Who Else Got Bit by the Flux Raider?

[Screwball]

First and foremost… I am a huge anti-SIG P320 guy. Just was a platform I never desired to get into or felt was something that appealed to me. And me being from NJ with the crappy pistol permit system… a chassis system would have been a “That Was Easy” button. I tried the Echelon (I had high hopes, especially if Flux did something for it…), but sold it since the aftermarket wasn’t there, yet.

So, the SIG Legion Raider really caught my eye. I liked the compensated slide and the complete SIG package with the two 30 rounders. Only thing I didn’t like was the color and the whole Legion BS.

No idea why I did it, but was browsing Flux’s website for more info about it. I may have signed up for a restock notification. 8/9… I got an email that the FDE version was in stock. I’m not a huge FDE guy, either. But I ended up ordering it… with a decent discount ($500, shipped). Have to admit, Flux is definitely good to go… brace shipped within an hour or so.

Now what?!?

Started off with an FDE TLR-1HL that I had from my 1911 (P320 key really puts it against the not VFG). I picked up a basic FCU off GunBroker. Ordered an M17 slide, SIG Romeo 5 (if I don’t like it, I can put on my 10.5” AR9), an M18 kit and magazines so I’d have two of each of the following; 17, 21 and 30 rounders (all in FDE). I also just submitted the Form 1 for the FCU. I ordered the flush stock, which should be a direct swap for the brace. Found a guy in southern ME to do the engraving, which is easier than shipping to THSF.

I know what you may be thinking… if you don’t like the P320, why the M18 kit? I guess s***s and giggles… but also to allow me to use it as a traditional pistol. Figured I’d try it out, even though the Raider’s safety is what pushed me to jump down the rabbit hole.

Right now, I have the braced setup with FCU and red dot… M17 slide should be here tomorrow or Monday. Red dot appears to be perfect in regard to height. The brace deployment is just cool! I plan on sending it to Tactical Development for their RipStik. Have a left side safety delete coming, since that side bites my hand when switching to Fire. I was considering to suppress it, but heard a decent amount of heartburn related to suppressing the P320… so I’ll stick with an 18” OAL SBR.

I’ll get some pictures up once the slide gets here.

Anyone else get bit by this bug?

[HeavyDuty]

I checked these out before I picked up one of the limited run MP320 kits. The Flux Raider looks interesting in a giggles sort of way.

I have a guy in NH about 15 minutes from Portsmouth that does great laser engraving, SIG is the one who recommended him. Let me know if you want his contact info, he’s close to the SIG Academy Pro Shop in case you want to multitask.

Where are you planning on engraving? That’s been a challenge for me - there are several schools of thought on this. One is the FCU should be engraved, another is the chassis is what makes it a SBR so that should be what is engraved.

[G19Fan]

Have had a p320 flux. Great system and imo better than most of the other pcc on the market.

Sold mine but will be getting a p365 flux in a few months

I found a p320 flux only performs a little better for me vs a p365 tac ops out to about 50 yards. Past that the p320 flux def wins. Wasn't justified for me investing in thst system.

The p365 flux I am all in on

[Screwball]

Thanks for the offer. I’m using 1776 Laser Engraving… out of Waterboro, ME. Showed him the area, sent measurements and he said it shouldn’t be an issue.


Where are you planning on engraving? That’s been a challenge for me - there are several schools of thought on this. One is the FCU should be engraved, another is the chassis is what makes it a SBR so that should be what is engraved.

On the Raider, there is a cut right below the left side slide release. Putting my info there. It is the side opposite of the serial number and the SIG markings are inside the FCU, where the magazine is inserted. When I toss the FCU in a pistol grip, will be hidden.

Unfortunately, I don’t think engraving the Raider is an option. The FCU is what is listed on the Form 1, so need the info marked on that.

[WobblyPossum]

Unfortunately, I don’t think engraving the Raider is an option. The FCU is what is listed on the Form 1, so need the info marked on that.

I’m not sure if that’s correct. You can engrave things other than the lower receiver of an AR even though that’s the legal firearm and where the serial number is.

[Screwball]

I’m not sure if that’s correct. You can engrave things other than the lower receiver of an AR even though that’s the legal firearm and where the serial number is.

Here’s the NFA statue related to it…

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240817/a68a29e926b07a2780b3717c9fa0cb99.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240817/e22cdf2daf350950865fd9079fa4cce7.jpg

While you are correct that those engravings can be done elsewhere as stated in (a)(2), unless you are engraving on the barrel… I don’t think on the Raider works.

To not make another screenshot (unsure how Tapatalk would like that), this is the definition in the NFA that I feel kills the Raider being engraved…


Frame or receiver. That part of a firearm which provides housing for the hammer, bolt or breechblock and firing mechanism, and which is usually threaded at its forward portion to receive the barrel.

While the Raider houses the FCU, the FCU houses the fire control parts (Fire Control Unit). It has the serial number on it, which the part prior, (a)(1), states the FCU is the “frame or receiver.”

So in a similar logic, if I SBR a Beretta 92… I can just get the grips engraved, since they house the fire control parts?

That being said, I put the related statute up so people can decide on it for themselves. ARs in themselves are the cluster-f*** of anything related to receiver definitions, since the upper seems more likely the “frame or receiver” than the lower. For me, the FCU is the logical place to engrave, especially with the window on the Raider for it. Doing it elsewhere… I wouldn’t feel comfortable with it.

*Fixed the definition quote so it didn’t make my head hurt.

[TicTacticalTimmy]

If it were me I would definitely want the FCU engraved so you could potentially put it inside other chassis systems that may be available in the future.

[S Jenks]

I just sighted in my new Raider X with brace. It’s my first foray into the P320 ecosystem.

When first purchased there was an issue with mags not dropping free, they were binding with a scrape forming in the finish on the upper right rear corner. Three of the four P320 mags I have had to be pulled out of the mag well, making it pretty hard to use the quick mag change feature.

Flux said it was an issue with the tolerances of the FCU made by one of three subcontractors used by Sig. They sent me a shipping label and had my Raider X back to me in a few days.

150 rounds through it and so far so good. The mags now drop free like they should. Mine has a Holosun 403B and Surefire X300U-B attached. The slide and barrel are Brownells, and I installed the Tactical Development F10 top charging handle. I am thinking of some sort of linear comp to direct muzzle blast further away, but I have no experience with them and don’t know what I don’t know.

I went FDE with this. I’m going to paint the black Brownells slide to match and I’ll throw up a pic once it’s done.

If they could make a version that uses Glock magazines I’d be smitten. I’ve read Glock magazines are too wide at the top to fit in the opening of the FCU.

I have a P365 Raider that is on pre-order.

[WobblyPossum]

Here’s the NFA statue related to it…

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240817/a68a29e926b07a2780b3717c9fa0cb99.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240817/e22cdf2daf350950865fd9079fa4cce7.jpg

While you are correct that those engravings can be done elsewhere as stated in (a)(2), unless you are engraving on the barrel… I don’t think on the Raider works.

To not make another screenshot (unsure how Tapatalk would like that), this is the definition in the NFA that I feel kills the Raider being engraved…



While the Raider houses the FCU, the FCU houses the fire control parts (Fire Control Unit). It has the serial number on it, which the part prior, (a)(1), states the FCU is the “frame or receiver.”

So in a similar logic, if I SBR a Beretta 92… I can just get the grips engraved, since they house the fire control parts?

