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steve
11-08-2023, 02:45 PM
Lots of people asked for it but will they buy it?
If someone can make it so the info appears without having to click it please do so. I tried looking it up and failed.
https://taloinc.com/news/talo-introduces-the-glock-g49-mos-to-us-market
https://taloinc.com/product/glock-49mos-introduction
Yay.
Interesting to see the info published on Talo's website first. No word from Glock yet afaik ?
Don't all of us with a Glock 47 already have one of these with our various bits and pieces of perfection?
Glenn E. Meyer
11-08-2023, 03:25 PM
If you put a RDS on an MOS gun, why do you care about having a longer sight radius as the blurb says.
The G49 MOS is essentially a G19 size grip frame with a G17 size slide, taking advantage of the proven carry frame size with a longer barrel and sight radius. This pistol is chambered in 9mm Luger, holds 15+1 rounds in standard magazine capacity, has a 4.49” barrel, Gen 5 characteristics, and the MOS system for mounting optics.
What am I not seeing?
steve
11-08-2023, 03:26 PM
Don't all of us with a Glock 47 already have one of these with our various bits and pieces of perfection?
When sales are low Glock can say it was just a special run. Some will buy it because it has a 49 on it.
I just want a 26X.
If you put a RDS on an MOS gun, why do you care about having a longer sight radius as the blurb says.
What am I not seeing?
Folks have different preferences for how a gun cycles, and may prefer a 47 length slide to a 19, irrespective of sight radius. Heck, there may even be that one guy out there, who claims the additional sight radius with his back up irons is meaningful. :p
Cool Breeze
11-08-2023, 03:31 PM
after over 20 years of people asking for it, it is finally here! I may have lost interest somewhere back there.
If you put a RDS on an MOS gun, why do you care about having a longer sight radius as the blurb says.
What am I not seeing?
That's kind of been the argument I've seen on the forum over the past five years or so, if you have a red dot the G45 (G19) slide length is what you want so you get flatter recoil impulse. However, I recently happened on to Ben Stoeger's YouTube channel and noticed he's gone Glock and chose the G34 and optic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmU2mtaLLgw
Glenn E. Meyer
11-08-2023, 03:39 PM
I still don't get it. How the gun cycles - in my naive mind, the slide goes back and forth, the round come up and bullet goes out, the empty flies away. I don't recall significant performance at the 17 vs. 19 length in zombie killing. But if it sells, why not!
Is it a millisecond game thing?
I still don't get it. How the gun cycles - in my naive mind, the slide goes back and forth, the round come up and bullet goes out, the empty flies away. I don't recall significant performance at the 17 vs. 19 length in zombie killing. But if it sells, why not!
Is it a millisecond game thing?
It's how the gun tracks up and down under recoil effects how efficiently the gun returns to Point of Aim.
The quicker / closer gun returns to POA the sooner you are able to fire your next shot accurately.
Timers and targets don't lie.
Glenn E. Meyer
11-08-2023, 04:05 PM
So people like a longer 17 slide and 19 grip because it helps them shoot better. Then there are folks who like a 19 slide and a 17 grip because it helps them shoot better. Then there are the 34s. Does it mean anything on DA STREETZ.
But if you put a light on the gun, that makes you shoot better, if you put weights on the bottom of the magazines.
OH, I get it.
So people like a longer 17 slide and 19 grip because it helps them shoot better. Then there are folks who like a 19 slide and a 17 grip because it helps them shoot better. Then there are the 34s. Does it mean anything on DA STREETZ.
But if you put a light on the gun, that makes you shoot better, if you put weights on the bottom of the magazines.
OH, I get it.
Face it, Glock could probably take any of their 9 mm pistols, make them in a different color, call that a new model and people would be lined up to buy them.
fatdog
11-08-2023, 04:18 PM
after over 20 years of people asking for it, it is finally here! I may have lost interest somewhere back there.
Over the last 25 years I have had plastic surgeons build me a pair, my brotherinlaw took one of them home, I will probably buy one of these next year with my GSSF blue label coupon when they are finally available in that blue label channel.
Totem Polar
11-08-2023, 04:47 PM
after over 20 years of people asking for it, it is finally here! I may have lost interest somewhere back there.
This.
By all means, though, wake me up when we get the G26 long slide.
texasaggie2005
11-08-2023, 04:47 PM
... I have had plastic surgeons build me a pair ...
