New Staccato for SHOT 24

[JSGlock34]

Staccato just dropped this on their Instagram account. Evolution of the CS into a larger size?

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[El Cid]

Interesting. I’ve never looked at their lineup and saw a missing size. I just wish they’d offer colors like grey, OD, or FDE. But not Sniper Grey like Aimpoint recently adopted. A real grey. lol!

[Tokarev]

Staccato just dropped this on their Instagram account. Evolution of the CS into a larger size?

114167I think it was Hilton Yam who first suggested the new magazine format would bleed over into models. This only seems logical in the overall evolution of the 2011. As more and more clones come to market Staccato will need to do something to distinguish itself. Using a new smaller magazine across the entire family only makes sense. It will initially alienate the legacy users but new owners and possible future contract purchasers won't care if old STI mags won't fit.

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[JSGlock34]

Yeah, I don't think there is any great mystery to the direction Staccato is headed. I suspect this release will eventually supplant the C2 in the lineup, and that a 'duty-sized' frame with 17 round magazines will eventually move into the space currently occupied by the P. While everyone focuses on the magazine design, I'd think the external extractor would have appeal for institutional users.

[GJM]

Most interesting Staccato to date.

[WobblyPossum]

Ever since the CS was released I figured they’d update the rest of the product line to use those magazines. I’m guessing this is a C2 that’s been updated with the CS features. Every year they seem to make it harder and harder not to buy one.

[jh9]

Wait, hang on. The CS uses different magazines than the rest of their 2011s?

Is it some smaller / EDC X9-ish type thing?

[GJM]

Wait, hang on. The CS uses different magazines than the rest of their 2011s?

Is it some smaller / EDC X9-ish type thing?

A magazine designed around a 9mm cartridge not a .38 Super length cartridge.

[BillSWPA]

A magazine designed around a 9mm cartridge not a .38 Super length cartridge.

If/when I get into 2011’s this will be high in the list of features I would seek. I hope above posts are correct that the CS magazine configuration is being used for more guns.

[TOTS]

All I have ever wanted is a commander built around the Macro magazines. Maybe this is it?

[rayrevolver]

If companies can make 2011-frankenguns work with Glock and Sig mags, I am hoping Staccato can make a new 2011 grip module that works with the new CS mag.

That said, my current stable of mags is good vice 3 bad boys. 2 are Springfield mags and 1 is a Staccato Gen 2. These 3 all do the same thing and get rounds stuck mid-magazine. I have another 10 or 12 STI/Staccato mags that work along with 1 old MBX 10rd that works.

If I could sell them all and get the Gen 3 mags, I would. Or even the new Atlas mags. Its hard for us Marylanders to make this happen though. So if the CS are even better mags overall, I would love to wholesale swap my 2011 stuff for CS mags and a grip module.

[acaixguard]

This looks like the silhouette of the CS. Same dimensions especially how much of the slide actually extends in front of the dust cover.
This is likely a CS offered in another color, such as FDE.

[JSGlock34]

This looks like the silhouette of the CS. Same dimensions especially how much of the slide actually extends in front of the dust cover.
This is likely a CS offered in another color, such as FDE.

While I disagree that the silhouette is that of the CS (the overall length of the CS is shorter - the silhouette is almost exactly C2 dimensions), it does appear that some CS options are coming, as this photo of a CS with an island sight is making the rounds. Personally I can't get excited about this - as an optic user I don't see much utility for the island sight - but I guess it's kinda neat?

https://www.1911addicts.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=192 0,fit=scale-down/https://www.1911addicts.com/attachments/1705850646985-png.1486484/

[goryan]

i been waiting for a longer barrel cs. guess we'll find out tomorrow!

[Noah]

https://youtu.be/2o2ZorXhFks?si=58svk2Oz2xgMWDg8

[psalms144.1]

https://youtu.be/2o2ZorXhFks?si=58svk2Oz2xgMWDg8Interesting. But, the way that "Chief Marketing Officer" kept muzzling his hand during the video makes me uber cringy...

[CleverNickname]

A CS with a half-inch longer barrel is a big yawn from me. Give me a P with CS-format-but-longer mags, or a CS with an XC-style integrated compensator.

[GJM]

Interesting. But, the way that "Chief Marketing Officer" kept muzzling his hand during the video makes me uber cringy...

