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Lost River poster this
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How concealable are these? Compared to a N frame pancake? Baranti makes a Hank Sloan similar to that. They also make a ccr with what seems a wider belt loop.
I'm kinda looking for something that conceals as well as a pancake but sits lower. I'd like a single holster for EDC and packing a 2yo in a ruck.
Flamingo
12-13-2022, 07:59 PM
Mine is for a GP100 is not a concealment rig. I love it, but it is a BBQ or out in the field type holster.
Colt191145lover
12-13-2022, 08:00 PM
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Mine is for a GP100 is not a concealment rig. I love it, but it is a BBQ or out in the field type holster.
I mean, how much does it stick out
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Lost River
12-13-2022, 08:35 PM
I have worn and concealed a 200 AW quite a bit over the years. Often with a light shirt. That said, it may not be as concealable as a pancake design it certainly works. For a guy who is more stout like you are, I think it would actually not be too hard.
Another option you may want to look at, and may seem outside the norm, but you may want to consider a Summer Special. Recently I had one made for a 4" N Frame, and I can tell you that after just a couple of test runs, getting a feel for it, in terms of how it distributes the weight, and how comfortable it is, that it is going to see a lot of use in the near future.
https://i.imgur.com/bcu2c9Hl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BcTXHzEl.jpg
One of the things I have always liked about the IWB rigs, and Summer Special in particular, when it comes to carrying a 5" Government Model, which is a heavy gun, compared to a lot of others, is that when worn with a good belt, the Summer Special really offset the weight and made carrying a heavy gun far more comfortable.
https://i.imgur.com/JlR9TNdl.jpg?1
So I figured I would try it with an N Frame. I was a bit concerned with the cylinder width, but it ends up, that is a non-issue. It is very comfortable and distributes the weight quite nicely for all day carry. I am glad I took a pic of it as it looks new, as I know by this time next year it likely won't look nearly as nice. :cool:
Anyways, the 200AW is never a wrong answer for an OWB rig, especially for an N Frame. But for you and all you do and considering your lifestyle and the fact you place concealment as a pretty high priority, you may want to look at a Summer Special.
The one shown is a straight drop, which is not standard. The standard is a forward cant of some degree percentage that I do not know. I am sure its on their website or you could call and ask. I prefer straight drop holsters for a variety of reasons.
Hope this helps.
Flamingo
12-13-2022, 08:48 PM
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I think it would work with a heavier cover shirt, but I think the IWB would be a better choice. When I ordered mine I could not get any modifications to it. I specifically asked for a straight drop and they would not do that for me. I am no Lost River though...
I think you are going to have a hard time finding anything that will let you carry IWB concealed while carrying a little one in a backpack carrier.
Lost River
12-13-2022, 08:54 PM
Flamingo,
I see you currently suffer from the same disease that I do..
Flamingo
12-13-2022, 08:56 PM
Flamingo,
I see you currently suffer from the same disease that I do..
You don't look fat like me! I almost didn't post the picture because the roll over my belt. :)
mmc45414
12-13-2022, 09:02 PM
Have had a 200 AW, but sure like the two PMKs (https://www.miltsparks.com/outside-the-waistband/pmk/) I have.
Lost River
12-13-2022, 09:09 PM
You don't look fat like me! I almost didn't post the picture because the roll over my belt. :)
That is just bulking up for winter!
I seemed to have slowed down on my hiking up and down the mountains in the last 2-3 years and my butt fell off somewhere!
Once life returns to something that is actually livable I need to get back to being outdoors a whole lot more and putting in some miles and elevation.
I picked up a Summer Special for my 4" model 13. I've got to wear it around the house more as I just haven't been able to get comfortable with it. Not that it's not physically comfortable to wear, I'm just not used to it.
Milt Sparks VM2 and a PMK work very well for my Model 69.
Tamara
12-14-2022, 09:45 AM
For 3" and 4" N-frames, I have PWL leather pancakes and a very old Comp-Tac Gurkha IWB.
For 3" K-frames I use a Bianchi 3S .
I have worn and concealed a 200 AW quite a bit over the years. Often with a light shirt. That said, it may not be as concealable as a pancake design it certainly works. For a guy who is more stout like you are, I think it would actually not be too hard.
