Vortex COMPDOT 5 & 8 MOA

[HCM]

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This came to my attention via S&W's release of the Jerry Miculek 9mm Performance Center revolver.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/performance-center-model-327-wr-jerry-miculek-world-record-revolver

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It appears Vortex has a new version of their full size Defender optic with a larger window to compete with the SRO and Holosun 507 Comp.

Vortex is showing it available with either a 5 MOA or 8 MOA dot. With an MSRP of $ 429 I'm guessing street price will be comparable to the Holosun 507 Comp.

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https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-compdot-red-dot+reticle-8~MOA~Dot





Huge Hard Coated Aspherical Lens Large Distortion Free Sight Picture.

Motion Activation With 10-Minute Auto-Shutoff Automatically activates with motion while 10-minute auto-shutoff saves battery life.

ShockShield™ Polymer insert absorbs shock to the 7075 aluminum body protecting it for everyday abuse.

Fast-Rack™ Texturing Aggressive texturing on face of optic for racking slide off any surface.

Top Mount Battery Easy battery change without having to rezero your optic.

8 Daylight Bright Brightness Settings Daylight bright, illuminated center dot aids in faster centerpoint acquisition in bright daylight conditions.

Parallax Free All red dot and holographic sights will exhibit some small amount of parallax. Matching current industry practice, this small amount would be considered "parallax free" and will make a negligible difference in performance.

Unlimited Eye Relief Non-critical eye relief for rapid target acquisition.

Night-Vision Compatibility The lowest 2 settings are nightvision compatible.

Waterproof O-ring seals prevent moisture, dust and debris from penetrating for reliable performance in all environments.

Fogproof Designed to withstand a wide range of temperatures.

Shockproof Rugged construction withstands recoil and impact.

Low-Glare Matte Black Anodized Corrosion and wear resistant anodization provides low-glare matte surface and helps camouflage the shooter's position.
Single-Piece Chassis Compact and lightweight.

[Erick Gelhaus]

Shhhh, we're not supposed to talk about this. Really. Not yet.

[HCM]

Shhhh, we're not supposed to talk about this. Really. Not yet.

Somebody should tell Smith and Wesson and Vortex since they both have publicly accessible webpages…..


Given the fact, the original defender CCW started showing up in stores before the supposed OK to talk about it date I think whoever is shushing this is full of s**t and it’s just vortex’s idea of a guerrilla marketing campaign.

Or their product release efforts are a mess and they have more leaks than the Iraqi Navy…..

[Erick Gelhaus]

Somebody should tell Smith and Wesson and Vortex since they both have publicly accessible webpages…..


Given the fact, the original defender CCW started showing up in stores before the supposed OK to talk about it date I think whoever is shushing this is full of s**t and it’s just vortex’s idea of a guerrilla marketing campaign.

Or their product release efforts are a mess and they have more leaks than the Iraqi Navy…..

Or, maybe I'm thinking of another optic of theirs, supposedly on its way, that is embargoed. Could be that too.

[taadski]

Looks like a good step up for them. Dig the availability of the larger dots. Not necessarily a fan of the DPP footprint choice, but…

[DMF13]

Not necessarily a fan of the DPP footprint choice, but… I really wish the industry would settle on one footprint, or possibly two (one for open emitters, and one for closed). Until that happens, I'll stick with plate systems. I don't want to pay for milling a slide, only to find out the one I chose is one that ends up being the BetaMax of optics.

[mrozowjj]

8 MOA dot and a tooless battery cap? Consider me very intrested, even if I do think the DPP footprint is a bummer.

[HCM]

Looks like a good step up for them. Dig the availability of the larger dots. Not necessarily a fan of the DPP footprint choice, but…

The screw hole spacing / positioning of the DPP footprint allows a top loading 2032 battery without having to push the lense forward like SRO and RMR HD which can cause issues with ejection or cases hitting the lens.

[paherne]

My Staccato looks longingly...

[Tokarev]

https://youtu.be/ujm7ZM-KJfU?si=m_kqg2grOM65M9ha

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[Noah]

https://vortexoptics.com/reddots-defender-xl-micro-red-dot+reticle-5~MOA~Dot

[Erick Gelhaus]

Or, maybe I'm thinking of another optic of theirs, supposedly on its way, that is embargoed. Could be that too.

Oh no, that 5 & 8 MOA competition dot is the one that I was told was embargoed until today. SMDH.

Fwiw, the Defender CCW has been very solid on my 4" Shield.

[BWT]

I am interested. I am a bit confused by the DPP foot print, but maybe that’s for military contracts? Unless I’m mistaken the Sig M17 is DPP cut.