That being said, I put the related statute up so people can decide on it for themselves. ARs in themselves are the cluster-f*** of anything related to receiver definitions, since the upper seems more likely the “frame or receiver” than the lower. For me, the FCU is the logical place to engrave, especially with the window on the Raider for it. Doing it elsewhere… I wouldn’t feel comfortable with it.

*Fixed the definition quote so it didn’t make my head hurt.

A lot of the stuff we’ve got these days really doesn’t fit into these definitions written almost a hundred years ago. It might be worth contacting the company to see what their lawyers have figured out. There’s no way they didn’t look into this. Is the Raider chassis you got from Sig engraved with their info or is everything on the FCU?

I’ve been eying the P365 Raider so I’m always interested in people’s experiences with Flux’s products.

[G19Fan]

I just sighted in my new Raider X with brace. It’s my first foray into the P320 ecosystem.

When first purchased there was an issue with mags not dropping free, they were binding with a scrape forming in the finish on the upper right rear corner. Three of the four P320 mags I have had to be pulled out of the mag well, making it pretty hard to use the quick mag change feature.

Flux said it was an issue with the tolerances of the FCU made by one of three subcontractors used by Sig. They sent me a shipping label and had my Raider X back to me in a few days.

150 rounds through it and so far so good. The mags now drop free like they should. Mine has a Holosun 403B and Surefire X300U-B attached. The slide and barrel are Brownells, and I installed the Tactical Development F10 top charging handle. I am thinking of some sort of linear comp to direct muzzle blast further away, but I have no experience with them and don’t know what I don’t know.

I went FDE with this. I’m going to paint the black Brownells slide to match and I’ll throw up a pic once it’s done.

If they could make a version that uses Glock magazines I’d be smitten. I’ve read Glock magazines are too wide at the top to fit in the opening of the FCU.

I have a P365 Raider that is on pre-order.

I ran a 509T on mine and loved the form factor

[Screwball]

Is the Raider chassis you got from Sig engraved with their info or is everything on the FCU?

I did not get a Flux Legion… got an FDE Raider thru Flux.

That being said, the Raiders are identical minus the color and Legion markings. Both have the window on the left for the engraving to be seen thru the Flux housing. I’d think both Flux and SIG came up with that being the solution if someone Form 1s their FCU.

[Screwball]

So, I ordered an FDE single point bungee sling. Plan on running that on the main QD point… not the one on the brace/stock.

Also looking at a bag for it. Kind of leaning towards a Vertx Commuter Sling bag. Not going to be an everyday carry thing, maybe times when I’m not working and need some extra storage for stuff. Was also looking at an armor plate for it… but may be a down the road purchase.

[G19Fan]

So, I ordered an FDE single point bungee sling. Plan on running that on the main QD point… not the one on the brace/stock.

Also looking at a bag for it. Kind of leaning towards a Vertx Commuter Sling bag. Not going to be an everyday carry thing, maybe times when I’m not working and need some extra storage for stuff. Was also looking at an armor plate for it… but may be a down the road purchase.

I thought about the flux as a bag gun. Then realistically it did nothing special and I couldn't see the point of it as a bag gun given the size and caliber

The p365 version may be a real game changer

[Screwball]

I thought about the flux as a bag gun. Then realistically it did nothing special and I couldn't see the point of it as a bag gun given the size and caliber

The p365 version may be a real game changer

True… but my next sized SBR is noticeably larger.

Think my AR9 with the DOE upper comes in at like 24” OAL. PTR MP5 clone is 27ish”. Other ARs are in the 30” range. And my 14” 870 is 33”.

18” OAL Raider does make it shorter. Even if I don’t like it, I’ll likely keep it for the difference between it and other SBRs. And if I decide I really don’t like it… I can always do the B&T BWC without issue.

[HeavyDuty]

On the engraving location topic - I believe B&T has at least one P320 chassis is that has an engraving plate on the chassis.

As of this moment, I pretty much decided that if I Form 1 this I would engrave twice - once on the FCU which isn’t visible when mounted, and again on the aluminum of the chassis top shroud. I reached out to BATFE for guidance and was pretty much blown off.

[GyroF-16]

I reached out to BATFE for guidance and was pretty much blown off.

Of course- why would an enforcement agency want to help you determine how they will apply the relevant laws and regulations? That might tie their hands later. /sarc

[G19Fan]

True… but my next sized SBR is noticeably larger.

Think my AR9 with the DOE upper comes in at like 24” OAL. PTR MP5 clone is 27ish”. Other ARs are in the 30” range. And my 14” 870 is 33”.

18” OAL Raider does make it shorter. Even if I don’t like it, I’ll likely keep it for the difference between it and other SBRs. And if I decide I really don’t like it… I can always do the B&T BWC without issue.

It was more out to 50 yards the flux didn't do a ton more for me. Vs a p365xl macro I was ccwing

It was a tad faster over a 10 round string but I don't think that is a huge ccw consideration for me.

Flux is the best pcc though or one of the best

[Jimichanga]

I have a braced Raider that I travel with. No plans to buy a stock unless the law changes. Converted a police trade in x-carry I purchased for cheap. Full size Silencerco bbl, Herrington comp, light, AEMS and charging handle. 51 (30 and 21 mags) gold dots on board and I keep it in a small briefcase looking laptop bag that looks nothing like a gun case. Dumped a lot of ammo through it, easy to shoot and it runs. It replaced an mpx that I used to lug around.

Strengths

In and out of vehicles.
clearing structures - indoors you can cross threshold with gun mounted aimed in at deep corner with gear on. stupid compact
easy for "non-gun" wife and nephew to shoot it and hit shit that would be challenging for them with pistol



Considerations

It is not 100% with 124 gold dots/147 ranger and omega 9k. I purchased a spring kit that I will mess with when I have time but more of a novelty at this point.
pistol trigger on a pcc definitely different after shooting nice pcc/mpx trigger.



I am pleased with it so I bought a second one (blem) and another police trade in for nightstand.

[G19Fan]

I have a braced Raider that I travel with. No plans to buy a stock unless the law changes. Converted a police trade in x-carry I purchased for cheap. Full size Silencerco bbl, Herrington comp, light, AEMS and charging handle. 51 (30 and 21 mags) gold dots on board and I keep it in a small briefcase looking laptop bag that looks nothing like a gun case. Dumped a lot of ammo through it, easy to shoot and it runs. It replaced an mpx that I used to lug around.

Strengths

In and out of vehicles.
clearing structures - indoors you can cross threshold with gun mounted aimed in at deep corner with gear on. stupid compact
easy for "non-gun" wife and nephew to shoot it and hit shit that would be challenging for them with pistol



Considerations

It is not 100% with 124 gold dots/147 ranger and omega 9k. I purchased a spring kit that I will mess with when I have time but more of a novelty at this point.
pistol trigger on a pcc definitely different after shooting nice pcc/mpx trigger.



I am pleased with it so I bought a second one (blem) and another police trade in for nightstand.

Makes a lot.of sense nightsta d. That is where my p365 one will probably live

[Screwball]

Might have ordered an Herrington Arms HC320XL compensator… just need to get the barrel.

https://herringtonarms.com/collections/sig-comps/products/hc320xl-sig-p320-compensator?variant=41552907763883

Asked about in on Flux’s FB Owners Group… and someone recommended to dimple the barrel where the set screws go to keep it indexed better. Definitely going to give it a try.

