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Rack
07-21-2023, 08:23 PM
Hello. Am looking for best options for some hosts. Have never had a suppressor, so forgive my ignorance here and am open to any advice. I don’t know what brands of suppressors are best. In my novice thinking, it seems a suppressor that can be disassembled is easier to keep clean? A friend once told me that if he has a baffle strike on his suppressor, he can order a replacement for that single baffle for his unit. I know some of them don’t have individual baffles, though. (He’s the one that told me that some models can’t be opened by the end user, I don’t know.)

I would like a suppressor (and brand) for the following platforms:

1. AR-15 and bolt action .223s. Barrel lengths can range from 16” - 20”. Would also use this for predator hunting.

2. .308 - this would be on a bolt action. Maybe on an FAL and M1A, if that’s possible. 20” - 26” barrel lengths.

3. .45 - this would be on a G21 or some such. I’m assuming a suppressor that would work on a .45-70 would be too large for a pistol, also?

4. .22 LR. Bolt action rifle, 10/22 semi and .22 pistols (Ruger MkII/IV, Beretta). Can the rifle suppressor work on the pistol?

5. 9mm for pistol and carbine

6. Other calibers, such as .243, .300 Win Mag, etc. Can the .308 suppressor be used on these?

How inefficient is it to use a can for something like a .308, on a .223 and .243? What about a .45 ACP can on a 9mm?

Also don’t know the benefits/drawbacks to materials choices - steel, aluminum, titanium tubes and baffles.

I know these are a lot of novice questions. After re-reading this, maybe too much for one post!

Thanks for any help!

SteveL
07-25-2023, 05:58 PM
Hello. Am looking for best options for some hosts. Have never had a suppressor, so forgive my ignorance here and am open to any advice. I don’t know what brands of suppressors are best. In my novice thinking, it seems a suppressor that can be disassembled is easier to keep clean? A friend once told me that if he has a baffle strike on his suppressor, he can order a replacement for that single baffle for his unit. I know some of them don’t have individual baffles, though. (He’s the one that told me that some models can’t be opened by the end user, I don’t know.)

I would like a suppressor (and brand) for the following platforms:

You ask some good questions, and if I read your post right you're looking for recommendations for each of these hosts rather than one do-all can.


1. AR-15 and bolt action .223s. Barrel lengths can range from 16” - 20”. Would also use this for predator hunting.

2. .308 - this would be on a bolt action. Maybe on an FAL and M1A, if that’s possible. 20” - 26” barrel lengths.

There are a lot of different ways you can go here. You can go with a dedicated 5.56 can for your AR and .223's, or you can go with a .30 cal can that can be used across many different calibers. Many modern .30 cal cans will cover you from 5.56/.223 all the way up to .300 Win Mag. There are a lot of good options for both scenarios. I see a lot of people go with .30 cal cans and use them on a wide range of firearms and calibers, as this is the least expensive and easiest option. Cans like the Surefire SOCOM, Dead Air Sandman S, and SilencerCo Omega 300 are very popular. The HuxWrx cans also seem to be gaining a lot of popularity and are reported to have less blowback, but I have no hands-on experience with it. Keep in mind that the mounting method will be something you have to consider as well. Some cans are modular and allow you to switch back and forth between QD and direct thread, but not all. If you decide to go with something that's dedicated direct thread, like the Sandman S, you'll need to plan on installing an appropriate muzzle device on each firearm you want to use the can on.


3. .45 - this would be on a G21 or some such. I’m assuming a suppressor that would work on a .45-70 would be too large for a pistol, also?

The SilencerCo Hybrid 46M can go up to .45-70, and can be used on pistols, although it might be a bit heavier than a dedicated 9MM or .45 pistol silencer.


4. .22 LR. Bolt action rifle, 10/22 semi and .22 pistols (Ruger MkII/IV, Beretta). Can the rifle suppressor work on the pistol?

Most people will recommend a dedicated .22 can, and yes you can use it on rifles and pistols. Pay attention to the ratings, as some cans are only rated for .22 LR whereas others can handle .22 mag or .17 HMR.


5. 9mm for pistol and carbine

I don't have much experience with pistol cans. The only one I have is a Rugged Obsidian 9 that I use on a CZ Scorpion SBR, and I like it quite a bit. It's lightweight, it can be disassembled for cleaning, and it can be run in a standard or K (short) configuration.


6. Other calibers, such as .243, .300 Win Mag, etc. Can the .308 suppressor be used on these?

Yes.


