G48 vs G43X

[D-der]

I know over the year's these slim lines have had ups and down's
Admittedly, The small gun comparison thread has me thinking so...
Any thoughts or input is appreciated, As always.
Is it still a general thought that the 43X is more likely to run trouble free
due to the lighter slide mass or is the 48 comparable in reliability ?
In general, what are the odds of taking one of these out of the box, mounting
a K series / EPS Carry and having an accurate, reliable, trouble free pistol ?
I'm not really recoil sensitive, don't really mind running 50rd's in my 9mm LCR
so if I did decide to go down this road and the 43X was the better option I'd
likely go that route. Years ago the 43 didn't work for me, the grip / shape was
just to small so considering another bite of a different apple, I'm just not eager
enough to take the bite if there's a good chance of getting a turd that wont run.
As we've all done and I'll no doubt do again, I'm just not that curious about this one.

[GJM]

I have had really good reliability and accuracy with multiple 43X pistols.

[RJ]

Have you shot them yet?

[Noah]

My 43X MOS no optic had zero malfunctions in 600 rounds, with 1 Shield magazine failure in that time (follower caught in mag release cut). My early silver slide 48 had 2 malfunctions in the first 300 rounds with OEM mags, and then 3 malfunctions in the next 400 rounds with PSA mags.

I gave up on all non OEM mags after that, they’d already been on a short leash for me.

My little brother had a 48MOS, probably 1000 rounds zero failures, with a 407K and OEM mags.

I find the 48 significantly more pleasant to shoot. I’d get some pain in my wrist with the 43X.

I want to love the guns, but they are large and snappy for their capacity vs the competition, in my opinion. Aftermarket mags give them “flush mag Macro” size and capacity…. But are a gamble. Even if your gun works with them, if you put together another it might not, and if you have to replace a worn part, that changes the equation too. That made aftermarket mags a no go for me.

With the latest recoil spring mod and issues with Sig, if I wasn’t happy with my 26, I’d be thinking about a slimline Glock again too, so I get it…. I like how they feel and carry and I like the idea of them.

Conventional wisdom says 43X will be more reliable especially with an optic since the recoil spring was designed for that slide.

Confusingly, 43X failures are attributed to excess slide velocity, usually with hotter ammo, but then the 48 with the significantly heavier slide has seen issues in the past, especially with the weight of an optic. That gives me the feeling the guns have a comparatively small operating window.

[GJM]

In my testing, I have seen no difference in accuracy or reliability between the 43X and 26. The 26 is more comfortable to shoot, the 43X is easier for me to draw and reload.

[Noah]

In my testing, I have seen no difference in accuracy or reliability between the 43X and 26. The 26 is more comfortable to shoot, the 43X is easier for me to draw and reload.

George, do you have a preference on carrying the 43X vs 26, in terms of comfort and concealment?

I know you initially preferred the 43X to the 48, but the 48 does close the gap to the 26 partially on shooting comfort.

[foxsimple]

I think the 43x is a phenomenal pistol. Some of these opinions may go against some of the consensus that seems to be common here but they are just opinions.

For me the 43x is the absolute smallest pistol that I can still competently shoot as well as a full size pistol. By that I mean it is more snappy but if I slow down a tiny bit I can still get A zone hits at 25 and even 50 yards.

I find that the shorter muzzle is easier to conceal. It pokes me less in aiwb and I don’t see any advantage to a longer barrel or slide. I also find that the slimness of the pistol conceals and carries substantially better than something like a g19. For reference I’m a tall rangy build. The grip is as short as possible while still allowing me to get my full hand on it without something hanging off.

I don’t mind the 10rd capacity. That’s enough for me and if I want more I’d just switch to a g19. I like the lower weight of the pistol without the extra rounds.

Mine have red dots and no light. I’ve fired lawman and 150+rounds of 124 +p gold dot without issue.

[RJ]

I'll recap my experience, that I've told a few times.


Glock 43X, irons, bought 9/2019, shot 608 rounds, sold 05/2020. No malfunctions.

From my Training Journal:

"The G43X hits my hand oddly for some reason; perhaps the overall lightness, Glock-specific weight distribution of a heavy slide and light frame, skinny Glock 19 sized grip and (since it is my carry gun) stout self defense ammo? Anyway it is not fun to shoot. "

I never really enjoyed shooting it. I'd describe it as "snappy". I tried a tungsten guide rod, it helped a bit but I never really liked shooting it.


Glock 48, irons/milled, bought 09/2020, shot 1,180 rounds. I had it cut for a 507k 04/2021 at Primary Machine.

Again, from my Training Journal at the time:

"I liked almost everything about it; SCD, flat profile, shoots well, carries easily, the 507k, Glock, etc. The thing is, lately I was chasing reliability issues and it was really playing with my head. I was not sure exactly how many rounds I would need to shoot in order to "be sure" after the recent failure to feed problems with the 124+p (4) and Blazer 124 (1) after it came back with the optic."

At the end of the day I think the issue was a timing thing with +p. I suspicion if i had switched to 124 HST I might have been fine, but ammo was not cheap during COVID, and I didn't really want to keep burning it up just to find out, so I sent it on.

Gun was sold 06/2021.


Fast forward to:

Glock 48 MOS, irons at the moment, bought 04/2025, shot 100 rounds to date, no malfunctions.

[GJM]

George, do you have a preference on carrying the 43X vs 26, in terms of comfort and concealment?

I know you initially preferred the 43X to the 48, but the 48 does close the gap to the 26 partially on shooting comfort.

I find the 43X slightly more comfortable to carry because it is thinner, but the 26 conceals better because of how short it is in the grip.

If someone finds the 43X to be uncomfortable to shoot, they should install a Talon brand pro model decal, and shoot the pistol again before making any decisions. That Talon decal also made an enormous difference for me with the straight 43.

[BPMan]

I carried a G48 for awhile and loved it. However, as sweet as the G43X is my current CCW, the IWI Masada Slim, is simply a better 'mousetrap'. If you shoot one you'll know why. Just my 2 cents.

[diananike]

I have 2 G48s ( one original silver slide and one MOS with TLR and 407k) and a G43.
Both my 48s have well over 5000 rounds on each of them.
I’ve been in the habit of shooting my 48s until I get a malfunction before cleaning them. They are also rarely lubricated at all often only during that infrequent cleaning.