[Spartan1980]

Been thinking about bag guns again lately. My use case lines up very nicely with Chris at Lucky Gunner for a "bag gun". I don't even want to think about touching off an unsuppressed 5.56 or .300BO inside my car. This checks off a whole lotta boxes for me. I'm on the notification list.

[Screwball]

Got the slide… installed, messed around with it… then boxed it up and shipped out for the charging handle install.

https://i.imgur.com/ukVq0gG.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/TqzzisI.jpeg

Really like the setup… minus racking the slide. Feels comfortable, likely better when the stock is swapped in. Can’t wait for the compensator, as it will get the slide out past the housing.

Bought a safety delete for the left side from Armory Craft on eBay. The left lever bites my hand when I move to fire. I’ll wait for the Flux one to come back in stock. This one was complete garbage.

The Tactical Dev forward operating pedal came back in stock for the left side. Ordered one, as I don’t want to do a rail on the sides.

Think that’s about it… holding off until I get the Form 1 back.

[G19Fan]

Got the slide… installed, messed around with it… then boxed it up and shipped out for the charging handle install.

https://i.imgur.com/ukVq0gG.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/TqzzisI.jpeg

Really like the setup… minus racking the slide. Feels comfortable, likely better when the stock is swapped in. Can’t wait for the compensator, as it will get the slide out past the housing.

Bought a safety delete for the left side from Armory Craft on eBay. The left lever bites my hand when I move to fire. I’ll wait for the Flux one to come back in stock. This one was complete garbage.

The Tactical Dev forward operating pedal came back in stock for the left side. Ordered one, as I don’t want to do a rail on the sides.

Think that’s about it… holding off until I get the Form 1 back.

For what it is worth I liked the top tactical development handle a lot more

The left side one makes discrete unde rather jacket carry very very uncomfortable if you ever may need that

[Screwball]

Form 1 came back today. Under 5 days, with a weekend. [emoji41]

Unfortunately, can’t do the engraving until tail end of September. But I should have the M18 kit and the M17 slide back by the time I qualify. Hopefully I can run it on the range on the downtime.


For what it is worth I liked the top tactical development handle a lot more

The left side one makes discrete unde rather jacket carry very very uncomfortable if you ever may need that

Function over comfort… I prefer bringing my left hand straight back to control the slide.

The top one may be more ambidextrous, but it would be a similar (right) hand movement if I was shooting weak side.

I did get a Viktos Upscale XL with an armor panel for pretty cheap. Probably going to be the main method of carry for the Raider.

[Archer1440]

“Not a VFG”…..

:rolleyes:

[nate89]

I've also been considering a flux of either the 320 or 365 variety. I started with a TP9, but really thinking about the cost to get it set up how I would want, it just wasn't worth it for me for the performance gain, plus there are several cons to the TP9 that made me question why I would make so many concessions on something that would end up being so expensive. I'm also no fan of the 320, but had the chance to shoot the flux 320 several times and I can't deny the utility. Even as a lefty I noticed little annoyances, but nothing deal-breaking (the stock/brace deployment and the rear mag release). Even with the higher cost I think I'm going to wait until I can find the 365 flux and go that route. While the 320 flux is already pretty small, the 365 is tiny, and I like the idea of it being inside a holster in a bag I'm carrying. I also like the optic being direct mounted to the slide vs on the chassis, which also reduces weight and bulk even more.

[G19Fan]

Form 1 came back today. Under 5 days, with a weekend. [emoji41]

Unfortunately, can’t do the engraving until tail end of September. But I should have the M18 kit and the M17 slide back by the time I qualify. Hopefully I can run it on the range on the downtime.



Function over comfort… I prefer bringing my left hand straight back to control the slide.

The top one may be more ambidextrous, but it would be a similar (right) hand movement if I was shooting weak side.

I did get a Viktos Upscale XL with an armor panel for pretty cheap. Probably going to be the main method of carry for the Raider.

True. I found the top one much more functional too but I don't like side chargers as a whole

[G19Fan]

I've also been considering a flux of either the 320 or 365 variety. I started with a TP9, but really thinking about the cost to get it set up how I would want, it just wasn't worth it for me for the performance gain, plus there are several cons to the TP9 that made me question why I would make so many concessions on something that would end up being so expensive. I'm also no fan of the 320, but had the chance to shoot the flux 320 several times and I can't deny the utility. Even as a lefty I noticed little annoyances, but nothing deal-breaking (the stock/brace deployment and the rear mag release). Even with the higher cost I think I'm going to wait until I can find the 365 flux and go that route. While the 320 flux is already pretty small, the 365 is tiny, and I like the idea of it being inside a holster in a bag I'm carrying. I also like the optic being direct mounted to the slide vs on the chassis, which also reduces weight and bulk even more.

The p320 flux can be direct mount too just need to dremel the top off

[HeavyDuty]

I have to admit the P365 model is intriguing.

[nate89]

The p320 flux can be direct mount too just need to dremel the top off

That is true. I haven't shot one modified like that before, but perhaps that's a middle ground.

[G19Fan]

That is true. I haven't shot one modified like that before, but perhaps that's a middle ground.

It works very well. Easy dremel too

[Screwball]

The p320 flux can be direct mount too just need to dremel the top off

Only issue is how low it is…

The Romeo5 on the rail is comfortable in the low mount. Peeking to see the irons can be done, but it is closer to jamming your face down on a SUB-2000 bolt tube.

I’m sure a slide mounted red dot would be in between the two… but I don’t have the desire to run it like that. Charging handle keeps the M17 slide from being used on a pistol. And for the M18 setup… I really don’t have the desire (unsure if I’ll even keep that grip/slide).

If I were using this with an issued M17/M18/P320 with a red dot… I could see chopping the top off.

[G19Fan]

The chop does have the optic low but the p365 version is just as low.

It does get scrunchy (both)

[HeavyDuty]

I’d love to handle a P365 braced version with a typical slide mounted RDS like a RomeoX Compact Enclosed. There are elegant features to the design like how the brace folds to protect a TLR7 lens. After my neck fusion my ability to turtle down is restricted.

[G19Fan]

I’d love to handle a P365 braced version with a typical slide mounted RDS like a RomeoX Compact Enclosed. There are elegant features to the design like how the brace folds to protect a TLR7 lens. After my neck fusion my ability to turtle down is restricted.

The p365 braced optic sits pretty low.

I don't have mine yet but have shot one for a few hundred rounds and it is scrunchy. I am also.shorter and stockier vs the average bear (and I still felt that way)

Only an issue for extended sessions say 300 or so rounds. Won't be an issue for self defense

[Screwball]

Got the Flux flush stock…

https://i.imgur.com/bICkYhl.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/PEg1aLb.jpeg

It seems 3D printed… but very well done 3D printing. Like the flag on the side, don’t like the SBR/stock on the back. Fits the brace end cap, which allows for iron sights to be used. They include a spare end cap (I like spare parts) and the uninstalled QD mount. I like the mount on the gun, not so much the one on the brace/stock. Likely going to leave that off when I toss it on, as it is pointless to me.

Another month before I can meet up with the laser engraver. Mine and his vacations just didn’t line up at all. But once that’s done (other parts should be here, including the threaded barrel for the compensator), I should have it all together. Only thing eluding me is a Flux right side safety delete… but I’ll make do until it comes back in stock.

[Screwball]

https://i.imgur.com/0fCXy3V.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/KmPyqwZ.jpeg

Got the RipStik installed on slide and threaded barrel in… really liking it. Just drilled dimples for the set screws and have the Loctite setting up. Hoping to get it to the range Wednesday when I qualify.

