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Pnut
06-01-2023, 01:54 AM
Since someone started a thread about torque wrench/tools, I thought I’d ask about what 1/4” bits you guys are using? Over the years, I’ve found that I really like Wera and Wiha brands. They both last very long and have been true to their posted size. I’ve tried other bits that fit loosely in the hex head fasteners but when I tried it with the Weras or Wihas, there was much less wobble and much less chance of stripping heads.

The Wera hex also have and interesting design called HEX PLUS. It’s supposed to grab the hex slot better, making it less likely to strip.

Tannhauser
06-01-2023, 06:58 AM
I use Wiha or Wera bits myself. I personally haven't noticed much difference between them. My most recent purchase was one or the other brand in 50 packs of several common Torx sizes. I got tired of not being able to find the right Torx bit. Now I have enough bits to keep some in multiple tool boxes. I doubt I'll need to to buy Torx bits again in my lifetime.

LukeNCMX
06-01-2023, 09:58 AM
The bits Borka uses in their kits are high quality, they are re-branded from some east European manufacturer, I don't remember which. The fix-it sticks bits are fine but nothing special.

Shawn Dodson
06-01-2023, 06:38 PM
I use a Chapman set.

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06-01-2023, 07:55 PM
I've heard people rave about PB Swiss being the best hex and Torx keys, albeit not necessarily worth the premium over Wera or Wiha.

Pnut
06-01-2023, 09:18 PM
A little off topic, but I hate that when I buy a set of bits, a good number of the bits are ones I’ll NEVER use!!! Pozi-drive, Robertson, 5 point torx, security torx!?!?!? I can use the security torx in place of regular torx, but the rest are useless to me.

This came up because I checked out PBSwiss’ site and was browsing their bit sets.

frozentundra
06-03-2023, 11:48 PM
A little off topic, but I hate that when I buy a set of bits, a good number of the bits are ones I’ll NEVER use!!! Pozi-drive, Robertson, 5 point torx, security torx!?!?!? I can use the security torx in place of regular torx, but the rest are useless to me.

This came up because I checked out PBSwiss’ site and was browsing their bit sets.

Robertson works really well for me on a lot of hybrid Philips screws/hardware that are more and more common these days. My preference for most electrical components is a #1 Robertson in place of the compatible #2 Phillips.

They are extremely expensive, but I use my Wera 056490 Tool-Check Plus Metric all the time when doing facilities maintenance. It's just so size/weight efficient in my smaller Veto bag. Solves a ton of precarious little problems. I think they do fit better than a lot of bits, but not impact rated. Also, not necessarily the complete selection for gun/optic work. I take out the Pozi bits and replace them with SAE hex bits. Maybe not worth the money unless you are a little obsessed with tools or use them all day.

I think the best money I've ever spent on bits-value for dollar- is the Makita Impact XPS 60 piece at ~$25. They seem to fit quite well and are impact rated. The case is great; very size efficient in a bag/drawer compared to Milwaukee or DeWalt. There are a buch of duplicates, but I take some out and it gives me lots of room to build out a larger selection. I've made a lot of money with these doing construction and maintenance. They really take use/abuse well. I think they are also harder to lose because of the bright finish. They stand out.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-IMPACT-XPS-Impact-Bit-Set-60-Piece-E-01644/311427312

Pnut
06-04-2023, 12:34 PM
I’m more of a hobbyist, so I’ve never run into a lot of these specialty fasteners. But I do appreciate quality tools. I picked up the Wera Bit Check Plus kit that you mentioned a few years ago and it lives in my EDC bag! Very handy for EDC.

Speaking of EDC bit sets, I recently purchased 2 different Wiha GoBox sets that I really like. They now love in my range bag. One has a tiny ratchet and uses 1/4” bit. The other is a precision driver that uses micro bit. I replaced some of the unused bits for other bits I’d commonly need on my guns.

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TCinVA
06-07-2023, 07:57 AM
I've been very pleased with the Chapman Precision Mity Master #1000 (https://chapmanmfg.com/products/1000-mity-master-set?variant=31183691743297) set. The bits fit flat, phillips, torx, and allen heads precisely with proper engagement to protect against stripping out the heads. They are strong enough to take some torque, but have sufficient flex in the bit itself to let you feel when the fastener is probably tight enough.

And they're made in the US, which I prefer if I can get it.

