Ameriglo I-Dot or Trijicon HD

[JV_]

I need a set of new sights for a Gen4 17.

I'm willing to put some time behind sights that I've not been fond of, which is based on a limited exposure, something with a fatter front sight. I'm down to the Ameriglo I-Dot or Trijicon HD. Other than the 2 dot vs 3 dot preferences, I'm interested to hear experienced opinions of about these two sights.

FWIW: For me, the Ameriglo's are $25 cheaper than the Trijicons.

[Tamara]

While having no actual trigger time on the HDs, I will say that the i-Dots on my M&P changed my life. I spend a lot less time hunting for the sight and am also a lot less likely to have it in the wrong place when I pull the trigger. I am more popular, have had better luck growing tomatoes in the garden, and my phone bills have been cut in half.

"Seeing the sight lift" was kind of a maybe-sorta sometimes thing before, for me. :o

[orionz06]

I wouldn't look past the CAP front with an I-dot rear. Call Ameriglo and Rick will get you set up.

[ST911]

I don't think I've ever seen the I-Dot in person. I would like to try a set.

I do have HDs, trigger time on various Glocks equipped with them, and others in the hands of students and officers. They are rapidly acquired, sufficiently precise, and bright enough without being overpowering. They force an emphasis on the front sight, but not a dominance you can't look past. This is especially handy with new/novice shooters struggling with that aspect of shooting. More mature shooters and others who struggle with focal issues also like the front sight size and visibility. The HD is currently my favored handgun fighting sight.

Others may be viable, and I defer to others for direct comparisons.

[Sparks2112]

The edge on the ameriglo rear is sharp enough to draw blood. Ask me how I know... I like the hd's. wish they'd do a yellow rear.

[JV_]

Thanks everyone.


The edge on the ameriglo rear is sharp enough to draw blood. Ask me how I know... I like the hd's. wish they'd do a yellow rear.

I'm tired of getting poked with my Warrens....

[JM Campbell]

I like my HDs on my M&P, I do tend to shoot low at times though. YMMV

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[Sparks2112]

Thanks everyone.



I'm tired of getting poked with my Warrens....

The time I twisted and bent at the same time and discovered a slice through my undershirt and my side did it for me. In fairness it's easy to blunt the edge with a file and a stone then cold blue it. I like stuff to just work though.

[JV_]

In fairness it's easy to blunt the edge with a file and a stone then cold blue it. I like stuff to just work though.I generally try to avoid deburring sights because I find cold blue insufficient for rust prevention. I had Heinie open up some sights for me, they used cold blue to touch it up, and it rusted. I like melonite on sights.

I also prefer stuff that just works.

[Matt O]

I wouldn't look past the CAP front with an I-dot rear. Call Ameriglo and Rick will get you set up.

I thought the I-Dot rear needed a .220 height front sight. Wouldn't the CAP front make it shoot way high?

[EVP]

I'm tired of getting poked with my Warrens....


I agree. It started to aggravate and piss me off everytime I would feel the sharp edge dig in. Loved the sight picture though.


I say give the HDs a try.



I wanna give HDs a shot on an m&p 5 inch gun but don't think they make the correct front sight height needed.

[NETim]

Who installs tritium tubes in 10-8 rear sights?

[Tamara]

The time I twisted and bent at the same time and discovered a slice through my undershirt and my side did it for me.

*coughShirtguardcough* ;)

[Up1911Fan]

Who installs tritium tubes in 10-8 rear sights?

Are you asking who here has had it done? Tooltech (Trijicon) does the actual install.

[JBP55]

I like the Ameriglo Pro Glo front with the Pro Operator yellow rear. The I Dot Pro set up is a good set up for those that prefer only 2 dots. Both work well for racking the slide.
As someone stated earlier you can not mix the I Dot front or rear with the other Ameriglo sights as the I Dot's are much taller.

[orionz06]

I thought the I-Dot rear needed a .220 height front sight. Wouldn't the CAP front make it shoot way high?

I believe they make two heights for that front.

[NETim]

Are you asking who here has had it done? Tooltech (Trijicon) does the actual install.


Yeah, I guess I wasn't clear. I was wondering if a shop somewhere installed the vials.

[Tamara]

Yeah, I guess I wasn't clear. I was wondering if a shop somewhere installed the vials.