[t1tan]

I absolutely love my Raider, I had the Raider 17 and now the X and I’ve been tweaking it nonstop. I have the 365 Raider as well but haven’t had a chance to use it yet since I’m waiting on their forward optic mount.

Maybe I love the Raider too much, I’ve been teaching myself different modeling software and started developing products that I needed/wanted to finish my Raider that nobody else offered. Charging handles and MLOK light switch mounts, now branching into Q-SERT accessories and making my own slings.


https://youtube.com/shorts/gzqZ1ICbywI?si=nPEAG3l9OtX_MNTG

124036124037124038

[Screwball]

So, just finished up the Raider…

https://i.imgur.com/djrByjD.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/XoPWhAy.jpeg

Got the FCU engraved. Guy did good work, but did the engraving inside the Raider. Touched the bottom edge of the cutout, so I had to clean it up with a file. Just won’t do something like that again… but likely will let him do the SBS and possibly an AR lower.

The stock is pretty comfortable. Easier to shoot like a pistol with that over the brace.

https://i.imgur.com/jhQ3rjJ.jpeg

My buddy was on the marksmanship team at work, so scored a case of duty ammo. Using it in the P320, my suppressed AR9 (uses Glock magazines, so works out), and maybe my Colt magazine AR9. The Winchester Ranger will stay in my MP5.

https://i.imgur.com/52lEtvh.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/GY3b3pf.jpeg

I like the Viktos bag. It’s big enough for the Raider, but not super huge. Tossed some extra 30 round magazines in it. The 17 and 21 are in the gun. The company I bought it from did a deal on a med bag. Set it up with a spare tourniquet, light, knife, etc.

Very happy with how it came out. Going to the range on Monday or Tuesday to confirm 25 yard zero… then moving to the next project to finish prior to winter.

[t1tan]

Still waiting to get a 6” barrel and optic mount for my Raider 365 but started doing prototypes for it anyways.

125025

125026

125027

125022

125023

125024

[CCT125US]

Screwball what duty ammo is that?

[Screwball]

Screwball what duty ammo is that?

Speer G2 147 grain for DHS.

[GJM]

Look at Lena Miculek shoot it at 14 minutes


https://youtu.be/9bEnoLzlTcg?si=pTjwIRcd9ZdkPXjP

[t1tan]

First batch of my 320 charging handles for the Raider arrived the other day so all of those shipped out the next day but my next aluminum sample for the P365/Raiser 365 showed up as well, things are looking good. Same laser sintered A20X as the P320, still cerakoted but I’d like to make the change to anodizing if/when the order volume hopefully grows to make it cost effective.

126145

126146

126147

126148

126149

[G19Fan]

P365 flux raider first shots

7 yard from low ready

[HeavyDuty]

P365 flux raider first shots

7 yard from low ready

These really do attract my attention.

[G19Fan]

These really do attract my attention.

It is pretty great. More recoil than the p320 flux but it can go anywhere and that has it's own appeal

[S Jenks]

I’m just waiting on the shipping notification for mine.

Do you think the extended Armory Craft safety will allow the brace to fold completely? It’s only about 2mm wider than stock.

https://www.armorycraft.com/product-page/armory-craft-sig-sauer-p365-extended-safety

[The_Quartermaster]

This thread is not helping me resist wanting one.

[t1tan]

I’m just waiting on the shipping notification for mine.

Do you think the extended Armory Craft safety will allow the brace to fold completely? It’s only about 2mm wider than stock.

https://www.armorycraft.com/product-page/armory-craft-sig-sauer-p365-extended-safety

It won’t fit, there’s just enough clearance for the OEM safety.

[G19Fan]

Evidently I need to buy a oem safety then. This will be my only p365 with a safety

Does the brace lock the safety into place when folded? I don't have a safety yet

[G19Fan]

From low ready my fastest p365 clean bill drill is 1.78

From concealment aiwb my fastest clean p365 bill drill is 2.30. Not quite apples to apples but just some data points. Generally I am between 2.4 to 2.8 or so

[t1tan]

Evidently I need to buy a oem safety then. This will be my only p365 with a safety

Does the brace lock the safety into place when folded? I don't have a safety yet

No, you can manipulate the safety while open or folded.

[S Jenks]

Mine should arrive by Friday, but I’m *braced* for a delay as it’s the Christmas crunch time.

I think what I might do is grind down the right side of the AC ambi safety until it fits. It won’t be pretty but I greatly enjoy that tiny bit of extra shelf space.

[G19Fan]

Mine should arrive by Friday, but I’m *braced* for a delay as it’s the Christmas crunch time.

I think what I might do is grind down the right side of the AC ambi safety until it fits. It won’t be pretty but I greatly enjoy that tiny bit of extra shelf space.

Are you doing this with a dremel? I am tempted to do the same

[S Jenks]

Are you doing this with a dremel? I am tempted to do the same

Very likely, and clean it up with a file/sandpaper/cold blue. It’ll look nasty but after missing the OEM safety on an XL frame a few times when pushing my par times in dryfire, I went AC and haven’t looked back.

I had tried a blob of sanded and shaped Gorilla Glue epoxy putty on the OEM, but it eventually fell off.

[The_Quartermaster]

Alright, before I dive deep into Tacswap and take the ass bending, where can I find the chassis for the 320 anywhere in stock right now??? Sheesh. If I have I'll buy the entire thing and have it shipped to my FFL but I already have a 320 hence why I just want the chassis.

[HeavyDuty]

Alright, before I dive deep into Tacswap and take the ass bending, where can I find the chassis for the 320 anywhere in stock right now??? Sheesh. If I have I'll buy the entire thing and have it shipped to my FFL but I already have a 320 hence why I just want the chassis.

When needed a chassis and top end for my MP320 I ended up with the cheapest contrast sight full size I could find - a 320F-9-B. It was just a few bucks more than a used one.

[The_Quartermaster]

When needed a chassis and top end for my MP320 I ended up with the cheapest contrast sight full size I could find - a 320F-9-B. It was just a few bucks more than a used one.

I saw an ad with okay feedback from guys with great feedback so it's not a shill boost using fake accounts. M17 slide assembly and the chassis for $1,000 shipped. I posted my interest.

[HeavyDuty]

Humor?

[G19Fan]

Alright, before I dive deep into Tacswap and take the ass bending, where can I find the chassis for the 320 anywhere in stock right now??? Sheesh. If I have I'll buy the entire thing and have it shipped to my FFL but I already have a 320 hence why I just want the chassis.

The chassis only is hard. Imo just buy a complete one.

The p365 flux is the actual impossible to find item

[HeavyDuty]

I saw an ad with okay feedback from guys with great feedback so it's not a shill boost using fake accounts. M17 slide assembly and the chassis for $1,000 shipped. I posted my interest.

Wait - I misunderstood. By chassis I thought you meant the FCU. That’s a pretty good deal, I think.

[G19Fan]

Wait - I misunderstood. By chassis I thought you meant the FCU. That’s a pretty good deal, I think.

It is a fantastic deal imo

[theJanitor]

I have no experience with the flux or this bag or if it was previously mentioned, but I just saw it online while looking for an ultra lite Fanny pack:

https://paladin33.com/products/russian-doll-flux

[G19Fan]

P365 flux with brace extended vs 7.5 300 blk collapsed

[WobblyPossum]

The Flux is probably the closest thing I’ve seen to a “PDW” that a normal CCW person might actually be willing to carry. The P365 Raider looks neat.