They generally go at least 1000 rounds of my 124gr home reloads before malfunctioning at which point I’ll deep clean and lubricate them. This invariably cures any feeding issues for another thousand or so rounds. I have confidence that if I kept them clean and lubed malfunctioning would be almost nonexistent with quality ammunition.
I have only used factory mags in my 48s.
I have only fired a few hundred or so hollowpoints of various manufacturers through the 2 of them with no malfunctions. I’ve heard they are generally more reliable with standard pressure ammunition so that’s what I keep in stock for them for any serious use.

I have a couple of spare recoil springs for the 48s and plan to replace them if I start to experience any feeding issues that aren’t solved by cleaning. Hasn’t happened yet so they are still originally sprung.

I don’t have near as many rounds through the 43 (maybe 1k) but I can’t imagine it would be any more reliable than my 48s. And I expect the 43x would be more akin to the 43 for reliability.

[Sig_Fiend]

George, have you by chance measured any differences in draw characteristics between the 43X vs G26? If so, I'd love to hear about it if you don't mind. For example time to establish grip, time to clear the holster, etc.

It's been awhile since I got rid of my G48. From what I remember, the main difference I saw when I benchmarked them before is maybe a tenth or two of a second slower to establish grip with the G26 and a flush baseplate, depending on the holster. From there, any speed difference between count 1 and the pressout seemed negligible at best.

One thing I don't remember testing against the G48 was tweaks to the G26 to see if I could close the gap specifically on time to establish grip. For example, a GeePlate on the G26 to reduce any hesitation. Of course, then it runs the gamut if we bring in finger groove baseplates, 12 rounders, etc. I'd be curious to hear if you ever measured any of those differences yourself?

[Mitch]

I had a 43X COA that would not run with 124 +p Gold Dot or 147 HST. I dumped it after that. So, I’d be careful with ammo selection if you insist on one of these and run a bunch to confirm reliability.

If I had to use a slimline Glock I’d get a 43x with no optic. I had better luck with that. But personally I think there are better options.

[GJM]

I had a 43X COA that would not run with 124 +p Gold Dot or 147 HST. I dumped it after that. So, I’d be careful with ammo selection if you insist on one of these and run a bunch to confirm reliability.

If I had to use a slimline Glock I’d get a 43x with no optic. I had better luck with that. But personally I think there are better options.

This is a big deal, given how mainstream those two ammo choices. What was the nature of the stoppages?

Assuming you didn't have a lemon pistol, someone on the development team has some 'splaining to do. I have had no issues with lightweight optics like the 407K on the 43/43X.

[Mitch]

This is a big deal, given how mainstream those two ammo choices. What was the nature of the stoppages?

Assuming you didn't have a lemon pistol, someone on the development team has some 'splaining to do. I have had no issues with lightweight optics like the 407K on the 43/43X.

All failures to feed. At first I thought it may be me locking the slide open with my grip, but it also happened strong hand only, deliberately avoiding the slide lock. OEM magazines.

[LockedBreech]

The only thing that has stopped me from getting a 43X is that the grip looks a mile long compared to the Shield Plus / 365XL I'm used to carrying. It's hard for me to envision a carry setup that doesn't print (I usually carry at 2 to 3 o' clock in a JMCK pull-the-dot IWB).

[G19Fan]

I really like a g48

A g43x hits my hand oddly and hammers the base of my thumb. No issues with g48

Cutting off the beavertail fixes it

[Darth_Uno]

If you find some older posts of mine you’ll see I went back and forth on the 48, and may have given some different opinions at times than what I have now.

It (or a 43x) fills a niche between the 43 and 19. Which was exactly why I bought it - then realized that sounds great on paper but isn’t a particular need of mine. Moot point since OP already said he doesn’t like the 43.

Having owned a 48 and 43 at the same time, I was able to make my own 43x and I can tell you slide length is a matter of preference. Sample size of one, but both slides on the 48 frame were equally reliable. Neither had an optic though.

[D-der]

Thanks very much, There's a good amount of info here and I appreciate the feed back.
It sounds like they're not a sure bet to run well but odds are pretty good.
I'm really liking the RXM I picked up, I know it's not a Glock which may or may not be
a good thing depending on given experiences but I really like the simple robust build
of the gun and I'm thinking of trying a slimline for those kind of screwy reasons.
I'm fairly invested in the the 365 format and don't see not carrying my chopped Macro
when it's not the RXM. I'm just thinking the 43X / 48 may be an option to consider.
I know I've got an old Shield RMC on the shelf which would be a direct mount so aside
from the purchase price and a couple additional mag's it wouldn't be a real pricey try out
before jumping in with a plate and EPS. I'm not really swayed either way by slide length as
it would have a dot, my primary concern there would just be accuracy and reliability.
10 rd's is a down side and I doubt I'd go down the Shield mag rabbit hole, I guess if I
was able to shoot it well enough,I'd get over the limited round count for occasional carry.

[RJ]

Re: Shield S15 mags, I ran a couple with the Shield steel mag release for a brief period. Perhaps less than 100 rounds in all. Mine ran ok at the range. Some seem to have issues, and some run them fine, but I never really got confident enough to carry them. Cool idea to have 15+1 in that thin of a gun, though.

[SWAT Lt.]

I had an original 43X silver slide that probably had 2k rounds through it without malfunction, including 147 HST and RA9T. I have a G48 that has not malfunctioned (about 1500 rounds through the gun) including RA9T, 147 Gold Dot, and a fair amount of 147 HST. My new 43X with the rail has only about 500 rounds thus far but runs fine, including a box of 147 HST. Not high round counts on any of the guns but enough for me to be confident that they work. My preferred carry round in small 9s these days is the 124 HST. I quite like the 124+P Gold Dot but not in the small frame guns due to the recoil. I don't recall shooting any of it in the 43Xs or 48.

Like others have said, I find the G48 a little easier to shoot than the 43X.

[jeep45238]

Re: Shield S15 mags, I ran a couple with the Shield steel mag release for a brief period. Perhaps less than 100 rounds in all. Mine ran ok at the range. Some seem to have issues, and some run them fine, but I never really got confident enough to carry them. Cool idea to have 15+1 in that thin of a gun, though.

The shield mags (and their competitors) are dancing on the line of functional, from what I've seen.

Every single person I've asked how the mags are working out on the range have glowing reviews - how many round counts, time of ownership, etc..

After I asked them this question, they ALL had issues either that range session, or within a short timeline afterwards. @Noah can verify this, ironically enough.



It's almost like manufacturers made the biggest capacity, reliable mag they could for the gun - and they release revisions if engineering was able to get a few extra rounds without sacrificing reliability down the road.

[LittleLebowski]

The shield mags (and their competitors) are dancing on the line of functional, from what I've seen.

Every single person I've asked how the mags are working out on the range have glowing reviews - how many round counts, time of ownership, etc..