The NRC is apparently really fussy about letting Greasy Joe's Dixie Bar & Grill and Part-Time Gunsmithing Shack work with tritium.

So far as I know, no matter who you send it to, they just send it to Tooltech.

[NETim]

The NRC is apparently really fussy about letting Greasy Joe's Dixie Bar & Grill and Part-Time Gunsmithing Shack work with tritium.

So far as I know, no matter who you send it to, they just send it to Tooltech.

They have to justify their existence somehow.

Wait until the Biden Commission learns that some guns incorporate nuclear devices!!

[DanH]

They have to justify their existence somehow.

Wait until the Biden Commission learns that some guns incorporate nuclear devices!!

I sense a strange disturbance in the force, as if a million Democrats instantly reached orgasm...

[JHC]

The HD is currently my favored handgun fighting sight.

Others may be viable, and I defer to others for direct comparisons.

Current favorite here too. I've used the Ameriglo Hack front sight (.220 tall) also and prefer the HD front for reasons Todd explained when he rotated from them to the HD for a spell with the Glock.

[SGT_Calle]

I sense a strange disturbance in the force, as if a million Democrats instantly reached orgasm...

This comment made my morning!

I just received a set of HDs for my Gen4 G17, can't wait to get the stock sights off and these on. No prior experience with them though.

[Tamara]

Where are you people getting HDs? The main reason I went with the I-Dot Pros was that the internet was out of stock on HDs.

Wait... Oh, look Brownells has them in stock now. Story of my life.

Oh, well, I'm probably not a good enough shooter to tell the difference anyway. :o

[JMS]

I'm tired of getting poked with my Warrens....

Man, I coulda gone the rest of my life without reading that. Now I'm conscious of the Warrens on Thing1 digging me a bit, versus the Ameriglos on Thing2....

You big jerk! :cool:

[JV_]

You big jerk! :cool::p

[JSGlock34]

I have the Trijicon HD sights in yellow on my G17. I'm finding these new wide front sights with the bright photo luminescent rings very easy to pick up and a great improvement over the older white rings. They are my favorite sights.

I have an older set of Warren carry sights on my G34; I was hoping to see Warren offer a 'HD' style front sight. In the meantime, I've paired an AmeriGlo Hackathorn orange front sight with the Warren rear, and I've been pleased with the combination. Still, I remain tempted to also install a set of HD sights on the 34, as the Warren rear notch is a bit narrow for use the wider HD sight.

Interestingly, Arclight recently purchased a new GEN3 G17 and to my surprise, it came with factory installed Ameriglo CAP sights. I'm not sure if Glock is now offering the CAP as an option or if these were a special run for a particular distributor. Still, it is good to see Glock offering a hi-vis option, as for the longest time I've only seen Glocks come from the factory with either the cheap plastic sights or a (Glock or Trijicon) three dot.

I have to say that in comparison to the yellow Trijicon HD and the orange Ameriglo Hack, the lime green CAP front sight was the brightest and easiest to pick up (though all three sights are very visible) at this particular indoor range. To be fair, the CAP sights were also brand new.

[bzuber56]

Just installed a set of HD's with orange on my .40 Pro and love them. Front sight acquisition is no problem at all. If they prove out I will be installing them on my Pro 9 5" for IDPA. Got mine from Grag-A-Gun for 140 smacks. Manventure Outpost also had them

[EVP]

Just installed a set of HD's with orange on my .40 Pro and love them. Front sight acquisition is no problem at all. If they prove out I will be installing them on my Pro 9 5" for IDPA. Got mine from Grag-A-Gun for 140 smacks. Manventure Outpost also had them

Bzuber56 can you please report back with your findings with the HDs and the 9mm 5in gun? I am wondering if the sight height will work we'll with the 5 inch 9mm guns.

[texasplinker]

I have an m&p I am interested in putting a tritium proglo front with a subdued two dot tritium bowie tac operator. Does this found like a match made in heaven or a pair destined to fail? I am concerned that the front and rear may be different heights.

Thanks from a long time pt reader and ptf lurker.

[kodiakpb]

There is no discernible difference between an Ameriglo pro-glo front sight and a Trijicon HD sight, except the price. Ameriglo uses Trijicon inserts. The only difference between a set of HD's and a set of i-dot pros is the rear sight. Even then you can purchase custom combinations from Ameriglo (ie Hack, etc). They will also be cheaper (monetarily) than the HD's.

