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breakingtime91
01-18-2024, 10:08 PM
So, I am one of a handful of people who probably still carries a p2000. The one downside to the gun, for me personally, is the lack of sight options but the merits of the pistol make me feel fine carrying it with blacked out rears (thank you sharpie) and a meprolight white front. This gun shines with irons so right now I have no intention of milling it for a dot, so my search for iron sights has continue the last year that I have settled on this gun and done away with my gun changing ways.


I was recently informed that the VP9or and the P2000 share the same dovetails. Are there any iron sights for the VP9or that should hit point of aim/point of impact for the p2000?


I found this listing with measurements but it seems overall sight height, not blade. if it is overall, it seems to be close to the p2000 trijicon bright and tough (https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/hk09o)

https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/51000937



Thoughts?

CCT125US
01-18-2024, 10:13 PM
Tagged in as I'm the other guy who carries a P2000/Sk.

breakingtime91
01-18-2024, 10:16 PM
Tagged in as I'm the other guy who carries a P2000/Sk.

one of us, one of us.

45dotACP
01-18-2024, 10:28 PM
My P2000SK is probably the gun I like the best as an AIWB carry option. Basically the factory night sights have been perfect for me. Maybe I'll put some orange nail polish on the front sight. I'm in the process of vetting it (lmao it's an HK, who am I kidding?) and think it's likely going to replace the Glock 26 I typically carry just because I like the LEM thing way more than I thought I would. So of the three of us, I'll probably vote for the stock night sights (also because home ownership has made being a member of the gun/gadget of thr month club untenable)

fatdog
01-18-2024, 10:30 PM
I carry a P2000 light LEM currently, mine has Trijicon HD sights intended for it HK109o (https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/hk109o) and they are reasonable POA=POI, both for .40 and 9mm. I ended up paying about $140 for each set at Midway. Way better than factory sights for my old eyes.

breakingtime91
01-18-2024, 10:37 PM
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Here mine is after a year of carry. Figured the thread could use some pics. This pistol was the first thing I shot after 9 months of recovery after a finger surgery. After a cold bill drill to get a reference, I cleared the test in a smoking time and score. It just works, is accurate, and I wish it was more supported.



Do you hear me PF. I took a month off from social forums and now I want the p2000 to make a come back :cool: .

SwampDweller
01-18-2024, 11:06 PM
While I don't own one, the P2000 is right up there with the USP and P30 as one of the finest pistols available for serious use. The $499 one on PSA is extremely tempting, but it's in .40. If I were to go with a .40, though, the P2000 would be one of 3 contenders since HK's are designed to handle that round.

Keeping an eye on this thread for the answer, as I may get one to go with my HK45C.

HCM
01-19-2024, 01:49 AM
one of us, one of us.


https://youtu.be/39Bnk6VU53Y?si=CUB0w2GHsLpCk_xJ

fatdog
01-19-2024, 05:23 AM
Figured the thread could use some pics.

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CCT125US
01-19-2024, 06:30 AM
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Noah
01-19-2024, 09:14 AM
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What sights are those?

Screwball
01-19-2024, 09:15 AM
I put Meprolights on my P2000, only because that is what my old duty gun had.

Tuefelhunden
01-19-2024, 12:28 PM
Ditto the Meprolights. I still carry a P2000 V3 almost exclusively. I've left my sights alone on the P2000's but have added Mepro's to a few USP's. I'd have to double check but I think the factory night sights are Trijicons.

GJM
01-19-2024, 01:40 PM
I want to play, too:

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I have never felt the HK triggers were impediments to EDC use, but believe you get less performance for your ability. I would be curious what the CBP qual stats show with the change to the Glock (although the caliber change no doubt was a significant factor).

UpDok
01-19-2024, 01:52 PM
I bought and installed the standard factory Meprolight sights on my $500 .40 LEM P2000 that I got on sale at PSA. The sights came with a bunch of tee shirts & coffee mugs with the end of year $200 marketing extravaganza rebate from HK.

The standard HK night sights fit well and shoot point of aim for me. They are relatively low profile without any outstanding sharp edges. It is very comfortable for AIWB carry

GJM
01-19-2024, 02:02 PM
I bought and installed the standard factory Meprolight sights on my $500 .40 LEM P2000 that I got on sale at PSA. The sights came with a bunch of tee shirts & coffee mugs with the end of year $200 marketing extravaganza rebate from HK.

