Louisiana Going to Constitutional Carry

[revchuck38]

The bill, SB1, passed both houses in the state legislature. It passed both houses last year too but the then-governor vetoed it. The current governor has indicated he'll sign it. That makes us the 28th state to pass such a law.

Here's (https://www.kplctv.com/2024/03/01/concealed-carry-legislation-governors-desk/) an article from my local TV station.

I'm going to keep my CCW current because I travel, but it's good to know it's not needed at home.

[Borderland]

The bill, SB1, passed both houses in the state legislature. It passed both houses last year too but the then-governor vetoed it. The current governor has indicated he'll sign it. That makes us the 28th state to pass such a law.

Here's (https://www.kplctv.com/2024/03/01/concealed-carry-legislation-governors-desk/) an article from my local TV station.

I'm going to keep my CCW current because I travel, but it's good to know it's not needed at home.

Interesting that there is no federal law against concealed carry except here.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/federal-ccw-law/federally-banned-locations-for-carrying-firearms/

The trend in states is just to go constitutional carry and forget about the permits. Saves the tax payers a lot of money and lets LE do the other stuff that we need them to do. The feds aren't going to hang you up unless you happen to be too stupid to carry where you're prohibited. It's all posted.

That's great news for you habitants des marais.

[revchuck38]

...and it's official, the governor signed the bill yesterday.

[awp_101]

...and it's official, the governor signed the bill yesterday.

Are the streets running with blood yet? ;)

[revchuck38]

Are the streets running with blood yet? ;)

I'll check after lunch. :rolleyes:

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Have this:

https://mulates.com/2019/07/22/what-is-blood-boudin/#:~:text=Blood%20Boudin%20is%20a%20unique,its%20co lor%20and%20unique%20name.


Blood Boudin is a unique dish to Louisiana. It is also known as Boudin Rouge. Blood Boudin is a red sausage consisting of pork and pig’s blood. The pig’s blood actually give it its color and unique name. This originated from the French boudin noir. Pork liver and heart meat are typically included.

[Sig_Fiend]

Current map with LA:

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[WobblyPossum]

Who do we expect next? SC? I have a hard time imagining anyone other than SC passing a permitless concealed carry law.

[RoyGBiv]

Interesting that there is no federal law against concealed carry except here.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/federal-ccw-law/federally-banned-locations-for-carrying-firearms/

The trend in states is just to go constitutional carry and forget about the permits. Saves the tax payers a lot of money and lets LE do the other stuff that we need them to do. The feds aren't going to hang you up unless you happen to be too stupid to carry where you're prohibited. It's all posted.

That's great news for you habitants des marais.

Are there any states that currently have pedmitless carry and don't also have a permit system as well?
Permits still have some reciprocity value in places where a permit is still required. Granted, that number continues to shrink.

[WobblyPossum]

Are there any states that currently have pedmitless carry and don't also have a permit system as well?
Permits still have some reciprocity value in places where a permit is still required. Granted, that number continues to shrink.

Vermont has never had a permit system in place. It’s one of the reasons permitless carry is sometimes referred to as Vermont carry.

[CleverNickname]

Who do we expect next? SC? I have a hard time imagining anyone other than SC passing a permitless concealed carry law.
North Carolina if they get a Republican governor this year. Maybe Wisconsin if they get a Republican governor in 2026. Pennsylvania passed a permitless carry bill in 2021 but it got vetoed by the governor, but they've got a new Dem governor since then. After that, any other states passing it is really implausible.

[mmc45414]

it's good to know it's not needed at home.

Or like me a decade or so back after being distracted by some serious health issues, thought to check when my renewal was due, since I was carrying most every single day.
9 months prior... :o

[joshs]

Who do we expect next? SC? I have a hard time imagining anyone other than SC passing a permitless concealed carry law.

There appears to be a deal between the senate and house in SC to move forward this week with permitless carry. NC has the votes to pass, but probably not to overcome an almost certain veto. If Mark Robinson wins this November, NC will happen next year.

[WobblyPossum]

Interesting to hear about NC’s odds. I’d love to see both Carolinas pass it.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Has someone mentioned that having a permit has the following advantages:

1. In some states, don't have to do a NICS - still true?
2. Avoids problems with the gun free school zone law.
3. Reciprocity
4. Lets an officer know that you are a good, legal citizen

Having more CC states is good for the cause. But a permit has practical advantages.

[CleverNickname]

Has someone mentioned that having a permit has the following advantages:
1. In some states, don't have to do a NICS - still true?