How inefficient is it to use a can for something like a .308, on a .223 and .243? What about a .45 ACP can on a 9mm?

You'll lose a small bit of performance, but it's not much. Many people consider the ability to run one can across many calibers to be well worth the small bit of performance you lose.


Also don’t know the benefits/drawbacks to materials choices - steel, aluminum, titanium tubes and baffles.

Strength, weight, resistance to erosion. A lot of silencers are made from materials like inconel and stellite. A lot of them will have some combination of inconel and steel or stellite and steel. The blast baffle takes the most abuse in any silencer and often this one in particular is made of a more durable material, with steel making up the rest. Titanium is generally the lightest, but also erodes faster, so it may not be the best choice for a gun that sees a high round count/mag dumps. It's usually a good choice for bolt guns IMO.


I know these are a lot of novice questions. After re-reading this, maybe too much for one post!

Thanks for any help!

SteveL
07-27-2023, 11:49 PM
Something I posted above was incorrect and I missed my window to make a correction. I apologize for any confusion. Correction below.


There are a lot of different ways you can go here. You can go with a dedicated 5.56 can for your AR and .223's, or you can go with a .30 cal can that can be used across many different calibers. Many modern .30 cal cans will cover you from 5.56/.223 all the way up to .300 Win Mag. There are a lot of good options for both scenarios. I see a lot of people go with .30 cal cans and use them on a wide range of firearms and calibers, as this is the least expensive and easiest option. Cans like the Surefire SOCOM, Dead Air Sandman S, and SilencerCo Omega 300 are very popular. The HuxWrx cans also seem to be gaining a lot of popularity and are reported to have less blowback, but I have no hands-on experience with it. Keep in mind that the mounting method will be something you have to consider as well. Some cans are modular and allow you to switch back and forth between QD and direct thread, but not all. If you decide to go with something that's dedicated QD, like the Sandman S, you'll need to plan on installing an appropriate muzzle device on each firearm you want to use the can on.

Screwball
07-28-2023, 05:22 AM
I bought 3 suppressors on my first run… Dead Air Odessa 9, Griffin Bushwhacker 46 and Rugged Oculus 22.

For .22, get something that is user serviceable. I like the Oculus mainly because I can run it in long or short… even though it is in long 99% of the time.

My choice for 9mm was a little bit gun specific. I have a Stern upper that I wanted a suppressor to fit under the handguard. Odessa does that and I can adjust the length. With it being thin, I also can run on pistols with standard height sights. Getting the fixed barrel adapter was a pain to find in stock.

My general purpose suppressor is the Bushwhacker. It is a .46 can, but I run it on my truck AR most of the time. I leave the .36 end cap on it since I got the 3-lug adapter and my SBRed PTR 9CT. Other benefit of an oversized can is the reduction of back pressure. But that can does all of my 5.56mm rifles, some 9mm, .308 and… whenever I SBR/thread my .45 AR… that. I have the 3-lug, Taper mount and an A2 adapter. My truck gun is an 11.5” AR running the Adams Arms piston kit… Taper Mount would trap the piston from removal. [emoji107]

I’ve been looking at picking up 2 more suppressors… but probably a year or so out before doing it. First one, a dedicated 5.56mm that goes on the A2 (I prefer not running the A2 adapter on the Bushwhacker). None of my other than 5.56mm guns use an A2, so figured dedicated 5.56mm would be the best choice… but may do the .30 for future flexibility. Second… a 12 Gauge shotgun suppressor. Mainly for fun, but I would like to see how it would be on my 14” 870 (SBS). Just would have to send the barrel to be threaded… but would while I’m waiting for the stamp.

crosseyedshooter
07-28-2023, 10:04 PM
I was trying to make a similar decision a couple years ago, minus the .45. I ended up going with Dead Air Sandman S, Sandman K and Wolfman. That basically has me covered for everything except .45 and .22LR. If I were to do it over, I’d replace the Sandman K with a .22 LR can like the Mask for my first go-around. The K is too much of a compromise to be a multi-purpose can. The Sandman S is a great universal can with only drawbacks being weight and locked into KeyMo muzzle devices. I’d have no problem recommending Sandman S and Wolfman as first cans except for the .45 cal.

I shoot left-handed and use piston-driven ARs to minimize the gas blowback. I can notice the increased back pressure in the Sandman S over the K. If noxious gases are a concern, then the flow-through cans recently introduced are really attractive. The Huxwrx Flow 762 Ti (https://huxwrx.com/content/white-paper/FLOW-762-Ti-White-Paper.pdf) seems to be an amazing can from all the reviews and weighs only 12 ounces. It could very much be the best rifle can for everything from .223 ARs to .300WM bolt guns. One drawback to Huxwrx is the cost and availability of muzzle devices.