ETA: I’d prefer not to support Holosun if at all possible. I know some Vortex products are made in China, but… it’s better than Holosun.

[YVK]

Does it look like its deck height is up there, kinda like DPP?

[msstate56]

https://youtu.be/ujm7ZM-KJfU?si=m_kqg2grOM65M9ha

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When does he drop this to see if it fires?

[HCM]

I am interested. I am a bit confused by the DPP foot print, but maybe that’s for military contracts? Unless I’m mistaken the Sig M17 is DPP cut.

ETA: I’d prefer not to support Holosun if at all possible. I know some Vortex products are made in China, but… it’s better than Holosun.

There is a technical reason you’re seeing multiple open emitter optics coming out with the DPP footprint. The hole spacing on the other common open emitter footprint (RMR) is too small to allow a top mounted / access battery without pushing the front lens forward like the SRO and RMR HD. I love me some SRO but pushing the lens forward can create its own issues.

See post #8 in this thread.

It’s not for the military. When the big military gets pistol optics they’ll be closed emitter. If not the SIG M17 optic, then something which uses screws coming up through the slide from the bottom like the M17 optic.


The Vortex defender series including the CCW and XL are all made in China.

[HCM]

Does it look like its deck height is up there, kinda like DPP?

I got to handle one of these (5 MOA) today. Hard to judge as it was on a low 1913 mount. It’s a chunky boy but the deck height doesn’t seem as high as the DPP.

The battery compartment/ compartment door/ latch are all reminiscent of the DPP.

The glass and the dot looked great though. Dot gets “Texas sunny day” bright a Vortex seems to have fixed the refresh rate issue that plagued the early Defender CCW optics.

It comes with a 1913 low mount, a Glock MOS plate and screws to fit the five or six most common pistols.

[Erick Gelhaus]

I am interested. I am a bit confused by the DPP foot print, but maybe that’s for military contracts? Unless I’m mistaken the Sig M17 is DPP cut.



It’s not for the military. When the big military gets pistol optics they’ll be closed emitter. If not the SIG M17 optic, then something which uses screws coming up through the slide from the bottom like the M17 optic.


Fwiw, at the SHOT L/E Day, Vortex employees were saying it was for the MHS contract. That's all I have.

[HCM]

Fwiw, at the SHOT L/E Day, Vortex employees were saying it was for the MHS contract. That's all I have.

Maybe the standard defender, probably not the XL. And I would be surprised if an open emitter optic wins the MHS contract for general purpose forces.

However, using SIG’s old bottom mounting screw system opens up all sorts of possibilities for closed emitter optics.

[BWT]

I took the plunge on the defender XL 5 MOA.

I am awaiting a CHWPS plate and it’ll go on a spare Glock 34. It should be interesting to see how that goes.

It is about .1” higher deck height than a Trijicon SRO, but probably that much smaller than a DPP. I’ll get exact measurements I happen to have all three if that matters to folks here.

Overall I am impressed so far.

[Sherman A. House DDS]

Oh no, that 5 & 8 MOA competition dot is the one that I was told was embargoed until today. SMDH.

Fwiw, the Defender CCW has been very solid on my 4" Shield.

Same. The Defender CCW I have on a Shield works great as well. In fact, the dot is the clearest/roundest of anything I own (Aimpoint P2, CHPWS DUTY, Holosun, Sightmark, Swampfox).

I am agnostic on the DPP footprint. I am currently competing with a M&P Metal 2.0 with a Holosun SCs direct mount. My EDC is identical…

I’m new to the RDS game, only going whole hog in the past four months (with training, competition and carry). But I’ve had some type of RDS for a few years now.


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[Quantrill]

My daughter won one of these at a match right when they were released. I don’t have much to add other than it’s beefy. I haven’t mounted it yet

[Super77]

PSA Scheels is blowing these out for $199.

https://www.scheels.com/p/84382913596/

From what I’ve read (pure internet speculation, so grain of salt), these are the same as the Defender XL but made in the Philippines. Apparently they were intended to be package deals with pistols where the D XL was the standalone option.Again, just repeating gun forum OSINT.

[Biggy]

I put one on my Kraken .22 pistol a few weeks ago and have been very impressed with mine and much prefer it over the Holosun 507 Comp I had. I prefer the 5 MOA dot size because I can use it for both fast action shooting or turned down for target shooting from 25 yds and in. I believe it also has plenty of windage and elevation if one would want to use it as a secondary sight at 12 o'clock on an AR.

https://i.imgur.com/IgeaFAAh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ncM1x7gh.jpg

[DaBigBR]

PSA Scheels is blowing these out for $199.

https://www.scheels.com/p/84382913596/

From what I’ve read (pure internet speculation, so grain of salt), these are the same as the Defender XL but made in the Philippines. Apparently they were intended to be package deals with pistols where the D XL was the standalone option.Again, just repeating gun forum OSINT.