[The_Quartermaster]

I fent. $1,586.08 after taxes for the Sig Legion Flux 320 thingy.

And oddly enough, already have an X300U B and an ACRO P2 waiting to be homed. Perfect.

[S Jenks]

My P365 Raider came in yesterday afternoon. I’m hoping to make it to the range tomorrow to try it out.

This is going to read like a bitchy post but that’s not my intent. I’m excited a company like Flux released a product like this. At my department we just transitioned to Glock 47s with Acro P2s and Surefire X300s, having traded in our 10-year-old plain-Jane Glock 17s. For budget purposes, we’ve projected the replacement of these new Glocks in 2034. I’ll be on the verge of retirement then. I wonder what those next duty guns will look like.

First impressions-

The aluminum chassis seems to be very well made. There are no sharp edges and the control layout seems well thought out. I like the number of extra threaded holes Flux added, for future accessory use. I’d like to get a QD socket installed in as unobtrusive a location as possible, just to have the option.

I had hoped the TLR7a and TLR7x lights I already own would fit, but no luck. The front bezel of the light and the rear of the brace contact just enough where the brace snags when releasing. A bit of sandpaper and some touch up paint would probably fix this, but I’m using it as an excuse to pick up a TLR 7 HLX Sub.

The button used to collapsed the brace is very stiff to depress. I’m thinking a drop of lube and some reps might smooth it out some.

The brace release button on the right side of the chassis is already getting dinged up from closing the brace on it. It needs to be pushed forward in order to lock the brace in the folded position. I can see aftermarket or future versions of the release button extending a bit farther toward the trigger guard, for ease of use for those with smaller hands. I wear sized large gloves and my index finger is at full extension when pressing it forward. I’ll probably be removing it anyway for use with the holster, so it’s a moot point.

The Armory Craft extended safety - it seems to work, mostly. The brace will collapse and lock closed, and you can manipulate the safety with the brace closed, but it’s rubbing and putting inward pressure onto the right side of the lever to the point it’s somehow affecting the trigger pull. The firing pin will still snap but it’s a noticeably heavier trigger pull and not ideal. I’m probably going to dremel the right side lever down and test it out. This isn’t a dig at Flux as the manual flat out says to only use the OEM Sig safety.

The holster is a bit chunky for IWB use. That’s my fault for not yet shedding the Covid 20 I put on. Kudos to Flux for making a holster in the first place.

I’m really, really hoping Flux can do something similar with the RXM FCU in the next few years.

[The_Quartermaster]

I am going to go through this thread starting at the beginning to see what ideas and build parts if any are being mentioned. However I do have a small favor to ask, pics of builds along with specs of parts used. If you don't want to show your pics online for any opsec reason, DM would be great as well. If it's needed to know, this will shot left hand.

I'd like to start ordering some things if needed, like a charging handle.

[G19Fan]

For a p365 flux

OG p365xl slide (best slide for this as otherwise you need to disassemble the shroud to clean it)

Eps carry

Flux p365 chasis

[G19Fan]

My P365 Raider came in yesterday afternoon. I’m hoping to make it to the range tomorrow to try it out.

This is going to read like a bitchy post but that’s not my intent. I’m excited a company like Flux released a product like this. At my department we just transitioned to Glock 47s with Acro P2s and Surefire X300s, having traded in our 10-year-old plain-Jane Glock 17s. For budget purposes, we’ve projected the replacement of these new Glocks in 2034. I’ll be on the verge of retirement then. I wonder what those next duty guns will look like.

First impressions-

The aluminum chassis seems to be very well made. There are no sharp edges and the control layout seems well thought out. I like the number of extra threaded holes Flux added, for future accessory use. I’d like to get a QD socket installed in as unobtrusive a location as possible, just to have the option.

I had hoped the TLR7a and TLR7x lights I already own would fit, but no luck. The front bezel of the light and the rear of the brace contact just enough where the brace snags when releasing. A bit of sandpaper and some touch up paint would probably fix this, but I’m using it as an excuse to pick up a TLR 7 HLX Sub.

The button used to collapsed the brace is very stiff to depress. I’m thinking a drop of lube and some reps might smooth it out some.

The brace release button on the right side of the chassis is already getting dinged up from closing the brace on it. It needs to be pushed forward in order to lock the brace in the folded position. I can see aftermarket or future versions of the release button extending a bit farther toward the trigger guard, for ease of use for those with smaller hands. I wear sized large gloves and my index finger is at full extension when pressing it forward. I’ll probably be removing it anyway for use with the holster, so it’s a moot point.

The Armory Craft extended safety - it seems to work, mostly. The brace will collapse and lock closed, and you can manipulate the safety with the brace closed, but it’s rubbing and putting inward pressure onto the right side of the lever to the point it’s somehow affecting the trigger pull. The firing pin will still snap but it’s a noticeably heavier trigger pull and not ideal. I’m probably going to dremel the right side lever down and test it out. This isn’t a dig at Flux as the manual flat out says to only use the OEM Sig safety.

The holster is a bit chunky for IWB use. That’s my fault for not yet shedding the Covid 20 I put on. Kudos to Flux for making a holster in the first place.

I’m really, really hoping Flux can do something similar with the RXM FCU in the next few years.

Keep in touch working with a gentleman on some option on a small sling.

Only way to add a qd I can see is to jb weld it on too scared to do so lol

I do have a spare p365 flux I overpaid for. Tempted to try....

[t1tan]

The aluminum chassis seems to be very well made. There are no sharp edges and the control layout seems well thought out. I like the number of extra threaded holes Flux added, for future accessory use. I’d like to get a QD socket installed in as unobtrusive a location as possible, just to have the option.

They do have a sling mount planned, no actual details yet. They also have several other accessories coming but no timeline; cheek riser, rubber butt pads, magwell, a shoulder rig type sling setup, and they’re working with a hydraulic buffer manufacturer to get one made for the 365 and 320. The first accessory to release should be their optic mount, the Flux guys are sending me one and said they should have them in about a week. I’m also in talks to provide a picatinny rail that mounts to the shroud designed by my OEM, 3D printed out of A20X aluminum like my charging handles.


127343
127344

127347
127345
127346

[S Jenks]

That’s really great t1tan, the sky’s the limit when it comes to accessories for this type of firearm system. I’m excited to see how it evolves.

[G19Fan]

They do have a sling mount planned, no actual details yet. They also have several other accessories coming but no timeline; cheek riser, rubber butt pads, magwell, a shoulder rig type sling setup, and they’re working with a hydraulic buffer manufacturer to get one made for the 365 and 320. The first accessory to release should be their optic mount, the Flux guys are sending me one and said they should have them in about a week. I’m also in talks to provide a picatinny rail that mounts to the shroud designed by my OEM, 3D printed out of A20X aluminum like my charging handles.


127343
127344

127347
127345
127346

I am interested in all these things...a rubber buttpad and a discrete shoulder sling are my top wishes

[MolonLabe416]

https://youtu.be/RKEyOZ6ZU20?si=F4IlOjjJnWj7EnqO

Gun Jesus review.

[The_Quartermaster]

After going through each post of this thread, I have decided on the following:

Flux safety delete, a must have so I ordered right away.
Virtuous side rail, single.
Virtuous optic plate charging handle.
Grayfighter sling wrap.

I originally thought of placing the X300 on the bottom but thought about the possibility of not getting enough real estate, but I will wait until at least one range session before finally deciding if the side rail will be needed or not.