Agreed. Both his words and gun handling suggested someone less skilled than I would have expected.

[BillSWPA]

When the CS came out, I liked everything but thought a 3.5" barrel was too short for a gun with a grip long enough for all 3 fingers. A 4" barrel would be ideal for IWB carry, and could potentially make the gun/holster combination more stable. I like the shorter grip frame of the CS but the availability of a full size grip frame is nice for those who prefer that size.

The Chief Marketing Officer is clearly too comfortable with the gun, and presents a perfect example of why I detest forward slide serrations.

[Elwin]

When the CS came out, I liked everything but thought a 3.5" barrel was too short for a gun with a grip long enough for all 3 fingers. A 4" barrel would be ideal for IWB carry, and could potentially make the gun/holster combination more stable. I like the shorter grip frame of the CS but the availability of a full size grip frame is nice for those who prefer that size.

The Chief Marketing Officer is clearly too comfortable with the gun, and presents a perfect example of why I detest forward slide serrations.

Agreed on the slide length. I also found the proportions of the CS offputting, and if I was in the market for a Staccato, this is exactly the model I would have been waiting for.

Also yeah, cringe-inducing gun handling. I have a strong preference for forward serrations on an optics gun (based on my experience so far) but... that's not how I use them.

[Tokarev]

https://youtu.be/mrdLpbx410o?si=yZS2CUlVJIzqekXE

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[Tokarev]

https://youtu.be/aaJiKFUwXh4?si=xbGyx4_w4FojQ7VE

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[paherne]

A magazine designed around a 9mm cartridge not a .38 Super length cartridge.

I don't think they had the capital at the time, but for institutional users if Staccato had marketed a .356 TSW version with duty and practice loads available, I bet it would have gotten a ton of traction.

[GJM]

So CS design features eventually to rest of line up, range and match ammo, and training.

[GJM]

A CS with a half-inch longer barrel is a big yawn from me. Give me a P with CS-format-but-longer mags, or a CS with an XC-style integrated compensator.

As I recall, you have a CS. How is that going and why not a four inch version?

[JSGlock34]

It's an interesting approach. Not sure what I think about it yet. With the larger grip module and 4" slide, it isn't far off from the original 4.15" P specs. There were also folks who took the 4.15" guns and put on the 'VIP' grip to use the shorter 120mm magazines...

[GJM]

It's an interesting approach. Not sure what I think about it yet. With the larger grip module and 4" slide, it isn't far off from the original 4.15" P specs. There were also folks who took the 4.15" guns and put on the 'VIP' grip to use the shorter 120mm magazines...

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[CleverNickname]

As I recall, you have a CS. How is that going and why not a four inch version?
It's not that I think a 4" barrel is better or worse than a 3.5" barrel, it's just that I don't think the half-inch difference either way is much of anything. If they had a 4" CS already and then announced a 3.5" CS I think my reaction would be the same.

[60167]

I think the external extractor will make thus gun make sense from an institutional perspective.

[HCM]

It's not that I think a 4" barrel is better or worse than a 3.5" barrel, it's just that I don't think the half-inch difference either way is much of anything. If they had a 4" CS already and then announced a 3.5" CS I think my reaction would be the same.

Does a full size WML fit on the 3.5” ?

I suspect a full size WML would fit on a 4”.

A 4” with a 16 or 18 round mag/grip is basically a G19/G45 format.

[CleverNickname]

Does a full size WML fit on the 3.5” ?

I suspect a full size WML would fit on a 4”.

A 4” with a 16 or 18 round mag/grip is basically a G19/G45 format.

What do you consider full-size? I have a TLR7A on my CS.

[HCM]

What do you consider full-size? I have a TLR7A on my CS.

Not that.

An X300 /TLR-1 /Modlite 350.

The TLR7A is a good compromise for concealed carry guns. But it’s la king in Candela vs full size lights. That matters in outdoor environments trying to look through tinted auto glass at night, etc..

But Stacatto claims to be primarily a duty gun company. In 2024 duty guns get full size /full power duty lights.

The new gun might be a yawn for you because it doesn’t fit your needs but not everything is for you or me.

I have large hands and prefer the original 2011 grip /mag size. This new gun makes me wonder how much longer they will continue making the C-2. I probably need to grab one if I want one. I’ll leave the slimmer guns for T-Rex, Donald Trump and creepy small handed carnival workers.