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/029/610/cover10.jpg
So people like a longer 17 slide and 19 grip because it helps them shoot better. Then there are folks who like a 19 slide and a 17 grip because it helps them shoot better. Then there are the 34s. Does it mean anything on DA STREETZ.
But if you put a light on the gun, that makes you shoot better, if you put weights on the bottom of the magazines.
OH, I get it.
There are G17 grip people and there are G19 grip people.
Glock must be watching my IG page and posts here on P-F.com, saw how cool that set up is and decided to follow my lead.
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When sales are low Glock can say it was just a special run. Some will buy it because it has a 49 on it.
I just want a 26X.
I did a 26 macro.
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Biggy
11-08-2023, 06:22 PM
IMHO, after 5 generations of pistols Glock has finally got along with their pistol's reliability, simplicity and durability, their now improved accuracy with their Marksmen barrel. I believe these characteristics are now about as good as they are going to get them. But due to Glock’s rigid design philosophy and their own idea of perfection they have very incremental changes from generation to generation.
To “me” a pistols reliability of function is around 80% of the total package. It’s got to work with decent ammo every time with no excuses. To me the ultimate Glock pistol would be very similar to the Zev 0Z9 pistol, but with Glock's proven reliability, which I do not believe Zev is quite there yet. For *most people* the Zev's 1911 *type* grip angle is more natural pointing along with better grip frame ergonomics (undercut trigger guard, etc.. Yeah, you can kind of train around the grip angle, but like a cross eyed wife the Glock grip angle will always be a design flaw for many people and is always there.
I would probably add interchangeable back strap sizes to the grip module for different hand sizes and also an Agency Arms excellent (AOS) optic slide cut which is arguably the lowest, most secure and most versatile one available. The Zev chassis system adds a little more forward weight and adds much more rigidity to the grip frame, beefier slide guide rails and the ability to go from a full size to compact size grip module.The OZ9 also uses many Glock OEM compatible slide and fire control parts. Also, just like Glock pistols it is compatible with a Glock SCD, which *I*really like when carrying AIWB.
If possible maybe they could add the Glock 46's rotory barrel, so no comp needed and no increase in muzzle blast or a loss in ammo FPS. Glock could also probably design the whole pistol around stack and a half non over molded mags and shrink the grip thickness by around .100”. I would not be surprised to see a Gen 6 Glock introduced either at this year's or next year's SHOT Show.
I really like Glocks, but can’t keep track of all the options they have now. To me, they are now like the Apple iPhone of the gun industry. Every few months, they make a minor change and all the tacticool guys need to upgrade! New grip textures, with or without finger grooves, ambi controls, single or double stack, regular frame or slim frame, etc. All that said, my G19 gen 4 is still my bedside gun
IMO I think a long slide g19 really is the least desirable when shooting it. I rather shoot a g19.
I strongly prefer to shoot a g45 or 47
But tons will like a buy a G49.
1Rangemaster
11-08-2023, 07:17 PM
There are G17 grip people and there are G19 grip people.
Yep; I actually shoot the 17 sized grip a little better(by numbers of plates downed on Rogers tests), but I "like" the 19 envelope better. That's with irons. With an optic mounted, I could clean some tests easier. Glenn E. Meyer: will it get me killed on da streetz...I dunno, but I don't believe it will come down to grip length.
This is coming out for a few reasons: 1) it'll sell, and 2) it's pretty easy for Glock to do. If one runs irons, a bit more sight radius. If one obsesses about muzzle velocity, it's an improvement. So there's the reasons, methinks...
I initially shot a Gen 4 19, the first year CO became a provisional division in USPSA. I was convinced that the 19 cycled flatter. Over time, I came to understand that while I perceived the slide to shoot flatter with a 19, my match performance was better with a 34.
backtrail540
11-08-2023, 07:30 PM
I like the 19 grip for concealment. For gun handling (press checks, muzzle control, racking etc...) i prefer longer slides. This will give me best of both worlds and with a Booth Performance grip anchor, it handles like a 17 with my preferred edge in concealment and grip angle. Were i still running iron sight guns only, then the sight radius would be a plus. While i could buy a 47 and a 19 and make this, i now don't have to buy two and have a mutant that i don't want left over (i don't like the g45, personally).
