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awp_101
04-12-2025, 10:41 AM
Browsing the website of a large internet firearms retailer who shall remain nameless (but rhymes with huns dot com), I ran across this picture:

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I had to enlarge it on my iPad to make sure I was seeing what I thought I was seeing and then had a good chuckle.

1slow
04-12-2025, 10:49 AM
Hand blocks optic.
Position seems sub optimal, both in terms of body posture and exposure past cover.

Paul D
04-12-2025, 01:02 PM
Weak hand shooting around corner? That makes the most sense to me.

167
04-12-2025, 03:52 PM
My guess would be he is running the light with the thumb on his right hand.

Totem Polar
04-12-2025, 04:50 PM
That’s just stupid.

titsonritz
04-12-2025, 06:11 PM
Weak hand shooting around corner? That makes the most sense to me.

My first thought.

entropy
04-12-2025, 06:28 PM
I want to see his hand after sending about a half dozen rounds out.

Le Français
04-12-2025, 06:30 PM
There aren’t a million ways to activate the light on that gun with your right hand. This technique would definitely affect rate of fire, and to see the dot on the target with your right eye (since your hand blocks the optic for your left eye), you’d have to stick your head out further than if the optic wasn’t occluded. But then again, it’s not like drywall is stopping any bullets anyway.

RevolverRob
04-12-2025, 07:57 PM
Let's get it clear:

If your choice is, "A funky ass grip, compromising recoil control and turning the gun single shot" or, "Opt for a different light setup" - Your option should be a new light.

Lon
04-12-2025, 08:04 PM
Weak hand shooting around corner? That makes the most sense to me.

That’s my guess as well.

Cory
04-12-2025, 08:06 PM
I've to a large extent quit caring about others subpar choices.

At the same time I willing to admit I don't know it all. Maybe in some really niche off hand, low light, injured shooter, single shell left, hostage shot, battlefield pick up, one off scenerio where you want to advance into a room with a shotgun instead of hold a room... maybe this is optimal. I mean... it doesn't look like it. But I'm staring at what could be a single moment to something larger. Sometimes it takes more than a thousand words to really understand.

But also... I really don't care if someone else does something I think is dumb.

DDTSGM
04-12-2025, 10:33 PM
Looks like someone got into some of their Dad's old MagPul videos.

Seriously, my first thought overall was that kind of looks like some hallway techniques a supposedly Israeli instructor taught.

Some students at a firearms instructor course demoed it and asked feedback, they second the guy had a name for it like 'kardovian crouch' or some such stuff. The concept they passed on was that there was a big sidestep out from the corner/doorway into the hall/room while at the same time lowering yourself via (in the picture's case) your right knee bending. The idea was that this got inside the OODA loop of someone in the room/hall and you shot them as they were still looking where you were.

When they demoed they ended up kind of spraddle-legged like the guy in the picture. Admittedly, it could have lost some detail as things often doo when someone tries to pass on what someone else taught, but the reason they asked was because they thought it was a little suspect.

Camera angles don't always allow you to see true to life, but it looks like the guys interior left thigh is pretty exposed, and his muzzle is slightly ahead of the corner (which makes it harder to get back in behind cover if your 'kardovian whatever' doesn't work.

What kind of light do we think it is - tail cap activated, pad activated, rocker switched activated...?

I really think it is a guy just modeling a stance with a pump shotgun that grabbed the forearm like he does his AR.

rob_s
04-14-2025, 06:12 AM
The dumbest thing about that picture is that any manufacturer would post it in the internet (at least without clear explanation) in this day and age. They have to know its gonna get sniped and picked apart by the online armchair commandos.

Regardless of whether its dumb or valid.

DamonL
04-14-2025, 07:45 AM
It looks like he is using an AR15 C-clamp grip. Not a good grip to work the pump-action if needed, but it works to activate the light. Also looks awkward for using the push-pull technique.