David S.
07-28-2023, 11:35 PM
Very limited suppressor experience here.

I have two OSS suppressors (now HUXWRX) with the flow through design.

Compactness isn’t a high priority for me, so I picked up one of their titanium (a bit lighter) 30 cal cans. I run it on my AR15 and 6.5 CM, and it works as advertised. No tuning at all required on the Sionics AR and I don’t get any blowback grime when shooting from the left shoulder.

I also have an OSS .22 can. My S&W AR15-22 runs well with it.

Having the quietest can isn’t a priority for me either. I don’t care how it compares to other cans.

rainman
07-29-2023, 07:55 AM
I was trying to make a similar decision a couple years ago, minus the .45. I ended up going with Dead Air Sandman S, Sandman K and Wolfman. That basically has me covered for everything except .45 and .22LR. If I were to do it over, I’d replace the Sandman K with a .22 LR can like the Mask for my first go-around. The K is too much of a compromise to be a multi-purpose can. The Sandman S is a great universal can with only drawbacks being weight and locked into KeyMo muzzle devices. I’d have no problem recommending Sandman S and Wolfman as first cans except for the .45 cal.

I shoot left-handed and use piston-driven ARs to minimize the gas blowback. I can notice the increased back pressure in the Sandman S over the K. If noxious gases are a concern, then the flow-through cans recently introduced are really attractive. The Huxwrx Flow 762 Ti (https://huxwrx.com/content/white-paper/FLOW-762-Ti-White-Paper.pdf) seems to be an amazing can from all the reviews and weighs only 12 ounces. It could very much be the best rifle can for everything from .223 ARs to .300WM bolt guns. One drawback to Huxwrx is the cost and availability of muzzle devices.


Very limited suppressor experience here.

I have two OSS suppressors (now HUXWRX) with the flow through design.

Compactness isn’t a high priority for me, so I picked up one of their titanium (a bit lighter) 30 cal cans. I run it on my AR15 and 6.5 CM, and it works as advertised. No tuning at all required on the Sionics AR and I don’t get any blowback grime when shooting from the left shoulder.

I also have an OSS .22 can. My S&W AR15-22 runs well with it.

Having the quietest can isn’t a priority for me either. I don’t care how it compares to other cans.


Limited experience here, but maybe relevant as I'm cross-dominant (left-eye/right-hand), shooting rifle and shotgun lefty, and pistol righty.

First can was a Silencerco Omega. Nice, reasonable size/weight, very quiet...and a LOT of back-pressure and gas-to-face (GTF)!

Went Dead Air Sandman-S for my second can. Less gas-to-face than the Omega, kind of a good universal (5.56-to-.30 cal) can. The Keymo mounting system works well but it's a little long and heavy. There are excellent Keymo compatible muzzled devices, with my preference being those by Forward Controls Design.

Based on a number of reviews including Pew Science https://pewscience.com/ (I consider them to be a good source of info, but nothing is be-all/end-all), I went with a Huxwrx Flow 5.56 for my 3rd can. This is an excellent can for a gas-gun, zero GTF so far, and ejection pattern/cycling seems unchaged. I'm annoyed by the lack of muzzle devices (noted above) and don't particularly care for what Huxwrx calls a 'flash suppressor', but the design of the mounting system is substantially shorter than the Dead Air Keymo system...I really notice the difference in handling between the Sandman/Keymo setup and the Flow.

I'm very tempted to try the Huxwrx 7.62 version of the Flow, which was not available at the time my 5.56 Flow was purchased.

For dedicated .22lr I have a Dead Air Mask, which I like very much, albeit I have very little time behind it.

Everyone's priorities are slightly different. I'm more worried about 'at-the-ear noise' and 'gas-to-face' (or lack thereof) than pure downrange noise suppression.

Let us know what direction you go with this.



-Rainman

Clusterfrack
07-29-2023, 09:17 AM
Rack, my experience has led me to be very conservative in choosing suppressor manufacturers. I've seen and experienced how 'the new hotness' often comes with hidden issues, and how new suppressor companies disappear or fail to support their products. Mounting systems are especially tricky. If I could go back in time, I would only own Surefire and Thunder Beast (TBAC) suppressors.

About baffle strikes and repairing cans: don't have a baffle strike! Testing all ammo, and making sure the mounting system is solid should make a baffle strike extremely unlikely.