Another option you may want to look at, and may seem outside the norm, but you may want to consider a Summer Special. Recently I had one made for a 4" N Frame, and I can tell you that after just a couple of test runs, getting a feel for it, in terms of how it distributes the weight, and how comfortable it is, that it is going to see a lot of use in the near future.
https://i.imgur.com/bcu2c9Hl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BcTXHzEl.jpg
One of the things I have always liked about the IWB rigs, and Summer Special in particular, when it comes to carrying a 5" Government Model, which is a heavy gun, compared to a lot of others, is that when worn with a good belt, the Summer Special really offset the weight and made carrying a heavy gun far more comfortable.
https://i.imgur.com/JlR9TNdl.jpg?1
So I figured I would try it with an N Frame. I was a bit concerned with the cylinder width, but it ends up, that is a non-issue. It is very comfortable and distributes the weight quite nicely for all day carry. I am glad I took a pic of it as it looks new, as I know by this time next year it likely won't look nearly as nice. :cool:
Anyways, the 200AW is never a wrong answer for an OWB rig, especially for an N Frame. But for you and all you do and considering your lifestyle and the fact you place concealment as a pretty high priority, you may want to look at a Summer Special.
The one shown is a straight drop, which is not standard. The standard is a forward cant of some degree percentage that I do not know. I am sure its on their website or you could call and ask. I prefer straight drop holsters for a variety of reasons.
Hope this helps.
Thanks, I'm not sure I could do the n frame iwb. I can just manage a 1911. Berettas and Glocks cause my sciatic nerve to act up if I carry them iwb behind the hip.
Crazy Dane
12-14-2022, 10:27 AM
HF3 Revolver Holster - Tucker Gunleather Store (https://tuckergunleather.com/hf3-revolver-holster/)
I had this one for a hot minute, it walked off at a public gun range while I was hanging targets,
It was for a 3 inch GP100 and did sit a touch lower than the pancakes that I have. The butt didn't tuck quite as tight as a pancake. The standard flannel over shirt covered it well but I would need a Tall in a pullover.
I'm a bit gun shy on ordering new leather, The Tucker wasn't quite what I was looking for and it may have eventually proved its worth but I only had it a couple of weeks with it. I have a few others in the box-o-holsters that only work in a specific roll. I'm glad they are there when I need them but...
I have a JMCK George for the same gun, it's one of those that don't get much use but fills a roll when needed. It should have been a wing-claw to help tuck the full-size grip and it only works with certain pants with high waists. It's a big package to stick down the front of cowboy cut Wranglers.
One day I will commit to ordering something from Sparks or Barranti
jtcarm
12-14-2022, 11:07 AM
When searching for a holster to carry a 4” N-frame on my trouser belt, I was advised by holster-make Red Nichols to select one that positioned the cylinder on the belt.
I went with Lobo’s rendition of the Avenger:
https://lobogunleather.com/owb-outside-the-waist-band/enhanced-avenger/
I haven’t used it much and not truly for concealment. It would conceal under a jacket, but that’s not much of a thing here in Texas.
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12-14-2022, 11:32 AM
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RevolverRob
12-14-2022, 12:15 PM
When searching for a holster to carry a 4” N-frame on my trouser belt, I was advised by holster-make Red Nichols to select one that positioned the cylinder on the belt.
I went with Lobo’s rendition of the Avenger:
https://lobogunleather.com/owb-outside-the-waist-band/enhanced-avenger/
I haven’t used it much and not truly for concealment. It would conceal under a jacket, but that’s not much of a thing here in Texas.
This surprises me, because Red recognized the bulk of revolver cylinders and began cutting his Fighting Shucks to have a relieved cylinder opening (no leather covering the cylinder on the body side) and positioned the cylinder face at the top of the belt.
Years ago there was a 'CABO' (Carry-A-Big-One) IWB holster, which positioned 4" and longer revolvers with the cylinder above the belt line. By all accounts it carried very well (I never had a chance to buy one).
The CCR, Sloan, and 200AW are definitely going to be on the farther out from the belt line way of life.
A pancake will be your best concealing holster if you're not wanting to go IWB.
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The CCR is is actually what started this. The website states
"Barranti Leather is proud to introduce our new line of concealed carry holsters. These holsters were designed to address issues that can make traditionally styled holsters less than ideal for concealed carry.
What issues? Traditionally styled holsters tend to have a narrow belt loop which concentrates the weight of the over a small area of the belt. This tends to drag the belt down, which then makes the wearer constantly tug at their belt. Additionally, the narrow belt loop doesn’t do enough to keep the gun pulled in snug to the body"
jtcarm
12-14-2022, 01:40 PM
This surprises me, because Red recognized the bulk of revolver cylinders and began cutting his Fighting Shucks to have a relieved cylinder opening (no leather covering the cylinder on the body side) and positioned the cylinder face at the top of the belt.
Years ago there was a 'CABO' (Carry-A-Big-One) IWB holster, which positioned 4" and longer revolvers with the cylinder above the belt line. By all accounts it carried very well (I never had a chance to buy one).
