Looks like TK Custom is now in the 856 spring & firing pin market

[jandbj]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125946871339?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=JW0lCjNIRk6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=u6CIUqDiR6S&var=426912655741&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I had light strikes using the Galloway hammer springs in mine. And went back to the factory springs, which resolved the issue.

Anyone tried these?

[JCN]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125946871339?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=JW0lCjNIRk6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=u6CIUqDiR6S&var=426912655741&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I had light strikes using the Galloway hammer springs in mine. And went back to the factory springs, which resolved the issue.

Anyone tried these?

Oh! Thanks for that!

I ordered a few and will try them out on an M380 and a pair of 856s!

[D-der]

I had light strikes with both Galloway and Wolfe kit's, maybe the firing pin will be the answer.
I'm curious how the kit works out.

[JCN]

I had light strikes with both Galloway and Wolfe kit's, maybe the firing pin will be the answer.
I'm curious how the kit works out.

Same here. For science I might first take a Galloway 856 that had been light striking with harder primers…

And put just the TK firing pin in and see what I can get.

I can do a write up with trigger weights with the spring kits if people are interested.

Otherwise it might just sit in a box here until a rainy day or winter boredom.

[awp_101]

Same here. For science I might first take a Galloway 856 that had been light striking with harder primers…

And put just the TK firing pin in and see what I can get.

I can do a write up with trigger weights with the spring kits if people are interested.

Otherwise it might just sit in a box here until a rainy day or winter boredom.

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[JCN]

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These are what I have to work with:

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380UL
856UL
856 (3”)

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[D-der]

My Galloway kit lit everything off for the first 100-150 or so rd's, (+ dry fire) then went down hill fast.
Galloway said it was my cheap ammo...yeah right, the Wolfe kit didn't make it that far.

[lee n. field]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125946871339?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=JW0lCjNIRk6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=u6CIUqDiR6S&var=426912655741&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I had light strikes using the Galloway hammer springs in mine. And went back to the factory springs, which resolved the issue.

Anyone tried these?

Interesting. Firing pin is one of those things Taurus won't sell you. And, I note, no firing pin spring.

Not listed yet on TK Custom's website.

[jetfire]

We're in the process of reaching out to TK Custom to get some samples for us to validate as well. I've had some light strikes with lower spring weights in my TORO, so the ability to go lighter and keep the ignition good appeals to me and also works within my mission of having a robust aftermarket.

[Wayne Dobbs]

We're in the process of reaching out to TK Custom to get some samples for us to validate as well. I've had some light strikes with lower spring weights in my TORO, so the ability to go lighter and keep the ignition good appeals to me and also works within my mission of having a robust aftermarket.

I'm surprised Apex Tactical hasn't jumped in with a kit yet. I've found their S&W J frame kits (mainspring, new/longer firing pin and firing pin spring) to work really well in a pair of M&P 340s.

[jetfire]

I'm surprised Apex Tactical hasn't jumped in with a kit yet. I've found their S&W J frame kits (mainspring, new/longer firing pin and firing pin spring) to work really well in a pair of M&P 340s.

I had a brief conversation with them at NRA about that actually!

[jtcarm]

Looks like the bull is gaining legitimacy.

I might have to take a look.

[JCN]

We're in the process of reaching out to TK Custom to get some samples for us to validate as well. I've had some light strikes with lower spring weights in my TORO, so the ability to go lighter and keep the ignition good appeals to me and also works within my mission of having a robust aftermarket.

7-8 shot 9mm optic Revo for steel challenge under $750?

[sharps54]

7-8 shot 9mm optic Revo for steel challenge under $750?

With a fluted cylinder and without porting please.

[jetfire]

7-8 shot 9mm optic Revo for steel challenge under $750?

Well according to TK custom they have a spring kit and firing pin that works with the medium frame guns, and Allchin is developing a mount for the medium frames SO

[sharps54]

Well according to TK custom they have a spring kit and firing pin that works with the medium frame guns, and Allchin is developing a mount for the medium frames SO

Very cool, I’m picking up my Model 82 this Thursday but would definitely consider a 66 or 692 once Allchin releases their mount.

[jandbj]

JCN & jetfire are precisely the two mad scientists I hoped to draw in to this experiment.

Thank you both!

Keep us posted gentlemen.