El Cid
11-08-2023, 07:37 PM
I “made” one years ago thanks to Brownells.
https://i.imgur.io/8Fpf5FJ_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
1Rangemaster
11-08-2023, 08:01 PM
I initially shot a Gen 4 19, the first year CO became a provisional division in USPSA. I was convinced that the 19 cycled flatter. Over time, I came to understand that while I perceived the slide to shoot flatter with a 19, my match performance was better with a 34.
So I'm clear, you shot the 34 with an optic mounted?
If that's the case, then the longer frame was probably a benefit; the 19 slide has a shorter cycle-so flatter-but the 34 was probably giving you a better draw, reloads and maybe some "balance" in your hands. I'd hazard a shooter at your level in a self defense situation that might not matter much. Other factors come into play, like awareness, decisiveness-you went to school-you know!
Hell, I'm looking at a 26MOS as a retirement carry gun!
Squib308
11-08-2023, 08:24 PM
Me wants a Glock 46, not 49!
LukeNCMX
11-08-2023, 08:59 PM
A Glock 49 plus a Booth Grip Anchor (https://langdontactical.com/grip-anchor-for-the-glock-19/) might be an interesting performer.
Since I started hooking my index finger on the trigger guard, the shorter 19 grip no longer feels small, and I prefer the feel to the 17/45 grip. Really sold on the LTT grip anchor.
LukeNCMX
11-08-2023, 09:23 PM
Really sold on the LTT grip anchor.
I am also a big fan of it. It reminded me of how much I liked the old RCS Freya magwell on the gen 3 and 4 19s.
Since I started hooking my index finger on the trigger guard, the shorter 19 grip no longer feels small, and I prefer the feel to the 17/45 grip. Really sold on the LTT grip anchor.
Gadfly
11-08-2023, 09:58 PM
Not gonna lie, I have wanted this set up for a LONG time.
But as others have noted, in the age of RDS, it is way late to the party.
The way I see things now, being able to get the different grip length/size, while having the same slide length, allows me to use the same holsters for multiple guns. For many, this wont matter, but with safariland duty gear that utilize a peg to secure the end of the barrel, slide length matters. With duty holsters costing over 100 a pop, having one slide length for several grip sizes makes sense. So I can have a 17/49 combo, or a 19/45 combo and not need as many duty holsters.
That is the only real advantage I see here.
My son already has a 19, and has 3 holsters. I can gift him a G45, and there is no need to have new holsters, but he will have a full size grip to start to use for competition.
(long time, no post. I still lurk, but have just been taking a break from some social media...)
Cool Breeze
11-08-2023, 10:00 PM
There are G17 grip people and there are G19 grip people.
I fall in the middle. I prefer shooting g17 sized frames but carry a g19 for easier concealment. Every once in awhile I try to talk myself into carrying a g17 though. The struggle is real. :cool:
I fall in the middle. I prefer shooting g17 sized frames but carry a g19 for easier concealment. Every once in awhile I try to talk myself into carrying a g17 though. The struggle is real. :cool:
IME People shoot one or the other better. Timers and targets don’t lie.
There is no middle.
Gadfly
11-08-2023, 10:36 PM
IME People shoot one or the other better. Timers and targets don’t lie.
There is no middle.
I am FAR better and more comfortable with shooting the 17. But realistically the 19 is easier to hide. The Gen 5 is the first 19 I have remotely liked. Now that they have the smaller grip diameter, larger mag release button, no finger groves, etc... the 19 has finally become an option I would consider.
Of course, with that said, I find myself carrying a P365 90% of the time.
Wonder9
11-08-2023, 11:05 PM
IME People shoot one or the other better. Timers and targets don’t lie.
There is no middle.
I shoot the Gen3 17 significantly better than the Gen3 19
With the Gen4/Gen5, I shoot the G19 better than the 17/45.
Totem Polar
11-08-2023, 11:35 PM
Maybe people will shoot even moar left with this thing. ;)
Duelist
11-09-2023, 12:42 AM
Face it, Glock could probably take any of their 9 mm pistols, make them in a different color, call that a new model and people would be lined up to buy them.
They did exactly that, didn’t they? G19X > G45.
Duelist
11-09-2023, 12:56 AM
Not gonna lie, I have wanted this set up for a LONG time.
But as others have noted, in the age of RDS, it is way late to the party.