The standard HK night sights fit well and shoot point of aim for me. They are relatively low profile without any outstanding sharp edges. It is very comfortable for AIWB carry

I like putting orange paint around the tritium on the front OEM sight.

fatdog
01-19-2024, 02:09 PM
I want to play, too:.....

have never felt the HK triggers were impediments to EDC use, but believe you get less performance for your ability. I would be curious what the CBP qual stats show with the change to the Glock (although the caliber change no doubt was a significant factor).

Your magazine was not correctly configured for an authentic HK picture....just sayin...

MGW
01-19-2024, 04:16 PM
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What you did there. I see it.

Sights are one thing that has kept me from seriously working with a P2000. And money. Good gosh, they are expensive. I like the P2000 size. Kind of in between a P30 and P30sk. And I've always liked the ergos of the P2sk better than the P30sk.

GJM
01-19-2024, 04:43 PM
Your magazine was not correctly configured for an authentic HK picture....just sayin...

Why wasn't I clever enough to have flipped a cartridge for the photo!

breakingtime91
01-19-2024, 06:35 PM
I want to play, too:

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I have never felt the HK triggers were impediments to EDC use, but believe you get less performance for your ability. I would be curious what the CBP qual stats show with the change to the Glock (although the caliber change no doubt was a significant factor).

George, I know you know all of this but posting incase someone new to the HK LEM/HK pistol discussion here on PF wonders in.

I tend to shoot a striker fired trigger and 1911 trigger better than a lem if I took a break from all three but we are splitting hairs of high performance (for me, at my skill level, at this moment). I think the biggest question when going with HK LEM is if you are willing to work with the fact that it is more difficult to shoot at high level to gain their positives. The positives being reliability, accuracy, a hammer to block for appendix carry without the need to de-cock, and that beneficial long but light trigger pull.

Admittedly the advantages that LEM HKs had back in the early 2013-15 on PF (gosh has it been almost 10 years?) were that they were reliable and accurate while most other popular guns (gen 4 glock extraction/ no gadget and mp 9 accuracy issues) were kind of a crap shoot. Now there is a wide assortment of reliable and affordable guns, so it really comes to down to comfort.


The p2000 is comfortable to carry and disappears with irons, carrying like a much smaller gun while holding 14 rounds in a double stack compact duty configuration. The other comfort, the most important to me, is it minimizes my risk of a loud bang if I am negligent or have a fuck up. That aspect for me is more important than the differences I saw on drills between a LEM trigger and the other options I have tried.

HCM
01-19-2024, 06:55 PM
The P2000 /2000SK are G19/G26 sized, and IME carry better than the USPC due to the shape.

Durability, reliability are the same. Those in CBP who had legacy USPC’s tended to hold on to them as the USPC usually has a smoother trigger pull. When you are mandated to use the heavier version of LEM every little bit helps.

In my experience, they are really really nice guns in 9 millimeter.

However, while the .40s hold up like tanks, overall shooting them is a miserable experience. Like shooting a Glock 23 with a worse trigger.

While enthusiasts like those found on PF can shoot the LEM to at least a certain level of competence, my experience, giving large numbers of non-gun people who only shoot because they’re paid to a light midsized gun with hotter than normal 40 and an LEM trigger is it is a recipe for inducing severe anticipation issues.

No amount of “people management” qualities make up for a gun that users anticipate with so badly with that they miss a full size silhouette at 15 or 25 yards.

I was able to shoot the damn things but they were a PITA with the 155 grain ammunition.

GJM mentioned CBP. I recall watch two CBP instructors telling CBPO’s to aim for the scoring diagram in the upper right of the target to Kentucky windage rounds into the center of the actual target. Obviously this is more than an equipment issue but the equipment didn’t help. Especially when the ammo is 135 or 155 grain .40.

breakingtime91
01-19-2024, 07:35 PM
The P2000 /2000SK are G19/G26 sized, and IME carry better than the USPC due to the shape.

Durability, reliability are the same. Those in CBP who had legacy USPC’s tended to hold on to them as the USPC usually has a smoother trigger pull. When you are mandated to use the heavier version of LEM every little bit helps.

In my experience, they are really really nice guns in 9 millimeter.

However, while the .40s hold up like tanks, overall shooting them is a miserable experience. Like shooting a Glock 23 with a worse trigger.

While enthusiasts like those found on PF can shoot the LEM to at least a certain level of competence, my experience, giving large numbers of non-gun people who only shoot because they’re paid to a light midsized gun with hotter than normal 40 and an LEM trigger is it is a recipe for inducing severe anticipation issues.

