Staccato or Wilson Combat X9 series for carry?

[MrHammer]

Hey everyone, looking for some insights from anyone experienced with either. Currently have a staccato Cs but considering replacing it with an Edcx9 or Sfx9. Will be my main edc and plan on putting around 500-1k rounds a month through it. Any pros/cons are appreciated

[Robinson]

Hey everyone, looking for some insights from anyone experienced with either. Currently have a staccato Cs but considering replacing it with an Edcx9 or Sfx9. Will be my main edc and plan on putting around 500-1k rounds a month through it. Any pros/cons are appreciated

Why are you considering replacing the Staccato?

[JHC]

JCN interested in your thoughts on this.

[Biggy]

Earlier this year when I had 1911 Hi-cap 9mm fever, I drove around 100 miles to a gun store to handle some Staccato pistols and a Wilson Combat SFT9 Pistol. My hand size is somewhere between medium and large and I preferred the thinner grip on the no grip panels Wilson SFT9 over the Staccato pistols. For *me* the grip frame on the Staccato pistols were just a little to thick and chunky feeling. For *me* I think the Wilson would carry a little better and the reliability, shootability and accuracy between the pistols is not enough to matter to me. *If* I (and I am not) were to get a 1911 hi-cap 9mm pistol today I would most probably get a Dan Wesson DWX Compact and put a low mounted Aimpoint ACRO P2 RDS on it, and I would also change out the red trigger shoe for a black one. To *me* and my hand size the grip frame of the DWX feels better than the Staccato or the Wilson pistols.

[MrHammer]

Why are you considering replacing the Staccato?

I do like it but the 3.5” barrel with a height taller than a Glock 17 makes zero sense to me. Seems like a c2 with a grip reduction would be a better option all while having threaded options, much better aftermarket support, mag compatibility, cheaper, and a longer barrel. I have no experience with the Wilson’s but they seem more refined, thinner, more proven(and cheaper) mags, and just on paper seem better designed for carry. Grip safety also squeals when pressed and I’m having guide rod rust after 2 weeks and not even carrying it.

[HCM]

Are you considering the new Stacatto CS as well or just the C2?

If the slimmer grip of the Wilson is attractive you should look at the CS as well as the C2.

[1911Nut]

I was looking at the Staccato C2 as well as the CS, along with the WC SFX9, EDC9, and SFT9. Ultimately, I chose the WC SFT9.

I like the SFT9 because:
1. It is slimmer than the EDC9 and the C2 and I prefer the subjective "feel" of the SFT9
2. It has a bushing barrel vs. the bull barrel of the EDC2 and both Staccato pistols
3. It has a significantly better out-of-the-box trigger than either of the Staccato pistols
4. It has an internal extractor and all the other pistols i perused and handled had internal extractors
5. It has a 4.25" barrel. The EDC9 has a 4"barrel, the CS has a 3.5"barrel, and the C2 has a 3.9" barrel
6. I prefer the more "traditional 1911 look" of the SFT9 (slide profile, checkering, no light rail)

It should be pretty obvious that most of my decision to purchase the SFT9 was based on personal preference, as barrel lengths, extractor types, and "feel" differ among buyers.

A couple of observations with the SFT9 so far:
1. This thing SHOOTS! It is very very accurate, with several different types of ammo so far
2. Despite WC stating that it "should" fit most 1911 "Commander" holsters, it DOESN'T. It fits SOME leather holsters I happen to have, but none of my Commander Kydex holsters. Hopefully, holster makers will catch up before long.

I think I am going to really like this pistol. I plan to wring it out a bit, carry it after I feel comfortable with the reliability, and shoot it in some IDPA matches. The 1911 bug bit me again recently, after putting them up for Glock and CZ pistols over the past few years, and I am really enjoying shooting my many 1911's in both 9mm and .45 again, so this new Wilson Combat pistol is a welcome addition to the battery.

I really, really thought I would ultimately purchase a Staccato P and/or C2, but the "blocky/STI" design as compared to the SFT9 convinced me otherwise.

No help at all when comparing a Staccato to a Wilson Combat, but here is a link comparing the Wilson Combat SFT9, EDC9, and SFX9:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aWPcH202O8

[Bucky]

While I don’t own a Staccato, I have a few STIs, including the VIP, which is a fine piece. My EDC X9 is my EDC. As stated, less blockier, and carries better. ALSO, no grip safety. I did a year long experiment, which proved to me a grip safety is not ideal on a carry gun, for me.

[YVK]

Those WC SF/X9 guns, are they series 70 style? No FP block?