The way I see things now, being able to get the different grip length/size, while having the same slide length, allows me to use the same holsters for multiple guns. For many, this wont matter, but with safariland duty gear that utilize a peg to secure the end of the barrel, slide length matters. With duty holsters costing over 100 a pop, having one slide length for several grip sizes makes sense. So I can have a 17/49 combo, or a 19/45 combo and not need as many duty holsters.
That is the only real advantage I see here.
My son already has a 19, and has 3 holsters. I can gift him a G45, and there is no need to have new holsters, but he will have a full size grip to start to use for competition.
(long time, no post. I still lurk, but have just been taking a break from some social media...)
G19X + G26 + G44, use mostly G19 size holsters for all, unless a particular situation is better with a G26 length holster for the G26. whenever I am tempted to get a G17 or G34, the cost/hassle of getting new holsters is part of why I haven’t so far.
camsdaddy
11-09-2023, 07:16 AM
Is this a 19 grip with a 19 hump or a 19 grip with a 17 hump? I guess Im wondering if this is the same as a cut down 17 or is it a long slide 19?
This isn’t what I asked for. I want a 43 that takes 43x magazines. Also a 43x in .22 LR.
jandbj
11-09-2023, 07:49 AM
Is this a 19 grip with a 19 hump or a 19 grip with a 17 hump? I guess Im wondering if this is the same as a cut down 17 or is it a long slide 19?
Long slide G19. All existing parts.
The only change is the number on the slide changing from 47 to 49.
Same gun you’d get with a 47 slide on a Gen5 G19 frame.
Trukinjp13
11-09-2023, 07:51 AM
Just give me a grip without the hump please.
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Folks have different preferences for how a gun cycles, and may prefer a 47 length slide to a 19, irrespective of sight radius. Heck, there may even be that one guy out there, who claims the additional sight radius with his back up irons is meaningful. :p
I would have preferred this over the 2nd 47 I bought. Glad to see it.
Nephrology
11-09-2023, 09:51 AM
I really like Glocks, but can’t keep track of all the options they have now. To me, they are now like the Apple iPhone of the gun industry. Every few months, they make a minor change and all the tacticool guys need to upgrade! New grip textures, with or without finger grooves, ambi controls, single or double stack, regular frame or slim frame, etc. All that said, my G19 gen 4 is still my bedside gun
What is funny is they didn't used to be. Go back in time 10 years or so and the M&P Shield had come out, some of us were still futzing with Kahrs, and everyone was screaming for a single stack glock. The Gen 3 was the only especially meaningful upgrade to the series in a while. I remember when the Gen 4 pistols came out and thinking wow I gotta get me one of those!
Up1911Fan
11-09-2023, 10:12 AM
I carried one of these for-4-5 years before making the switch to RDS guns. As an iron sighted gun I think it's the best of both worlds. As an RDS gun I don't see a major advantage over a 19 unless you want every last FPS out of your carry ammo.
jandbj
11-09-2023, 10:21 AM
I carried one of these for-4-5 years before making the switch to RDS guns. As an iron sighted gun I think it's the best of both worlds. As an RDS gun I don't see a major advantage over a 19 unless you want every last FPS out of your carry ammo.
Agree. But in the realties of the market these days, everyone wants their own special snowflake. And they all sell.
I have SWAT/SRT cops from different depts running everything from G19MOS, G45MOS, G47MOS, and G34MOS... and those are just the Glock depts.
SCCY Marshal
11-09-2023, 11:22 AM
Some extra weight below the belt line helps IWB guns carry better on some people. The little extra velocity will help some of the bulk pack JHP, which real people buy and carry far more commonly than P-F likes, perform more reliably. The reduced muzzle blast that much further from the shooter's face works out for some people. This may be the year of the optic in timer land but normies still run irons and the G17 focal length and/or sight radius works better for some. And this very forum has griped about companies making full grip, short slide pistols when "everyone knows that the butt is the hard part to conceal."
It'll sell like hotcakes, work fine, and a bunch of you will wind up with one. These are my predictions.
This isn’t what I asked for. I want a 43 that takes 43x magazines. Also a 43x in .22 LR.
They'ed have to make a 43/43X that was reliable first.
camsdaddy
11-09-2023, 01:15 PM
The 19L finally is available from the factory. Glock is always a few years/decades behind the want of the community.
