LEOSA & Magazine

[snowwolfe]

Is a LEOSA retiree allowed to carry/possess a grreater than a 30 round magazine?

[Ndbbm]

Someone will be along to correct me if I screw this up. You’re bound by whatever the local magazine restrictions are is your carrying under Leosa. It covers the gun and duty ammo but not magazine capacity.

Jason

[WobblyPossum]

Someone will be along to correct me if I screw this up. You’re bound by whatever the local magazine restrictions are is your carrying under Leosa. It covers the gun and duty ammo but not magazine capacity.

Jason

This is correct. LEOSA defines the firearms as the gun and ammunition. The statute makes no mention of the magazines. If the jurisdiction you’re traveling to has a magazine capacity restriction, such as NY and NJ with 10 rounds for example, you are limited to that capacity when you are there.

[gtmtnbiker98]

This is correct. LEOSA defines the firearms as the gun and ammunition. The statute makes no mention of the magazines. If the jurisdiction you’re traveling to has a magazine capacity restriction, such as NY and NJ with 10 rounds for example, you are limited to that capacity when you are there.

LEOSA covers the firearm, not ammunition and magazines. Must abide by local laws concerning mag capacity and ammunition type (namely NJ).

[blues]

LEOSA covers the firearm, not ammunition and magazines. Must abide by local laws concerning mag capacity and ammunition type (namely NJ).

That is not correct. Any federally legal handgun ammunition is lawful under LEOSA and, further, NJ was ordered, following a suit by FLEOA and the FOP to desist in their efforts to stop qualified individuals from carrying hollow point ammo. I'll post a link shortly.

[WobblyPossum]

LEOSA covers the firearm, not ammunition and magazines. Must abide by local laws concerning mag capacity and ammunition type (namely NJ).

The Law Enforcement Safety Act Improvements Act of 2010 amended the original LEOSA to include ammunition (as well as multiple other changes not necessarily pertinent to this thread):


(e) As used in this section— (1) the term ‘‘firearm’’—
(A) except as provided in this paragraph, has the same meaning as in section 921 of this title;
(B) includes ammunition not expressly prohibited by Fed- eral law or subject to the provisions of the National Fire- arms Act

ETA: looks like blues beat me to it.

[blues]

Decision:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?42349-LEOSA-FLEOA-amp-NJ-FOP-Take-on-NJ&p=1365908&viewfull=1#post1365908


Lawsuit:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?42349-LEOSA-FLEOA-amp-NJ-FOP-Take-on-NJ

[LtDave]

The last time I visited Washington DC, about 7 years ago, they limited you to 10 round mags and you could only carry one spare.

[TGS]

The last time I visited Washington DC, about 7 years ago, they limited you to 10 round mags and you could only carry one spare.

Yes and no. The 10 round mag limit yes.

That DC code on 20 total rounds was very specific to persons carrying firearms using a concealed carry license. It would not be applicable to QLEOs carrying under LEOSA.

It's also no longer in effect.

"DC Code 2343.1: A person issued a concealed carry license by the Chief, while carrying the pistol, shall not carry more ammunition than is required to fully load the pistol twice, and in no event shall that amount be greater than twenty (20) rounds of ammunition."

[Glenn E. Meyer]

This may be worth nothing and wrong but a retired NYS cop, shooting buddy tells me that he is not capacity restricted.

[WobblyPossum]

This may be worth nothing and wrong but a retired NYS cop, shooting buddy tells me that he is not capacity restricted.

NY, and likely other states, have statutes in place allowing retired NY LEOs to keep their standard capacity magazines. This doesn’t apply to LEOs who retired somewhere else and are visiting NY.

[blues]

NY, and likely other states, have statutes in place allowing retired NY LEOs to keep their standard capacity magazines. This doesn’t apply to LEOs who retired somewhere else and are visiting NY.


^^^^^Exactly right.^^^^^


Even if they had been employed by an agency in NY prior to retiring. (NY has some convoluted regs.)

I checked this with one of the main attorneys at FEDS when I still was covered by them a few years back (as I was planning a trip up to NY).