After I asked them this question, they ALL had issues either that range session, or within a short timeline afterwards. @Noah can verify this, ironically enough.



It's almost like manufacturers made the biggest capacity, reliable mag they could for the gun - and they release revisions if engineering was able to get a few extra rounds without sacrificing reliability down the road.

Not this Shield magazine user. Love'em, took them to a GreenOps class with dirty Titegroup reloads. No issues.

[Default.mp3]

It's almost like manufacturers made the biggest capacity, reliable mag they could for the gun - and they release revisions if engineering was able to get a few extra rounds without sacrificing reliability down the road.As a counterpoint, folks have shaved polymer off double stack OEM Glock mags to fit the G43X/G48, and they seem to work fine.

[jeep45238]

Not this Shield magazine user. Love'em, took them to a GreenOps class with dirty Titegroup reloads. No issues.

I've seen it at local ranges, a 2 day FPF class, and other local classes. And all of the users had the same retort until these things shit the bed on them, and they went back to OEM.

[LittleLebowski]

I've seen it at local ranges, a 2 day FPF class, and other local classes. And all of the users had the same retort until these things shit the bed on them, and they went back to OEM.

Well, not me. I got the metal mag catch, too.

[jeep45238]

Well, not me. I got the metal mag catch, too.

And they all said the same thing.

You do you man, I've seen enough users with various levels of round counts/cleanlieness, etc., to say I'll take a 10 round Toyota reliable mag, than a 15 round hot-rod mag.

[jeep45238]

As a counterpoint, folks have shaved polymer off double stack OEM Glock mags to fit the G43X/G48, and they seem to work fine.

For how long?

Keep in mind OEM considers reliability, durability, over time.

I can double the horsepower in a car, but I also know that I'll be doing a lot more repairs/maintenance. In some cases, it'll be a transmission with a reduced lifespan, or other cases with a fuel system that needs regular repair (I got way too good at dropping the fuel tank on my '03 GT to address split FI fuel line or broken clamps).

Meanwhile, Ford achieved the same power output with much greater reliability/durabililty due to a different "mix" and better R&D than the aftermarket can ever dream of.

[LittleLebowski]

And they all said the same thing.

You do you man, I've seen enough users with various levels of round counts/cleanlieness, etc., to say I'll take a 10 round Toyota reliable mag, than a 15 round hot-rod mag.

I did that for years, it was boringly reliable. Now I have a GP100 WC on my hip, because PF :D

[LockedBreech]

I did that for years, it was boringly reliable. Now I have a GP100 WC on my hip, because PF :D

Those WC Rugers always look slick.

[Default.mp3]

For how long?

Keep in mind OEM considers reliability, durability, over time.

I can double the horsepower in a car, but I also know that I'll be doing a lot more repairs/maintenance. In some cases, it'll be a transmission with a reduced lifespan, or other cases with a fuel system that needs regular repair (I got way too good at dropping the fuel tank on my '03 GT to address split FI fuel line or broken clamps).

Meanwhile, Ford achieved the same power output with much greater reliability/durabililty due to a different "mix" and better R&D than the aftermarket can ever dream of.Sure, and perhaps the shaved 19 mags would be less durable than the standard 19 mags... but it also strongly suggests there's plenty of room to upsize the magazine capacity, particularly if they gave up on the polymer cladding and went full metal (which I presume is what Mec-gar is going to do, and trust them to do it right). I find it extremely difficult to believe that Glock made the "the biggest capacity, reliable mag they could for the gun" when they decided to just do a single stack mag; consider how many other guns from well-established manufacturers that have grips the same size or smaller be able to fit more rounds into the magazine (CC9 is shorter with the 10 round mag, the Shield Plus is shorter with a 10 round mag, the Hellcat is shorter with an 11 round mag, the P365 is shorter with a 10 round mag).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not willing to switch to the Dagger Micro mags or the Shield mags, simply because I don't trust either of them enough for their 50% extra capacity to sway me, but I would hardly say that Glock has done a great job in creating the highest capacity magazine for the 43X/48 while retaining reliability. Fingers crossed that Mec-gar comes through.

[jeep45238]

Sure, and perhaps the shaved 19 mags would be less durable than the standard 19 mags... but it also strongly suggests there's plenty of room to upsize the magazine capacity, particularly if they gave up on the polymer cladding and went full metal (which I presume is what Mec-gar is going to do, and trust them to do it right). I find it extremely difficult to believe that Glock made the "the biggest capacity, reliable mag they could for the gun" when they decided to just do a single stack mag; consider how many other guns from well-established manufacturers that have grips the same size or smaller be able to fit more rounds into the magazine (CC9 is shorter with the 10 round mag, the Shield Plus is shorter with a 10 round mag, the Hellcat is shorter with an 11 round mag, the P365 is shorter with a 10 round mag).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not willing to switch to the Dagger Micro mags or the Shield mags, simply because I don't trust either of them enough for their 50% extra capacity to sway me, but I would hardly say that Glock has done a great job in creating the highest capacity magazine for the 43X/48 while retaining reliability. Fingers crossed that Mec-gar comes through.

You're forgetting design/manufacturing restraints, such as how far past the bottom of the frame a mag will fit or the inclusion of poly cladding to mitigate rusting.


Personally, this stuff is best looked at through a holistic lens which includes end user experience, engineering, and cost. Hyper-focusing on one thing can increase that aspect from a performance aspect, at the cost of others.

IE - how many people roll with a MBX Glock mag on their EDC? I'll bet a PF dollar the answer is nobody.

[GJM]

I have heard, from a reliable source, about some pretty vigorous testing of the PSA dagger 15 round mags. Apparently they did pretty good. They also have the benefit of not requiring a metal mag catch.

[Noah]

I have heard, from a reliable source, about some pretty vigorous testing of the PSA dagger 15 round mags. Apparently they did pretty good. They also have the benefit of not requiring a metal mag catch.

They did not work for me in two guns in Summer 2023, but I heard they have seen revisions.

I like using the factory mag catch.

[GJM]

They did not work for me in two guns in Summer 2023, but I heard they have seen revisions.

I like using the factory mag catch.

At the end of the day, I would rather have 10 reliable rounds than 15 questionable ones.

[jeep45238]

They did not work for me in two guns in Summer 2023

I'm pretty sure I asked how they were working, heard "just fine" and a month or so later pointing out failures in various pistol samples of the same mags :p

[Noah]

I'm pretty sure I asked how they were working, heard "just fine" and a previous a month or so later pointing out failures in various pistol samples of the same mags :p

That was my little brother’s- his shot 100 rounds their first range trip with 1 failure he chalked up to break in, and then as soon as your eyes were on them, it was having the same failure nearly every shot with both of his mags.