Kyle Reese
11-09-2023, 04:36 PM
I'll grab a Blue Label one.
Spartan1980
11-09-2023, 08:22 PM
I still don't get it. How the gun cycles - in my naive mind, the slide goes back and forth, the round come up and bullet goes out, the empty flies away. I don't recall significant performance at the 17 vs. 19 length in zombie killing. But if it sells, why not!
Is it a millisecond game thing?
No it's not a millisecond thing. I can't really tell you what it is either, because it baffles the shit out of me. The only thing I can think of is the ratio of Spring Rate:Slide Weight just makes a better combo in the G26 (for an extreme example) in the area of recoil and sight return to index.
I just shot a GSSF match. I generally shoot The Plates stage last. I took a G17.5 with Dawson sights, a Glock Performance trigger and Talon grip tape. I also took a G26.5 set up the same exact way except for pinky extensions on my mags and an Ameriglo front sight paired with the same exact Dawson rear that rides on the G17. I shoot the guns in the same order on each stage and as mentioned I shoot the plate rack stage last. For the first two stages I was kinda not believing what I was feeling in regards to the brand new (to me) G26. It was an easier gun to shoot than the G17. It was more fun to shoot also.
For a tangible measurement, in four runs on the plate rack I was a total of over 4 seconds faster with the G26 than I was with the G17. Don't recall if I had a makeup shot with the G17, but I know I went clean (6 shots for 6 plates) for all 4 runs with the G26. I was shooting Norma 115 factory ball ammo in both guns.
I made a comment to the RO on one stage about how I now understood why I see so many people raving about the G26 on several forums. I always thought it was just fanboy hype, but I no longer believe that. It really is a damn good little blaster.
Glenn E. Meyer
11-09-2023, 10:22 PM
I have a Gen 3 26 that has been pretty solid and I shoot pretty well. It's my EDC for its concealability. Never felt handicapped by it. The Gen 5s are tempting but so is paying off a wave of bills. I rented the 43 and it didn't do anything for me.
Edster
11-09-2023, 10:59 PM
No it's not a millisecond thing. I can't really tell you what it is either, because it baffles the shit out of me. The only thing I can think of is the ratio of Spring Rate:Slide Weight just makes a better combo in the G26 (for an extreme example) in the area of recoil and sight return to index.
I just shot a GSSF match. I generally shoot The Plates stage last. I took a G17.5 with Dawson sights, a Glock Performance trigger and Talon grip tape. I also took a G26.5 set up the same exact way except for pinky extensions on my mags and an Ameriglo front sight paired with the same exact Dawson rear that rides on the G17. I shoot the guns in the same order on each stage and as mentioned I shoot the plate rack stage last. For the first two stages I was kinda not believing what I was feeling in regards to the brand new (to me) G26. It was an easier gun to shoot than the G17. It was more fun to shoot also.
For a tangible measurement, in four runs on the plate rack I was a total of over 4 seconds faster with the G26 than I was with the G17. Don't recall if I had a makeup shot with the G17, but I know I went clean (6 shots for 6 plates) for all 4 runs with the G26. I was shooting Norma 115 factory ball ammo in both guns.
I made a comment to the RO on one stage about how I now understood why I see so many people raving about the G26 on several forums. I always thought it was just fanboy hype, but I no longer believe that. It really is a damn good little blaster.
When it comes to getting back on target, I wonder if just the mass and momentum of the slide might be a significant factor. I'm sure several folks on this forum could weigh in with a more-informed point of view than me.
I tried a Walther PDP a few years ago after an enthusiastic recommendation from a trainer. Whatever multiple virtues that pistol has, the slide felt like a brick on rails as it cycled.
spyderco monkey
11-10-2023, 07:11 AM
As we covered in the G47 thread, the G47/G49 slide is surprisingly heavy, nearly the weight of the G34 slide. G34 is generally considered the smoothest recoiling pistol in Glock's lineup.
I suspect the G49 should end up a bit smoother then the G19 recoil wise. Look forward to hearing reports.
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Glock should market the G49 with 1-2 15+2 (17rd) mags, and market it as "2 guns in 1." 15rd mag its basically a G19, slap in the 15+2 mag and it's basically a G17.
