Blazer 115 aluminum 9mm accuracy problems

[Warped Mindless]

Has anyone ever had problems with this ammo?

I’ve never had problems with blazer brass but this is my first time using the aluminum and it seems to all be shooting to the left in my sig 365s. Thought maybe I was just having a bad range day so I loaded up a few mags of federal 115 brass and the pistol shot accurate. Went back to the blazer and again all my rounds impacted left. Not low left, just left in general.

Is this a known problem with this brand?

[FrankB]

I accidentally bought a case of blazer aluminum 115 grain 9mm last month, and it shoots dead on out of a Glock 19 G5, CZ 75 Compact, and a Sig P365.

[BillSWPA]

I used to shoot it all the time in a G26 without any problems. It was cheap and I do not reload.

[Navin Johnson]

Spend an extra $1 or 2 a box

[FNFAN]

I have a Gen4 Glock 19 that prefers the 124gr Blazer aluminum over any of about 7 brands/bullet weight combo's I've tried in it. Dramatically smaller grouping with that load. The 115gr Blazer aluminum were just so-so.

[Wayne Dobbs]

Back in the "good ole days" (early 2000s), I used to buy this load for $79.80/1000 and $73.40/1000 on sale at Academy Sports. It was the most consistent factory ammo I ever chronographed, showing 1160 fps, ES of 20ish and repeated single digit SDs. It was shocking in all respects (in a good way). It may not shoot well in your pistol(s), but I was always very happy with it.

[BobM]

It was the training ammo I bought when we issued 5906s. No issues with the pistols. However, we had two MP5s, one of them wouldn’t run with it so I bought remanufactured from Black Hills for those.

[ST911]

Has anyone ever had problems with this ammo?

I’ve never had problems with blazer brass but this is my first time using the aluminum and it seems to all be shooting to the left in my sig 365s. Thought maybe I was just having a bad range day so I loaded up a few mags of federal 115 brass and the pistol shot accurate. Went back to the blazer and again all my rounds impacted left. Not low left, just left in general.

Is this a known problem with this brand?

I've had a batch of that (sku 3509) in the last year or so that is pretty variable in impulse and stops at least one vetted and reliable gen4 G19. No POI change like you're describing though. Like others said, it was previously okay.

[Molon]

Has anyone ever had problems with this ammo?

I’ve never had problems with blazer brass but this is my first time using the aluminum and it seems to all be shooting to the left in my sig 365s. Thought maybe I was just having a bad range day so I loaded up a few mags of federal 115 brass and the pistol shot accurate. Went back to the blazer and again all my rounds impacted left. Not low left, just left in general.

Is this a known problem with this brand?

And how does that mean that the Blazer ammunition has "accuracy problems." Different loads can shoot to different points of impact; that's a matter fact. It's why your sights on your handgun are adjustable.

I fired thousands upon thousands of rounds of 115 grain Blazer through my SIG P229 and SIG P239 before I stated reloading and never had any issues with it.

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[Coyotesfan97]

It was the training ammo I bought when we issued 5906s. No issues with the pistols. However, we had two MP5s, one of them wouldn’t run with it so I bought remanufactured from Black Hills for those.

HK Training was pretty specific about not running aluminum cases through MP5s due to the fluted chambers. The range always bought brass cases for us even when we used Blazer for our pistol practice ammunition. I’m sure at some point I probably ran some Blazer through my MP5 but I don’t recall anything occurring.

[Archer1440]

HK Training was pretty specific about not running aluminum cases through MP5s due to the fluted chambers. The range always bought brass cases for us even when we used Blazer for our pistol practice ammunition. I’m sure at some point I probably ran some Blazer through my MP5 but I don’t recall anything occurring.

Same reason it’s a bit hinky out of a P7.

