Someone needs to start making this magazine pouch

[BillSWPA]

In a recent pistol-training.com post, the author begins by stating how finding a good magazine pouch is not as easy as it should be.

https://pistol-training.com/magazine-pouches/

One of hte pouches mentioned is the CCC Basic Magazine Pouch. If I had known that CCC was going to go out of business, I would have bought twice as many of these as I did.

The pouch is made from a single piece of Kydex. An opening down one side of the pouch allows the pouch to flex, but the continuation of the front panel around the bottom of the pouch limits this flexing to maximize the tension with which the magazine is held. That single piece of Kydex was also shaped into a belt loop, which could accommodate a double thickness leather belt, and which could be ordered with 1 1/4, 1 1/2, or 1 3/4 inch width.

Rich of CCC began making this pouch at the request of Todd Green when the original maker stopped making it.

Some Kydex holster maker needs to start making this pouch. I have paid a lot of money for magazine pouches, but have not found a better one.

[Colt191145lover]

Same here , hands down the best mag carrier I have ever used!

[HeavyDuty]

I’m really satisfied with my JMCK Kydex single pouches, they are made of a single piece of bent Kydex too with an added belt attachment. I’m not familiar with the CCC ones, and that pic doesn’t tell much. Could they be similar?

[Grouse870]

I like the esstac kiwi pouches. Simple and secure but still fast.

[TGS]

Kytex pouches are almost identical in form and function, with the exception of being a quick detach clip instead of a belt loop.

Kiwis, since mentioned, are apples and oranges to the CCC BMC or similar pouches like the Kytex. I own them all. Kiwis are fucking huge in comparison. Sure, you could use them concealed, but they're really more of an overt option (I use them on my warrant vest), and really aren't an appropriate suggestion as a substitute when talking about super slim, minimalist options.

[BillSWPA]

I’m really satisfied with my JMCK Kydex single pouches, they are made of a single piece of bent Kydex too with an added belt attachment. I’m not familiar with the CCC ones, and that pic doesn’t tell much. Could they be similar?

They are quite different. I will try to take some photos later.

[HeavyDuty]

Kytex pouches are almost identical in form and function, with the exception of being a quick detach clip instead of a belt loop.

Kiwis, since mentioned, are apples and oranges to the CCC BMC or similar pouches like the Kytex. I own them all. Kiwis are fucking huge in comparison. Sure, you could use them concealed, but they're really more of an overt option (I use them on my warrant vest), and really aren't an appropriate suggestion as a substitute when talking about super slim, minimalist options.

There are advantages to being an old dood. People expect us to have lumps.

[Grouse870]

Apologies I’ve never even seen the ccc mag pouches just throwing out an option that I thought were rather small.

[BillSWPA]

Here are some photographs of a CCC Basic Magazine Pouch for a double stack 9mm Glock with a 1 1/4 inch belt loop.

The belt loop as opposed to a clip is critical in my opinion. Some pouches with clips have fallen off my belt at inopportune times. Others are difficult to remove. One clip for a different accessory proved to be damaging to clothing. In this case the belt loop is formed from the same piece of Kydex as the remainder of the pouch.

The front of the pouch continues around the bottom, and then attaches to the back, permitting some flexing of the front panel to allow insertion of a magazine, but also limiting that movement to provide a tighter fit and better retention. While I do like tension screws, this arrangement provides good retention with minimized belt real estate.

[HeavyDuty]

That’s ingenious.

[WDR]

Those are a very slick simple way to make a pouch out of kydex. The only down side to anything Kydex that flexes, is that it can eventually crack. Like holsters with wings, sweat guards, formed "clips" etc.

I've used the Comp-Tac single mag pouches for a long time, and a while back got into a deal for four or five of them in a package deal with a Glock I wanted. Adjustable for retention, and fairly simply made from one piece of kydex. They are not the best concealment wise, but they stay secure on a belt, despite being designed to slip/clip over the top. The bad news, is that if you don/doff them by snapping them over the belt, instead of threading them on the belt like a loop, you will eventually cause a stress crack across the top of the formed kydex loop/clip. I've busted quite a few that way over the years, so I try to thread them on if at all possible.

Originally, Comp-Tac used formed Kydex clips for their C-TAC holster, and they would get the same cracks at the top of the belt loops/clips. I broke quite a few of those too, over the years. They eventually went to an injection molded clip with a flexible plastic that wouldn't crack. Awesome upgrade when they went to those. I carried in a C-TAC for a very long time. The original holsters were better, IMHO, than their current offerings, other than molded clips. They were basically hand made, and very smooth, while also being well fitted to the guns. Some of the changes they made when updating production to CNC'd holster forms etc, resulted in holsters that were more pointy and pokey in places than their old ones.