Ameriglo i-dot pros

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[EChryst]

I dig the HDs. I can pick up the Orange better than the yellow - which I'm sure all of you Orange nuts on here can dig. I also like the ledge rear sight instead of a slant.

I like the fact that there is "two sets" of sights. The Trijicon disappears during light - and its a generally solid black rear sight with an orange dot on the front, yet when the lights go out - the Trijicon shows itself.

I can only compare it to the Trijicons that came on my TRP, but I prefer the HDs much more.

[sparky-kb]

I'm pretty interested in the I-Dot Pro's but am having trouble deciding between the orange or lime green front. I've been using Big Dots so I think my eyes will be more accustomed to a lighter colored front so lime green is the direction I'm leaning. I love the visibility of the Big Dots but want something that will allow me to be a bit more ....precise. Since I am used to the light colored front and the dot the I setup of the Big Dots I'm hoping the lime green front 2 dot setup of the I-Dot Pro's will be an easy transition.

kodiakpb,

I see you have the I-Dots with both colored fronts. Which one seems to stand out the best across the broadest spectrum of lighting conditions? It seems to me that the orange would have an advantage in bright light such as sunlight or well lit indoor areas but the lime green would do better in lower light. Is that line of thinking close to how they perform? How does the lime green front do in average indoor lighting compared to the orange? Do you have any pictures of the sights side by side pointed at targets in different lighting conditions?

One last question....do cleaning solvents harm the sights by removing any of the color or anything like that? I read a comment somewhere on the net about the Trijicon HD's color being protected by a clear coat of sorts while the I-Dot Pro's could have their color "cleaned off" if they came in contact with cleaning solvents.

Sorry to bomb you with questions but you seem to have a nice collection of the sights I'm looking pretty hard at so I figured you would be a good source for info!

[kodiakpb]

[QUOTE=sparky-kb;110259

kodiakpb,

I see you have the I-Dots with both colored fronts. Which one seems to stand out the best across the broadest spectrum of lighting conditions? It seems to me that the orange would have an advantage in bright light such as sunlight or well lit indoor areas but the lime green would do better in lower light. Is that line of thinking close to how they perform? How does the lime green front do in average indoor lighting compared to the orange? Do you have any pictures of the sights side by side pointed at targets in different lighting conditions?

One last question....do cleaning solvents harm the sights by removing any of the color or anything like that? I read a comment somewhere on the net about the Trijicon HD's color being protected by a clear coat of sorts while the I-Dot Pro's could have their color "cleaned off" if they came in contact with cleaning solvents.

Sorry to bomb you with questions but you seem to have a nice collection of the sights I'm looking pretty hard at so I figured you would be a good source for info![/QUOTE]

Sparky,

Not a problem: I find the lime green/yellow to be the best under all lighting conditions. I have three more Glocks not shown above that also have yellow. I have since switched out the red proglo's above with lime green/yellow. There is a chart that I cannot find at the moment that shows different color spectrums. It shows that the human eye picks up on green better than red (analogy: green lasers vs. red lasers).

The ring on a proglo front sight is exactly the same as the ring on the HD. I have had no issue with cleaning it.

Here's what the ring looks like when it's charged...it's so bright the cell phone camera didn't pick up the tritium (Trijicon) in the first pic.

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old pic of lime green/yellow next to red.

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[sparky-kb]

Awesome, thanks kodiak! I've seen the chart or one similar to what you mentioned about so I know what you're talking about. Green/yellow were the most visible if I recall, just didn't know how well it translated to sight visibility in real life situations. Looks like it'll be lime green for me, you pretty much validated my thought process :D .

[kodiakpb]

Glad to help :)

[Pasanova]

What kind of long distance accuracy are you guys getting with these sights? Can you consistantly clear a plate rack or hit bowling pins at 25 yards with them?

Thanks.

[BobLoblaw]

I found that the red picks up better in an indoor environment with lighter walls (unless your walls are in the orange-red-pink color spectrum). I have both and they both work amazing. You can't go wrong with either.


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[ST911]

What kind of long distance accuracy are you guys getting with these sights? Can you consistantly clear a plate rack or hit bowling pins at 25 yards with them?

Yes. They allow good enough alignment that I can shoot plates at 25, and poppers at 50 and 100.