I have thought about ordering the Steiner Mini Tor IR for active aiming at night, but I don't foresee using a PDW bag gun of last resort for night vision ops when I already have an 11.5 SBR AR15 that is always more practical. Plus I won't be lugging my stupid expensive 31 dual WP's anyways.

[HeavyDuty]

I have to admit that while I have near zero interest in the P320 version of the Flux Raider, the P365 version is *very* appealing.

[The_Quartermaster]

I have to admit that while I have near zero interest in the P320 version of the Flux Raider, the P365 version is *very* appealing.I can't get with the Flux 365, no appeal to me but the 320 is right up my alley.

Life gave the experiences that sometimes too small can be a bad thing or at least, not the most marginal thing. The 320 checks all the blocks for me as a PDW PCC. My 365 Xmacro, while perfect for me to EDC as it's not to small to not shoot as good as a duty size, isn't big enough for me to want to use as a bag gun either when the 320 will do it better.

[HeavyDuty]

I can't get with the Flux 365, no appeal to me but the 320 is right up my alley.

Life gave the experiences that sometimes too small can be a bad thing or at least, not the most marginal thing. The 320 checks all the blocks for me as a PDW PCC. My 365 Xmacro, while perfect for me to EDC as it's not to small to not shoot as good as a duty size, isn't big enough for me to want to use as a bag gun either when the 320 will do it better.

I have a MP320 and a couple of 9mm subguns, so a P320 Flux Raider would be redundant for me.

[The_Quartermaster]

I have a MP320 and a couple of 9mm subguns, so a P320 Flux Raider would be redundant for me.

Never even heard of that. Was it a one time run?

[HeavyDuty]

Never even heard of that. Was it a one time run?

Yeah, one of 600 or 800 from what I can tell. Supposedly SIG put these together just before the brace ban came out, and they were sitting in a warehouse when the ban was overturned so they quickly sold them off through the Experience Center. I suspect the SIG/Flux Raider collaboration was already underway and they were just clearing the shelves. It’s a fun little toy.

I have a longer barrel on order, I was too stupid to order the special longer one SIG offered. I want the bare muzzle to be well forward of the hand shroud.


https://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=118772&d=1716235074.jpg

I also put a longer brace on it, this one is a little too squeezy.

[HeavyDuty]

P365 flux raider first shots

https://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127155&stc=1&d=1734329345.jpg

Where is the muzzle in relation to that? My MP320 has polymer to the tip, so I’ve always been conscious of keeping the muzzle slightly forward of the end - polymer gas cuts too easily.

[G19Fan]

Where is the muzzle in relation to that? My MP320 has polymer to the tip, so I’ve always been conscious of keeping the muzzle slightly forward of the end - polymer gas cuts too easily.

This is all alum and has the shroud on top

I am running an xl slide so it is 1/3 deep into the shroud. A fuse slide would be even deeper in. Also they make a 6 inch barrel which would take you to the front

Cannot use the barrel shroud with a macro comp or other comp

[G19Fan]

Where is the muzzle in relation to that? My MP320 has polymer to the tip, so I’ve always been conscious of keeping the muzzle slightly forward of the end - polymer gas cuts too easily.

But even the p320 one when I had one I never had any issues

But the 6 inch barrel they sell will for the p365 takes you all the way to the front

[The_Quartermaster]

Yeah, one of 600 or 800 from what I can tell. Supposedly SIG put these together just before the brace ban came out, and they were sitting in a warehouse when the ban was overturned so they quickly sold them off through the Experience Center. I suspect the SIG/Flux Raider collaboration was already underway and they were just clearing the shelves. It’s a fun little toy.

I have a longer barrel on order, I was too stupid to order the special longer one SIG offered. I want the bare muzzle to be well forward of the hand shroud.


https://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=118772&d=1716235074.jpg

I also put a longer brace on it, this one is a little too squeezy.I can easily see why you'd prefer this to the Flux. I would too.

Looks like Sig had a real winner. Why they chose the Flux instead of that is a little weird. I am getting MP7 and Uzi vibes form just looking at it and I like what I am seeing as it's more functional from what I can tell.

I recently put a JMAC stock/brace beam folder on my NPAP, and put on a Tailhook Mod 1C, which is what I would use for that as well. I too am not a fan of rubber ding dongs that flex too much when braced against something.

[S Jenks]

Where is the muzzle in relation to that? My MP320 has polymer to the tip, so I’ve always been conscious of keeping the muzzle slightly forward of the end - polymer gas cuts too easily.

This is the Flux shroud with True Precision 6” barrel, exactly flush.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241221/6ca6c063ebb05e2efe8723107de779fe.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241221/344505cef4f3d66c66d92e67cd1d3020.jpg

[G19Fan]

This is the Flux shroud with True Precision 6” barrel, exactly flush.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241221/6ca6c063ebb05e2efe8723107de779fe.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241221/344505cef4f3d66c66d92e67cd1d3020.jpg

Heavily debating if I want the 6 inch barrel on my primary one.

Keep a normal.xl barrel on my training flux one

[HeavyDuty]

I can easily see why you'd prefer this to the Flux. I would too.

Looks like Sig had a real winner. Why they chose the Flux instead of that is a little weird. I am getting MP7 and Uzi vibes form just looking at it and I like what I am seeing as it's more functional from what I can tell.

It’s not bad, but somehow it also feels like it wasn’t completely developed. For example, there is a vacant place in the shroud opposite the ejection port with two holes - what was intended for that?


This is the Flux shroud with True Precision 6” barrel, exactly flush.

This isn’t helping my desire for one of these.

[G19Fan]

Yeah, one of 600 or 800 from what I can tell. Supposedly SIG put these together just before the brace ban came out, and they were sitting in a warehouse when the ban was overturned so they quickly sold them off through the Experience Center. I suspect the SIG/Flux Raider collaboration was already underway and they were just clearing the shelves. It’s a fun little toy.

I have a longer barrel on order, I was too stupid to order the special longer one SIG offered. I want the bare muzzle to be well forward of the hand shroud.


https://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=118772&d=1716235074.jpg

I also put a longer brace on it, this one is a little too squeezy.

How do you like that setup? It looks like a larger version of the p365 flux to me!

Basically lose the fast mag reload

[HeavyDuty]

How do you like that setup? It looks like a larger version of the p365 flux to me!

Basically lose the fast mag reload

I do like it. The sawzall style handguard comes off and uncovers a polymer bottom rail; the aluminum top shell slides on and is retained by a pin. You replace the slide backplate with one that has a tab which engages with the AR-style cocking handle. I pushed the optic further forward since that pic along with a longer SIG brace body and hinge and a hook-style arm brace. I should take more pics.

[G19Fan]

I do like it. The sawzall style handguard comes off and uncovers a polymer bottom rail; the aluminum top shell slides on and is retained by a pin. You replace the slide backplate with one that has a tab which engages with the AR-style cocking handle. I pushed the optic further forward since that pic along with a longer SIG brace body and hinge and a hook-style arm brace. I should take more pics.

I dig it

I like the p320 flux but the p365 flux is brilliant for size vs capability

It even has a longer barrel than the p320 flux if you buy the 6 inch barrel lol

[HeavyDuty]

I dig it

I like the p320 flux but the p365 flux is brilliant for size vs capability

It even has a longer barrel than the p320 flux if you buy the 6 inch barrel lol

The 365 one really appeals to me. I have a Barsto threaded 6.5” barrel on order for this thing.