Worked with OEM.

[HeavyDuty]

As a counterpoint, folks have shaved polymer off double stack OEM Glock mags to fit the G43X/G48, and they seem to work fine.

Wait, what?

[Noah]

Wait, what?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Glock43X/comments/z5p8yk/take_a_dremel_to_the_right_side_of_a_glock_19/

[feudist]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Glock43X/comments/z5p8yk/take_a_dremel_to_the_right_side_of_a_glock_19/

Interdasting.
Did you catch the G26 mag for a G43 suggestion?

I just stuck a G19 mag into my G48. It's very close.

[RJ]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Glock43X/comments/z5p8yk/take_a_dremel_to_the_right_side_of_a_glock_19/

Woah.

[Noah]

Interdasting.
Did you catch the G26 mag for a G43 suggestion?

I just stuck a G19 mag into my G48. It's very close.

43 is notably thinner than a 43X, I can’t imagine that would work

[jeep45238]

43 is notably thinner than a 43X, I can’t imagine that would work

This - and it's also the reason I moved on from the 43x/48.

The 43 with a +0 OEM pinky extension, along with the curved backstop that meets flush with the baseplate, is like a mini CCO.

Full 4 finger grip for me, back strap ends about 3/4 down the palm, small dovetail helps lock the frame in without impacting the draw.

[Leroy Suggs]

43 is notably thinner than a 43X, I can’t imagine that would work

Exactly. You can't even start a 43X mag in a 43.

[GJM]

43 with a dot on top, like a 43X upper, is a B8 shooting machine.

[jeep45238]

43 with a dot on top, like a 43X upper, is a B8 shooting machine.

Shhhhhhh.



I shoot my milled 43 almost as well as my tuned VP9 with a dot.

[Noah]

Shhhhhhh.



I shoot my milled 43 almost as well as my tuned VP9 with a dot.

That’s definitely the pawn shop cerakote doing the work.

[jeep45238]

That’s definitely the pawn shop cerakote doing the work.

Bro....it's not even pawn shop quality. It's meth barb-wire at best.

But that may be the secret.

[Trajan]

43 with a dot on top, like a 43X upper, is a B8 shooting machine.

I actually just picked up a loose 43x frame and threw it on my 43. Switch between the two when needed, although I mostly used the TTI+2 in the 43 so it's moot.

Mine just has Dawson's on it though. I've thought about putting a dot on it, but for what it is I don't really see the point. I can easily keep them all in the black at 25.

[MGW]

Is there an easy way to identify that a 43 has the marksman barrel?

[Leroy Suggs]

Is there an easy way to identify that a 43 has the marksman barrel?

It will have the notch and target crown.

[Sig_Fiend]

43 is notably thinner than a 43X, I can’t imagine that would work

The user comment on that reddit thread was speculating about grip chopping a 43X to 43 length, then modifying a G26 mag in the same way. The idea being, theoretically, G43 size with a flush fitting 10rds.

[Elwin]

The user comment on that reddit thread was speculating about grip chopping a 43X to 43 length, then modifying a G26 mag in the same way. The idea being, theoretically, G43 size with a flush fitting 10rds.

That was my first thought. Like the Shield Arms chopped 43x/48 but less screwy mags.

[Noah]

The user comment on that reddit thread was speculating about grip chopping a 43X to 43 length, then modifying a G26 mag in the same way. The idea being, theoretically, G43 size with a flush fitting 10rds.

That would be a great gun

[NC_BRP]

I've never shot a 48 but I do own a 43X.

It is snappy in a way that is beyond irritating. I swapped the trigger shoe out for a smooth shoe from a 17... and while that helped, it didn't help enough. The recoil in the 43X goes straight to my bones and I hate it.

My 26 and Shield are significantly better shooting experiences... and I love my 47.

That 43X, though... I wish I'd never bought it.

[jeep45238]

Ya'll are missing out on the secret sauce - a G48 upper on a G43 lower, with a +0 pinky extension on the magazine ;)

[Navin Johnson]

I've never shot a 48 but I do own a 43X.

It is snappy in a way that is beyond irritating. I swapped the trigger shoe out for a smooth shoe from a 17... and while that helped, it didn't help enough. The recoil in the 43X goes straight to my bones and I hate it.

My 26 and Shield are significantly better shooting experiences... and I love my 47.

That 43X, though... I wish I'd never bought it.

Yep. 365 and 365x only a bit better than 43x. 365XL is almost shield good (recoil)

[Noah]

I've never shot a 48 but I do own a 43X.

It is snappy in a way that is beyond irritating. I swapped the trigger shoe out for a smooth shoe from a 17... and while that helped, it didn't help enough. The recoil in the 43X goes straight to my bones and I hate it.

My 26 and Shield are significantly better shooting experiences... and I love my 47.

That 43X, though... I wish I'd never bought it.

I really wonder why many of us feel that way about it and others don’t.

[GJM]

I really wonder why many of us feel that way about it and others don’t.

To your point, while shooting a lot of rounds through a slimline pistol makes my hands ache some afterwards, I don’t particularly notice anything shooting them, including the 43, 43X and 365 with Lawman 124, Gold Dot 124, and HST 124+P. I do have Talon grip decals on those guns.

[Noah]

To your point, while shooting a lot of rounds through a slimline pistol makes my hands ache some afterwards, I don’t particularly notice anything shooting them, including the 43, 43X and 365 with Lawman 124, Gold Dot 124, and HST 124+P. I do have Talon grip decals on those guns.

It’s more an immediate annoyance when I finish a drill or shot string, but it’s hard not to be annoyed by that when so many other guns don’t feel that way at all.

I’m enjoying my 26 and 42 so much I’m starting to want a 43, and I don’t even know why. On paper, I think the 42 and 26 are both better guns than the 43, pending possible reliability with the 42. But the heart wants what it wants…

[Wondering Beard]

I've never shot a 48 but I do own a 43X.

It is snappy in a way that is beyond irritating. I swapped the trigger shoe out for a smooth shoe from a 17... and while that helped, it didn't help enough. The recoil in the 43X goes straight to my bones and I hate it.

My 26 and Shield are significantly better shooting experiences... and I love my 47.

That 43X, though... I wish I'd never bought it.

I would bet its the width to a great degree.

The wider 26, 47 and shield send that recoil over a wider area of the web of your hand making it softer in effect, while the 43, 43x and 48 send the recoil in a very narrow area (straight to your bones, as you say). The same applies to J frames without high horn grips.