[jtcarm]

Does a bull and red dot make for a Red Bull[emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]

[mikey357]

Does a bull and red dot make for a Red Bull[emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]

We have a "Like" Button, but where's the "GROAN" Button? Asking for a "Friend", you understand? :)

[jetfire]

Does a bull and red dot make for a Red Bull[emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]

Congratulations that is my first "son of a....." of the day

[PNWTO]

Does a bull and red dot make for a Red Bull[emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]


jetfire, sounds like we a Max Verstappen collab.

[JCN]

JCN & jetfire are precisely the two mad scientists I hoped to draw in to this experiment.

Thank you both!

Keep us posted gentlemen.

My kits were delivered yesterday.

[BK14]

My kits were delivered yesterday.

Following closely. Just installed the Galloway in my new 856 UL. 12 rounds of Winchester, no issues. 4 rounds of gold dot, no issue. Then light strike on gold dot #5. Springs are getting yanked immediately.

Is there any issue running the factory hammer spring, and Galloway trigger spring? The factory trigger pull is heavier than my 12 pound Lyman can read, but with the Galloway trigger spring and factory hammer spring, it dropped closer to 10 pounds, which is better at least.

[JCN]

Following closely. Just installed the Galloway in my new 856 UL. 12 rounds of Winchester, no issues. 4 rounds of gold dot, no issue. Then light strike on gold dot #5. Springs are getting yanked immediately.

Is there any issue running the factory hammer spring, and Galloway trigger spring? The factory trigger pull is heavier than my 12 pound Lyman can read, but with the Galloway trigger spring and factory hammer spring, it dropped closer to 10 pounds, which is better at least.

I get the sense that the upgraded firing pin is going to be the key a la Apex J frame kits.

I should be able to throw in some parts tonight.

[D-der]

Following closely. Just installed the Galloway in my new 856 UL. 12 rounds of Winchester, no issues. 4 rounds of gold dot, no issue. Then light strike on gold dot #5. Springs are getting yanked immediately.

Is there any issue running the factory hammer spring, and Galloway trigger spring? The factory trigger pull is heavier than my 12 pound Lyman can read, but with the Galloway trigger spring and factory hammer spring, it dropped closer to 10 pounds, which is better at least.
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I'm running the OEM hammer spring and Galloway trigger spring, a few hundred rd's and a ton of dry fire, the trigger's smooth and a little over 10lb's was 12+ as well.
I'd think the firing pin would do the trick, look like JCN will tell!

[JCN]

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I'm running the OEM hammer spring and Galloway trigger spring, a few hundred rd's and a ton of dry fire, the trigger's smooth and a little over 10lb's was 12+ as well.
I'd think the firing pin would do the trick, look like JCN will tell!

Looks like work is light enough I can get out and tinker a little.

[jetfire]

My two spring and firing pin kits arrived today. I'll try and get them installed in one of my many 856s first to see how they do.

To the commenter above asking about running the factory mainspring and the galloway TRS, that should be fine. You'll need to watch out for short stroking the reset if you're shooting really fast.

[JCN]

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For reference, Galloway springs in an 856UL.
It’s NOT reliable for harder primers.

10+ pounds but better than the 13-16+ factory stock.

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Insides should be fairly familiar to most revolver enthusiasts.

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The kits come with Wolff springs.

The firing pin is what I’m hoping makes the difference.

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The pointy part of the pin is about the same length but the head of the new pin is longer.

[JCN]

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So I used the lighter trigger return spring BUT….

This is super important and I had forgotten from my previous Galloway installs… you have to TRIM the return spring by 2 coils so it has enough travel to clear, otherwise the trigger won’t complete the stroke.

[jeep45238]

This is super important and I had forgotten from my previous Galloway installs… you have to TRIM the return spring by 2 coils so it has enough travel to clear, otherwise the trigger won’t complete the stroke.

Wait....are you talking the 856 with the Galloway spring kit? I don't recall reading that anywhere or seeing it in their install videos, and haven't had that issue with my pair.

What's the details on that qualifier?

[JCN]

Wait....are you talking the 856 with the Galloway spring kit? I don't recall reading that anywhere or seeing it in their install videos, and haven't had that issue with my pair.

What's the details on that qualifier?

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It may depend on the build date on your gun and small internal part differences.

I remember seeing it in a YouTube video that an 85 spring might need trimming to fit an 856.

And then I remember having to do it for my guns in the past.