The CCR, Sloan, and 200AW are definitely going to be on the farther out from the belt line way of life.
A pancake will be your best concealing holster if you're not wanting to go IWB.
IDK, his specific words were “you want that heavy cylinder on your belt “ (referring to an N-frame).
Now I wasn’t looking so much for concealment as for field and possible IDPA use, so, AMMV.
I can see why you wouldn’t an N-frame cylinder in-line with your belt when carrying concealed.
Crazy Dane
12-14-2022, 02:24 PM
The CCR is is actually what started this. The website states
"Barranti Leather is proud to introduce our new line of concealed carry holsters. These holsters were designed to address issues that can make traditionally styled holsters less than ideal for concealed carry.
What issues? Traditionally styled holsters tend to have a narrow belt loop which concentrates the weight of the over a small area of the belt. This tends to drag the belt down, which then makes the wearer constantly tug at their belt. Additionally, the narrow belt loop doesn’t do enough to keep the gun pulled in snug to the body"
I keep coming back to this one as well. I keep telling myself to order from the direct line instead of building a custom with the fancy tooling and lining. If it works, then I can go all fancy. The speed loader pouch from there is different and will be part of my order.
Privateer Leather has several models of pancakes that has different ride heights you may want to look at, too.
Tamara
12-14-2022, 03:17 PM
I found this interesting rig in my carton full of revolver holsters…
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It’s a convertible from DeSantis for K/L-frames with a loop for vertical IWB carry and a jacket slot on the other side for OWB. Shame the holster mouth isn’t reinforced better. Long discontinued, I reckon.
Moylan
12-14-2022, 03:51 PM
I have a couple of usable kydex aiwb holsters. My problem is that carrying at say 1:00 doesn't allow me much negative cant, which means that when I go to grip the gun I really have to crank my elbow and wrist a lot to try to get as high a grip on the revolver as I'd like. I find I do not do a good job getting a solid grip and either have to adjust or just live with a poor grip. Am I the only one with this problem? I don't think I have any range of motion problems with my arms/wrists, nor do I think I grip a revolver freakishly high. I'd try a crossdraw, which I think would make the grip angle much better for me, but it kind of seems like they don't tend to conceal super well.
MolonLabe416
12-14-2022, 04:38 PM
I have that Sparks holster right down to the carving. I do not think it will serve well for concealing.
MolonLabe416
12-14-2022, 04:41 PM
My first custom holster was a SS from Sparks in the late 70’s. I still use it today.
jtcarm
12-14-2022, 05:32 PM
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I like the looks of those belt loops. Lots of area to spread the load.
Tamara
12-14-2022, 06:02 PM
I have a couple of usable kydex aiwb holsters. My problem is that carrying at say 1:00 doesn't allow me much negative cant, which means that when I go to grip the gun I really have to crank my elbow and wrist a lot to try to get as high a grip on the revolver as I'd like. I find I do not do a good job getting a solid grip and either have to adjust or just live with a poor grip. Am I the only one with this problem? I don't think I have any range of motion problems with my arms/wrists, nor do I think I grip a revolver freakishly high. I'd try a crossdraw, which I think would make the grip angle much better for me, but it kind of seems like they don't tend to conceal super well.
With the 5-position adjustable cant on my Bianchi 3S for three-inch K-frames, I should do some research into this.
It certainly seems a vertical AIWB would be really suboptimal for a wheelgun.
S Jenks
12-14-2022, 06:04 PM
I have a Pillager IWB for 3” Python from Privateer that should ship any day now. Pictures to be posted once it arrives.
https://www.privateerleather.com/pillager
Rex G
12-17-2022, 03:11 PM
I would rate the Milt Sparks 200AW as being concealable under a coat. Perhaps a sport coat, if full-cut, and made of something like Harris Tweed. Having defined deltoids and lats would be helpful. I could make it work, at 6’, 165#, ~32” waist, with my Harris Tweed sort coat, if nobody looked too closely. Same with a photo/safari vest, more or less. (That was 80s/90s/00s; less so in middle age.) I think of the 200AW as more of a field holster, when one wants the weapon to be a bit behind the hip, rather than at 0300.
The Milt Sparks PMK conceals noticeably much better.
The Barranti CCR conceals decently well, but it angles a hammer spur to really rasp-away at one’s arms and cover garments, so, take that into account.
Just my opinions.
JAH 3rd
12-17-2022, 04:23 PM
My deltoids and lats have been MIA for decades. I have given up on ever finding them. I pocket holster an Uncle Mike's #3 size for my S&W 340PD. Works without flaw so far.