Since I've started carrying AIWB, I've been using a JM Custom Kydex mag pouch ( the long adjustable one) and been pretty happy with it. I keep meaning to try one of his standard AIWB pouches, but have not placed an order recently.

[Joe in PNG]

Happily, I picked up a couple a few years back from CCC.

[BillSWPA]

Those are a very slick simple way to make a pouch out of kydex. The only down side to anything Kydex that flexes, is that it can eventually crack. Like holsters with wings, sweat guards, formed "clips" etc.

I've used the Comp-Tac single mag pouches for a long time, and a while back got into a deal for four or five of them in a package deal with a Glock I wanted. Adjustable for retention, and fairly simply made from one piece of kydex. They are not the best concealment wise, but they stay secure on a belt, despite being designed to slip/clip over the top. The bad news, is that if you don/doff them by snapping them over the belt, instead of threading them on the belt like a loop, you will eventually cause a stress crack across the top of the formed kydex loop/clip. I've busted quite a few that way over the years, so I try to thread them on if at all possible.

Originally, Comp-Tac used formed Kydex clips for their C-TAC holster, and they would get the same cracks at the top of the belt loops/clips. I broke quite a few of those too, over the years. They eventually went to an injection molded clip with a flexible plastic that wouldn't crack. Awesome upgrade when they went to those. I carried in a C-TAC for a very long time. The original holsters were better, IMHO, than their current offerings, other than molded clips. They were basically hand made, and very smooth, while also being well fitted to the guns. Some of the changes they made when updating production to CNC'd holster forms etc, resulted in holsters that were more pointy and pokey in places than their old ones.

Since I've started carrying AIWB, I've been using a JM Custom Kydex mag pouch ( the long adjustable one) and been pretty happy with it. I keep meaning to try one of his standard AIWB pouches, but have not placed an order recently.

Every Kydex holster flexes every time the gun is drawn or inserted. The key is keeping the flexing within the elastic deformation range of the material. We have people here who have used the CCC magazine pouches for several years without a problem.

[vcdgrips]

I have two that are my range pouches that are being reinforced with strapping tape to extend their life. I have two others that are in the EDC rotation and 2 that gave up the ghost though they could have a second life “velcroed” into something.

It would be wonderful if somebody picked up the design and ran with it. Nothing is smaller on the belt line. Only the OEM Glock Mag Pouch and perhaps the Safariland 71 (closed belt loop Gen 1) are close in terms of the intersection of quality/performance/value.

I concur that as it is kydex, in more than a day and less than 20 years, they are going to crack. It is what kydex does. Cost of doing business. Next. It is why I often buy a spare or spares of something on the front end.

In the absence of these being available, I have just started vetting a purported 3d printed mag pouch that I sourced from eBay. Preliminary findings were good so I have a second on the way to see how consistently they are made and how they will interact side by side on the belt line.

[Irelander]

I wonder if a ranger band around the CCC pouch would extend its life and keep it snug over time.

[EVP]

I like the form factor of the BMCs, I enjoyed them when I had them but I broke a couple of them.

For me at this point I like having a mag pouch that has a soft loop or clip. I have yet to break one of my JM or Darkstar gear pouches.

[ViniVidivici]

I don't want my Kydex flexing, that leads to breaking.

BFG Ten Speed mag pouches are the best, in my view. I do often use Blade Tech singles though.

[Up1911Fan]

I remember using BMC's like 10 years ago. Never replaced them when they cracked. I'm currently using the Tenicor Fero2 when I carry a reload and have been pleased with them.

[backtrail540]

https://cpwsa.com/pistol-accessories/240-ready-tactical-solid-loop-mag-pouches.html

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Maybe a custom maker like Dale Fricke would be interested. I was content with the fixed loop owb pouches from Tony Mayer before they were discontinued in favor of the clip versions. The clip versions are just ok. Better than most but the fixed loop variant was perfect

Late night poor lighting and quality comparison - closed loop jmck in gray left, ccc bmc in center, kytex right

https://i.postimg.cc/gkbWFv9Z/IMG-20230311-221337.jpg (https://postimg.cc/G9KNvTmL)

[BobM]

https://cpwsa.com/pistol-accessories/240-ready-tactical-solid-loop-mag-pouches.html

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Maybe a custom maker like Dale Fricke would be interested. I was content with the fixed loop owb pouches from Tony Mayer before they were discontinued in favor of the clip versions. The clip versions are just ok. Better than most but the fixed loop variant was perfect

Late night poor lighting and quality comparison - closed loop jmck in gray left, ccc bmc in center, kytex right

https://i.postimg.cc/gkbWFv9Z/IMG-20230311-221337.jpg (https://postimg.cc/G9KNvTmL)

I have some of the fixed loop pouches and would like some more if they come back. I had emailed JMCK some time ago and was told they were being redesigned if I recall correctly. I’m sure they’ve been pretty busy with other stuff.