I just used tin snips. Added benefit of even lighter trigger pull…

[JCN]

Welp, my previous install on the M380 went fine so I thought it would be cake to install on an 856 UL…

Nope!

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Turns out the TK pin is just a whiff too thick to fit through the firing pin channel!

When I try and fit it through the breech face it doesn’t pass, while the factory FP does.

[JCN]

I like Taurus guns, but I think of them as disposable.

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I would rather enlarge the firing pin channel than weaken the firing pin.

So what if the gun only makes it 20,000 rounds rather than 50,000.

I would rather have breech face erosion than a firing pin break.

With as little as I shoot the Revo and with the wimpy ammo I use in these guns anyway, I’m not concerned about grinding the channel.

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This one I shortened the trigger return spring a little too much so I’ll probably stretch it so there’s no flop. We’ll see if there’s a propensity to short stroke it.

[TicTacticalTimmy]

Going by those triggerpull weights this kit is really impressive... IF it proves reliable.

[jetfire]

Welp, my previous install on the M380 went fine so I thought it would be cake to install on an 856 UL…

Nope!

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Turns out the TK pin is just a whiff too thick to fit through the firing pin channel!

When I try and fit it through the breech face it doesn’t pass, while the factory FP does.

This is likely because the 856 and 380UL use different size firing pins

[JCN]

This is likely because the 856 and 380UL use different size firing pins

That’s why I was surprised the kit didn’t work on the 856!

Would you let me know if you run into the same issue on your installs?

I shot the 856 UL at the range today with my least reliable ammo:

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It wasn’t 100% reliable but… better than the Galloway.

I will lube the gun (it’s bone dry right now) and will try normally primed ammo and see if it works.

[jetfire]

That’s why I was surprised the kit didn’t work on the 856!

Would you let me know if you run into the same issue on your installs?

I shot the 856 UL at the range today with my least reliable ammo:

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It wasn’t 100% reliable but… better than the Galloway.

I will lube the gun (it’s bone dry right now) and will try normally primed ammo and see if it works.

Well I’m thinking the pin might have been sized for the smaller gun.

I’ll be trying these installs in a few weeks. I’m headed to Brazil next week for meetings at the factory where I’m going ti attempt to sell Brazil on the idea of an 8 shot moon clip Tracker in 30 Super Carry

[JCN]

Well I’m thinking the pin might have been sized for the smaller gun.

I’ll be trying these installs in a few weeks. I’m headed to Brazil next week for meetings at the factory where I’m going ti attempt to sell Brazil on the idea of an 8 shot moon clip Tracker in 30 Super Carry

You have my best wishes and prayers for that to happen! 9mm cylinder too please and thank you!!

I bought the TK 856 kit… so I’m hoping that maybe my 856 just had a tight channel!

A higher round count gun might not suffer from this issue.

[CSW]

Because since installing the Galloway kit, I've had zero issues with the 856 3".
[makes the sign of the Cross] In fact, there's been zero issues with my Taurus, beyond grips. I can't find a pair of my liking. I've even thought of, but have not tried[yet] a pair of magna style, and perhaps modifying a Tyler to fit.

Been using these, but they are Meh at best.

[JCN]

Because since installing the Galloway kit, I've had zero issues with the 856 3".
[makes the sign of the Cross] In fact, there's been zero issues with my Taurus, beyond grips. I can't find a pair of my liking. I've even thought of, but have not tried[yet] a pair of magna style, and perhaps modifying a Tyler to fit.

Been using these, but they are Meh at best.

What primers are you using? I get the sense that my practice ammo choice has a negative impact on reliability.

[CSW]

I have not reloaded for 38 in years, so I'm using the fodder I had loaded years ago. About 3k worth of reloads.
Mixed brass, CCI small pistol, Hodgdon powder, Berry's plated HBWC, 148gr.
Also factory 158's, whatever flavor I can get.

[WDR]

Congratulations that is my first "son of a....." of the day

I can see an energy drink sponsorship in the future...

[jandbj]

I ordered 3 kits but won’t have time to tear down guns for awhile… hoping the oversized firing pins aren’t the norm.

[valian]

Taurus small frame and Tracker style frame revolvers have always suffered from light primer strikes. Factory springs were usually weak and needed to be heavier, not lighter, for reliability. I had guns back to the factory numerous times with no resolutions to the problems. My solution was shimming the spring which makes trigger pull heavier but more reliable ignition and used only Federal or some winchester primed ammunition.