Yes, and the Louisana permit is one that qualifies under the Brady exemption (https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-permit-chart). Not all state's permits do.

[revchuck38]

Are the streets running with blood yet? ;)


I'll check after lunch. :rolleyes:

Nope, not yet...

[Stephanie B]

Has someone mentioned that having a permit has the following advantages:

1. In some states, don't have to do a NICS - still true?
2. Avoids problems with the gun free school zone law.
3. Reciprocity
4. Lets an officer know that you are a good, legal citizen

Having more CC states is good for the cause. But a permit has practical advantages.

IIRC, when Missouri went to CC, there were a number of advantages written into the law for permit-holders. One was if a store banned carry and you had your heater, with a permit, all they could do was ask you to leave. CC, they could have you charged with trespass. I think there was something about cities (every tiny burg there is a "city") could ban OC for CC but not for permit-holders.

Maybe they've fixed that in the last seven years, I dunno.

[revchuck38]

IIRC, when Missouri went to CC, there were a number of advantages written into the law for permit-holders. One was if a store banned carry and you had your heater, with a permit, all they could do was ask you to leave. CC, they could have you charged with trespass. I think there was something about cities (every tiny burg there is a "city") could ban OC for CC but not for permit-holders.

Maybe they've fixed that in the last seven years, I dunno.

In LA, if a store bans carry and asks you to leave and you refuse, you can be charged with trespass. Of course, they have to catch you carrying first. I usually handle this by not going into places that don't want my business.

[Lex Luthier]

In LA, if a store bans carry and asks you to leave and you refuse, you can be charged with trespass. Of course, they have to catch you carrying first. I usually handle this by not going into places that don't want my business.

There is a similar law on the books in MN. If you’re carrying concealed properly, there’s no issue.

[RoyGBiv]

In LA, if a store bans carry and asks you to leave and you refuse, you can be charged with trespass.

Similar in TX... plus, we have those big ugly signs they can post...
If you get caught carrying past the signs it's a max $200 fine (class C Misd.), but if you fail to exfil when asked, it can be bumped to a Class A.
https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-30-06/

[CleverNickname]

The South Carolina House and Senate successfully reconciled their two bills and the governor may sign the permitless carry bill as early as today. (https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article286284830.html)

[jh9]

IIRC, when Missouri went to CC, there were a number of advantages written into the law for permit-holders.

TX has several (https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/handgun-licensing/ltc-benefits).

I think AZ had something about places that serve alcohol, along with the benefits all state permits/licenses have WRT national parks / school zones due to federal law(?). This (https://arizona.concealedcarry.com/why-get-an-arizona-concealed-carry-permit/) has a lot more stuff but I don't know if it's accurate or not. Sounds right.

[Rex G]

I hope that Louisiana legislators were careful to avoid writing compromises into other parts of the law. Notably, the Texas legislature threw much long gun freedom under the bus, in an apparent exchange for a little bit of gain in handgun carry convenience. In my opinion, giving up a substantial liberty, in exchange for convenience, was a bad deal.

[revchuck38]

I hope that Louisiana legislators were careful to avoid writing compromises into other parts of the law. Notably, the Texas legislature threw much long gun freedom under the bus, in an apparent exchange for a little bit of gain in handgun carry convenience. In my opinion, giving up a substantial liberty, in exchange for convenience, was a bad deal.

I read the bill, and all it does is delete the requirement for a permit and its prerequisites.

[Rex G]

I read the bill, and all it does is delete the requirement for a permit and its prerequisites.

Good news!

[Stephanie B]

I read the bill, and all it does is delete the requirement for a permit and its prerequisites.

Is it only a applicable to state citizens, or residence from other states eligible?

[RoyGBiv]

Is it only a applicable to state citizens, or residence from other states eligible?

"Louisiana resident" language was specifically struck.. Bottom of page 2..
https://legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=1348797

[WobblyPossum]

Looks like SC’a governor just signed the bill. 29 states down, 21 to go.

[mmc45414]

Has someone mentioned that having a permit has the following advantages:

1. In some states, don't have to do a NICS - still true?

Yes, and the Louisiana permit is one that qualifies under the Brady exemption (https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-permit-chart). Not all state's permits do.

Ohio was one of those that does, but didn't use to.
Funny, that was how I realized that day that mine had expired. When they changed the process for CHL yours must have been renewed by the revised date in order to skip NICS, and I was looking at mine to see when I would be up for renewal and would be eligible for that new benefit. Turns out it had turned into a pumpkin 6-9mo prior.