As we covered in the G47 thread, the G47/G49 slide is surprisingly heavy, nearly the weight of the G34 slide. G34 is generally considered the smoothest recoiling pistol in Glock's lineup.
I suspect the G49 should end up a bit smoother then the G19 recoil wise. Look forward to hearing reports.
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Glock should market the G49 with 1-2 15+2 (17rd) mags, and market it as "2 guns in 1." 15rd mag its basically a G19, slap in the 15+2 mag and it's basically a G17.
The 34 does have light recoil but it also has a lot of muzzle dip when the slide returns to battery. The only way I could make one work is with a lighter, non-factory, recoil spring. The lighter springs fixed the dipping problem but made the pistol feel sluggish. I don’t feel much more perceptible recoil from a Glock 45 and none of the muzzle dip. The slide cycles faster but not harder.
spyderco monkey
11-10-2023, 07:23 AM
The 34 does have light recoil but it also has a lot of muzzle dip when the slide returns to battery. The only way I could make one work is with a lighter, non-factory, recoil spring. The lighter springs fixed the dipping problem but made the pistol feel sluggish. I don’t feel much more perceptible recoil from a Glock 45 and none of the muzzle dip. The slide cycles faster but not harder.
It will be interesting to see how the G49 handles, as its the G34 weight slide but a G19 spring weight.
The 34 does have light recoil but it also has a lot of muzzle dip when the slide returns to battery. The only way I could make one work is with a lighter, non-factory, recoil spring. The lighter springs fixed the dipping problem but made the pistol feel sluggish. I don’t feel much more perceptible recoil from a Glock 45 and none of the muzzle dip. The slide cycles faster but not harder.
Are you talking about Gen 5 G34 ? Or Gen 3/4 ?
I ask because due to the slide cut out the Gen 3/4 G34 slide weighs the same as a G17 slide and I’ve never noticed dip with them (or with G35s converted to 9mm.)
I ask because I’ve noticed a similar dip with stick full size (4.7” barrel) p320’s but the same size gun with the “PRO” slide (which has lightening cuts) doesn’t exhibit the dip even though the guns are sprung identically.
ECS686
11-10-2023, 08:40 AM
Even with strictly irons not so sure an additional 1/2” is/was a big enough difference that some believe. Glock 34 slide a small maybe however with this being an MOS I get that’s what most want but again with dots that whole longer sight distance becomes a moot point.
Sometimes I believe if someone’s favorite company polished a turd and put their emblem on it some people would have to buy it!
The Rat
11-10-2023, 09:22 AM
I'm really torn. I've been carrying a G17 cut to G19 length for a decade. I like the concept, although as others have mentioned it's kind of obsolete now as far as sight radius, since I've gone to optics.
Do I want to buy one? Kind of, yeah, but since I still have my cut G17 on my hip, it's a low priority. No rush on something when I have something functionally identical already.
Are you talking about Gen 5 G34 ? Or Gen 3/4 ?
I ask because due to the slide cut out the Gen 3/4 G34 slide weighs the same as a G17 slide and I’ve never noticed dip with them (or with G35s converted to 9mm.)
I ask because I’ve noticed a similar dip with stick full size (4.7” barrel) p320’s but the same size gun with the “PRO” slide (which has lightening cuts) doesn’t exhibit the dip even though the guns are sprung identically.
It's been a long time since I've shot a Gen 3 or 4 34 but it definitely wasn't as bad. The Gen 4 still didn't feel "right" to me. I should have prefaced my comments as most of the ammo I have run through 34s has been match reloads and not factory ammo.
Robinson
11-10-2023, 11:27 AM
Like I think some others have done, I put one of these together from a G47 slide and G19 frame. To me it balances a bit like a G34, which I prefer. I also like the way the G19 grip feels.
JonInWA
11-10-2023, 12:47 PM
Part of the attraction of the G49 may have somewhat to do with states and locales that have magazine capacity restrictions in place. In such states, less receiver real estate is necessary to house a 10 round magazine. Additionally, if you need slightly more grip, it'll be interesting to see if the LTT/Booth Grip Anchor will work with a G49 receiver.
Best, Jon
fatdog
11-11-2023, 05:05 AM
A friend who works at one of the distributors told me these are now shipping and that one of his competitors, Lipsey's, had already shipped some to LGS customers. So this is not a shot show/next year thing, they are becoming available now.
