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Wendell
04-25-2024, 06:01 AM
National Defence spokesperson Cheryl Forrest said all military units would send their Browning handguns to Canadian Forces supply depots in Quebec and Alberta for disposal. The Canadian Forces announced it had received the final deliveries of the new P320s on March 6. The delivery involved 16,500 of what are being called C22 pistols. Those are being used by the army, navy and air force. Another 3,200 new pistols, to be called the C24, were sent to military police units.
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JohnO
04-25-2024, 06:23 AM
Sacrebleu!

jh9
04-25-2024, 06:57 AM
Weren't their Hi Powers genuinely worn out? This doesn't seem surprising.

HeavyDuty
04-25-2024, 08:00 AM
Administrative handling. BAAAM! “Sorry, sorry, sorry!”

Suvorov
04-25-2024, 08:59 AM
Weren't their Hi Powers genuinely worn out? This doesn't seem surprising.

What doesn't seem surprising to me is that the Castro (I mean Trudeau) government is destroying firearms. I remember getting an old surplus Inglis HiPower in the 1990s (which I foolishly gave away to a friend who would later turn anti-gun), it was well used but totally functional, still with armory painted numbers on it, and a great piece of military history. I would happily own one of these surplus Canadian pistols given the opportunity even if it was pretty well worn.

Glenn E. Meyer
04-25-2024, 09:44 AM
What will happen to all the US 5.56 guns if we move to the 6.8s? On sale NOW! What happened to the Berettas, BTW?

Canada has been outed as a defense slacker lately. They couldn't defend themselves against anyone or meaningly contribute to Nato significantly. Maybe with the 320s they will?

PS - evil fingers on the 5.53 - I know better!

Suvorov
04-25-2024, 09:52 AM
What will happen to all the US 5.53 guns if we move to the 6.8s? On sale NOW! What happened to the Berettas, BTW?

Canada has been outed as a defense slacker lately. They couldn't defend themselves against anyone or meaningly contribute to Nato significantly. Maybe with the 320s they will?

Pretty certain the law that prevents federal LE guns made after a certain date (1990ish) from being sold to civilians applies to military guns as well. Maybe a small handful of M9s will be eligible if the administration is friendly. As for the M16s/M4s, "once a machine gun, always a machine gun." Plus, the 6.8 is only going to replace the 556 in certain units while 556 will remain in service with soldiers who do not use a rifle as their primary weapon (think of it as the new .30 carbine).

HCM
04-25-2024, 11:10 AM
Pretty certain the law that prevents federal LE guns made after a certain date (1990ish) from being sold to civilians applies to military guns as well. Maybe a small handful of M9s will be eligible if the administration is friendly. As for the M16s/M4s, "once a machine gun, always a machine gun." Plus, the 6.8 is only going to replace the 556 in certain units while 556 will remain in service with soldiers who do not use a rifle as their primary weapon (think of it as the new .30 carbine).

The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) and a Clinton era executive order precludes all federal LE firearms from being disposed of by any means other than destruction or transfer to another federal agency.

However none of that applies to .MIL weapons.

I agree 5.56 will likely remain in use alongside 6.8 for a LONG time.

M9s and 5.56 guns either be given to friendly countries as aid or refurbished and placed in long term storage as emergency war reserves. Replacing the 1911s, M14s and possible some M16a1s currently fulfilling that role.

The “once a machinegun always a machinegun” rule does apply but they could always chop the lower receivers and sell them as parts kits or as CMP semi only rebuilds with new AR lowers.

The M9s would be eligible for CMP sales.

Going back to the OP, it’s my understanding the Canadians should have replaced those BHPs 20 or 30 years ago and that most are unserviceable or close to it.

There are threads here on PF documenting at least a decade’s worth of failed attempts by Canada to replace their clapped out BHPs.