I would rate the Milt Sparks 200AW as being concealable under a coat. Perhaps a sport coat, if full-cut, and made of something like Harris Tweed. Having defined deltoids and lats would be helpful. I could make it work, at 6’, 165#, ~32” waist, with my Harris Tweed sort coat, if nobody looked too closely. Same with a photo/safari vest, more or less. (That was 80s/90s/00s; less so in middle age.) I think of the 200AW as more of a field holster, when one wants the weapon to be a bit behind the hip, rather than at 0300.
The Milt Sparks PMK conceals noticeably much better.
The Barranti CCR conceals decently well, but it angles a hammer spur to really rasp-away at one’s arms and cover garments, so, take that into account.
Just my opinions.
Thanks. I realize I'm looking for something with pretty specific parameters.
Something that conceals better than a threepersons but still allows a hiking backpack belt to be used.
I've tried Nelson styled holsters and they typically ride a little to high.
mmc45414
12-17-2022, 05:38 PM
Something that conceals better than a threepersons but still allows a hiking backpack belt to be used.
Do you expect the backpack belt to go below your belt, behind the holster?
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Do you expect the backpack belt to go below your belt, behind the holster?
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mmc45414
12-17-2022, 06:54 PM
Just wonder if the PMK might be what you seek:
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Wow, I really had to crop this in tight to keep my gut out of the picture... (gym starts Monday, I swear....):
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Just wonder if the PMK might be what you seek:
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Wow, I really had to crop this in tight to keep my gut out of the picture... (gym starts Monday, I swear....):
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Lol
Ive got a kramer vertical scabbard for my m65 and it sits just a little to high. It's not horrible. Do you the pmk sit lower? It's hard to tell in pics
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Willard
12-17-2022, 07:41 PM
Is there something the Kramer Belt Scabbard or Vertical Scabbard isn't doing for you? I believe you use one or both already. Just curious. I'm content enough with mine that this is about all I use for OWB while I have a box of holsters for other carry.
mmc45414
12-17-2022, 07:53 PM
Lol
Ive got a kramer vertical scabbard for my m65 and it sits just a little to high. It's not horrible. Do you the pmk sit lower? It's hard to tell in pics
Looks like the Kramer has the back of the trigger guard peeking up.
Willard
12-17-2022, 08:34 PM
Thanks. Missed that post.
mmc45414
12-18-2022, 07:06 AM
Do you the pmk sit lower? It's hard to tell in pics
Looks like the cylinder might be a reference point, with the PMK it seems to be at or below the belt line. I do not think it is too high. But it is difficult to tell, if you want some other shots lemme know.
ETA: The little wire is supposed to aid retention and is supposed to be behind the cylinder, for a reference point:
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Could dig it out again later, but heading to match this morning.
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Rex G
12-18-2022, 09:01 AM
Thanks. I realize I'm looking for something with pretty specific parameters.
Something that conceals better than a threepersons but still allows a hiking backpack belt to be used.
I've tried Nelson styled holsters and they typically ride a little to high.
I see the PMK as being a somewhat lower version of a Nelson Professional/BN55 type. (BN55 is Milt Sparks’ version of the Nelson Professional.) This has me wondering if I might happen to still have a BN55 around here, anywhere, though if so, it would be for an auto, not a revolver, so, perhaps not enabling an apples-to-apples comparison.
A Barranti CCR is definitely a high-ride holster.
I think that I do still have a Kramer Vertical Scabbard, for a revolver. I will try to set-up a comparison shot, with a PMK, reasonably soon.
Which revolver size?
I see the PMK as being a somewhat lower version of a Nelson Professional/BN55 type. (BN55 is Milt Sparks’ version of the Nelson Professional.) This has me wondering if I might happen to still have a BN55 around here, anywhere, though if so, it would be for an auto, not a revolver, so, perhaps not enabling an apples-to-apples comparison.
A Barranti CCR is definitely a high-ride holster.
I think that I do still have a Kramer Vertical Scabbard, for a revolver. I will try to set-up a comparison shot, with a PMK, reasonably soon.
Which revolver size?
Yeah, thanks. The pmk does look like it sits a little lower.
N frame
Dusty Stone
12-19-2022, 11:43 AM
I CC my S&W mod 66-8 in a Safariland N0 28 pancake holster. These are vintage holsters that I have used for decades, and have served me well.
The black one is swede lined, but the other that carries the RIA M200 4" is not. Here I am wearing the black one with a S&W mod 69
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willie
12-22-2022, 09:52 PM
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I think it would work with a heavier cover shirt, but I think the IWB would be a better choice. When I ordered mine I could not get any modifications to it. I specifically asked for a straight drop and they would not do that for me. I am no Lost River though...
I think you are going to have a hard time finding anything that will let you carry IWB concealed while carrying a little one in a backpack carrier.