Since I started hooking my index finger on the trigger guard, the shorter 19 grip no longer feels small, and I prefer the feel to the 17/45 grip. Really sold on the LTT grip anchor.
I went down this rabbit hole for a bit. The amount of control was simply amazing.
Then I could never figure out a decent positioning with a pistol light when I had them. Back to regular grip, do some dips, dead lifts, etc. to enhance grip and fitness and then finally started trying to wrap my head around predictive shooting a la Stoeger.
Are you talking about Gen 5 G34 ? Or Gen 3/4 ?
I ask because due to the slide cut out the Gen 3/4 G34 slide weighs the same as a G17 slide and I’ve never noticed dip with them (or with G35s converted to 9mm.)
I ask because I’ve noticed a similar dip with stick full size (4.7” barrel) p320’s but the same size gun with the “PRO” slide (which has lightening cuts) doesn’t exhibit the dip even though the guns are sprung identically.
You sir are blowing my mind with this dip discussion and as a person with two Glock 34 Gen 5’s I had not considered where the cut outs in the slide were in correlation to tracking in the earlier generations but it makes sense.
Low left is often grip pressure in the right hand or pushing the gun.
I also went down a Glock 26 rabbit hole (Gen 3 to then Gen 4). They are very accurate guns.
Center Shot
11-11-2023, 12:58 PM
I heard today that Glock is also releasing soon the G29 and G30 in the Gen5 platform.
I heard today that Glock is also releasing soon the G29 and G30 in the Gen5 platform.
I would give a 29 a whirl.
JonInWA
11-11-2023, 06:03 PM
I'd consider the Gen5 G30.
Best, Jon
Joe Mac
11-11-2023, 09:44 PM
I heard today that Glock is also releasing soon the G29 and G30 in the Gen5 platform.
From whom? I might be interested in a gen 5 G30.
Now I gotta ping my LE rep...
Center Shot
11-11-2023, 10:11 PM
From whom? I might be interested in a gen 5 G30.
Now I gotta ping my LE rep...
There is a discussion on the Glock Talk forum under General Glocking. The Gen5 G29 and G30 coming soon.
There is a discussion on the Glock Talk forum under General Glocking. The Gen5 G29 and G30 coming soon.
Says NOT MOS -- that seems surprising.
Center Shot
11-12-2023, 10:29 AM
Says NOT MOS -- that seems surprising.
Hopefully they are wrong about that. I would love a Gen5 G29 MOS.
Gun Mutt
11-12-2023, 10:32 AM
I've got zero need for one, but I don't think I could resist a non-MOS 30.5, I really don't.
Joe Mac
11-15-2023, 07:51 PM
I've got zero need for one, but I don't think I could resist a non-MOS 30.5, I really don't.
I sure don't *need* one, but I do have a fair stash of .45 ACP while not currently owning a .45...does a man need more justification than that?!
Dorsai
11-17-2023, 03:19 AM
I “made” one years ago thanks to Brownells.
https://i.imgur.io/8Fpf5FJ_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Same here. Personally, I think it will sell simply because some people will like the look and balance more than a different configuration. I can understand the desire for something that gets you back on target in the competition sphere. Small fractions of a second per shot will add up depending on how many rounds are fired. However, I don't believe it matters in a self defense situation for the simple reason that people don't have an instant reaction to the shot, and aside from jerking because the were shot (one kind of reaction), unless it is a CNS hit, the physiological effect takes longer.
I have several variations of the Beretta 92. Personally, I don't like the appearance with 0.2" of barrel projecting from the end of the slide. Aesthetically, the 4.7" is much more attractive to me. Same thing here. If you like it, you like it. If you don't, you don't. That's really the heart of it. I have a G45. Were I to get the G49, then I would have 4 possible configurations, same as a G19 and G47. Just different numbers on the slide. But I put a comp on the G45, so I really don't have a G19 length slide/barrel anymore.
Bucky
11-17-2023, 06:20 AM
If you put a RDS on an MOS gun, why do you care about having a longer sight radius as the blurb says.
What am I not seeing?
Aside from others have mentioned I the way they shoot, you also get more velocity / same ammo or same velocity / lighter ammo. The latter is attractive to the gamers.
M2CattleCo
11-19-2023, 03:28 PM
I initially shot a Gen 4 19, the first year CO became a provisional division in USPSA. I was convinced that the 19 cycled flatter. Over time, I came to understand that while I perceived the slide to shoot flatter with a 19, my match performance was better with a 34.