You have your choice with these Tauri, reliability or nice trigger pull, usually not both. The K frame size revolvers were usually good to go with factory springs..Rossi revolvers suffered from the same problem. The factory spring weights were all over the place. If the factory replaced the springs it likely didn't help. If you happen to get an extra heavy spring on the gun you were just lucky.

[JCN]

Taurus small frame and Tracker style frame revolvers have always suffered from light primer strikes. Factory springs were usually weak and needed to be heavier, not lighter, for reliability. I had guns back to the factory numerous times with no resolutions to the problems. My solution was shimming the spring which makes trigger pull heavier but more reliable ignition and used only Federal or some winchester primed ammunition.

You have your choice with these Tauri, reliability or nice trigger pull, usually not both. The K frame size revolvers were usually good to go with factory springs..Rossi revolvers suffered from the same problem. The factory spring weights were all over the place. If the factory replaced the springs it likely didn't help. If you happen to get an extra heavy spring on the gun you were just lucky.

I’m hoping that some internal fluffing and buffing plus the extended firing pin can make a difference.

They're really pretty similar to the Smiths internally so I'm hoping they can benefit from the same treatment!

[JCN]

So I oiled the gun and ran a box of Federal wadcutters through.

100% function

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Primer strikes look DEEP.

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Not definitive, but promising!

At 8# trigger, I’ll take it!

[jtcarm]

Congratulations that is my first "son of a....." of the day

Use it and I’ll sue[emoji23]

[Yung]

Here is a picture of the TK pin next to an 856 pin.

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[Yung]

Trigger springs from top to bottom: Wolff 9lb, stock 856 EG, and Wolff 6.5lb (still in bag).

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Galloway (bottom) next to Wolff 6.5lb (top).

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It seems neither Wolff trigger return spring can be installed on the 856 EG without some cutting either.

[jetfire]

Trigger springs from top to bottom: Wolff 9lb, stock 856 EG, and Wolff 6.5lb (still in bag).

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Galloway (bottom) next to Wolff 6.5lb (top).

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It seems neither Wolff trigger return spring can be installed on the 856 EG without some cutting either.

That 856 Executive Grade uses some internal parts that are different to the standard 856, which is why some hammer springs may not interchange 1:1. I have a stock spring in my 856 EG and haven't had any complaints about it

[lee n. field]

That 856 Executive Grade uses some internal parts that are different to the standard 856, which is why some hammer springs may not interchange 1:1. I have a stock spring in my 856 EG and haven't had any complaints about it

Interesting. Can you say what?

[valian]

Has anyone tried the large frame TK kit?
I just ordered one for my 817UL (7 shot snub) which has always had problems with light primer strikes with the standard factory springs. I'm hoping the firing pin may provide relief from the problem and I might actually be able to use this revolver for practical purposes someday.

[Dave303]

I installed one today, there were no issues with fitting on my 856 Ulta-lite.
I already had the Galloway spring kit installed
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[jandbj]

Bought three kits and attempted first install today…

Factory firing pin where it goes through breechface is .077”
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All 3 of TK ones are .080”-.081”
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Tried one of the .080” ones… then spent an hour getting it unstuck from the breechface to reinstall the factory one.

Don’t have the patience to try another one tonight.

jetfire ,

Any idea what the factory specifications are for the firing pin diameter?

[JCN]

Bought three kits and attempted first install today…

Factory firing pin where it goes through breechface is .077”
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All 3 of TK ones are .080”-.081”
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Tried one of the .080” ones… then spent an hour getting it unstuck from the breechface to reinstall the factory one.

Don’t have the patience to try another one tonight.

jetfire ,

Any idea what the factory specifications are for the firing pin diameter?

That’s the same issue I had. My Revo was pretty low round count so I think the FP hole was pretty close to new. I think someone else had no fitment issues, but I did.

I had to enlarge the hole a little bit with a Dremel and now it works great.

[4given]

Bought three kits and attempted first install today…

Factory firing pin where it goes through breechface is .077”
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All 3 of TK ones are .080”-.081”
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Tried one of the .080” ones… then spent an hour getting it unstuck from the breechface to reinstall the factory one.

Don’t have the patience to try another one tonight.

jetfire ,

Any idea what the factory specifications are for the firing pin diameter?