Those bullet molds sure do look familiar.😀
Flashman
12-23-2022, 04:25 PM
I have numerous leather revolver holsters from Milt Sparks, El Paso and Galco, Leahy, but would like close fit, OWB holster in Kydex for my 4 inch GP100 and New Vaquero 45 LC 4 5/8". Leather is nice for many reasons but Kydex can be thinner, more secure, and easier to clean and maintain in the rain and snow. Got forbid that someone would make one for SAA revolvers but that is what I would like despite the hate.
I have numerous leather revolver holsters from Milt Sparks, El Paso and Galco, Leahy, but would like close fit, OWB holster in Kydex for my 4 inch GP100 and New Vaquero 45 LC 4 5/8". Leather is nice for many reasons but Kydex can be thinner, more secure, and easier to clean and maintain in the rain and snow. Got forbid that someone would make one for SAA revolvers but that is what I would like despite the hate.
I think if you looked for horsehide holsters you'd be surprised how thin they are and they're denser so they don't absorb moisture like cowhide.
It just might be easier for you to find
Rick R
12-24-2022, 12:42 PM
I have numerous leather revolver holsters from Milt Sparks, El Paso and Galco, Leahy, but would like close fit, OWB holster in Kydex for my 4 inch GP100 and New Vaquero 45 LC 4 5/8". Leather is nice for many reasons but Kydex can be thinner, more secure, and easier to clean and maintain in the rain and snow. Got forbid that someone would make one for SAA revolvers but that is what I would like despite the hate.
I have a OWB1 from JM Custom that fits my 3” GP-100 and rides well concealed under a loose button up or sweatshirt. I like it well enough that I ordered a second for my 4” GP. It’s not listed as an option but they’ll make one if you specify it under comments.
Good luck finding one for a SAA,
Flamingo
12-24-2022, 12:52 PM
I have a OWB1 from JM Custom that fits my 3” GP-100 and rides well concealed under a loose button up or sweatshirt. I like it well enough that I ordered a second for my 4” GP. It’s not listed as an option but they’ll make one if you specify it under comments.
Do you mind posting a picture of the holster? I have a JMCK appendix holster but it may be nice to have an OWB holster for it as well.
Rick R
12-24-2022, 12:58 PM
Do you mind posting a picture of the holster? I have a JMCK appendix holster but it may be nice to have an OWB holster for it as well.
I knew you were going to ask because I’m traveling this holiday and that holster is 350 miles away in a drawer.
It’s basically this holster with slightly different belt loops.
https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/p/OWB.html
I can post pix next week.
Rick R
12-27-2022, 11:21 PM
Do you mind posting a picture of the holster? I have a JMCK appendix holster but it may be nice to have an OWB holster for it as well.
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Back today, I ran a belt thru the loops to give an idea how it rides.
JTMcC
12-30-2022, 01:10 PM
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Do I have this right? You want to on occasion cover the gun with the shirt that's under the kiddo carrier waist belt?
As you know you're looking for an unusual holster. High & tight is common, low and tight not so much. I've carried a 4" N-frame for several years now all day every day usually just under a t shirt but sometimes a button up shirt and the grips are what "make the tent stand out", I normally stick with big honkin full size grips so I have to have a holster that tucks them in close. I also need a higher holster to cover the bottom of it with a shirt. With all the links I have to N-frame holsters I haven't seen a low & tight type (yet).
If I got it correct (cover the gun with the shirt under the belt) that will make it quite a bit more difficult, It's a large gun even without that handicap of constricting the shirt just above the gun.
Lose the kiddo carrier waist belt and the world is yours but that might be too unstable.
As someone said, IWB SS type might be good with the 2 year old on board but maybe not so hot for every day use.
I don't think you'll find a holster that'll do both things you want to do but I hope you can. Low ride makes it difficult to cover a 4" N frame. Good luck.
Do I have this right? You want to on occasion cover the gun with the shirt that's under the kiddo carrier waist belt?
As you know you're looking for an unusual holster. High & tight is common, low and tight not so much. I've carried a 4" N-frame for several years now all day every day usually just under a t shirt but sometimes a button up shirt and the grips are what "make the tent stand out", I normally stick with big honkin full size grips so I have to have a holster that tucks them in close. I also need a higher holster to cover the bottom of it with a shirt. With all the links I have to N-frame holsters I haven't seen a low & tight type (yet).
If I got it correct (cover the gun with the shirt under the belt) that will make it quite a bit more difficult, It's a large gun even without that handicap of constricting the shirt just above the gun.
Lose the kiddo carrier waist belt and the world is yours but that might be too unstable.