Rack
07-29-2023, 11:07 PM
Thanks for all the great info in this thread. I’m still wading through the options that have been presented.

As for a baffle strike, I don’t remember how he said he had one, it’s been a while. I didn’t know if that was common or not.

ccmdfd
07-30-2023, 08:37 AM
Rack, my experience has led me to be very conservative in choosing suppressor manufacturers. I've seen and experienced how 'the new hotness' often comes with hidden issues, and how new suppressor companies disappear or fail to support their products. Mounting systems are especially tricky. If I could go back in time, I would only own Surefire and Thunder Beast (TBAC) suppressors.



My first two cans were both 9 mm pistol cans. Bought the first one around 2005, second one around 2010. They were both made by well respected companies with awesome reviews on the internet back in that time frame.

Within a year of my purchases, both particular models were discontinued and in one case one of the companies went belly up and was purchased by another company.

There wasn't any warning given. There wasn't any you've got X number of months to get extra parts and supplies and accessories. They just completely shut down production. I don't know if it was Panic buying or if they just don't keep a lot of extra stuff hanging around but the parts and accessories and support disappeared absolutely instantaneously. I tried calling the companies directly to see if they had any suggestions and was treated quite rudely by both.

Maybe it's different these days, don't know.

Those two suppressors are basically stuck in the exact configuration they are in now.

I too am a Surefire and TBAC fan.

HeavyDuty
07-30-2023, 11:02 AM
My first two cans were both 9 mm pistol cans. Bought the first one around 2005, second one around 2010. They were both made by well respected companies with awesome reviews on the internet back in that time frame.

Within a year of my purchases, both particular models were discontinued and in one case one of the companies went belly up and was purchased by another company.

There wasn't any warning given. There wasn't any you've got X number of months to get extra parts and supplies and accessories. They just completely shut down production. I don't know if it was Panic buying or if they just don't keep a lot of extra stuff hanging around but the parts and accessories and support disappeared absolutely instantaneously. I tried calling the companies directly to see if they had any suggestions and was treated quite rudely by both.

Maybe it's different these days, don't know.

Those two suppressors are basically stuck in the exact configuration they are in now.

I too am a Surefire and TBAC fan.

This was the reason I went with Dead Air and YHM - both seem to be solid companies with staying power.

t1tan
07-30-2023, 01:44 PM
This was the reason I went with Dead Air and YHM - both seem to be solid companies with staying power.

YHM yes, Dead Air, no.

They've had a ton of problems lately, people waiting months for RMAs and being entirely ghosted by their CS. Their Sierra 5 suppressors with disintegrating baffles, welds blowing out on other models and DA just says "we got you" and nothing happens. One of their reps in the NFA group on reddit stopped answering peoples pleas for help and just deleted their reddit account all together.

They don't make anything, they just design things and contract out to shops that can't get anything right, most notably KGM, who cannot seem to put out a product without issues.

I wouldn't suggest Dead Air to anybody.

Wake27
07-30-2023, 06:48 PM
YHM yes, Dead Air, no.

They've had a ton of problems lately, people waiting months for RMAs and being entirely ghosted by their CS. Their Sierra 5 suppressors with disintegrating baffles, welds blowing out on other models and DA just says "we got you" and nothing happens. One of their reps in the NFA group on reddit stopped answering peoples pleas for help and just deleted their reddit account all together.

They don't make anything, they just design things and contract out to shops that can't get anything right, most notably KGM, who cannot seem to put out a product without issues.

I wouldn't suggest Dead Air to anybody.

Yeah I’ve also seen more than a few complaints about Dead Air recently. Definitely reaffirms my plans to only go with very well established companies when it comes to cans. People have complained about SureFire’s CS before but I’ve used it a few times for lights and had good results.


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OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
07-30-2023, 07:29 PM
Started w/ can's in 2004 when not as many choices, went direct thread w/ Gemtech & SWR but sold most after a short period w/ only a 5.56 GemTech Trek-T & .22 SWR left but starting over I'd go TABC or SF today.

omega9
07-30-2023, 09:41 PM
My first two cans were both 9 mm pistol cans. Bought the first one around 2005, second one around 2010. They were both made by well respected companies with awesome reviews on the internet back in that time frame.

Within a year of my purchases, both particular models were discontinued and in one case one of the companies went belly up and was purchased by another company.