[G19Fan]

The 365 one really appeals to me. I have a Barsto threaded 6.5” barrel on order for this thing.

I am really impressed by the p365 one. Less soft shooting but otherwise more useful in every way

[G19Fan]

I can't get with the Flux 365, no appeal to me but the 320 is right up my alley.

Life gave the experiences that sometimes too small can be a bad thing or at least, not the most marginal thing. The 320 checks all the blocks for me as a PDW PCC. My 365 Xmacro, while perfect for me to EDC as it's not to small to not shoot as good as a duty size, isn't big enough for me to want to use as a bag gun either when the 320 will do it better.

Having had both I sold the p320 one as soon as the p365 one was obtained.

The p365 has a tad more recoil but can be shot just as fast and is actually more accurate at distance due to how optic mounting is on the p320 one

[The_Quartermaster]

Having had both I sold the p320 one as soon as the p365 one was obtained.

The p365 has a tad more recoil but can be shot just as fast and is actually more accurate at distance due to how optic mounting is on the p320 oneI've tried the 365 Flux at a range day, I could not see a use for it because I found it not much of anything useful to be blunt.

I am used to the M16 sighting height so this isn't going to be a real problem for me shouldered, I have zero intention to use as an actual pistol. So needless to say, it will still be as accurate and more since I prefer in line shouldering to brace with over the slant 365 Flux.

And yes, you've said it many more times than necessary as an absolute about the 365, however I have found the life lesson that there are zero absolutes in the gun community, only subjective based opinions being superimposed. I wish you well with the 365 Flux but that is for you that we are all aware of and not for me as your boundaries and uses for this PDW aren't mine.

[G19Fan]

I've tried the 365 Flux at a range day, I could not see a use for it because I found it not much of anything useful to be blunt.

I am used to the M16 sighting height so this isn't going to be a real problem for me shouldered, I have zero intention to use as an actual pistol. So needless to say, it will still be as accurate and more since I prefer in line shouldering to brace with over the slant 365 Flux.

And yes, you've said it many more times than necessary as an absolute about the 365, however I have found the life lesson that there are zero absolutes in the gun community, only subjective based opinions being superimposed. I wish you well with the 365 Flux but that is for you that we are all aware of and not for me as your boundaries aren't mine.

It isn't the sight height on the p320. It is the frame flex on tall mount

Chopping it so you use slide mount fixes distance accuracy issue

[The_Quartermaster]

It isn't the sight height on the p320. It is the frame flex on tall mount

Chopping it so you use slide mount fixes distance accuracy issueYes, I know. I have done my due diligence.

There's nothing necessary to chop or fix.

[G19Fan]

Yes, I know. I have done my due diligence.

There's nothing necessary to chop or fix.


Cool enjoy the flux it is a great platform. Had a give take 30k through mine before selling it. Sometimes miss it.

[HeavyDuty]

I happened to be on Gunbroker looking something up, and on a whim looked for a P365 Raider. Only one being sold for $1850.

Capitalism!

[G19Fan]

I happened to be on Gunbroker looking something up, and on a whim looked for a P365 Raider. Only one being sold for $1850.

Capitalism!

That isn't even nut an as a few sold over 2.5k

A few buddies paid 1700 to 1900 for theirs with no regrets

I think up to 1500 is fine if you need the capabilities and already have a p365

[The_Quartermaster]

There's going to be a few 320 Flux chassis in both black and FDE being released for Xmas tomorrow

[G19Fan]

P365 flux 1/2 sized targets simulating 20 yard bill drills (I was at 10 yards)

One from low ready. One on target.

[Archer1440]

That isn't even nut an as a few sold over 2.5k

A few buddies paid 1700 to 1900 for theirs with no regrets

I think up to 1500 is fine if you need the capabilities and already have a p365

I shoot with the owner of Flux and a few of his employees in my local matches pretty regularly, they’re great folks with excellent skills and I like them a lot.

So when I say that $1500-1800 is bat guano insane for that thing, I’m not knocking the makers, who in my opinion, set a fair MSRP. I’m knocking the market.

[G19Fan]

I shoot with the owner of Flux and a few of his employees in my local matches pretty regularly, they’re great folks with excellent skills and I like them a lot.

So when I say that $1500-1800 is bat guano insane for that thing, I’m not knocking the makers, who in my opinion, set a fair MSRP. I’m knocking the market.

Ben and them are indeed good guys and the price from flux is def very fair.

I think the aftermarket price is nuts too but plenty of impatient people

[The_Quartermaster]

Ben and them are indeed good guys and the price from flux is def very fair.

I think the aftermarket price is nuts too but plenty of impatient peopleOkay, let's be honest right now.

When they slow release things that was "OOS" but make every popular guntuber to be seen with them prevalent and reoccurring, is what is creating the demand for unobtanium because imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. KAC had it figured out, Hodge does it too. Sometimes it's the S&D, but slow releasing some on a specific date only like Flux? C'mon man, they are creating the impatience.

tl;dr: Impatient? Hardly. Bad business ethics? Yup.

[HeavyDuty]

I would be more interested if they offered guaranteed refundable deposit preorders with a projected in-stock date. This always out of stock whenever I check game that so many places play is a major turnoff.

[G19Fan]

I would be more interested if they offered guaranteed refundable deposit preorders with a projected in-stock date. This always out of stock whenever I check game that so many places play is a major turnoff.

They did that with the 2nd p365 release as tons of us got screwed on the initial purchase. Like I checked out with mine in my cart and then it refused to check out and said it was out of stock

But that isn't likely to happen again unf.

[G19Fan]

Okay, let's be honest right now.

When they slow release things that was "OOS" but make every popular guntuber to be seen with them prevalent and reoccurring, is what is creating the demand for unobtanium because imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. KAC had it figured out, Hodge does it too. Sometimes it's the S&D, but slow releasing some on a specific date only like Flux? C'mon man, they are creating the impatience.

tl;dr: Impatient? Hardly. Bad business ethics? Yup.

They are a tiny shop though. But yes the lack of supply is def an issue.

The hype release system works unf. When the p365 flux first came out someone traded a fully loaded scar heavy for a chasis.

That was the stupidest trade I have ever seen

[The_Quartermaster]

They are a tiny shop though. But yes the lack of supply is def an issue.

The hype release system works unf. When the p365 flux first came out someone traded a fully loaded scar heavy for a chasis.

That was the stupidest trade I have ever seenI would have honestly gone with the more reliably to be shipped B&T G17 chassis, but when I asked JMAC for an arm bar made for it to attach a Tailhook Mod 1C and they said no, this Flux was the next best thing for me.

However I may still get a B&T and SBR a 17 or a 34 for it and keep this Flux as a pistol. Not a fan of the brace for the B&T USW.

Sometimes people trade down to get what they want. Seen it in person with a friend bringing a mutt AR that he put nothing into and got for $499 before the 2013 scare at a gun show local to us, and walked out with a very mint H&R M1 Garand. Someone traded down to get what I had that they wanted and got a very used and salted USP45V1 while I got a pristine SA TRP Operator.

Anyway, it's their money and property so stupid to us it may be we really have zero say in it and not out lanes to opine.

[t1tan]

Drove out to Texas for Christmas with family and took a detour on the way out to visit my manufacturer and get a tour of the place while he had the next batch of my charging handles printing for the Flux Raiders.



https://youtu.be/BLSx0jVAZmg?si=TDZi0PXw996dhHkd

[G19Fan]

Someone online chopped their p365 flux to accept 12 round mags. It.now fits in a pocket.