To my mind, it's also why the very large G21 is so soft shooting.

[Leroy Suggs]

I shoot and carry nothing but slims. 43, 43X, and 48.
I can honestly say I don't notice the recoil.
Zero pain.

I did notice the 365. Nasty little gun.I dumped it straightaway.

[Navin Johnson]

I would bet its the width to a great degree.

The wider 26, 47 and shield send that recoil over a wider area of the web of your hand making it softer in effect, while the 43, 43x and 48 send the recoil in a very narrow area (straight to your bones, as you say). The same applies to J frames without high horn grips.

To my mind, it's also why the very large G21 is so soft shooting.

Side-by-side the 365 has noticeably more slide velocity than the Shield. Everybody’s hand is different so that obviously plays in. The shield is narrower at the back than the 365 is. The other problems with a 365 is the short grip front to back. It makes it hard for two hand control. SHO & WHO is notably easier with the shield plus due to the smoother recoil.

I have had a 43X a 365 and a shield plus. The shield plus is notably softer (smoother rolling recoil) shooting. If I ever bought another 365 it would be an XL as it was approaching the shield plus in shootability. I would try a 48 before owning another 43x. I think the 26 is fantastic

[RJ]

I've never shot a 48 but I do own a 43X.

It is snappy in a way that is beyond irritating. I swapped the trigger shoe out for a smooth shoe from a 17... and while that helped, it didn't help enough. The recoil in the 43X goes straight to my bones and I hate it.

My 26 and Shield are significantly better shooting experiences... and I love my 47.

That 43X, though... I wish I'd never bought it.

This echos my experience almost exactly.

I never liked shooting my 43X; nothing helped, Apex kit, Talon rubber, Lenny's magic guide rod, whatever.

To me, in terms of comfort, my ranking would be 48 and 365XL about the best, then the 365X, followed by the 365. The 43X would be way off at the bottom. I was never so happy to sell a gun.

The 26 G5 I had for a while, I admit I probably should have kept longer. With 12 round OEM mags, I found I could just as well carry my G19, so I did. Nothing against the gun, though. I've held them in the LGS since, and remember the same feeling I had with my P30SK LEM, curling my pinky finger under the grip is strangely unappealing to me, not sure why.

[GJM]

This echos my experience almost exactly.

I never liked shooting my 43X; nothing helped, Apex kit, Talon rubber, Lenny's magic guide rod, whatever.

To me, in terms of comfort, my ranking would be 48 and 365XL about the best, then the 365X, followed by the 365. The 43X would be way off at the bottom. I was never so happy to sell a gun.

The 26 G5 I had for a while, I admit I probably should have kept longer. With 12 round OEM mags, I found I could just as well carry my G19, so I did. Nothing against the gun, though. I've held them in the LGS since, and remember the same feeling I had with my P30SK LEM, curling my pinky finger under the grip is strangely unappealing to me, not sure why.

If you step back to the 45,000 foot level, you could just as easily say “I prefer shooting larger guns more than smaller guns,” because that’s what your preference ranking indicates. If you threw it into the mix, I bet you would say that you disliked shooting a Glock 43 more than any of these, which would not be surprising giving it is thinner. When I went back and reviewed my small gun testing, I found that installing the Talon brand pro grip decal dramatically improved my comfort, shooting the smaller guns. Did you have one on your 43X and 365?

Interestingly, on the 25 yard group shooting and B8 drill, all the guns did more or less equally well, with the exception of the HK that did not do as well at 25 yard groups. The Hellcat was quite a bit faster for me yesterday on the B8 drill, and I will need to explore whether that was a one off performance, a reflection of just getting better at doing those B8 drills over time, or something special about the Hellcat.

[Paul Blackburn]

The Shield Plus is often touted as having lighter recoil but for some reason is not as popular?

[Navin Johnson]

The Shield Plus is often touted as having lighter recoil but for some reason is not as popular?

I don't think it is necessarily lighter but has longer recoil dwell (spread out over more time feeling) It's like 147's vs hot 124's in a given platform. I much prefer the impulse of the 147's

The Shield Plus torques less than the others and in general is much more controllable with less than ideal grip and stance and conditions for me

If you look in the carry semi auto poll there is quite a few Shield's listed (I was surprised due to 365 love here)

[revchuck38]

I find the 43X slightly more comfortable to carry because it is thinner, but the 26 conceals better because of how short it is in the grip.

If someone finds the 43X to be uncomfortable to shoot, they should install a Talon brand pro model decal, and shoot the pistol again before making any decisions. That Talon decal also made an enormous difference for me with the straight 43.

I don't have a 43 or 26, but I have their Walther equivalents, the PPS and P99C. I can confirm George's comments on the Talon decals. I have the standard ones on both PPSs, and a standard and a Pro on the P99Cs (coincidentally, the Pro is on the one I bought from George). None were uncomfortable to shoot before adding the decals, but they're way more controllable with them, especially the 99C with the Pro.

[RJ]

If you step back to the 45,000 foot level, you could just as easily say “I prefer shooting larger guns more than smaller guns,” because that’s what your preference ranking indicates. If you threw it into the mix, I bet you would say that you disliked shooting a Glock 43 more than any of these, which would not be surprising giving it is thinner. When I went back and reviewed my small gun testing, I found that installing the Talon brand pro grip decal dramatically improved my comfort, shooting the smaller guns. Did you have one on your 43X and 365?

Interestingly, on the 25 yard group shooting and B8 drill, all the guns did more or less equally well, with the exception of the HK that did not do as well at 25 yard groups. The Hellcat was quite a bit faster for me yesterday on the B8 drill, and I will need to explore whether that was a one off performance, a reflection of just getting better at doing those B8 drills over time, or something special about the Hellcat.

No, no Talon pro; rubber, yes, but not pro. I just put a pro on my current G48 MOS, seeing your suggestion. Have not shot it yet. As it is, stock, I went through 100 rounds in my first session including +p without really noticing the recoil, at all. Which is how I remember my first one.

Copy the thoughts on the 43. I will rent one first, and if it's too unpleasant, will keep carrying my LCR for that role. Thanks for the heads up.

I disagree with the premise of "larger guns" being applicable here. While it is 100% correct that shooting my all-steel 1911 is the most "comfortable", on the continuum of thin flat guns, the thread topic is very specific: "G43X vs. G48". My memory of discomfort with my Glock 43X was that it was by far the worst among the "small" category. (I drew a retort with a previous description that it was "sharper than a vindictive ex-wife". :cool:)

After having a number of small 9mm guns in rapid succession (at least 1x year, the last several years, I'd have to count them up) I like shooting. A gun that gets carried, I need to practice with. If practice sucks because the gun isn't fun to shoot, well, I don't have a lot of patience on a good day, so I'll get rid of it as soon as practicable. That's what happened with the 43x.