That’s drag! I was going to try out one of these kits in my 856 UL but I think I will wait until the issue is resolved.

[jetfire]

I don't recall if I mentioned it in this thread or not, but we actually have several different specs for our firing pins. I'm thinking these might be based off the medium frame spec and not the 856 spec.

[jetfire]

I just talked to TK Custom, and these pins are for the 5T models: 5T: 85/605/905/380 UL

There are different specs for firing pins which are here:

Find bellow a list of some firing pins centerfire:
Firing Pin model 5T: 85/605/905/380 UL
Firing Pin model 856: 856/327/73
Firing pin model 6T: Medium/Compact/Large/Extra-large frame
Firing pin model Polymer: Public Defender Poly/ 605 Poly Protector/ 85 Poly Protector

I'm going to see if I can get Brazil to share the TDP with me for the pins so we can get a full line built.

[Dave303]

I must have had enough tolerance stack for it to work in my 856 without issue.

[jandbj]

I just talked to TK Custom, and these pins are for the 5T models: 5T: 85/605/905/380 UL

There are different specs for firing pins which are here:

Find bellow a list of some firing pins centerfire:
Firing Pin model 5T: 85/605/905/380 UL
Firing Pin model 856: 856/327/73
Firing pin model 6T: Medium/Compact/Large/Extra-large frame
Firing pin model Polymer: Public Defender Poly/ 605 Poly Protector/ 85 Poly Protector

I'm going to see if I can get Brazil to share the TDP with me for the pins so we can get a full line built.

Caleb & I were each having these conversations simultaneously with Eli @ TK Customs.
I can't say enough good things about the customer service from both TK & jetfire.

After talking with Eli, I may just pull a JCN and lightly open up a firing pin channel on one of my steel framed 856's as a guinea pig gun.
I'm quite convinced that the extended firing pin is the missing secret sauce of making these things run with silly light DA triggers.

Eli said he's pulling down the listings for these kits until he can get everything perfect, if you ordered via ebay, click the return button and he'll get you taken care of.

Eli was great to talk to & is very, very appreciative of Caleb's assistance.

[Yung]

I've installed the pins in two EGs with Galloway trigger springs and mainsprings, similar to Dave303 and his UL. They dropped in fine and have not gotten stuck in dry fire, so I'll see how it goes with live rounds.

[JCN]

Caleb & I were each having these conversations simultaneously with Eli @ TK Customs.
I can't say enough good things about the customer service from both TK & jetfire.

After talking with Eli, I may just pull a JCN and lightly open up a firing pin channel on one of my steel framed 856's as a guinea pig gun.
I'm quite convinced that the extended firing pin is the missing secret sauce of making these things run with silly light DA triggers.

Eli said he's pulling down the listings for these kits until he can get everything perfect, if you ordered via ebay, click the return button and he'll get you taken care of.

Eli was great to talk to & is very, very appreciative of Caleb's assistance.

Eli is a super good dude. He built my competition 929.

It doesn’t take much to clearance the channel and I get the sense most well used revolvers wind up getting worn to that tolerance anyway.

[jandbj]

Eli is a super good dude. He built my competition 929.

It doesn’t take much to clearance the channel and I get the sense most well used revolvers wind up getting worn to that tolerance anyway.

#45 or #46 bit for clearancing?

[JCN]

#45 or #46 bit for clearancing?

I didn’t use a drill bit, I used the pointed Dremel grinding tool.

[JCN]

#45 or #46 bit for clearancing?

This one:

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[4given]

Caleb & I were each having these conversations simultaneously with Eli @ TK Customs.
I can't say enough good things about the customer service from both TK & jetfire.

After talking with Eli, I may just pull a JCN and lightly open up a firing pin channel on one of my steel framed 856's as a guinea pig gun.
I'm quite convinced that the extended firing pin is the missing secret sauce of making these things run with silly light DA triggers.

Eli said he's pulling down the listings for these kits until he can get everything perfect, if you ordered via ebay, click the return button and he'll get you taken care of.

Eli was great to talk to & is very, very appreciative of Caleb's assistance.

I hope he is going to let us know when he gets the new kits ready. I’m anxious to try one!

[jandbj]

He signed up to join here & I’ll also let everyone know if I hear.