No amount of “people management” qualities make up for a gun that users anticipate with so badly with that they miss a full size silhouette at 15 or 25 yards.

I was able to shoot the damn things but they were a PITA with the 155 grain ammunition.

GJM mentioned CBP. I recall watch two CBP instructors telling CBPO’s to aim for the scoring diagram in the upper right of the target to Kentucky windage rounds into the center of the actual target. Obviously this is more than an equipment issue but the equipment didn’t help. Especially when the ammo is 135 or 155 grain .40.

I can't disagree with any of that, very well put. If you want to use LEM to a high level and avoid some of the shortfalls, you either need to be a high level shooter or dedicate yourself solely to that trigger because there aren't any others quite like it. With that said, I heard the LTT work that they do on the DA/SA hks is quite nice, so a more traditional trigger arrangement is possible.

CCT125US
01-20-2024, 06:53 AM
What sights are those?

Night Fision (P30) front sight. Rear is a 10-8 Performance, 1911 Low Mount, with .125w notch, milled .275 high, cut down for an HK dovetail, drilled and tapped for set screw.

The 10-8 contained what I needed, I just had to have it cut out.

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DLWinner
01-20-2024, 08:33 AM
I like the trijicon hd sights personally.

MGW
01-20-2024, 08:39 AM
Is there any holster compatibility between the P2000 and the 45c or P30? What about other 9mm HK magazines?

Final question, maybe, has anyone found a spring configuration that gets the P2000 close to Todd’s LEM set up?

This is embarrassing. I was looking through old posts for this information. Apparently I owned an LEM P2000 at one point. I swear that it was a TDA version but I think I must have confused it with the 45C I use to own. It sucks getting old and having gun induced ADD.

flyrodr
01-20-2024, 09:07 AM
I like the trijicon hd sights personally.

Ditto

breakingtime91
01-20-2024, 09:36 AM
GJM are the p2000 hds sharp like other models of hds?

GJM
01-20-2024, 10:31 AM
GJM are the p2000 hds sharp like other models of hds?

There is some variation between individual examples of HD sights, but what makes them work for me is the position of the dovetail and that the rear sight doesn't go to the rear of the slide. I like them
In the USP FS for the same reason.

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jh9
01-20-2024, 10:41 AM
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Same. Trijicon HDs. Yellow is a lot more visible for me than orange but that probably varies from person to person.

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UpDok
01-20-2024, 12:19 PM
Here is a quick shot of the Heckler & Koch part# 702071F Meprolight Tru Dot tritium night sights I installed on my P2000 LEM .40 pistol. They were free with the big $200 rebate "year-end extravaganza" that just ended on 12/31/2023. I assume the part# 702071F Meprolights are the same night sights that HK USA installs as original equipment on the P2000 option with night sights.

I like these sights more than the VP9-OR sights I had previously installed on the P2000.

I originally carried this P2000 in a JM custom Kydex AIWB designated for a P30. but then picked up a new AIWB holster from JM custom for the P2000. My P30 does not easily fit in the P2000 holster, but the P2000 drops in loosely to the P30 holster.

I really like this pistol! The P2000 is a "Goldilocks" size.

Screwball
01-20-2024, 12:36 PM
I would be curious what the CBP qual stats show with the change to the Glock (although the caliber change no doubt was a significant factor).

Prior to the Glock, and granted the course of fire was noticeably different… out of 60 people, we would get 20 with a perfect score. This is one practice to warm up, then the best score out of two.

This last qualification, we had less than 20 not get a perfect score. I’d have to recount, but probably around 12 officers. And that was in the cold, with some new officers never dealing with ME winters.

Sero Sed Serio
01-22-2024, 02:07 PM
I've been very happy with the Dawson Chargers that I have on my P2000. I much prefer a .125 front, so Trijicon/Meprolight/whoever else does P2000 sights wasn't an option. I was able to choose my rear width, so I have my preferred .145 rear paired with the thinner front. They can also do custom heights based on your POI if needed, but mine shot where I wanted it to with the factory sights, so I just told them that and sent in the slide. Not the cheapest, but definitely done right, and worth it to me with some mangling I've seen with local sight installations on non-Glocks.

Sorry for the pics...in a location where it isn't exactly socially "acceptable" to pull out the gat out for good pics.

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HK_Dave
02-14-2024, 05:01 AM
i want to play too!

my P2000 .40 has been my EDC for about 15 years now. never thought about changing the stock sights. maybe it's time...