I would add I forgot to include my Walther PPS M2 into the mix. It was my carry for my first "real" training class, a 1:1 session with this dude named Gabe White in Oregon. I eventually sold it on because it had limited capacity, was heavy relative to rounds on board, and being a lefty, carrying AIWB the non-ambi mag release dis-engaged a mag at least twice while I was carrying it, turning it into a one-shot, which I felt was no bueno. It was very comfortable to shoot, however, and always worked.

[GJM]

I don't have a 43 or 26, but I have their Walther equivalents, the PPS and P99C. I can confirm George's comments on the Talon decals. I have the standard ones on both PPSs, and a standard and a Pro on the P99Cs (coincidentally, the Pro is on the one I bought from George). None were uncomfortable to shoot before adding the decals, but they're way more controllable with them, especially the 99C with the Pro.

I really like the Talon decals on the smaller pistols, but once you get up to Glock 19 size, I think it adds enough thickness that they may not be a positive anymore.

[AZ6K]

So my 2 cents.

Have had or do have Shield 1.0, G43, G48, G43x, P365's, G19, and G26 . . .

Still have the Shield and the G43 - don't carry either because of capacity - did go with the Magguts for the G43 for carry and it has been reliable, also have the older TT +2 bases for my spare mags, although at 8 rounds the gun is about as long in the grip as the G43x's. I would note the the Shield had noticeably less recoil than the G43, enough to at least think buying a Shield Plus to test out.

Sold the G48's (had like 3 of them) due to the barrel length as it would dig into my butt especially when sitting making it uncomfortable to carry all the time. That said I carry at 8:30/9:00 as I am a left hander.

Went to the G43x's - like the gun but would like more capacity - easier to carry with the shorter slide/barrel - have had no success with either of the aftermarket 15 round mags so stick with the OEM 10 rounders. I don't really notice the recoil but since I can get to the range pretty much anytime I don't do more than 100-150 rounds per trip. Two of the 3 of these have Holosun optics on them, one has Ameriglo Trooper night sights.

P365's - drank the Cool-Aid a couple of years ago - still have 4 - all the P365/P365x configurations (no XL's) - short slide and barrel. 3 have Wilson grip modules (with Hogue rubber overgrips) and 1 has a Wilson X Macro short module. 3 of the 4 have Holosun optics. I feel that these have a little more recoil than the G43x's but nothing that gives me any pause. Been carrying the P365 exclusively for 18 months or so. I was using the one base p365 as a dog walking gun, but recently decided to give the .32 H&R magnum a spin - have the Ruger and like it for what it is - ended up selling that p365 gun to my son.

G26 is a Gen 5 not cut for optic - dusted it back off with all the Sig drama going on - was surprised how easy it is to carry. Use a pinky extension or a Gee plate mag base - like the little pinky extension as it seems to give a better purchase when drawing. Carry a 15 round G19 mag as a spare. Now thinking about buying a Gen 5 MOS with a GSSF coupon I have. I really like the ambi slide release setup on the Gen 5 guns. Also to note that I do not switch the mag release - ever since day 1 shooting I have leaned to activate the mag release with my left hand middle finger so I leave well enough along as to not confuse the lizard brain. Going to give the G26 a serious go - I do better with single handed shooting with this gun as well - not worth a crap single handed with the p365's especially. This will also give me compatibility as I have a G22 and G27 that I use for woods carry at the cabin using Lost River's ammo.

As far as the Talon grips go - I have been using the rubber ones on most all my guns that I don't have the Hogue over grips on. I did try the Pro texture - like it for shooting more than the rubber - the problem is that it tends to catch on my Cabela's and Duluth performance fabric tshirts that have a waffle weave to them. I tried taking a Dremel with a Scotchbrite type of roll to the outboard side to try to smooth it out a bit, but they still catch on the shirts, so back to the rubber I go.

I am a certified Glock armorer and a mechanical engineer so I do like the simplicity of the Glock design, and the little fiddly parts of the P365 FCU make me a bit nervous. We will see how the G26 goes as it is definitely softer shooting that either the G43x and the P365.

Also note that I am 6'3", 195lbs so it is easier for me to hide the slightly bigger gun. I do like the G26 for carry over the G19 due to the shorter grip as it does not print when carrying. And since I live in AZ I spend a lot of time in untucked tshirts so I have to be cognizant of printing when I carry.

Again, my 2 cents, and has been said many times - YMMV

[RJ]

So my 2 cents...
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Like.

[D-der]

I picked up a 48 yesterday, got home, ran a couple patches through the bore,
looked it over, added a little Lucas extreme to the copper stuff, ran out and
put a quick 75rd's of 124gr Lawman through it in the rain to test function.
Out of the box the bore was dirty and the slide and rails were pretty much
lacking lube except a very small amount of the Glock copper stuff.
The trigger's decent and getting better, accurate but was hitting a little left
from POA but it was likely me as I seldom shoot open sights any more and
to me these sights suck. Last night I dug out an old Shield SMSC (pre Holosun)
and direct mounted and laser sighted it. I went out late this morning, in the rain
again with an allen wrench to zero and get a better idea of how it shoots....
SOB, first shot hit center of a 1" dot at 25' and continued to do so and was hitting
a 10" plate at 25yds so I ran another 75rds and never bothered to adjust it further.
It's slim, slippery and snappy but a good shooter so I guess I'll try some Talon
grip tape, put a real dot on it and put an order in with Tony for a 2.5 so I can
give it a fair shake out comparison. Is it safe to assume a DPP plate would be
best to mount a 407K?

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[RJ]

Is it safe to assume a DPP plate would be best to mount a 407K?


Congrats on the new gat.

I ordered a DPP Aluminum for my 48+407k three days ago:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09G9VVYLB?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

[newyork]

Have 48s with dots been reliable and late? I know they weren’t a ways back.

[GJM]

I posted about this in more detail in the small gun thread, but I shot one 50 yard freestyle group with 124 gold dot with my new 43X this afternoon.

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[Kanye Wyoming]

I posted about this in more detail in the small gun thread, but I shot one 50 yard freestyle group with 124 gold dot with my new 43X this afternoon.

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Strong hand only and maybe I’d be impressed.