I think I am doing that with one of my backup flux

[HeavyDuty]

Someone online chopped their p365 flux to accept 12 round mags. It.now fits in a pocket.

I think I am doing that with one of my backup flux

Ok, now that’s interesting. Practical? No. Fun? Almost certainly.

[G19Fan]

Ok, now that’s interesting. Practical? No. Fun? Almost certainly.

Why not practical? Just curious as it can always take the 17 round mags and now can be pocket carried.

For my use would be smaller backpack gun

[theJanitor]

Why not practical? Just curious as it can always take the 17 round mags and now can be pocket carried.

For my use would be smaller backpack gun

Got a pic of this? I'm thinking hard about the flux

[G19Fan]

Got a pic of this? I'm thinking hard about the flux

Yes here you go

If you want the one I have for sale shoot me a pm. Otherwise that one is probably getting chopped lol

[S Jenks]

A word of advice- Flux wasn’t kidding when they said to only use the OEM safety.

While the Armory Craft safety works, flicking it on and off safe with the brace closed will result in the right side lever eventually snapping off.

Conveniently for me it broke where I had planned to dremel the right side lever off, flush with the frame.

[G19Fan]

My chop is 90% done. Mag won't lock in yet

This is early on

[G19Fan]

Done. Able to be slung under a light jacket

[G19Fan]

Flux dickens vs p365 dickens

Flux half the time. Better hits

[t1tan]

My most recent batch of 106 charging handles showed up today after switching from cerakote to type III hardcoat anodizing, they keep getting better, now I’m up to 8 models after just adding M17/18 specific skus along with the various P320 and P365 options. In the coming months I’m going to work on RMR and MOS models for the Glock Raider coming this year.



129026

129027

129028

[Screwball]

I’ve liked the Raider X…

Seeing the Raider 365 in this thread, been back and forth on it. Was restocked today… and I may have bought one with the long stock. With discount, it worked out to $775ish.

I have other projects going on, like the VZ61 and a SBS Coach Gun… but nice thing is I can leave it in my office and worry about it when I get time/ambition. Don’t even have a 365 yet to Form 1. Might buy the brace adapter when back in stock, then I can see if I really want to SBR it.

For those with them, safety or no safety? I was never a fan of the 365 safety… but feel the larger platform should have one.

I might also look at using my Dead Air Odessa on it, as I finally got it off my AR9 (now has a 10.5” Angstadt Vanquish). Stayed away from that nightmare with the 320.

[G19Fan]

I’ve liked the Raider X…

Seeing the Raider 365 in this thread, been back and forth on it. Was restocked today… and I may have bought one with the long stock. With discount, it worked out to $775ish.

I have other projects going on, like the VZ61 and a SBS Coach Gun… but nice thing is I can leave it in my office and worry about it when I get time/ambition. Don’t even have a 365 yet to Form 1. Might buy the brace adapter when back in stock, then I can see if I really want to SBR it.

For those with them, safety or no safety? I was never a fan of the 365 safety… but feel the larger platform should have one.

I might also look at using my Dead Air Odessa on it, as I finally got it off my AR9 (now has a 10.5” Angstadt Vanquish). Stayed away from that nightmare with the 320.

You will love it. Handiest pdw out

[LittleLebowski]

I need a G17 version of this.

[G19Fan]

I need a G17 version of this.

The rmx version should.be out next year. Close enough?

[LittleLebowski]

The rmx version should.be out next year. Close enough?

Maybe? I've got G17s laying around doing nothing right now :cool:

[G19Fan]

Maybe? I've got G17s laying around doing nothing right now :cool:

Ooh got it haha

[Default.mp3]

Maybe? I've got G17s laying around doing nothing right now :cool:What are you seeking from the Raider? If you want a stock with a non-reciprocating RDS mount, the B&T USW-G17 might be worth a look.

[LittleLebowski]

What are you seeking from the Raider? If you want a stock with a non-reciprocating RDS mount, the B&T USW-G17 might be worth a look.

Something light and handy, easy to deploy, not a pain in the ass to install.

[Default.mp3]

Something light and handy, easy to deploy, not a pain in the ass to install.The USW certainly checks all those boxes. I'm just not convinced it does all that much for someone with decent pistol shooting skills, having of coonfingered one, given the extremely short LOP of the stock (though I feel the same about the Raider).

[G19Fan]

The USW certainly checks all those boxes. I'm just not convinced it does all that much for someone with decent pistol shooting skills, having of coonfingered one, given the extremely short LOP of the stock (though I feel the same about the Raider).

Best part of p365 raider is longer lop

Imo it makes a huge difference p365 raider vs p365 at a distance (see above dickens drill a few posts up)

[HeavyDuty]

One of the guys at my club made me an offer on a new in box Strike Charlie P320 chassis that I couldn’t pass up. I may need to wear a disguise when I take it out in public, but it’s handy with my X5 Legion FCU and top end plus a spare SIG brace.

[G19Fan]

One of the guys at my club made me an offer on a new in box Strike Charlie P320 chassis that I couldn’t pass up. I may need to wear a disguise when I take it out in public, but it’s handy with my X5 Legion FCU and top end plus a spare SIG brace.

Let me know how that runs! It is odd looking lol

[HeavyDuty]

Odd is right. It’s just the bare chassis, I have no interest in adding the shrouds and other gadgets. One issue is that using a slide mounted optic like I’m doing forces you to drop the brace to low on the rear 1919, but it works. Ideally I’d look for a visor type brace, but the idea is not to spend money on this and only use stuff I already have like this SIG brace. I’m trying to find the 1913 finger stop I have tucked away, I’d prefer keeping my fingers intact.

130459

[Screwball]

I just picked up a 365 Fuse… like the larger gun. Has the Romeo X, very happy with it. Also tossed a TLR-7A on.

Holding off on installing in the Raider until I get some shots thru it. Hopefully it starts warming up soon.

[HeavyDuty]

I’m really impressed with my Fuse! Which Romeo X - the SIG-LOC one that (at the moment) only works with the Fuse?

[Screwball]

Which Romeo X - the SIG-LOC one that (at the moment) only works with the Fuse?

This… with 3 MOA dot.

https://www.sigsauer.com/romeo-x-compact-enclosed.html

[HeavyDuty]

This… with 3 MOA dot.

https://www.sigsauer.com/romeo-x-compact-enclosed.html

I have a couple of the 6 MOA ones, I’m really impressed with them.

[t1tan]

Optic mount system is coming along for the 365 Raider, shroud, plate system and a thumb rest.

131893

131894

[psalms144.1]

Optic mount system is coming along for the 365 Raider, shroud, plate system and a thumb rest.

131893

131894Before they add more optional accessories, maybe they should just make the f'ing base model.

Salty, I know, but I'm tired and cranky right now...

[HeavyDuty]

Optic mount system is coming along for the 365 Raider, shroud, plate system and a thumb rest.

131893

131894

Your stuff is really looking good!

[t1tan]

Before they add more optional accessories, maybe they should just make the f'ing base model.

Salty, I know, but I'm tired and cranky right now...

Just to be clear, that’s mine(Orbital Drop Supply), not Flux’s.



Your stuff is really looking good!

Thanks!

[G19Fan]

Optic mount system is coming along for the 365 Raider, shroud, plate system and a thumb rest.

131893

131894

How is zero and accuracy on the front mounted?

[psalms144.1]

Just to be clear, that’s mine(Orbital Drop Supply), not Flux’s.




Thanks!My bad!