Beretta PMX pistol/PCC/SBS

[pangloss]

The Beretta PMX is finally available in the US, and now I am extra sad about the brace ban.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQlAVwznkkk

PCCs/braced pistols often find their way on to my "want to buy" list, but they seldom make it to the top. The fact that I'd want to register this pistol as a SBR makes me less likely to buy it. However, if anyone shoots or buys one, I'd love to hear opinions on it. (Also, if we already have a thread on the PMX, I couldn't find it. Seems like we do though. Feel free to merge as appropriate.)

EDIT: I meant to write SBR in the title, not SBS. Oh well.

[WobblyPossum]

If I didn’t already have my APC9 handling PCC/SBR duties, I’d probably buy one of these because I think it looks cool, I like Beretta as a company, and I never knew the B&T P26 was a thing when they were actually released.

[Gadfly]

The LAST thing I need is another expensive gun with proprietary mags that are gonna be expensive.

But I LOVE Beretta, and this thing looks a lot sexier than an EVO Scorpion.

I like the look...

[Trukinjp13]

Does it take Glock mags, asking for a friend


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[crosseyedshooter]

How does this compare to the GHM9 (which can take Glock mags)?

[HCM]

How does this compare to the GHM9 (which can take Glock mags)?

The standard configuration for both the GHM and APC models from B&T take expensive proprietary mags which are fragile.

You can get these models with Glock or SIG P320 mag compatible lowers or you can upgrade an existing gun by buying the lower which is approximately $400.

It’s worth noting that when the US military bought the APC 9K they bought the standard BNT mad configuration rather than the Glock or Sig mag versions even though both of those pistols are in use with the U.S. Military.

[e_stern]

Does it take Glock mags, asking for a friend


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No, it's a B&T Pattern magazine, but Beretta redesigned them so they aren't quite so fragile.

[Trukinjp13]

No, it's a B&T Pattern magazine, but Beretta redesigned them so they aren't quite so fragile.

Was
A
Joke


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[perlslacker]

I had a harebrained idea to SBR a CX4, because they're cheap and they take 92 mags, but this looks like a cooler option in every way other than cost.

[crosseyedshooter]

According to TFB, the PMX is based on the TEC9, similar to B&T P26. Again, not seeing the appeal of this over the GHM9 in a similar price range. Also, from the TFBTV shooting footage, the mags look suspiciously like B&T mags. It'll be interesting to get more info as these show up in private owners' hands.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4URSC9IGwaI

[Bucky]

The LAST thing I need is another expensive gun with proprietary mags that are gonna be expensive.


So it doesn’t take 92 mags???

Serious W.T.F.

OK, so it takes APX mags, right? PX4 mags? Cougar mags? 9000 mags??

[MTP]

So it doesn’t take 92 mags???

Serious W.T.F.

OK, so it takes APX mags, right? PX4 mags? Cougar mags? 9000 mags??

This is for all intents and purposes a Beretta-made B&T P26, brought to market to win the 2019 Italian MoS / Armed Forces submachine gun contract (replacement for the PM12). Given how euro gun companies operate, magazine compatibility to appeal to the civilian market was probably wayyyy at the bottom of their design requirements list.

[e_stern]

This is for all intents and purposes a Beretta-made B&T P26, brought to market to win the 2019 Italian MoS / Armed Forces submachine gun contract (replacement for the PM12). Given how euro gun companies operate, magazine compatibility to appeal to the civilian market was probably wayyyy at the bottom of their design requirements list.

They would never use a single feed magazine in a duty use SMG at this point. 92 (and other) Mag compatibility on the CX4 was primarily because it was intended to be sold civilian market where ultimate feed reliability in full auto wasn't a major consideration. Double column feed is far more reliable in duty conditions.