As someone said, IWB SS type might be good with the 2 year old on board but maybe not so hot for every day use.
I don't think you'll find a holster that'll do both things you want to do but I hope you can. Low ride makes it difficult to cover a 4" N frame. Good luck.
Low and kinda tight. Yeah I know, looking for a goldilocks. I did just order a CCR the other day. I guess I'll try it out. It looks like the cylinder is over the belt, whereas the Kramer holds the cylinder above the belt and I'm hoping the wider belt loops tuck the grips in just a tiny bit more than the threepersons.
I think I've only got another year of carrying her when we go on harder hikes anyways.
I also figure the CCR will be a better competition holster for next year.
kilo sierra
12-30-2022, 01:34 PM
Perhaps take a look at the Davis Gunleather 3820 Concealer.
In the early 90's I used this on Duty with a 4" S&W 66. Very solid and carried the cylinder against the belt, which translated into a quick and effortless presentation.
JTMcC
12-30-2022, 02:20 PM
Low and kinda tight. Yeah I know, looking for a goldilocks. I did just order a CCR the other day. I guess I'll try it out. It looks like the cylinder is over the belt, whereas the Kramer holds the cylinder above the belt and I'm hoping the wider belt loops tuck the grips in just a tiny bit more than the threepersons.
I think I've only got another year of carrying her when we go on harder hikes anyways.
I also figure the CCR will be a better competition holster for next year.
That's gonna be a very good holster even if it doesn't work with the carrier.
JTMcC
12-30-2022, 02:28 PM
You can get belt loop attachments for the Safariland 568 to raise or lower the gun quite a bit, the butt will be a bit out there but a baggy enough shirt will cover it.
JTMcC
12-30-2022, 02:46 PM
Maybe something with adjustable height would get you thru till the little one is hiking under their own power, then you could put the ride height where you need it then, these are available for N frame...
https://tuckergunleather.com/deep-carry-dc-3-belt-holster-owb/
Zeke38
12-30-2022, 03:21 PM
I have a Barranti CCR for a Wiley Clapp GP100. Doc uses a couple of advanced leather techniques to pull the butt of the gun into the body, far more than a Threepersons. The tightening screw is well worth the benefit. Pretty hard to beat this rig for what you are doing.
I'd take a pic and I will when I'm over this flu.
mmc45414
12-30-2022, 05:18 PM
It’s not listed as an option but they’ll make one if you specify it under comments.
Thanks for this... :cool:
Vista461
12-30-2022, 05:36 PM
I CC my S&W mod 66-8 in a Safariland N0 28 pancake holster. These are vintage holsters that I have used for decades, and have served me well.
The black one is swede lined, but the other that carries the RIA M200 4" is not. Here I am wearing the black one with a S&W mod 69
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I got a vintage Safariland (either 3 or 560, both number are on the back) with my 64-3.
I’m assuming it’s 80’s vintage like the gun.
Something cool about vintage gear with a vintage handgun.
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Salamander
12-30-2022, 08:07 PM
My standard backcountry pack is a Gossamer Gear Mariposa 60, and I just tried it with a couple of OWB holsters and it won't work. That's mostly the pack, the belt pouches don't easily detach on this particular model and that forces one side of the belt to ride up too high with a holster. The places I hike, it would be a bad idea to knowingly set up that kind of an imbalance. Even if I replaced the belt, it would still be an open carry situation. Under a full size pack, cover garments tend to ride up. That doesn't matter in some places, in others it does.
I've been able to make OWB concealed work with a daypack, currently an old and long out of production Millet. That pack has only a very thin belt, but it's also barely big enough to carry water, snacks, and rain gear.
What I've settled on instead is a Hill People Gear Bag, it's comfortable carrying an N-frame all day on rugged terrain (there's a 625 Mountain Gun inside for the photo below) and also holds a speedloader or two, a couple of Clif bars, a map, a compass, a pocket knife, and maybe a couple of other smaller items within easy reach. It works with every pack I've tried (the one in the photo is the Gossamer Gear, worn over the kit bag), and nicely counterbalances some of the weight. If I drop the backpack to rest, the revolver is still there.
As you can probably tell, this one has some miles on it.
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Duces Tecum
12-30-2022, 08:57 PM
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Are those Herrett's stocks? I though they'd gone out of business with Steve's passing, but a quick search showed that they're still at work.
https://www.herrettstocks.com/
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Dusty Stone
12-31-2022, 03:11 AM
If I were a hiker, I'd wear a GunfightersINC Kenai Chest Holster or the Diamond D Guides choice, both are easy to access in a hurry if you need to.