[HeavyDuty]

While I don’t own a Staccato, I have a few STIs, including the VIP, which is a fine piece. My EDC X9 is my EDC. As stated, less blockier, and carries better. ALSO, no grip safety. I did a year long experiment, which proved to me a grip safety is not ideal on a carry gun, for me.

I’m the exact opposite - I wouldn’t carry a 1911 pattern pistol or similar without a grip safety, which rules the EDC X9 right out. My checkbook breathed a sigh of relief.

[JCN]

JCN interested in your thoughts on this.

Thanks for the tag!

I carried the EDC X9 as my primary gun for some months.

It’s an extraordinarily accurate and smooth gun without sacrificing reliability. It runs well even dirty and isn’t finicky in the least.

Very ergonomic as well. Carries like a heavy G19.

Downsides? Proprietary everything and little aftermarket option availability.

I don’t have a Staccato so I can’t comment much. If it’s traditional compact 2011, then the dimensions of the WC might be beneficial.

EDIT: I like the EDC frames more than the SFX frames because I like the contours to fill my palms rather than slab sided squares. Just personal ergo preferences.

[MrHammer]

I like my Cs but it makes zero sense to me. It has essentially a micro compact barrel with an overall height taller than a Glock 17. In the staccato lineup a c2 with a grip reduction seems to make more sense. Better velocity, threaded options, MUCH more aftermarket support, mag compatibility, less recoil, and cheaper. The Wilson’s seem better to have less sharp edges, a little shorter in height, more proven (and cheaper) mags, and just more refined overall. Although I don’t have any experience other than holding an sfx9. The grip safety I can take or leave, I like it for aiwb but mine has been sticky and squealing since day 1. I’ll have to check out an sft9 also. I appreciate the comments so far

[1911Nut]

Those WC SF/X9 guns, are they series 70 style? No FP block?

Yes

[NathanD]

Having carried both, the best I can say is the staccato carries like a G17 and the WC carries like a G19. That’s about it. Tomato tomatoe.

[shane45]

I was considering going down the wilson path but the thing that gave me pause was reports from owners that wanted seemingly simple parts or changes. Wilson will not do this. You have to send the pistol in and the wait times are allegedly long. As I understand it many of even the simple parts are proprietary and wilson will not sell them.

[heyyouduh]

I was considering going down the wilson path but the thing that gave me pause was reports from owners that wanted seemingly simple parts or changes. Wilson will not do this. You have to send the pistol in and the wait times are allegedly long. As I understand it many of even the simple parts are proprietary and wilson will not sell them.

i went through a similar process as Staccatos have increased in cost (and there's some good sales on Wilsons) I looked into the compact/carry options from Wilson but the turnaround times for simple work was a turn off. Ie I'd want ambi safeties and most of the ready to ship ones I've see are not and therefore it'd have to be a customer order from WC which takes awhile.

[Bucky]

i went through a similar process as Staccatos have increased in cost (and there's some good sales on Wilsons) I looked into the compact/carry options from Wilson but the turnaround times for simple work was a turn off. Ie I'd want ambi safeties and most of the ready to ship ones I've see are not and therefore it'd have to be a customer order from WC which takes awhile.

I’d like to think that if the only “extra” thing you want was ambidextrous safeties, they can pull a ready to ship and fit a new safety on said gun. Just speculating, it doesn’t hurt to make a phone call that’s what you really want.

[Spectre3]

OP already has a CS. Considering the mags he already has, and based on his own statement about a C2 with a grip reduction, a new Staccato C makes the most sense.

[heyyouduh]

I’d like to think that if the only “extra” thing you want was ambidextrous safeties, they can pull a ready to ship and fit a new safety on said gun. Just speculating, it doesn’t hurt to make a phone call that’s what you really want.

I have in the past, was given generic estimates and told to make a custom order. To be clear this isn't to bash them, just pointing out they seem to be more on the "custom" end of the spectrum vs mass produced.

[Bucky]

I have in the past, was given generic estimates and told to make a custom order. To be clear this isn't to bash them, just pointing out they seem to be more on the "custom" end of the spectrum vs mass produced.

I was an early adapter of the EDC X9. I still praise the gun after several years now. This coming from someone FAR from being a Wilson fanboy.

[Elwin]

I think the X9 is a great gun and I would consider owning one as a double stack 9mm 1911 option if I ever went that route, but the inability to change out parts yourself is a huge turnoff. One major reason I like the 1911 is being able to maintain and modify it myself. After having to send a P99 back to Walther twice in just 10,000 rounds, I told myself future guns needed to be 1911s, Glocks, or Beretta 92s, or something else similarly easy to fix.

Staccato is onto something making a compact double stack 9mm that is as close to normal 1911/2011 spec as possible. I’m assuming that if one wanted to repair or modify that gun, it wouldn’t be any harder than a traditional 2011.