[WobblyPossum]

I posted about this in more detail in the small gun thread, but I shot one 50 yard freestyle group with 124 gold dot with my new 43X this afternoon.

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You’re basically a human ransom rest. That’s the kind of group I’d expect to see at some kind of bullseye championship match.

[revchuck38]

I posted about this in more detail in the small gun thread, but I shot one 50 yard freestyle group with 124 gold dot with my new 43X this afternoon.

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Friggin' kids...

[GJM]

Lots of luck was involved in this group.

[revchuck38]

"Chance favors the prepared man."
- Louis Pasteur (I think)

[Joe Mac]

Lots of luck was involved in this group.

I'm never quite that "lucky"... Today with one of my 43Xs, I put five 124+P into 1.5" in the IPSC head box at 10 yards.

Well done, sir.

[Clusterfrack]

"Chance favors the prepared man."
- Louis Pasteur (I think)

Here's what I have in my quote notes:

"Chance favors the prepared mind"
-Louis Pasteur 1854

[revchuck38]

Here's what I have in my quote notes:

"Chance favors the prepared mind"
-Louis Pasteur 1854

Hey, I was close, considering my geezer memory! :)

[jlw]

For those of you referencing malfunctions with the 48 and 43X with optics, please be very specific.

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When they were initially released, I chose the 48 over the 43X as I wanted a 10-round analog of my G19 for travel. I shunned the aftermarket 10+ mags as they defeated the purpose of my having the 48. In limited testing, I found that I dropped roughly 16% in performance when going from the 19 to the 48; so, if capacity wasn't an issue, I carried the 19.

I took on of my 48s on a teaching trip in CO recently as I don't currently have a G19 without sentimental attachment.

I enjoyed shooting it, and now I am contemplating a 48 or 43X with a COA.

[GJM]

Mitch reported reliability problems with his 43X with the new COA optic with full power mainstream JHP loads. I don't believe he did it, but it would have been interesting if he removed the optic to see if that cured the reliability problems. The COA weighs 1.7 ounces which is more than a 407K but less than an Acro. I have multiple 43X guns with a 407K with perfect reliability. Hopefully those forum members who are using a Glock slim line with a COA will report on their reliability so far.

[HCM]

Mitch reported reliability problems with his 43X with the new COA optic with full power mainstream JHP loads. I don't believe he did it, but it would have been interesting if he removed the optic to see if that cured the reliability problems. The COA weighs 1.7 ounces which is more than a 407K but less than an Acro. I have multiple 43X guns with a 407K with perfect reliability. Hopefully those forum members who are using a Glock slim line with a COA will report on their reliability so far.

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My buddy bought his wife a G43X with COA (without her input) for Valentine’s Day.

Both of them have experienced multiple malfunctions with a variety of ammunition including 124 grain +P Gold Dot.

I shot the gun this past Saturday and experienced the above failures to eject with Norma Black 115 grain and IMI 115 JHP though it ran fine with Blazer Brass 115 grain. This was with the factory 10 round magazine and no light or laser etc on the gun.

[RJ]

@HCM was the RSA in that 43X one of the new 1-1-1 stamped ones? That seems awkward a new 43X+COA would have issues. No fouling of the EDP channel with a protruding screw hopefully.

@GJM By chance do you know the weight of a 407k?

[GJM]

@HCM was the RSA in that 43X one of the new 1-1-1 stamped ones? That seems awkward a new 43X+COA would have issues. No fouling of the EDP channel with a protruding screw hopefully.

@GJM By chance do you know the weight of a 407k?

1.0 ounce

[GJM]

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My buddy bought his wife a G43X with COA (without her input) for Valentine’s Day.

Both of them have experienced multiple malfunctions with a variety of ammunition including 124 grain +P Gold Dot.

I shot the gun this past Saturday and experienced the above failures to eject with Norma Black 115 grain and IMI 115 JHP though it ran fine with Blazer Brass 115 grain. This was with the factory 10 round magazine and no light or laser etc on the gun.

For science, if you could pull the optic, I would love to know if it ran. If this is a pattern, someone on the development team has some 'splaining to do.

[Beat Trash]

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My buddy bought his wife a G43X with COA (without her input) for Valentine’s Day.

Both of them have experienced multiple malfunctions with a variety of ammunition including 124 grain +P Gold Dot.

I shot the gun this past Saturday and experienced the above failures to eject with Norma Black 115 grain and IMI 115 JHP though it ran fine with Blazer Brass 115 grain. This was with the factory 10 round magazine and no light or laser etc on the gun.

Is it safe to assume that the issues were occurring with both magazines?

[Mitch]

Yeah, I wish I could be more help but I never tried the 43X COA without the optic. The appeal to me was having an off the shelf ready to go option, and since that didn’t seem to be the case I didn’t troubleshoot it.

I’ve had another 43X and 48 both without optics that ran, but those are separate guns so I can’t definitely say it was the optic even though that’s my belief.

[ssb]

I have a G48 COA with, as of this posting, 1153 rounds through it. It has been exclusively used with Gen 3 Shield Arms magazines and a current production Shield Arms magazine release.

Out of the box the pistol was not reliable. I experienced three failures to eject similar in nature to those photographed by HCM. They occurred at a rate of approx. 1/50 rounds on a new, clean and lubed gun. In general, the gun felt sluggish - similar to my late 2023 G48 MOS (which I returned to Glock due to a string of FTEs). The gun also failed to return to battery fully, leading to a click instead of a bang, with 147gr HST. That HST load had proven problematic in my other 48 MOS.

Before sending the old gun to Glock, I replaced the trigger bar on a lark and noticed the sluggishness disappeared. As an experiment, I swapped the 48 COA upper to a known good G43X lower. My problems disappeared. That gun had an APEX trigger bar installed. As I didn’t feel like giving my gun to Glock for 4-6 weeks, I did some part swapping myself as I had spares for most of what I needed on hand. I swapped:

Trigger bar (to APEX)
Trigger housing/ejector assembly
Firing pin safety
Recoil spring (to a 15lb spring)
Back plate (to a SCD)

My gun then went about 900 rounds without a stoppage, which was a marked difference from that first initial range session. I have had one failure to feed that I am not sure what to attribute to (could be mags, could have been improper grip, could be a dirty gun, could be a weak spring - it occurred SHO and my draw felt off). I have since replaced the 15lb spring with the OEM spring which came in the gun (I think it’s marked 1-1-1) but I have not had the opportunity to get to the range since switching.

When I sent my other 48MOS to Glock to make them fix it, they replaced the firing pin safety, back plate, and trigger bar.