I'll second the HPG Kit bag, as it so versatile for ANY PISTOL you have. Iv'e had mine for about 4 years, it's secure, and comfortable, and can be adapted to a HPG pack.
Bought the RECON, well, just because they didn't have any of the smooth faced ones at the time.
The only other concealable holster I have is a Brauer Bros. pancake for my N frames.
Sits super close to your body, BUT, would not be accessible while wearing a pack or kid carrier.
I run with a hpg fanny pack but i just really don't like stuff on my chest.
Flashman
12-31-2022, 01:07 PM
I have the Diamond D for a 629 MG which is an excellent holster however in today's environment I much prefer to not open carry even in the outback and use the HPG kit bag which is more versatile but not as user friendly.
Totem Polar
12-31-2022, 01:24 PM
I’m another HPG guy here. Currently, there is a 4” DAO M64 in it, as I wait to see how the weather looks for some fatbiking. I’ve had everything from a G42 to a Gov’t 1911 in that same bag over the years though.
So I think the CCR will work. The speed loader pouch not so much. I just think it takes up to much realastate on the belt. I'll have to try a few different pants/belt loops to test.
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I'm not sure I'll keep the speed loader pouch... I'd need to move a belt loop on all my pants.
S Jenks
01-14-2023, 12:37 AM
I have a Pillager IWB for 3” Python from Privateer that should ship any day now. Pictures to be posted once it arrives.
https://www.privateerleather.com/pillager
It’s in! The trim is cowhide embossed with a python skin pattern and dyed a deep blue.
Shown with a Privateer valet tray, thrown in for free by Wes as the holster came a week later than originally quoted. Excellent CS, excellent quality.
And of course I had to include my Privateer Cutthroat, russet brown with black shark skin trim.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230114/b0c7b7079ca3c0fcbeeb8197359dbb3f.jpg
Zeke38
01-17-2023, 02:21 PM
I have had the flu back up to operating speed now. Here are some pics of my Barranti CCR with my 3" WC/GP inside and upon my person. This rides a little lower than a pancake but it is rock stable and the butt of the firearm tucks in nicely. Easy on old shoulders to draw from! So here's the pics better late than never!
https://i.imgur.com/RBb4N50m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rSc0e9Vm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6KPibAbm.jpg
Add a little more perspective to the topic at hand.
I have had the flu back up to operating speed now. Here are some pics of my Barranti CCR with my 3" WC/GP inside and upon my person. This rides a little lower than a pancake but it is rock stable and the butt of the firearm tucks in nicely. Easy on old shoulders to draw from! So here's the pics better late than never!
https://i.imgur.com/RBb4N50m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rSc0e9Vm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6KPibAbm.jpg
Add a little more perspective to the topic at hand.
Thanks.
Agreed. I'm really happy with it. I've been hiking a lot and this holster sits low enough to be usable with a pack belt and is still easily concealed.
The leather does seem a little soft though. I hope it holds up.
Crazy Dane
01-20-2023, 11:16 PM
I just got a Bianchi X-15 shoulder holster in. I was looking for something to keep a gun above waterline for fishing the creeks and rivers around here and did not want an open chest rig and a kit bag gets in the way fishing. I went back a watch the video Mas did on shoulder rigs and figured the clamshell spring rig would work the best. it will conceal well under a fishing vest or a sleeveless BDU top. Being a "one size fits many " type, I do not have a lack of choice in what to carry. From the SP101 to my GP100 .44 will fit. I could probably get a 1911 to ride if I wasn't going to be too active. the only problem I have is that there is not enough adjustment to get it low enough to use the belt slot so it swings a bit.
#X-15® - Vertical Shoulder Holster | Bianchi Leather (https://bianchileather.com/collections/alternate-carry/products/model-x15-vertical-shoulder-holster-19952)
jtcarm
01-22-2023, 12:08 PM
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That first pic is a dead ringer for my 24-3 in its 1920s EPS holster.
sharps54
05-10-2024, 05:55 PM
Thanks.
Agreed. I'm really happy with it. I've been hiking a lot and this holster sits low enough to be usable with a pack belt and is still easily concealed.
The leather does seem a little soft though. I hope it holds up.
How has that CCR held up? I’m thinking about ordering one.
How has that CCR held up? I’m thinking about ordering one.
I found a kramer vertical scabbard on ebay I've been using for it lately.
Even with the screw tightened as tight as I could get it I had it pop out multiple times playing on the floor and sledding.
sharps54
05-10-2024, 06:29 PM
I found a kramer vertical scabbard on ebay I've been using for it lately.
Even with the screw tightened as tight as I could get it I had it pop out multiple times playing on the floor and sledding.
Good to know, thank you!