It also appears that the Compdot does not come with the Glock MOS plate, however that really only matters if you're planning to put it on a Glock. Frankly, even if you were, I'd bet that Vortex would set you up.

[Phi]

It also appears that the Compdot does not come with the Glock MOS plate, however that really only matters if you're planning to put it on a Glock. Frankly, even if you were, I'd bet that Vortex would set you up.

They've sent out the plates when I've asked for them for my Compdots, the part number is C-04533-0

[CLaw]

Someone mentioned the battery compartment latch being different on these. Can anyone confirm?

Also, can anyone confirm if these have the older dot refresh rate? SageDynamics mentioned something about the refresh rate of the dot being updated after testers complained of flickering. Maybe that was with just the Defender ST. Not sure if that site came out before the XL.

Thinking of trying my hand at actually competing in a shooting sport. I've never done it, and I'm 46... It was something that I always wanted to do, but work and family just kind of caused me to not pursue it. Anyways. at this price if these are as good as the regular XL, I'm tempted to grab two to set up on some Glocks.

[Super77]

I’ll have mine in hand today or tomorrow, but from everything I’ve read so far it’s the same optic as a defender XL.

Any idea how to test dot refresh rate?

[HCM]

I’ll have mine in hand today or tomorrow, but from everything I’ve read so far it’s the same optic as a defender XL.

Any idea how to test dot refresh rate?

Transitions.

As an early adopter (and dumper) of the original Defender CCW due to the refresh rate, for me the refresh rate and the XL is fine. Good enough that I have one on the e way from Sheels.

[Super77]

So, I got mine today. It was indeed made in the Philippines which is nifty.

The battery compartment involves a little stainless steel button that you depress, a little door flips open, you put the battery in there, close the door, and depress a different, black button to lock it in. It’s the same as the Defender XL, but the DXL has a raised boss protecting the stainless open button, requiring a tool. The CompDot is usable without a tool.

I can’t detect any issue suggesting slow refresh. I held the sight up and flicked it while watching the dot. I couldn’t detect any flicker, tracking issue, or other abnormality and the dot in the CompDot behaves the same as the RMR and Holosun 507comp that I tested the same way.

No MOS adapter in the box, but it does have a picatinny adapter and like 16 screws in well labeled baggies.

[CLaw]

So, I got mine today. It was indeed made in the Philippines which is nifty.

The battery compartment involves a little stainless steel button that you depress, a little door flips open, you put the battery in there, close the door, and depress a different, black button to lock it in. It’s the same as the Defender XL, but the DXL has a raised boss protecting the stainless open button, requiring a tool. The CompDot is usable without a tool.

I can’t detect any issue suggesting slow refresh. I held the sight up and flicked it while watching the dot. I couldn’t detect any flicker, tracking issue, or other abnormality and the dot in the CompDot behaves the same as the RMR and Holosun 507comp that I tested the same way.

No MOS adapter in the box, but it does have a picatinny adapter and like 16 screws in well labeled baggies.

I went ahead an ordered one. Seems like a great price... I'm tempted to order two...

[DaBigBR]

I grabbed one. It came quick. No MOS plate as expected. Don't have a gun for it right now but I've never had a problem acquiring guns...

[DaBigBR]

I messed with the Compdot outside some the other day. It's probably the brightest pistol optic I've handled. I did not have an SRO or RMR handy to compare but to my eyes, this one scorches at the top couple settings.

I also sent Vortex a request to see if they sell their MOS plate (I figured it would be cheaper than an aftermarket one and I would like to see it to evaluate the quality) and they offered to send one for free. I'm not necessarily surprised but it made my day.

[stomridertx]

Thanks for the heads up on the Scheels Compdot, I jumped on it quickly. I almost set my wallet on fire from the friction of removing that credit card so fast.

[backtrail540]

I ordered one from Scheel's at the $199 price, after handling the 327jm. It was nice enough that I'll run it on my ssr and find a new home for the sro.

[Bart Carter]

...I also sent Vortex a request to see if they sell their MOS plate (I figured it would be cheaper than an aftermarket one and I would like to see it to evaluate the quality) and they offered to send one for free. I'm not necessarily surprised but it made my day.

I have used Vortex for many years and have always appreciated not only their lifetime warranty, but their customer service.

[GJM]

A friend that has the XL and the compdot describe the difference between the two as follows:

The compdot has a lens over the emitter. The XL does not and has drain holes for if water gets back in there.