[RM686]

Have the Amerigo I dot orange on a Glock 19. Very nice sight except orange hard to pick up in low light conditions. Daylight absolutly fantastic. l Bought the Amerigo cap sights which were fantantic except could not get the front sight screw started and then loctie set up ruining sight. Sent it back for a refund.
I have decided to go with the Trijicon HD for my Sig P228 because of the rounded rear notch in rear sight. I am seriously considering the yellow because I can see a regular white dot sight much better than the orange in low indoor light. But I have seen posts where the yellow is hard to see in daylight around light colored objects or nature like trees .
All I know is the Hap sight inside the house at night just with low lamp light were the best.
Any one who has the yellow or have had both orange also could give me an opinion. These sights are way too expensive to be guessing at. By the way the Amerigo I dot at least in orange is NOT light sentive paint that will glow after being exposed to light. I dont know about the yellow but the orange sucks from transittioning from light into a dark room. Another reason for the HD trijicons.
All opinions welcome.

[RM686]

Have the Amerigo I dot orange on a Glock 19. Very nice sight except orange hard to pick up in low light conditions. Daylight absolutly fantastic. l Bought the Amerigo cap sights which were fantantic except could not get the front sight screw started and then loctie set up ruining sight. Sent it back for a refund.
I have decided to go with the Trijicon HD for my Sig P228 because of the rounded rear notch in rear sight. I am seriously considering the yellow because I can see a regular white dot sight much better than the orange in low indoor light. But I have seen posts where the yellow is hard to see in daylight around light colored objects or nature like trees .
All I know is the Hap sight inside the house at night just with low lamp light were the best.
Any one who has the yellow or have had both orange also could give me an opinion. These sights are way too expensive to be guessing at. By the way the Amerigo I dot at least in orange is NOT light sentive paint that will glow after being exposed to light. I dont know about the yellow but the orange sucks from transittioning from light into a dark room. Another reason for the HD trijicons.
All opinions welcome.

UPDATE
Have received the Trijicons HD yellow ring for my Sig P228. I like them very much and they are much easier to pick up in low light where you can see the yellow ring on the Sig but the ameriglo orange I dot on my Glock 19 you can not.
I like the Trijicons so much that I just ordred them in yellow for my Glock 19 . Another point about the Ameriglows is the rear sight is beveleved very weird on the sides so light hitting it from the sides results in a glar on the rear. I just dont like the shape of the rear sight. I noticed this at the range the rear sight looked lopsided when light from the side hits it. The trijicons for the sig have stright sides and are very crisp. The whole sight picture is very crisp vrs Ameriglow. The ones for the glock also apper to be crisp although shaped differently than the sigs. Beleive me I would not be laying out $130.00 more if I did not think it was worth it. If you have young eyes ymmv. I am over 60 so I need the best sight picture visiably wise in all light conditions.
I also find regular metrolight night sights eiser to see in low light than the ameriglows. In complite darkness they are all good and glow very brightly. In low light situtations brfore the tritium kicks in is what I am talking about.

[heyyouduh]

Question for you ppl with the HD (or similar) sights.

1. What is the width of the front sight and the rear notch?
2. I assume for speed shooting you guys are putting the front dot over the target as far as sight picture?
3. Do you guys still use a traditional "split the target with front blade" sight picture for slow/precision shooting?

I'm tempted to try something along the lines of Trij HD, currently have plain black iron sights on my guns and aim with the top of the front blade. I find this to be accurate, but slower than using the "line up the dots" approach, especially in less than perfect lighting.

[RM686]

Question for you ppl with the HD (or similar) sights.

1. What is the width of the front sight and the rear notch?
2. I assume for speed shooting you guys are putting the front dot over the target as far as sight picture?
3. Do you guys still use a traditional "split the target with front blade" sight picture for slow/precision shooting?

I'm tempted to try something along the lines of Trij HD, currently have plain black iron sights on my guns and aim with the top of the front blade. I find this to be accurate, but slower than using the "line up the dots" approach, especially in less than perfect lighting.

