Side by side comparison videos of various non ported/ported/comped Glock 19s

[Lon]

Got out to the range this morning to take some slo-mo video of various G19 configurations. Most shots were Norma 124FMJ. I shot “strings” of 1/2/3/4/5 rounds as fast as the dot settled. So fire 1, pause, fire 2, pause, fire 3, pause, fire 4, pause, fire 5. For reference, the black lines on the USPSA target are 1” apart.

Non ported barrel w Gen 3 stock recoil spring v Lucky 7 ported barrel w Gen 3 stock recoil spring.

https://youtu.be/AT5UZ11oT8E

Non ported barrel w Gen 3 stock recoil spring v Lucky 7 ported barrel with 15lb recoil spring.

https://youtu.be/Zhrc5L0MkR8

Non ported barrel w Gen 3 stock recoil spring v Radian Ramjet/Afterburner w Gen 4 stock recoil spring

https://youtu.be/1Cf-x8d3duU

Non ported barrel w Gen 3 stock recoil spring v Radian Ramjet/Afterburner w 15lb recoil spring

https://youtu.be/iM-LQYk4ceo

Non ported barrel w Gen 3 stock recoil spring v stock G19.5

https://youtu.be/TF8iOLPIROc

Lucky 7 w 15lb spring v Ramjet/Afterburner w 15lb spring

https://youtu.be/u6-nnhB9Miw

And last, I ran 5 rds of 124 +P Gold Dots through the Lucky 7 and Ramjet/Afterburner 15lb recoil spring uppers.

https://youtu.be/09D2eb8n70Q

Completely unscientific, but to me, the Lucky 7s were the hands down winner between the 7s and the Ramjet/Afterburner.

Reference target @5 yards.
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[Mark D]

Thanks Lon - those videos are outstanding. I'm really impressed with the Lucky 7 porting.

I think it was discussed earlier in the thread, but I can't recall the details. Does the Lucky 7 increase the noise significantly?

[Lon]

Thanks Lon - those videos are outstanding. I'm really impressed with the Lucky 7 porting.

I think it was discussed earlier in the thread, but I can't recall the details. Does the Lucky 7 increase the noise significantly?

I’m really impressed with the Lucky 7s as well. I just put the PMM Ultra JTTC Comp back on the upper the Ramjet was on. Next side by test will be between the Lucky 7s and the Ultra.

I always have electronic muffs on so I can’t tell. I’ve got a decibel meter. I’ll try to get out this week and check to see the difference.

[Mark D]

Next side by test will be between the Lucky 7s and the Ultra.

Looking forward to seeing the results.


I always have electronic muffs on so I can’t tell.

If you haven't noticed a difference in noise, that's a good sign. I can usually tell when my buddies switch to their comped pistols, just based on the increased muzzle report.

[psalms144.1]

Looks like a definite improvement in muzzle rise. My only concern is it also seems to be a marked reduction in ejection strength - in several of the videos it appears the brass is barely tumbling out of the L7 ported pistol, frequently hitting the optic. My WILDLY bad experience with early Gen4 Glocks makes me super sensitive to that stuff. If your pistols are running fine and it doesn't bother you, I say rock on!

[awp_101]

10/10 would watch again.

[Lon]

10/10 would watch again.

Some new videos added. Comparison of Lucky 7s and PMM Ultra JTTC. I gotta say, the Lucky 7s are crushing it. I’m too lazy to post them all. Here’s one. Go to my channel to find the rest.


https://youtu.be/BwYUUZThqdw

[Lon]

Looking forward to seeing the results.



If you haven't noticed a difference in noise, that's a good sign. I can usually tell when my buddies switch to their comped pistols, just based on the increased muzzle report.

Took my decibel meter out today. No noticeable difference.

[Mark D]

Took my decibel meter out today. No noticeable difference.

Thanks Lon. Based on your threads, I'll be sending a pistol to Monsoon Tactical (https://monsoontactical.com/product/lucky-7s/) for Lucky 7s porting.

[Lon]

Thanks Lon. Based on your threads, I'll be sending a pistol to Monsoon Tactical (https://monsoontactical.com/product/lucky-7s/) for Lucky 7s porting.

You’re welcome. I like helping other people spend money. I’ll probably be sending them another one sometime in the future. Just need to figure out what. Thinking about a 17 top end so I can compare the 17/19.

[spyderco monkey]

Nice review, thank you.

Have you noticed any reduction in velocity from the 7 ports?