There wasn't any warning given. There wasn't any you've got X number of months to get extra parts and supplies and accessories. They just completely shut down production. I don't know if it was Panic buying or if they just don't keep a lot of extra stuff hanging around but the parts and accessories and support disappeared absolutely instantaneously. I tried calling the companies directly to see if they had any suggestions and was treated quite rudely by both.

Maybe it's different these days, don't know.

Those two suppressors are basically stuck in the exact configuration they are in now.

I too am a Surefire and TBAC fan.

I’ve never used their services but you should look up Ecco Machine for after market support. They make their own suppressors but they’ll also re-core or change mounts on other manufacturers suppressors. They’ll take a sure fire trainer cut the mount off and adapt it for hub use. I’ve also read about some folks send in suppressors with permanently attached mounts (sandman and razor) and Ecco with remove the mount and thread it so it can be used with any hub comparable mount.

https://www.eccomachine.net/ecco-machine-services/4089-2/

BWT
08-01-2023, 09:00 AM
YHM yes, Dead Air, no.

They've had a ton of problems lately, people waiting months for RMAs and being entirely ghosted by their CS. Their Sierra 5 suppressors with disintegrating baffles, welds blowing out on other models and DA just says "we got you" and nothing happens. One of their reps in the NFA group on reddit stopped answering peoples pleas for help and just deleted their reddit account all together.

They don't make anything, they just design things and contract out to shops that can't get anything right, most notably KGM, who cannot seem to put out a product without issues.

I wouldn't suggest Dead Air to anybody.

The silencer industry is full of drama and I have no idea why but it’s always been this way.

Sierra 5’s are having issues - DA hasn’t released a recall. Potentially can’t (my speculation) and used manufacturing partners. They’re standing up QA in Utah. I think their manufacturing partners have caused issues and they changed one once for that reason. I think they’re working on in-housing stuff.

Dead Air Dom left Reddit because it’s Reddit and guys are just posting pictures of Sierra 5’s asking if they’re good to go now.

Call me a dead air fan boy, but I think they make awesome cans. They took a different route on giving manufacturing to other partners to scale up. It seems their partners have been having issues with weld quality. I wouldn’t recommend a KGM silencer after this as they’re making lots of Dead Air cans.

It is what it is. Kevin sold AAC to Remington to scale after getting so much heat for constantly being back ordered (and money). Then they fired him (because no one will finance silencer companies often now). Dead air tried to bypass scaling by using partners and it has its own issues.

TLDR - Sierra 5 weld quality is spotty recently. They for some reason haven’t issued a recall but they are warranting them.

CLaw
08-01-2023, 05:20 PM
Ouch! I’m seeing more and more complaints about Dead Air. I wish I had seen this before I ordered! I just got two Dead Air cans out of jail, and I haven’t even tried them yet. Ughhh….



YHM yes, Dead Air, no.
They've had a ton of problems lately, people waiting months for RMAs and being entirely ghosted by their CS. Their Sierra 5 suppressors with disintegrating baffles, welds blowing out on other models and DA just says "we got you" and nothing happens. One of their reps in the NFA group on reddit stopped answering peoples pleas for help and just deleted their reddit account all together.

They don't make anything, they just design things and contract out to shops that can't get anything right, most notably KGM, who cannot seem to put out a product without issues.

I wouldn't suggest Dead Air to anybody.

BWT
08-01-2023, 07:42 PM
Ouch! I’m seeing more and more complaints about Dead Air. I wish I had seen this before I ordered! I just got two Dead Air cans out of jail, and I haven’t even tried them yet. Ughhh….

Well let us know. I have one waiting transfer with about 500-ish rounds through it no worries. It’s the Dead Air Mask.

I was thinking about a Wolf Man SD as well but I think I’m good for a bit.

Magsz
08-02-2023, 05:07 AM
Dead Air is Hypebeast crud.

Their Nomad sounds good but that's about it.

The Sandman series is overbuilt and not really all that great sounding on any host. Subjectively, the tone that those cans put out is absolutely horrid.

Keymo is loved by many for whatever reason. I had four keymo mounts that would never stay tight on any of their muzzle devices. My Sandman K is nigh worthless.

My wolfman was three times the cost of my Rex Silentium MG7's and the MG7's sound better on a variety of hosts.

If I could do it all again I would go with the following:

Surefire RC2 for 5.56 guns.
Surefire RC2 7.62

This covers all of your 5.56 needs as well as .30 cal desires.

It's not the "best" of either world but the cans are stupid durable and the mount is a genuinely good one.

The budget option would be the following:

YHM T3
YHM R2

Again, you've got your durable 5.56 can with excellent sound performance as well as a .30 cal suppressor that will perform well.

