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Slavex
10-10-2012, 02:10 AM
Couldn't find this on here anywhere, thought it would be interesting to some.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_BxQSxnD1g

BaiHu
10-10-2012, 09:39 AM
I don't see a link...am I missing something ;)

deejai
10-10-2012, 10:31 AM
I'm pretty sure it's this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_BxQSxnD1g

Lots of interesting vintage videos on the publicresourceorg channel on Youtube.

Chuck Haggard
10-10-2012, 11:22 AM
I dig that they wanted the officer to put rounds in the "kill zone".

BaiHu
10-10-2012, 11:38 AM
I'm pretty sure it's this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_BxQSxnD1g

Lots of interesting vintage videos on the publicresourceorg channel on Youtube.

Oh yeah, I think this was posted a ways back-I've seen this before. Quite vintage.

Mitchell, Esq.
10-10-2012, 12:38 PM
Fundamentals of Double Action Revolver Shooting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViX9D9TJ8k8&feature=relmfu

Old School...

Trigger Control discussion at 06:15

Mitchell, Esq.
10-10-2012, 12:55 PM
I'd like to hear from anyone who went through classes like those in the video on how they would rate them against training circa 2012.

Al T.
10-10-2012, 02:19 PM
The vehicle ambush one is pretty good, especially looking at the old cars. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXcZR6hy-2E&feature=relmfu

Mitchell, I went through a revolver course in about 1978 or 79 that was hosted by a local (East Tennessee State University) Criminal Justice department. Other than the obvious issue of round guns vrs. square ones, we were way, way behind today's times. The two handed (Weaver) grip was slowly getting around and both the "wrist grab" and the "tea cup" grips were used. The Jelly Bryce hip shoot was indeed the one handed grip of the day.

Slavex
10-10-2012, 04:14 PM
I love how the liquor store guy doesn't actually describe the suspect much but the officer knows the jacket color, that he's white etc. Then as he starts to move away, the owner tries to talk more and he ignores him lol.

Chuck Haggard
10-10-2012, 04:41 PM
I love how the liquor store guy doesn't actually describe the suspect much but the officer knows the jacket color, that he's white etc. Then as he starts to move away, the owner tries to talk more and he ignores him lol.

Acting!

http://vimeo.com/15476780

jkm
10-10-2012, 05:19 PM
In 1983, my training included the richochet techniques, but as I recall we only shot under cars with 00, and we just watched training films as far as bullets skidding along walls. We also used the point shoulder / crouch stance, but we used two hands instead of just one. I just qualified a retiree two weeks ago and at the command he went into the FBI crouch stance. So some guys still use it. We trained alot in non-sighted shooting at close distance. Barricade shooting was two handed. Our shotgun training was always aimed shooting. Our shotguns had rifle sights on them.
Not sure how to compare that training with today's, because I don't feel that they're 'different', I feel more that today's training came from the older stuff, which laid the foundation for more modern techniques to grow from.
Use cover when you can, know that bouncing bullets can hit you, etc, is still good information.
Certainly, today's training seems to have more movement, different weapons, and may be a little more high speed- low drag, but as far as 'basic training' (and the film is 'basic' not 'advanced training') a Cadet might receive these days, I think some of the old stuff is still relevant.....jkm

Simon
10-11-2012, 10:38 PM
I'd like to hear from anyone who went through classes like those in the video on how they would rate them against training circa 2012.

I went through firearms training with a state agency several times during the late 1960s. As I became the most accurate shooter in the agency I was made an instructor. I had no training for this and was totally self taught. We used the NRA PPC course for our training and had some NRA manuals to use. We taught the waist high, strong hand from the draw at seven yards. I was hired by a federal agency in 1971 and fire arms training was half bullseye strong hand only, using NRA bullseye rules, the other half was PPC using NRA rules. This type training continued well into the 1990s with only a slight change in target type, so that we would not be shooting black people. We didn,t see anything different until IPSC type shooting was introduced in the late '70s and very few people were doing it. Weaver and Cooper were getting to be known , but none of their ideas were used by my agency.

I don,t think you can rate that type of training compared to training in 2012. Modern training is so much more advanced that the only thing that can compare is basic fundamentals, I.E. grip, sight alinement and trigger control.

Tamara
10-19-2012, 06:22 PM
Couldn't find this on here anywhere, thought it would be interesting to some.

I feel a little worried now that I won't be able to be tactical because I can't grow a pornstache.

Oh, and... GET YOUR %$^& FINGER OFF THE %$@$ TRIGGER!

Nothing like an old training film to remind us that safety is a fairly recent invention. These guys probably didn't wear helmets while eating lead paint chips with ranch dip between takes. :eek:

Joe in PNG
10-19-2012, 08:13 PM
Nothing like an old training film to remind us that safety is a fairly recent invention. These guys probably didn't wear helmets while eating lead paint chips with ranch dip between takes. :eek:

Helmets just make it that much harder to drink your 3 martini lunch.