I've read the Glock C models lost ~30fps, but thats with a lot less portage than what these look like, and with the ports much closer to the chamber.

https://monsoontactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/IMG_2922-scaled.jpg

[cosermann]

Is is just me, or does the stock Gen 3 have less muzzle rise than the stock Gen 5?

[Lon]

Is is just me, or does the stock Gen 3 have less muzzle rise than the stock Gen 5?

It does appear that way in the video. It wasn’t enough for me to really notice when I was actually shooting. Shooting the comps/ports the difference was very noticeable compared to stock. The day I took those last videos I shot 10 different Casino Drills. 5 w the Ultra JTTC and 5 w/ the Lucky 7s. Times were very similar between the two, but the hits were better with the Lucky 7s.

[Lon]

Nice review, thank you.

Have you noticed any reduction in velocity from the 7 ports?

I've read the Glock C models lost ~30fps, but thats with a lot less portage than what these look like, and with the ports much closer to the chamber.

https://monsoontactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/IMG_2922-scaled.jpg

I still need to borrow a chrono. I’ll check once I get it and update the thread.

[spyderco monkey]

I still need to borrow a chrono. I’ll check once I get it and update the thread.

Excellent, thank you.

[Lon]

Excellent, thank you.

Monsoon was pretty much on the money about the 50fps difference. No difference using the Ultra JTTC.


https://youtu.be/JqojiWwRdE4

[MVS]

I guess I am surprised how low the velocity was out of stock barrel. After the comp that would barely make power factor. Looking forward to sending my GenG19 in.

[Lon]

I guess I am surprised how low the velocity was out of stock barrel. After the comp that would barely make power factor. Looking forward to sending my GenG19 in.

I was too. That was a G19.5 stock barrel and not a G19.3 barrel. The Lucky 7 ports were cut in a G19.3 factory barrel.

[Lon]

New slide/barrel/comp/RDS configuration to try out -

Brownells G19.3 ACRO windowed slide
AETi G19.4 frame
PMM Ultra JTTC barrel/comp
Steiner MPS

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[js475]

Has anyone tried shooting these from retention? One of my reservations about carrying a ported gun is the potential of jacket spalling hitting my face/eyes if I ever had to fire from retention. If they've found a way to mitigate this issue I might consider sending a gun in to try it out.

[Lon]

Has anyone tried shooting these from retention? One of my reservations about carrying a ported gun is the potential of jacket spalling hitting my face/eyes if I ever had to fire from retention. If they've found a way to mitigate this issue I might consider sending a gun in to try it out.

I fired a few rounds from retention. No problems. I’m gonna do some more next time I get to the range.

[DaBigBR]

Great videos.

I've become a fan of comps and ports. I have a Q5SF with the Lucky Sevens, a Dan Wesson TCP 9mm with Monsoon's Genghis Komp, a Glock 41 with their Chunk Port, and several guns with PMM comps. I find all of them to work as advertised.

The Tier 1 Concealed guys did a similar video recently where they calculated the difference in muzzle rise between stock guns and various comped and ported versions. I think they found a difference of 1-2 degrees for most of them. At first blush, that doesn't sound like much, but consider that 1 degree is 60 MOA. This is pretty significant.

I have shot all of the above from retention and find that they are not always pleasant, but are not harmful. I'll take the substantial increase in performance in exchange for getting hit with gas and concussion in the unlikely event I will need to shoot from retention.

[js475]

Thanks for the info. You guys have convinced me to give the Lucky 7's a try!

[t1tan]

...The Tier 1 Concealed guys did a similar video recently...




This thread and that video convinced me to join the queue to send my 45 in for Lucky 7's today.

I have integrated comp slides on all of my Sigs so after seeing the portion of that video with Lucky 7 + Comp I asked Monsoon if they could do it to a P365 Macro but they weren't sure.

[Lon]

This thread and that video convinced me to join the queue to send my 45 in for Lucky 7's today.

I have integrated comp slides on all of my Sigs so after seeing the portion of that video with Lucky 7 + Comp I asked Monsoon if they could do it to a P365 Macro but they weren't sure.

I’ve been thinking of buying another AIM threaded barrel and sending it off to get the Lucky 7 treatment and then playing around with adding a comp. One of the AIM guys had a barrel/comp combo from Monsoon that only had 3 ports instead of 7 plus the comp. Disregard that. Was someone else. 3 ports and a Chunk comp.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrCGbalANVE/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[ldunnmobile]

Anyone try this with a PDP?

[Lon]

Anyone try this with a PDP?

Scott Jedlinski AsianJedi has.


https://youtu.be/e_a118LcLqg