Have HD Trijicons on my Sig P228 Front .150 rear notch .165. sight front to rear 5.375
Glock 19 Front .150 rear notch .170 sight front to rear distance 5.75 inches
Both guns appear to have the same sight picture (equal space around front sight when looking thrugh rear sight.
Accorging to trijicon the sights are set up to hit poi and poa with dot of front sight on poi. Ameriglows are also set up this way.
I like the trijicons much better because of the u shaped rear notch. The Sights are very easy to line up. With all my sigs I had my sights set up like you with top of front sight set on poi. These are all carry guns so adjusting my sight picture I dont beleive will be a big deal. Also depending on the ammo this might not be necessary. I have a lot of testing to do. Hopes this info helps.

[heyyouduh]

Have HD Trijicons on my Sig P228 Front .150 rear notch .165. sight front to rear 5.375
Glock 19 Front .150 rear notch .170 sight front to rear distance 5.75 inches
Both guns appear to have the same sight picture (equal space around front sight when looking thrugh rear sight.
Accorging to trijicon the sights are set up to hit poi and poa with dot of front sight on poi. Ameriglows are also set up this way.
I like the trijicons much better because of the u shaped rear notch. The Sights are very easy to line up. With all my sigs I had my sights set up like you with top of front sight set on poi. These are all carry guns so adjusting my sight picture I dont beleive will be a big deal. Also depending on the ammo this might not be necessary. I have a lot of testing to do. Hopes this info helps.

Thanks, it does.

[EVP]

Just thought I would bump this thread and ask those with experience with Ameriglo CAPs (with a pro op rear) and Trijicon HDs on Glocks, which sight setup has the least sharp edges?

I carry AIWB without a undershirt and do not like how sharp Warrens Tacticals are.

[RM686]

Just thought I would bump this thread and ask those with experience with Ameriglo CAPs (with a pro op rear) and Trijicon HDs on Glocks, which sight setup has the least sharp edges?

I carry AIWB without a undershirt and do not like how sharp Warrens Tacticals are.

I had the Amerigos which were rounded at the edges whih I did not like at all. At the reage light comimg from the side glanced off the side and made the sight look lop sided because the other side was in the shade. I switch to the Trijicons HD which have a sharper edge but flat to side lighting. I swithched to Trijiocn on my Glock which had the ameriglows as well as my Sig P228. All my holsters IWB have body sheilds since I live in a warm humid climate FL. Is these sight were pressing against your skin I think their may be a problem. They do have sharp edges.

[ST911]

Just got some sets of I-Dot Pros for shake down, both orange and yellow fronts.

Mounted one set on my EDC G26 (gen4), and am seeing rounds start to climb out at 15yds (+1"), 25yds (+2"), give or take. Is this normal? Shooting AE 124 FMJ, Speer Lawman 115 FMJ, Speer GDHP 124.

[RM686]

Just got some sets of I-Dot Pros for shake down, both orange and yellow fronts.

Mounted one set on my EDC G26 (gen4), and am seeing rounds start to climb out at 15yds (+1"), 25yds (+2"), give or take. Is this normal? Shooting AE 124 FMJ, Speer Lawman 115 FMJ, Speer GDHP 124.

I would call the company. I had them on nmy G19 with no problems shooting at 10 meter range or 33 feet poi =poa

[ST911]

I would call the company. I had them on nmy G19 with no problems shooting at 10 meter range or 33 feet poi =poa

Thanks for the reply. I was shooting POA at 7 and 10yds without a problem with the loads I had, and the 15/25 result seemed odd. I was tickled to death that I was shooting well enough to discern a small POI deviation at 15 and 25 today, but haven't ruled out that it may be me that was off. I see most other posts on POI deviations are with larger Glocks, not the subcompacts.

[JMS]

My replacement set of Ameriglo SW-201s....the rear sight just snapped itself off in mid-string, today. Dovetail's still in place, the rest just sheared right the hell off.

First set, the painted disc started to come free on the front; they replaced the set. Good on them, but now this....? I'm unwilling to give these guys another shot, so I'm gonna see how one of the Warren 1-dot rears works with it.

[Tamara]

My replacement set of Ameriglo SW-201s....the rear sight just snapped itself off in mid-string, today. Dovetail's still in place, the rest just sheared right the hell off.

First set, the painted disc started to come free on the front; they replaced the set. Good on them, but now this....?

Man, you're like, jinxed, or something. :eek:

[JMS]

SOMEthin'...

The moment-of-funny was that 1) it was the last round of the last string of the day, and 2) something hit my cheek and I thought "...the hell? I don't own Glocks..." :p

The thing that hit my face was the back end of the rear sight that'd sheared off.