[Dark Star Gear]

Every Kydex holster flexes every time the gun is drawn or inserted. The key is keeping the flexing within the elastic deformation range of the material. We have people here who have used the CCC magazine pouches for several years without a problem.

Fatigue is a bitch in plastics though. Most of the failures we've seen in ours and others are all due to use, not abuse, and almost all within the elastic range. Occasionally someone who wears their belt too damned tight will have issues, but most of the time the failures are from normal, easy use.

[littlejerry]

I don't want my Kydex flexing, that leads to breaking.

BFG Ten Speed mag pouches are the best, in my view. I do often use Blade Tech singles though.

BFG 10 speeds with a non Velcro loop would be great

[1911Nut]

I have more Kytex mag pouches than I can count. For single and double stack mags. I have about 5 or 6 for CZ75 18-round magazines, and they are among my oldest pouches and have been used hard, and a lot. One of them is just beginning to show a little fatigue (the "clip" part of the ouch has lost a bit of it's tension). But I have yet to ever have one come off, or even part way off in use, including rapid mag changes in shooting competition and training courses. So the pouch I mentioned looks like it is going to have to be replaced before very long. I have had it for about 7 years. It cost $18 when I purchased it. Money well spent, in my opinion. They are great products and I just recently ordered two single pouches for 1911 magazines which I will begin using this week.

[Chuck Whitlock]

I have more Kytex mag pouches than I can count. For single and double stack mags. I have about 5 or 6 for CZ75 18-round magazines, and they are among my oldest pouches and have been used hard, and a lot. One of them is just beginning to show a little fatigue (the "clip" part of the ouch has lost a bit of it's tension). But I have yet to ever have one come off, or even part way off in use, including rapid mag changes in shooting competition and training courses. So the pouch I mentioned looks like it is going to have to be replaced before very long. I have had it for about 7 years. It cost $18 when I purchased it. Money well spent, in my opinion. They are great products and I just recently ordered two single pouches for 1911 magazines which I will begin using this week.

I liked the ones I had, but I broke a Glock 19 mag pouch and a Surefire 6P light pouch (on separate occasions) by settling into a patio chair and having the bottom of the pouch catch on the armrest on the way down. The design of the BMC belt loop should minimize this.

It's a shame that CCC went out of business. I have a couple of his pouches and holsters. I wonder if anyone who knew him has (or would) contact him about licensing his designs. I would certainly buy a few of these pouches.

[Tony Mayer]

We are coming out (back out actually) with a new version 2 mag pouch that has a fixed loop made from tegris material that is very minimal, has adjustable retention and will be adjustable for different belt thicknesses!

[JCN]

Kytex pouches are almost identical in form and function, with the exception of being a quick detach clip instead of a belt loop.

+1 on Kytex

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[BillSWPA]

We are coming out (back out actually) with a new version 2 mag pouch that has a fixed loop made from tegris material that is very minimal, has adjustable retention and will be adjustable for different belt thicknesses!

Excellent news! That looks like a well-designed pouch.

[Chuck Whitlock]

We are coming out (back out actually) with a new version 2 mag pouch that has a fixed loop made from tegris material that is very minimal, has adjustable retention and will be adjustable for different belt thicknesses!

This is great news, Tony!! I love the reversed V2s that you made me. These look even better.

[Tony Mayer]

Excellent news! That looks like a well-designed pouch.

I've been wearing one for the last 6 months or so and really like it. With the minimal and adjustable belt loop channel, it stays put on the belt and stays really tight to the body!

[Tony Mayer]

This is great news, Tony!! I love the reversed V2s that you made me. These look even better.

Yes, way better. The downside to the old version 2's and why I discontinued them was the belt loop channel would always crack, plus they were labor intensive to make. This pouch will be very bomb proof, simple and effective!

[BillSWPA]

I've been wearing one for the last 6 months or so and really like it. With the minimal and adjustable belt loop channel, it stays put on the belt and stays really tight to the body!

I am curious about how the adjustment works for the belt channel, particularly since the 1 1/4” wide double thickness leather belts I prefer seem to be a less common choice.

[Tony Mayer]

I am curious about how the adjustment works for the belt channel, particularly since the 1 1/4” wide double thickness leather belts I prefer seem to be a less common choice.
They are shipped with 1/16" nylon washers/spacers to add between the loop and the kydex shell. As pictured has a built in 1/8" thick channel, plus one 1/16" thin rubber washer which fits on my wilderness 5 stitch belt tight enough to hardly move forward or rearward. All you need to do is remove the screws, add the nylon spacers to your desired thickness, re attach the loop with the screws and you're set!