IF you needed a 9mm can for a sub gun and had no plans to stick it on a pistol, I would throw in a .358 bore rex Silentium MG7. I am beyond pleased with their offerings.

IF you needed a 9mm can for pistol use that could double as a rifle can, I would get a Griffin Bushwacker 36.

Ultimately, if you really get into cans, you're going to spend money on alot of weird stuff lol.

TGS
08-02-2023, 08:54 AM
Unless you're looking for organizational duty use or flow-through designs, I can't find a reason to buy anything other than the YHM cans.

With that said, I feel like we might be at an inflection point where flow-through designs are about to become more popular and cheaper...maybe YHM will produce one for $400...and so I've been holding off on buying more cans.

WobblyPossum
08-02-2023, 09:07 AM
Unless you're looking for organizational duty use or flow-through designs, I can't find a reason to buy anything other than the YHM cans.

With that said, I feel like we might be at an inflection point where flow-through designs are about to become more popular and cheaper...maybe YHM will produce one for $400...and so I've been holding off on buying more cans.

The latest generation of the Turbo claims to have reduced back pressure. I don’t believe it’s flow-through though.

ETA: I just checked the site and the exact wording they’re using in advertising is “reduced blowback” due to redesigned baffle geometry. I’m also curious to see if they do come out with a flow-through suppressor but I don’t see it happening anytime soon because the Turbo T3, Turbo K-RB and Fat Cat were only revealed at SHOT this year.

TGS
08-02-2023, 10:13 AM
The latest generation of the Turbo claims to have reduced back pressure. I don’t believe it’s flow-through though.

ETA: I just checked the site and the exact wording they’re using in advertising is “reduced blowback” due to redesigned baffle geometry. I’m also curious to see if they do come out with a flow-through suppressor but I don’t see it happening anytime soon because the Turbo T3, Turbo K-RB and Fat Cat were only revealed at SHOT this year.

When I think of suppressors, "soon" to me means 5 years. The NFA process makes it a long game, at least for me.

IDK. I still might pick up a T3, just because big long suppressors are cool.

vcdgrips
08-02-2023, 11:55 AM
Outside my lane.

In the mid 2000's, I went to Tac Con in Tulsa. There, Surefire was demoing their cans.

They were super transparent in that:

1. We are not the cheapest
2. We are not the quietest
3. Our mount will be proprietary
4. Our device will have little to no effect re point of impact.
5. Weapons with our cans will function as designed when shooting quality, in spec ammo

Folks then spent the next few hours shooting an AR in 556 and a bolt gun in 762 at 50 and 100. Both guns exhibited no meaningful differences between groups regardless of the weapon having the can on the gun.
Folks were shooting very repeatable and predictable groups. IIRC the AR had an Aimpoint, the 762 had some variable powered high end scope, maybe S&B?

IIRC, their stated noise reduction goal was it had to quiet the gun enough to be "comfortably" shot in a hall of an apartment while the "team" was in a stack etc.

I left impressed and convinced that they were the ones to use in the long gun context.


YMMV greatly and I would happily defer to those in the know.

Default.mp3
08-02-2023, 12:25 PM
4. Our device will have little to no effect re point of impact.That's not really possible on many different platforms, it's simple physics that adding a big ass weight at the end of the barrel is going to shift the POA/POI. Rather, SureFire excels at having extremely consistent POA/POI shift.

Waiting to see when the RC3 comes out. I believe the rumors are that it'll be a flowthrough design, some folks have uncovered some patent submissions IIRC. That being said, SureFire being SureFire, if they announce the RC3 at SHOT 2024 or whatever, I'd expect like a 2027 release.

Chomps
10-15-2023, 06:33 AM
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?58332-Blazer-Brass-Shrapnel-Jacket-separation&p=1512457&viewfull=1#post1512457
Thanks for all the great info in this thread. I’m still wading through the options that have been presented.

As for a baffle strike, I don’t remember how he said he had one, it’s been a while. I didn’t know if that was common or not.

Stumbled onto this thread and subscribed for future reference,.. That said, I have ZERO knowledge or experience with suppressors, but my thread on BLAZER BRASS FMJ SPALL, might well be relevant. Especially in light of the above quoted comment.

With regards to potential for baffle strikes,.. this could be very important to know,…

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?58332-Blazer-Brass-Shrapnel-Jacket-separation&p=1512457&viewfull=1#post1512457

Hope this is helpful.

Rack
10-17-2023, 07:27 PM
Thanks much.