[Jamie]

Back in the "good ole days" (early 2000s), I used to buy this load for $79.80/1000 and $73.40/1000 on sale at Academy Sports. It was the most consistent factory ammo I ever chronographed, showing 1160 fps, ES of 20ish and repeated single digit SDs. It was shocking in all respects (in a good way). It may not shoot well in your pistol(s), but I was always very happy with it.

I recall those days fondly.
Academy in Gulfport, MS was a regular stop for me. I purchased and shot thousands of those 115 gr rounds through multiple classes with nary a hitch in my G19's.
It was great ammo at a great price back then. I even stopped handloading 9mm for several years as Blazer was so affordable and worked so well.

(FWIW my notes show it chronoed at 1140 from my G19 in 2005).

I have no idea as regards the current production. But may try some when/if it reaches a lower price point.

[Wayne Dobbs]

Jamie,

I forgot to state those chrono numbers came from a well worn G-17 Gen 2 pistol, which matches nicely with your G-19 numbers.

[Jamie]

As I was putting some brass on to tumble a bit ago I scrounged around my ammo stock. I actually had a few hundred rounds on 115 gr Aluminum Blazer 9mm from 2019.

Just for S's & G's I'll chrono some Tuesday when I go to the outdoor range. I wanted to chrono a few more rounds of that Georgia Arms .38 spl Defensive WC anyway. I'll just make sure to take my G17 for the Blazer.

Still hoping for 2019 prices, but not holding my breath.

ETA. I just check again and the SKU is 3509. Guess I purchased it since 2019 LOL

[Wayne Dobbs]

As I was putting some brass on to tumble a bit ago I scrounged around my ammo stock. I actually had a few hundred rounds on 115 gr Aluminum Blazer 9mm from 2019.

Just for S's & G's I'll chrono some Tuesday when I go to the outdoor range. I wanted to chrono a few more rounds of that Georgia Arms .38 spl Defensive WC anyway. I'll just make sure to take my G17 for the Blazer.

Still hoping for 2019 prices, but not holding my breath.

ETA. I just check again and the SKU is 3509. Guess I purchased it since 2019 LOL

Please let us know on both loads. I had a peripheral part of birthing the Georgia Arms load along with Mark Fricke, Darryl Bolke and Rob Garrett and the Pat Rogers Memorial Revolver Roundup crowd (of which I'm a cofounder and presenter). That load has been very good in the various J-frames I've shot it in and shoots right to the sights at 10 yards on the revolvers I've shot it in.

[Jamie]

Please let us know on both loads. I had a peripheral part of birthing the Georgia Arms load along with Mark Fricke, Darryl Bolke and Rob Garrett and the Pat Rogers Memorial Revolver Roundup crowd (of which I'm a cofounder and presenter). That load has been very good in the various J-frames I've shot it in and shoots right to the sights at 10 yards on the revolvers I've shot it in.

Absolutely.

I'm really happy to have that .38 load available, so my thanks to all of you.

I have been following the info put out on "On Duty/Off Duty" podcast among other places. Beautiful looking ammo. Georgia Arms makes some good stuff!

Now. if only you guys can talk them into making a .32 H&R Mag/.32 S&W WC Self Defense load for my LCR. Just hoping. :)

[Jamie]

I was able to make to the outdoor range this morning.

The Blazer 115 gr 9mm (3509) ran great for me in my old G19 and G17.

Chrono Data:

G19 (Holosun 509) 1101-1104-1101-1098-1098 avg 110 fps (this is the same G19 used in 2005)

G17 (RMR) 1112-1128-1129-1123-1121 avg 1122 fps

I seriously lack the skills of the majority of shooters here. Getting old and slow. But I found this ammo to shoot well and to my RDS on both guns.

The overwhelming majority of my ammo is handloads, but I'll certainly pick up some more Blazer when/if pricing improves.

Wayne Dobbs
More coming on the Georgia Arms .38 spl




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Link to Georgia Arms .38 post
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?56540-Georgia-Arms-38-spl-Snub-Nose-wadcutter-ammo-and-quot-Safestop-quot-ammo&p=1473345#post1473345