BillSWPA
05-10-2024, 11:06 PM
I just got a Bianchi X-15 shoulder holster in. I was looking for something to keep a gun above waterline for fishing the creeks and rivers around here and did not want an open chest rig and a kit bag gets in the way fishing. I went back a watch the video Mas did on shoulder rigs and figured the clamshell spring rig would work the best. it will conceal well under a fishing vest or a sleeveless BDU top. Being a "one size fits many " type, I do not have a lack of choice in what to carry. From the SP101 to my GP100 .44 will fit. I could probably get a 1911 to ride if I wasn't going to be too active. the only problem I have is that there is not enough adjustment to get it low enough to use the belt slot so it swings a bit.
#X-15® - Vertical Shoulder Holster | Bianchi Leather (https://bianchileather.com/collections/alternate-carry/products/model-x15-vertical-shoulder-holster-19952)
Does this holster put any pressure on the back of your neck?
Crazy Dane
05-11-2024, 10:40 AM
Does this holster put any pressure on the back of your neck?
None at all. It hangs off of my left shoulder and the strap that goes around my right is all elastic and rides across my shoulders and back.
I have only 2 "concealed" style holsters for revolvers.
For N frame, 4", a Brauer Brothers Z44.
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For a 4" K, an old Bianchi shadow, that was my dads.
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Lost River
05-13-2024, 08:06 AM
lostRiver
Are those Herrett's stocks? I though they'd gone out of business with Steve's passing, but a quick search showed that they're still at work.
https://www.herrettstocks.com/
Duces
Duces Tecum
Obviously this is super late as I am just seeing it,
If you were asking about the grips on the revolver that I had in the IWB rig, which was a Pre-Model 1950 Target .45 ACP,
this one:
https://i.imgur.com/H8asOw1l.jpg
Those are the older factory grips on the N Frame.
Glenn E. Meyer
05-13-2024, 01:57 PM
Me too. Since my only carry revolvers are J frames lately - I use:
JM Custom Kydex
The "Road Dog" Holster
Pistol: S&W J Frame
Carry Side: Left
Belt Loops: 1.75"
Color: Red Carbon Fiber
I'm a lefty and the color is pretty.
Here's an IWB/appendix defilade made me for my Taurus 856 defender 3 inch.
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Is anyone making an IWB or OWB (any material) that would accommodate an RDS on a K, L or N? There are a few mounts out there that replace the adjustable rear sight, but I don't think I've seen any holsters.
toxophilus
05-13-2024, 03:33 PM
I'm getting used to this Desantis Flex Tuk for my 3 inch SP-101; I can carry it Cross-draw / AIWB / Strong Side.
The holster is also cant & height adjustable and has a flared opening, plus the hardware can be reversed for left hand carry as well.
It stated on their web site that it is for a Kimber though my SP-101 has a barrel shroud as well...
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Half Moon
05-13-2024, 04:12 PM
Is anyone making an IWB or OWB (any material) that would accommodate an RDS on a K, L or N? There are a few mounts out there that replace the adjustable rear sight, but I don't think I've seen any holsters.
Maybe these guys?
https://www.diamonddcustomleather.com/products/alaska-hunter-hip-holster
Was looking at holsters for an oddball revolver I was eyeballing on GunBroker and they list reflex sight as an option anyways...
defilade
05-13-2024, 05:00 PM
Here are a couple of leather holsters that I made for K frames. The 4” one I just gave to my son for his 18th Birthday yesterday to go with his Smith and Wesson 10-6 that we gave him.
The other holster is for my 2” 64-2. I just finished a couple more that I may try to sell. It will actually probably fit a 2 1/2” or 2 3/4” barreled K frame as well. I made it a little longer just in case I ever find a 66-8 that I keep looking at.
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sharps54
05-15-2024, 04:00 AM
Is anyone making an IWB or OWB (any material) that would accommodate an RDS on a K, L or N? There are a few mounts out there that replace the adjustable rear sight, but I don't think I've seen any holsters.
The Comp Tac International will, I have a buddy that uses one for his GP100 that has a RDS mounted.
BillSWPA
05-15-2024, 05:53 AM
Here are a couple of leather holsters that I made for K frames. The 4” one I just gave to my son for his 18th Birthday yesterday to go with his Smith and Wesson 10-6 that we gave him.
The other holster is for my 2” 64-2. I just finished a couple more that I may try to sell. It will actually probably fit a 2 1/2” or 2 3/4” barreled K frame as well. I made it a little longer just in case I ever find a 66-8 that I keep looking at.
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I like how low those holsters sit inside the waistband.
Corse
05-15-2024, 08:30 AM
I like how low those holsters sit inside the waistband.
I was thinking the same thing. Looks just about perfect.
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