View Full Version : Looking for minimal or ultrathin kydex holster for casual carry with my LCR 22
Elbowtko
11-03-2022, 06:14 PM
This is for a lounge around gun ideally in my shorts or elastic band sweatpants around the house that may also flex into the occasional belt carry or smartcarry/enigma set up. I would need it easy to take on and off.
The main thing I am looking for is a ultrathin kydex type holster with a single dcc clip with or without the ability to add a mod wing. I have considered vanguard type holsters with a dcc clip and mod wing but am leaning towards a fuller coverage holster if the difference in thickness/weight/comfort is negligible. However I may be ok with trigger guard cover type options that accept a dcc clip, I know vanguard doesn't offer one for the lcr. Ideally I wouldn't want the holster to be so bulky it can fit inside a smart carry if I decide to go that route.
Am considering Henry holster icon 2, philster city special, tulster true hide kydex, dsg Apollo, I'm not sure if these options are particularly thick tho. Open to suggestions.
Ps I'm not sure if this should go in holsters or revolvers but I figure the revolver group is more informed.
I won't be shy from leather options as long as they meet the criteria.
Chuck Whitlock
11-04-2022, 09:17 AM
FIST makes ultra thin kydex holsters, but I'm not sure if they will work with the DCC clips.
https://www.fist-holsters.com/store.html
Don't laugh at the site, as their products are primarily marketed towards women, but some of their products look like they will meet your criteria quite well, particularly those that are set up with the Utili Clip. My wife has one of the original FB holsters, and the Kydex is thin but sturdy. They list the LCR.
https://www.flashbangstore.com/collections/waist-holsters
psalms144.1
11-04-2022, 09:25 AM
Another vote for the FIST. Their standard clip is hellastrong, not sure why you would need the DCC. Of course, they don't offer (or didn't last time I looked) anything with a wing.
Caballoflaco
11-04-2022, 10:45 AM
Another vote for the FIST. Their standard clip is hellastrong, not sure why you would need the DCC. Of course, they don't offer (or didn't last time I looked) anything with a wing.
Unless someone is super skinny or has a huge grip on the gun a wing is usually unnecessary on a small snubby. Plus wings don’t really work with elastic waistbands in my experience since the elastic just stretches over the wing rather than cramming the grip into the torso.
Flamingo
11-04-2022, 01:09 PM
A DSG Apollo would work great as well.
BillSWPA
11-04-2022, 02:49 PM
FIST makes ultra thin kydex holsters, but I'm not sure if they will work with the DCC clips.
https://www.fist-holsters.com/store.html
Don't laugh at the site, as their products are primarily marketed towards women, but some of their products look like they will meet your criteria quite well, particularly those that are set up with the Utili Clip. My wife has one of the original FB holsters, and the Kydex is thin but sturdy. They list the LCR.
https://www.flashbangstore.com/collections/waist-holsters
I have a FIST ultra thin Kydex holster for a Colt Detective Special. The holster conceals very well, holds the gun securely, and facilitates an easy draw. The clip is permanently attached to the holster, but is ideally designed.
Gun Mutt
11-05-2022, 02:31 PM
Good lord, I think FIST still has the same website from 2003...what a bitch to navigate.
Dark Star Gear
11-06-2022, 01:59 PM
Unless someone is super skinny or has a huge grip on the gun a wing is usually unnecessary on a small snubby. Plus wings don’t really work with elastic waistbands in my experience since the elastic just stretches over the wing rather than cramming the grip into the torso.
So much this. Wings function by having a force applied to them which is a result of belt tension reacting inward against the wing. A lack of tension results in a lack of force. In addition, the cylinder generally creates a 5°-8° inward rotation of the grip in the first place, adding a wing doesn't help a ton. The other issue is width and thickness, the snubby holster is already wide, adding a wing in one way makes it wider, adding it over the trigger guard makes it thicker and your "stuff" under the belt is greatly increased.
Our general suggestion is to try things as is, then add the features needed to refine things to meet your concealment needs. As for the OP, there's not gonna be too much gained with a thinner material, and so much more lost in durability. Any of the aforementioned LCR holsters should do the trick.
Up1911Fan
11-06-2022, 02:03 PM
So much this. Wings function by having a force applied to them which is a result of belt tension reacting inward against the wing. A lack of tension results in a lack of force. In addition, the cylinder generally creates a 5°-8° inward rotation of the grip in the first place, adding a wing doesn't help a ton. The other issue is width and thickness, the snubby holster is already wide, adding a wing in one way makes it wider, adding it over the trigger guard makes it thicker and your "stuff" under the belt is greatly increased.