I am no expert but my strong suspicion is that the slide can be slowed down by the interaction between the firing pin safety and the trigger bar, and there is a tolerance stacking issue involved.

Edit: I also wanted to clarify that since the parts swap, the gun fed 65 147gr HST without issue. The sluggishness in cycling I described has gone away.

[Leroy Suggs]

ssb you are right about the trigger bar.
On some slims the trigger bar rubs on the frame. Those guns are going to be subject to malfunction.

There should be a small space between the trigger bar and the frame.
Those guns should run ok.

You can see the little gap on a properly fitted trigger bar.

[Bucky]

I find it extremely difficult to believe that Glock made the "the biggest capacity, reliable mag they could for the gun" when they decided to just do a single stack mag; consider how many other guns from well-established manufacturers that have grips the same size or smaller be able to fit more rounds into the magazine (CC9 is shorter with the 10 round mag, the Shield Plus is shorter with a 10 round mag, the Hellcat is shorter with an 11 round mag, the P365 is shorter with a 10 round mag).
.

Glock seems hell bent on not making a traditional steel bodied magazine, so it’s not that they can’t, but they won’t.

[GJM]

Glock seems hell bent on not making a traditional steel bodied magazine, so it’s not that they can’t, but they won’t.

A higher capacity magazine that would hold 15 in the 43X, and 10 in a 43, would be extremely well received by the market.

[Beat Trash]

If Glock would ship the 43 with a OEM factory magazine that held 10rds, I feel the increase in sales for the 43 would reward their straying into the brave new world of metal magazines.

[Navin Johnson]

Glock seems hell bent on not making a traditional steel bodied magazine, so it’s not that they can’t, but they won’t.

Possibly they don't want to kill their own products ( what would happen to the 19 if the 43x/48 held 15 rounds? Most people just want capacity and don't care about shootability.... or reliability for that matter)

It's my understanding Glock sells every gun they can make.....

[psalms144.1]

A higher capacity magazine that would hold 15 in the 43X, and 10 in a 43, would be extremely well received by the market.I wonder if MecGar could make those, with the "rounded" notch that they used on their current Glock magazines (not requiring an aftermarket mag catch).

[D-der]

Possibly they don't want to kill their own products ( what would happen to the 19 if the 43x/48 held 15 rounds? Most people just want capacity and don't care about shootability.... or reliability for that matter)

It's my understanding Glock sells every gun they can make.....

Just playing devil's advocate, I'd think people are buying g19's because they want a more substantial duty type 15 (+) rd gun, the buyers that want a LW 15rd gun are buying XL's, Hellcat Pro's etc., maybe a 15rd 43X / 48 would gain market share?

[WobblyPossum]

I wonder if MecGar could make those, with the "rounded" notch that they used on their current Glock magazines (not requiring an aftermarket mag catch).

Hopefully they show better reliability than their double stack Glock mags.

[Joe Mac]

Glock seems hell bent on not making a traditional steel bodied magazine, so it’s not that they can’t, but they won’t.

The resistance to that came from Gaston himself, according to some LE reps we grilled on the issue before he passed. They implied that we might see new higher capacity factory mags when he is no longer running the show, as he indeed was right until the end.

[GJM]

I wonder if MecGar could make those, with the "rounded" notch that they used on their current Glock magazines (not requiring an aftermarket mag catch).

I saw a video a few months back, where an employee of MecGar implied the 43X mags were in the pipeline.

[BPMan]

Seems as if the new Mec-Gar metal Glock mags have issues:

https://youtu.be/EPjmUHXZ_4Q?feature=shared

[GJM]

Seems as if the new Mec-Gar metal Glock mags have issues:

https://youtu.be/EPjmUHXZ_4Q?feature=shared

Hopefully the 43X version will be better. Getting a Glock 17/19 size magazine to work in the new staccato hd, and the wide range of Glock pistols and clones, is a tall order. Plus you have compatibility with extensions and magwells with the 17 mags. The slim line mags only need to work reliably in the 43X/48.

[Bucky]

A higher capacity magazine that would hold 15 in the 43X, and 10 in a 43, would be extremely well received by the market.


If Glock would ship the 43 with a OEM factory magazine that held 10rds, I feel the increase in sales for the 43 would reward their straying into the brave new world of metal magazines.

Judging by the aftermarket mags, they likely couldn't do a flush 10 in the current 43. Certainly a chopped 43X to 43 grip length would work, as is being done on the aftermarket side. Then Glock would have decide if it’s going to triple down on its X naming conventions. ;) (Seiously, don’t. Just call it a 50 or whatever. )

If Glock does that, put me down for 2!

[Bucky]

Possibly they don't want to kill their own products ( what would happen to the 19 if the 43x/48 held 15 rounds? Most people just want capacity and don't care about shootability.... or reliability for that matter)

It's my understanding Glock sells every gun they can make.....

A sale is a sale. If they sell a 48 instead of a 19, they still made a sale. If the sell a 43X over someone buying a P365, that’s a new sale they otherwise wouldn’t have made.

There is no way they are going to kill sales of the G19, one of the most popular handguns out there.

[Navin Johnson]

I would like to see Glock focus on the slim series running +p/147's like a 19 does (first) rather than raising capacity

[D-der]

I'm 300 rd's into my 48, It's accurate and functions been 100%. Ammo so far has mostly been 124gr lawman, some 124gr S&B as well as a mag each of 147gr Lawman TMJ flat nose, 147gr HST and 124gr Gold Dot +P. Not a large sample size of 147's or +P but my stock of these is low and I wanted to confirm the gun would at least get through a sampling prior to mounting a Holosun, which it did, like a champ. The RSA is marked 1 1 1
I'm currently running a pre K series Shield sight that i had on a shelf. My 407 and DPP plate should come in this week, then the vetting will continue. Im starting to think I ignored Glock's for way to long.

[Leroy Suggs]

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[azant]

I have a new G48 with a Holosun EPS mounted on a DPP Titanium plate. In addition to over 150 rounds of ball, it has been reliable with nearly 200 rounds of Hornady Critical Duty 135 +P, Winchester RA9BA 124+P, and Winchester RA9TP 124+P. I will be updating the progress on it over on Stephen A. Camp's Hi Powers and Handguns if you get interested in a little more detail.

P-F is responsible for me putting a Rapid Engineering backstrap on it. I had been looking at them but when I saw positive reports from here, I jumped on it. It does not point exactly right for me, compared to a 1911 but it is close enough.

25 yard standing unsupported group on the left with Hornady and 40 yard supported group on the right with Atlanta Arms. (edited to "caption the picture")

[GJM]

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[revchuck38]

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+1!