[Dave303]

With Galloway springs the TK firing pin hits are authoritative in my 856 UL
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On a side note Federal Punch in a speed strip made it through a washing machine cycle and still fired fine.

[Lester Polfus]

I just talked to TK Custom, and these pins are for the 5T models: 5T: 85/605/905/380 UL

There are different specs for firing pins which are here:

Find bellow a list of some firing pins centerfire:
Firing Pin model 5T: 85/605/905/380 UL
Firing Pin model 856: 856/327/73
Firing pin model 6T: Medium/Compact/Large/Extra-large frame
Firing pin model Polymer: Public Defender Poly/ 605 Poly Protector/ 85 Poly Protector

I'm going to see if I can get Brazil to share the TDP with me for the pins so we can get a full line built.

You keep doing stuff like this, and I'll be rocking an 856 TORO AIWB, a Taurus t-shirt and a Taurus ball cap by the end of next year.

I'm starting to take Taurus seriously.

[Zeke38]

Just bought a 856 UL last week. Galloway spring kit arrived today. Stock trigger pull heavy but fairly smooth. Will replace the trigger spring and not touch the hammer spring. This little snubby shoots to POA with 120 Federal Punch and it does a very respectable job in the performing of said Punch.

Pics in a few days. This thread has caused me to purchase the 856. Just a 100 rds through it so far, but they have performed flawlessly.

[BK14]

Just bought a 856 UL last week. Galloway spring kit arrived today. Stock trigger pull heavy but fairly smooth. Will replace the trigger spring and not touch the hammer spring. This little snubby shoots to POA with 120 Federal Punch and it does a very respectable job in the performing of said Punch.

Pics in a few days. This thread has caused me to purchase the 856. Just a 100 rds through it so far, but they have performed flawlessly.

The Galloway hammer gave me light strikes, on my bobbed 856. I too left the standard hammer spring, and the Galloway trigger spring. The biggest issue I’m having is that there’s almost a lighted take up from the lighter trigger spring, then the fullness of the hammer spring kicks in, making a smooth trigger pull moderately difficult.

Definitely dry fire a bunch before pulling the side plate off, then cleaning and oiling everything. That did a ton to help the trigger pull.

[willie]

Polishing the firing pin channel and that area of the frame holding the complete firing pin body is a conservative approach that might resolve issues. I would Flitz the entire firing pin unit too. I suspect that some after market kits include a lighter pin return spring. Having tinkered with J frames for decades, I can say that screwing one up is easy. My guess is that the nifty little Taurus may share this trait. I advise against installing a lighter pin return spring. The reason is that this weaker spring may not overcome extra resistance imparted by debris often accumulating in pocket pistols. The Taurus pin unit has a "milled" flat area for a retainer. This retainer acts as a hammer stop. My opinion is that this flat area will trap crud. I'm writing from memory based on having viewed images of the T firing pin unit.

Spring kit and extended firing pin ads often refer to these parts as "competition" parts. I infer that they are implying that these items are not recommended for duty.

[Zeke38]

Finally got the 856 opened up and only found two spots where any of the internal parts were rubbing and causing friction. Stoned them lightly with an Arkansas fine stone and installed the Galloway rebound/trigger spring, and buttoned the little revolver back up. Trigger pull weight dropped by a 1/3 measured by observation when pressing the trigger. Much smoother trigger pull and now a firearm that is much easier to hit with. That hump that appeared in the middle of the trigger stroke is gone. Just a steady pressure all the way through it's arc.

I'm a DAO shooter and I like this little 856.

[jetfire]

Finally got the 856 opened up and only found two spots where any of the internal parts were rubbing and causing friction. Stoned them lightly with an Arkansas fine stone and installed the Galloway rebound/trigger spring, and buttoned the little revolver back up. Trigger pull weight dropped by a 1/3 measured by observation when pressing the trigger. Much smoother trigger pull and now a firearm that is much easier to hit with. That hump that appeared in the middle of the trigger stroke is gone. Just a steady pressure all the way through it's arc.

I'm a DAO shooter and I like this little 856.

With that action job, I do strongly recommend you stick to soft primers for anything serious. I'll get an occasional FTF in my modified TORO when I'm using "Primers other than Federal"

[Zeke38]

Thanks Jetfire. Hammer spring is stock. My carry SD load is 120Punch +P by Federal. They go bang every time and Best of all they also shoot to POA.