs/TBCaYnzgE0I/AAAAAAAABrw/V3fSL9SAR4M/s1600/jared-subway.jpg

[SecondsCount]

Better hope Jared's not listening.

:D

[CCT125US]

If only they limited the passenger capacity.

[secondstoryguy]

If only they limited the passenger capacity.

LOL!

[TCinVA]

Bloomberg's subway has killed more people this year than all my guns put together ever have.

...except for maybe my Nagant. No idea how many political prisoners some drunk Russian conscript whacked with that.

[cdunn]

police at fault for not doing something before or mothers at fault?

[LHS]

Bloomberg's subway has killed more people this year than all my guns put together ever have.

...except for maybe my Nagant. No idea how many political prisoners some drunk Russian conscript whacked with that.

Brilliant.

[SeriousStudent]

I think a reasonable compromise would be if Viceroy Bloomberg banned all subways larger than 16 ounces.

[LOKNLOD]

I've never been I a subway, and would like to continue that streak, but how is it possible to just shove someone in front of a train like that? I can't build a set of rarely-used steps in a remote, secured location accessed only by trained professionals without hand rails, toe boards, and/or fall protection.

Do NY subways really have folks just milling about next to a big ledge with trains zinging by with no railing? A city where people can't be trusted to freely choose what size drink they want, but apparently it's a piece of cake to push folks in front of moving trains?

[jon volk]

http://hothardware.com/newsimages/Item21175/nyc-subway.jpg

[Zhurdan]

I've never been I a subway, and would like to continue that streak, but how is it possible to just shove someone in front of a train like that? I can't build a set of rarely-used steps in a remote, secured location accessed only by trained professionals without hand rails, toe boards, and/or fall protection.

Do NY subways really have folks just milling about next to a big ledge with trains zinging by with no railing? A city where people can't be trusted to freely choose what size drink they want, but apparently it's a piece of cake to push folks in front of moving trains?

Kinda funny, ain't it? Wanna build a deck? Permits and engineers required. Wanna add an extension to your garage? Permits and engineers required.

Wanna stand 12" from a multi-ton train and a hot electrical rail? Please insert credit card for Multipass, Leeloo Dallas.

[BaiHu]

I've never been I a subway, and would like to continue that streak, but how is it possible to just shove someone in front of a train like that? I can't build a set of rarely-used steps in a remote, secured location accessed only by trained professionals without hand rails, toe boards, and/or fall protection.

Do NY subways really have folks just milling about next to a big ledge with trains zinging by with no railing? A city where people can't be trusted to freely choose what size drink they want, but apparently it's a piece of cake to push folks in front of moving trains?

There is no way to stop someone from pushing you in front of a train unless you are vigilant. New Yorkers for all their 'tuff guy' attitude have some of the worst situational awareness that I've seen in a group of people next to teeny boppers running with their iPods blasting so loud that I hear them coming before they see me.

This is what a typical platform looks like:

http://nyportraits.blogspot.com/2008/11/subway-platform-59th-street.html

Yup, it's that easy, which is why when I'm in the city, I'm behind everyone else until the train comes to a stop.

[Wendell]

All this prejudice against mental illnesses. :rolleyes: Doesn't everyone know the current (PC) doctrine? "Patients with schzophrenia are usually harmless."

[tremiles]

Maybe I'm wrong, but every time I've ridden a Monorail at WDW, I've had to pass through a 30 or 36" gate that opened only after the train came to a complete stop, with the doors aligned to the gate openings. If there are no gates in the NY subway because of a crush hazard, wouldn't hundreds of folks be exploding onto the tracks everyday? Or is there a line that New Yorkers draw in personal freedoms that says it's OK for the government to restrict soda, but not to restrict nonvoluntary subway platform ejection.

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[TGS]

Maybe I'm wrong, but every time I've ridden a Monorail at WDW, I've had to pass through a 30 or 36" gate that opened only after the train came to a complete stop, with the doors aligned to the gate openings. If there are no gates in the NY subway because of a crush hazard, wouldn't hundreds of folks be exploding onto the tracks everyday? Or is there a line that New Yorkers draw in personal freedoms that says it's OK for the government to restrict soda, but not to restrict nonvoluntary subway platform ejection.

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I've never seen a gate to actually step onto a train/subway, either in this country (San Diego, Philly, NJ, NYC, DC metro) or London. Sounds smart, though.

Mind the gap,

TGS

[Palmguy]

I've never seen a gate to actually step onto a train/subway, either in this country (San Diego, Philly, NJ, NYC, DC metro) or London. Sounds smart, though.

Mind the gap,

TGS

I'm not often in an area with trains/subways...just not common in the south; but that said, the Atlanta airport relies on a subway style train to move you around between terminals and the tracks are completely sealed off to passengers. There are doors in the wall that coincide with doors on the train, so there is zero risk of being pushed onto the track.

http://c1803302.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/9853db0e-a8b0-43e2-b66a-f24d4d9a1122.jpg

[Cacafuego]

What I've never understood is why there isn't some kind of crawlspace under the platform, so if someone ends up down there there's somewhere to go.

[CCT125US]

Maybe if subways came with FPBS (falling person block safety) or grip safetys that would only allow a speading train to pass if everyone is holding on tight.

[SecondsCount]

Maybe if subways came with FPBS (falling person block safety) or grip safetys that would only allow a speading train to pass if everyone is holding on tight.

You cannot stop a train quick enough for a safety device to matter.

[jon volk]

Maybe if subways came with FPBS (falling person block safety) or grip safetys that would only allow a speading train to pass if everyone is holding on tight.

.....or a Gadget.

[TCinVA]

I've never been I a subway, and would like to continue that streak, but how is it possible to just shove someone in front of a train like that? I can't build a set of rarely-used steps in a remote, secured location accessed only by trained professionals without hand rails, toe boards, and/or fall protection.

Do NY subways really have folks just milling about next to a big ledge with trains zinging by with no railing? A city where people can't be trusted to freely choose what size drink they want, but apparently it's a piece of cake to push folks in front of moving trains?

In one of life's great ironies, those who insist on regulatory intervention on even the most minute aspects of daily life will insist that the cost benefit analysis doesn't favor making massive expensive and inconvenient changes to prevent this phenomenon.

[BaiHu]

That's because 24 oz cokes put a larger burden on health care, whereas dead people on subway tracks don't ;)

It's always about control over safety or prevention. Putting a gate up doesn't control anyone does it?

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