Our general suggestion is to try things as is, then add the features needed to refine things to meet your concealment needs. As for the OP, there's not gonna be too much gained with a thinner material, and so much more lost in durability. Any of the aforementioned LCR holsters should do the trick.
Tom, are these shipping with a DCC clip now instead of the wider one?
Dark Star Gear
11-06-2022, 02:05 PM
Tom, are these shipping with a DCC clip now instead of the wider one?
The SP101 is the only one currently shipping with a DCC, and the only one with the height tweaked to have our preferred height adjustment range with one attached. The K6S and Taurus small frame, both 3", are next, with a J-frame and LCR refresh right after.
Up1911Fan
11-06-2022, 02:07 PM
The SP101 is the only one currently shipping with a DCC, and the only one with the height tweaked to have our preferred height adjustment range with one attached. The K6S and Taurus small frame, both 3", are next, with a J-frame and LCR refresh right after.
Cool, I'm gonna hold off on ordering one for an LCR then.
Elbowtko
11-15-2022, 01:25 AM
So much this. Wings function by having a force applied to them which is a result of belt tension reacting inward against the wing. A lack of tension results in a lack of force. In addition, the cylinder generally creates a 5°-8° inward rotation of the grip in the first place, adding a wing doesn't help a ton. The other issue is width and thickness, the snubby holster is already wide, adding a wing in one way makes it wider, adding it over the trigger guard makes it thicker and your "stuff" under the belt is greatly increased.
Our general suggestion is to try things as is, then add the features needed to refine things to meet your concealment needs. As for the OP, there's not gonna be too much gained with a thinner material, and so much more lost in durability. Any of the aforementioned LCR holsters should do the trick.
Thanks DSG,
I will no longer require a mod wing due to responses here. Does it matter where exactly the clip itself is placed? I notice that with some Kydex holsters, some of the clips are placed on top of the cylinder, some underneath it, and some in line with the trigger. I notice that with some holsters if in line with the trigger, since the weight of the cylinder is more the gun will tilt downward towards the muzzle end. I know you mention you are still using the wider clip. Where would you place the DCC clip at?
mmc45414
11-15-2022, 12:42 PM
I just put a DCC clip on an Enigma Shell, and it has been working great:
J-Frame JMCK Enigma Shell Minimalist AIWB Hack (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?53578-J-Frame-JMCK-Enigma-Shell-Minimalist-AIWB-Hack&highlight=mmc45414)
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ETA: Part of my motivation here is that with elastic pants and no belt I want it to ride pretty low, the waistband will not interfere with your grip as much as with a belt.
lord, I think FIST still has the same website from 2003...what a bitch to navigate.
It is. It's brutal. At times I've just called them as when I wanted a #1K (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1K) clip straight drop for 4" N frames. lol Great guy to talk to. They used to be available on Amazon but he bailed on them because he said it was so hard to get paid by the hegemonic Amazon. But it sure made ordering easier then. ;)
willie
11-16-2022, 09:37 AM
Good lord, I think FIST still has the same website from 2003...what a bitch to navigate.
Thank you. I thought maybe I had dementia when I went there.:confused:
Polecat
11-16-2022, 07:49 PM
Dave Cook of Cook’s Holsters can hook you up. You can special order all models in 0.06 Kydex, he does not use it routinely cause it womt hold up, but he will make em.
Dark Star Gear
11-20-2022, 12:42 PM
Thanks DSG,
I will no longer require a mod wing due to responses here. Does it matter where exactly the clip itself is placed? I notice that with some Kydex holsters, some of the clips are placed on top of the cylinder, some underneath it, and some in line with the trigger. I notice that with some holsters if in line with the trigger, since the weight of the cylinder is more the gun will tilt downward towards the muzzle end. I know you mention you are still using the wider clip. Where would you place the DCC clip at?
That one is subjective. I prefer to have at least one clip in line with the resistance on the draw such that the draw doesn't force the holster to cant. The interference for the draw on most guns is in the trigger guard, so that's where we put them. This typically works well with a single clip as the body and belt tension create enough outward force to let things get too sloppy. The inguinal crease also helps keep things steady, so in short, most get by fine with a single clip and reasonable weight. A 4" six shot K-frame might be a different story, but even a G34 can work well with one clip in this spot, accepting a small amount of float on the angle.
For what we're offering, it's the solo clip in line with the draw resistance and currently only for snubbies that won't so heavy that the single clip is an issue. In the future we are going to evaluate things for the larger guns and potentially go dual clips.
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