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NH Shooter
02-02-2024, 09:30 AM
Worth a look;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPhl1K6OHwE

Guerrero
02-02-2024, 09:40 AM
Worth a look;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPhl1K6OHwE

The ultimate source of this video was (in part) a discussion here on P-F:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?55332-Todd-Louis-Green-and-the-modern-approach-to-using-your-sights

GJM
02-02-2024, 10:01 AM
The ultimate source of this video was (in part) a discussion here on P-F:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?55332-Todd-Louis-Green-and-the-modern-approach-to-using-your-sights

This looks pretty PF influenced, right down to a 20 gauge 1301!

https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/some-new-guns-we-might-review-later/

Guerrero
02-02-2024, 10:42 AM
This looks pretty PF influenced, right down to a 20 gauge 1301!

https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/some-new-guns-we-might-review-later/

I seem to remember the Chis Baker has an account here LGChris . I sometimes wonder if the content of his videos is more than coincidence to the discussions here.

GyroF-16
02-02-2024, 10:54 AM
That’s good stuff!
I remember someone here (maybe it was Ash, who was in the video) try to explain it with text a year or so ago. I “kinda” got it, but the concept didn’t stick.
The explanation with the visual aides was really helpful. I’ve found that as my uncorrected near-vision has degraded, I’ve evolved to looking “through” the sights (effectively target-focused) while just “observing” the sights while shooting. I guess it took near-vision limitations to teach me to focus on the target. Maybe this video explanation will help others make that adjustment much earlier.
(Not to say that this video emphasizes target-focused shooting, but it’s kind of implied, and works well with the “rear sight as a windshield” concept.)

Trooper224
02-02-2024, 11:33 AM
That's taking a very long way around the barn to describe what we used to call a flash sight picture.

GyroF-16
02-02-2024, 02:37 PM
That's taking a very long way around the barn to describe what we used to call a flash sight picture.

Maybe… I recall being introduced to the “flash sight picture” at Gunsight in 2003, but don’t remember the emphasis on the rear sight, or using the notch in the rear sight to “scale” how precise the front sight alignment needed to be. Or maybe I spaced out when those elements were described.

breakingtime91
02-02-2024, 02:41 PM
I think our very own TC has a video out describing the rear sight as a windshield. really good video I have shared with new shooters.

Trooper224
02-02-2024, 03:13 PM
Maybe… I recall being introduced to the “flash sight picture” at Gunsight in 2003, but don’t remember the emphasis on the rear sight, or using the notch in the rear sight to “scale” how precise the front sight alignment needed to be. Or maybe I spaced out when those elements were described.

I don't know what it had morphed into by the aughts, but circa 1985 that was pretty much it. I'm not criticizing, but everything is cyclical.

NH Shooter
02-02-2024, 03:30 PM
Maybe… I recall being introduced to the “flash sight picture” at Gunsight in 2003, but don’t remember the emphasis on the rear sight, or using the notch in the rear sight to “scale” how precise the front sight alignment needed to be. Or maybe I spaced out when those elements were described.

That is the main learning point for me.

NETim
02-02-2024, 04:02 PM
The presenters looked a little on the shady side. :) I never once thought about using the rear sight gap for a reference. I just thought it was the place the fuzzy bumpy thing was supposed to go.

Thanks!

Trooper224
02-02-2024, 04:10 PM
I think we all may use the rear sight as an initial reference, whether we realize it or not. I know that if I pay close attention, which I don't often do having done it for so long, I find that the rear sight is my initial point of reference as the gun moves into my peripheral vision. My process seems to be, target, rear sight, front sight, shot.

Chuck Whitlock
02-02-2024, 06:59 PM
I really like the analogy of driving a car, and it's an important counterpoint to "Front Sight! Front Sight! Front sight!".