[BillSWPA]

They are shipped with 1/16" nylon washers/spacers to add between the loop and the kydex shell. As pictured has a built in 1/8" thick channel, plus one 1/16" thin rubber washer which fits on my wilderness 5 stitch belt tight enough to hardly move forward or rearward. All you need to do is remove the screws, add the nylon spacers to your desired thickness, re attach the loop with the screws and you're set!

That is a good feature. The rearmost of the two CCC pouches I wore would slide around on my belt.

[41magfan]

They are shipped with 1/16" nylon washers/spacers to add between the loop and the kydex shell. As pictured has a built in 1/8" thick channel, plus one 1/16" thin rubber washer which fits on my wilderness 5 stitch belt tight enough to hardly move forward or rearward. All you need to do is remove the screws, add the nylon spacers to your desired thickness, re attach the loop with the screws and you're set!

When will these be showing up on the website?

[BobM]

We are coming out (back out actually) with a new version 2 mag pouch that has a fixed loop made from tegris material that is very minimal, has adjustable retention and will be adjustable for different belt thicknesses!

Very interesting! Looking forward to getting a few of these.

[Tony Mayer]

When will these be showing up on the website?

Within 2 weeks. Also, they are only going to be available for a 1 1/2" belt.

[BillSWPA]

Within 2 weeks. Also, they are only going to be available for a 1 1/2" belt.

While I would prefer exact fit on my 1 1/4 inch belt, 1 1/2 is not a deal breaker and would still work well as long as the loop is sufficiently rigid to prevent flexing outward. Exact fit to a belt width is more critical with holsters than with magazine or light pouches.

[Stone]

+1 On the Kytex mag holder. Ready tactical also makes a similar low pro design. Both are rock solid in all temp extremes. Been using both for well over a decade, beat the snot out of them from daily carry to long days out in the woods and they keep coming back for more. These are the original two i bought so as far as holding up to abuse, yeah, they can take it. SKD has the Ready Tactial pouches.,

[Hambo]

only going to be available for a 1 1/2" belt.

:(

[WDR]

We are coming out (back out actually) with a new version 2 mag pouch that has a fixed loop made from tegris material that is very minimal, has adjustable retention and will be adjustable for different belt thicknesses!

I may have to try one of these when I order another holster. That looks pretty slick.

[JTQ]

PJ Holster offers a one piece kydex pouch https://pjholster.com/products/pistol-mags

[JTQ]

... Ready tactical also makes a similar low pro design. ... SKD has the Ready Tactial pouches.,
https://skdtac.com/ready-tactical-pistol-mag-pouch/

[LHS]

I'm very leery of any kind of integral kydex belt loop/clip. I've broken far too many of them over the years.

The old Safariland 71 pouches are great universal pouches. I use them a lot for oddball stuff like, say, Beretta 81 or 1935 mags. I also like how little real estate they take up on the belt and in cases, so when I fly I tend to bring a pair of 71s to hold loaded mags in the gun case. What I end up using for everyday is the Raven Copia. It's super-adjustable for just about any double-stack service pistol magazine, and the wider footprint spreads out the surface area and makes the mag disappear under a shirt. Since I generally only carry one spare mag and nothing else on that side of the belt, the wider footprint isn't really a drawback for me. I have a

Tony, that new pouch looks pretty awesome too. Once I get ahold of one of the new Cheetahs, I'm going to be ordering a holster for it from you anyway, so I'll have to buy one of those pouches as well to play around with.

[Tony Mayer]

Guys, these are live for Glock 19/17/22/23 , my mold guy is backed up so other mag options will be coming but slower.


https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/p/Q-Single-Pistol-Mag-Pouch-V2.html

[JonInWA]

Tony, kudos to you. I'll likely try when you have more magazine options (HK, Beretta, etc.). I understand that statistically Glock is you biggest target demographic, but in a threaded belt holster, I've found it very hard to beat the basic Glock polymer $10 pouch; loops are remove posts to fit to belt size, and after at least 20+ years on 2 (one G17/19/26 magazine size, the other for larger G21/20/30 size) I have yet to break one, and the flexible polymer with an internal stud that latches into the magazine catch provides good retention. The polymer belt loop wings also wrap around your torso, so they have excellent concealability.

If you've got a Glock, these are pretty much an unbeatable value in my opinion. Harder kydex material might provide a slightly faster magazine draw, but not much. And, if sound is an issue, these are amongst the quietest.

https://store.glock.us/magazine-pouch

Best, Jon