I’ve seen it over and over again.
There’s people who think the 19 slide is faster, and there’s those who use shot timers.
I'll grab a Blue Label one.
Are these going to come up in Blue Label or is that not going to happen because they are a distributor exclusive?
Kyle Reese
03-03-2024, 04:53 PM
Are these going to come up in Blue Label or is that not going to happen because they are a distributor exclusive?
I’ll reach out the my GLOCK LE rep tomorrow and ask.
I’ll reach out the my GLOCK LE rep tomorrow and ask.
You're a Great American.
TC215
03-03-2024, 08:59 PM
Are these going to come up in Blue Label or is that not going to happen because they are a distributor exclusive?
I’ll reach out the my GLOCK LE rep tomorrow and ask.
Last time I asked, there was no indication that they were going to be offered as blue label guns.
Of course, it’s Glock, and they seem to change their minds a lot when it comes to stuff like that.
Gary1911A1
03-04-2024, 06:36 AM
I am interested in the 49 for Stock Division in GSSF Matches. I don't like the hump on the larger frame 17/34 and the 49 would weigh a little more and have a longer sight radius. I have yet to see one in person at any of the local gun shops around here leading me to believe they are popular.
overton
08-15-2024, 11:13 AM
Any comments on reliability / shootability? Thanks!
Any comments on reliability / shootability? Thanks!
I made my own before they released the 49 by using a 47 top end on a 19 frame. Works great. Have not had any reliability issues. Mine has the Monsoon Tactical Lucky 7 port package.
Robinson
08-15-2024, 07:06 PM
I made my own before they released the 49 by using a 47 top end on a 19 frame. Works great. Have not had any reliability issues. Mine has the Monsoon Tactical Lucky 7 port package.
I did the same thing (sans porting) and it works fine. I think JHC built one too.
Trajan
08-18-2024, 05:54 AM
Any word on a Talo factory ACRO model?
fatdog
08-18-2024, 07:24 AM
Last week was the first time I saw one in an LGS. This shop also happens to be a blue label shop and I inquired. They said it was not on their list of blue label orderable models yet.
Any word on a Talo factory ACRO model?
There is a whole thread on them. They have been popping up in my LGS for a while now.
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?59812-Talo-Glock-49-with-ACRO-P2s-are-coming
Trajan
08-18-2024, 02:35 PM
There is a whole thread on them. They have been popping up in my LGS for a while now.
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?59812-Talo-Glock-49-with-ACRO-P2s-are-coming
Weird. My lipsey dealer friend can't find anything on them. Just the 49MOS.
DMF13
08-18-2024, 06:11 PM
Lots of people asked for it but will they buy it?
If someone can make it so the info appears without having to click it please do so. I tried looking it up and failed.
https://taloinc.com/news/talo-introduces-the-glock-g49-mos-to-us-market
https://taloinc.com/product/glock-49mos-introductionWhen I was still carrying an iron sighted dinosaur pistol, this is what I wanted. Now, that I use a PMO, I'm good with the G19. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see any advantage to this, with a dot on the gun.
When I was still carrying an iron sighted dinosaur pistol, this is what I wanted. Now, that I use a PMO, I'm good with the G19. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see any advantage to this, with a dot on the gun.
This is also the gun I always wanted, before I just went to carrying a 43X in the summer and 34 in flannels. I don’t think the market is really there for it. It’s what everyone wanted for 20 years now it’s too late.
Trajan
08-19-2024, 04:34 AM
This is also the gun I always wanted, before I just went to carrying a 43X in the summer and 34 in flannels. I don’t think the market is really there for it. It’s what everyone wanted for 20 years now it’s too late.
A chopped 17 still shoots a little better than a 19. Not sure if that translates to the 49 with it's 19 rsa though.
Plus a 17 carries appendix much better than a 19, but not as cumbersome as a 34. It's really a goldilocks pistol.
A chopped 17 still shoots a little better than a 19. Not sure if that translates to the 49 with it's 19 rsa though.
Plus a 17 carries appendix much better than a 19, but not as cumbersome as a 34. It's really a goldilocks pistol.
I agree a 17 shoots marginally better, but you can always carry the shorter gun in the longer holster.
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