They aren't the cheapest option but I've been using it for years and I've always been glad I made the investment.

Spartan1980
06-07-2023, 10:03 AM
TCinVA I have that same set that I absolutely love. However, I have had an issue with the star bits. The proper one wouldn't fit the optic screws Holosun sent with my SCS.

It was very close but the inner profile on the screws was just different enough to prevent the bit from going in. I had to grab the Wheeler set. :(

Pnut
06-07-2023, 10:25 AM
Is it possible that Holosun ships with TORX-PLUS fasteners? I ran into this problem a while back… picked up a set of Torx Plus bits made by Wiha.
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Archer1440
06-07-2023, 01:55 PM
My experience with WIHA hex (Allen) wrenches was not good, despite their good reputation. For Allen keys, Bondhus is very good in my personal experience.

My Torx sets are from Kyoto Tool (KTC) and are certainly the very best I have ever used, but I didn't have to pay for them- they were a gift from a friend in Japan. Their prices are apparently even higher than Snap-On. However, so is the quality.

Spartan1980
06-07-2023, 02:16 PM
My experience with WIHA hex (Allen) wrenches was not good, despite their good reputation. For Allen keys, Bondhus is very good in my personal experience.

My Torx sets are from Kyoto Tool (KTC) and are certainly the very best I have ever used, but I didn't have to pay for them- they were a gift from a friend in Japan. Their prices are apparently even higher than Snap-On. However, so is the quality.

Unbrako used to be good too. Unbrako and Bondus were all that were bought in every machine shop I ever worked in. Because everything else was too hard and would snap off or too soft and would just twist and then break off when following up some nitwit that couldn't torque a set screw properly. Unbrako and Bondus had it down to a perfect science.

Pnut
06-11-2023, 12:01 AM
Just picked up this neat little set from Harbor Freight. Picked it up mostly for the cool mini flex head ratchet and because I had a 25% coupon. I can’t comment on the quality of the bits, but I don’t expect much based on the source. I’ll use them till they wear out and replace them with quality bits later.

It only came with 4 standard sized hex bits, so I replaced them with a set of 10 standard bits I had in my tool box. I also added the labels myself.

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Trigger
06-11-2023, 06:47 AM
I’ve had good luck with bits from aircraft tool suppliers like Yard store.

https://www.yardstore.com/consumables/screwdriving/torx-insert-bits

Spartan1980
06-11-2023, 10:20 AM
Is it possible that Holosun ships with TORX-PLUS fasteners? I ran into this problem a while back… picked up a set of Torx Plus bits made by Wiha.
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I finally drug the M&P out of the safe and looked. The SCS screws are standard Torx. At least in profile appearance. The screws could be an odd sized version of Torx or I just got a bit that is out of spec. I don't know which as Chapman claims their star bits are designed for Torx and are better for Torx.

Pnut
07-01-2023, 06:29 PM
I dug out my old Borka Tools wrench. It’s probably over 15 years old. The bits it came with are marked MOUNTZ. I looked them up and they make industrial quality torque wrenches, torque testers, etc. They offer their bits in bulk packs of individual sizes.

RennBaer
07-05-2023, 10:07 AM
MIP makes the best hex drivers and bits I have ever used. They have an extremely precise fit, and they're machined from tool steel drill blanks with sharp edges that bite into even partially rounded out hex screws. I've used them to easily remove screws that I thought would require an extractor.

https://www.miponline.com/mip-rc-tools

Pnut
07-05-2023, 10:33 AM
Speaking of EXTRACTORS, has anyone tried the MAC Tools R.B.R.T. bits? I’ve seen quite a few positive reviews on Youtube. I also discovered that they might be rebranded GripEdge tools. From what I’ve seen, they can be used as a general tool or as an extractor.

whomever
07-05-2023, 06:16 PM
I've been driving thousands of torx head screws for construction, decking, etc. This is pretty abusive use, with an impact driver. I've had the best luck with these, one bit lasts for a thousand plus screws:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/GRK-Fasteners-T-15-2-in-Steel-Star-Bits-2-Pack-772691874276/202349116

I haven't tried e.g. Wiha, but I have been real happy with these. The company wants to use a lot of their screws, and you won't if the bits don't last.

That make one inch ones as well, usually the box of screws includes one, but I prefer the 2 inch for impact drivers and buy them separately.