Fink's Custom SP101

[Tokarev]

327 Fed Mag is, in my opinion, sort of the unsung hero of the snub world.

Here's a nice write-up of the Ruger SP101 after a bit of custom work.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/fink-s-custom-ruger-sp101-a-trail-to-town-revolver/

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[03RN]

https://ruger.com/products/sp101/specSheets/15707.html

They need to do this barrel profile in .327

[Polecat]

That Lipsey’s looks great! Man, imagine a fixed barrel like that with U notch rear, ameriglo front dayglo / tritium! A man can dream. The .327 is no joke! I love the flexibility of this round. I wish ruger would consider a .327 or . 32 magnum in a 2” Barrel! They need an aluminum frame SP as well!

[LittleLebowski]

Tamara recently mentioned that the recoil from the .327 Mag is…snappy, I believe.

[Tamara]

.327 Federal Magnum is a triumph of marketing departments, gunwriters, and ballistics table masturbation over how pistol bullets actually work.

.327 in a steel-frame snub is dumb. In an Airweight, it's cosmically idiotic.

I can see no circumstance that would have me loading a .327 Federal Magnum snubbie with anything other than .32 H&R LSWC.

This sort of nonsense comes from the same geniuses that thought .357 Magnum Scandium AirLite J-frames were a good idea.

[Tokarev]

.327 Federal Magnum is a triumph of marketing departments, gunwriters, and ballistics table masturbation over how pistol bullets actually work.

.327 in a steel-frame snub is dumb. In an Airweight, it's cosmically idiotic.

I can see no circumstance that would have me loading a .327 Federal Magnum snubbie with anything other than .32 H&R LSWC.

This sort of nonsense comes from the same geniuses that thought .357 Magnum Scandium AirLite J-frames were a good idea.I don't find my LCR unpleasant at all. At least not in terms of recoil. It is certainly loud but most handguns are...

For those who insist on carrying a wheel gun for whatever reason, the 327 (or 32 H&R) makes some sense. An extra cartridge and bullets that may actually expand and still penetrate to 12+ in gel after passing through clothing. But I suppose few outside of this forum and a few others care about the minutiae of this stuff.



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[Wayne Dobbs]

.327 Federal Magnum is a triumph of marketing departments, gunwriters, and ballistics table masturbation over how pistol bullets actually work.

.327 in a steel-frame snub is dumb. In an Airweight, it's cosmically idiotic.

I can see no circumstance that would have me loading a .327 Federal Magnum snubbie with anything other than .32 H&R LSWC.

This sort of nonsense comes from the same geniuses that thought .357 Magnum Scandium AirLite J-frames were a good idea.

You'll never become wealthy telling the truth.

[Tamara]

I don't find my LCR unpleasant at all. At least not in terms of recoil. It is certainly loud but most handguns are...

For those who insist on carrying a wheel gun for whatever reason, the 327 (or 32 H&R) makes some sense. An extra cartridge and bullets that may actually expand and still penetrate to 12+ in gel after passing through clothing. But I suppose few outside of this forum and a few others care about the minutiae of this stuff.

Here's how I look at it:

.32 H&R Magnum 95gr Federal LSWC will penetrate pretty much a whole block of ballistic gel after going through 4LD.

.327 Fed will do the same thing with more recoil, more noise, double the split times, and twice the price.

Oh, the latter will make pretty expanded hollow points.

I'll go with the H&R in a snubbie for the same reason I carry .38 Federal Gold Medal Match wadcutters in a .38 snubbie... or even a .357 snubbie.

[Poconnor]

https://ruger.com/products/sp101/specSheets/15707.html

They need to do this barrel profile in .327

They need to make this variant is stainless !!!

[03RN]

Here's how I look at it:

.32 H&R Magnum 95gr Federal LSWC will penetrate pretty much a whole block of ballistic gel after going through 4LD.

.327 Fed will do the same thing with more recoil, more noise, double the split times, and twice the price.

Oh, the latter will make pretty expanded hollow points.

I'll go with the H&R in a snubbie for the same reason I carry .38 Federal Gold Medal Match wadcutters in a .38 snubbie... or even a .357 snubbie.

I've shot a lot of drills with .38s back to back with .357 snubs and the difference is so minimal I keep .357s loaded with .357s.

It's been a long time since I've shot a .327 but I didn't find it abusive.

[Hizzie]

I've shot a lot of drills with .38s back to back with .357 snubs and the difference is so minimal I keep .357s loaded with .357s.

It's been a long time since I've shot a .327 but I didn't find it abusive.

You Sir are not the norm. Size and strength make a huge difference.

The 327 thing is not unlike the 38/357 situation with lightweight snubbies. Easy shooting wadcutters get the job done and do it without punishing the shooter.

[Polecat]

I agree with Tamara, not sure ist’s worth the squeeze. I remember my little 337PD, and it was like a grenade going off in your hand. I then found some 3D 100 Gr wadcutter back in the day loaded at about 725 or so if I recall, these were super mild, actually enjoyable to shoot, and realized it was basically .32 ballistics. DB made the point that Ruger should just release a .32 HR in the lighter .38 frame as opposed to a .357 frame. Same with the tiny Taurus view. If the view was offered in .32, .22, and .22 WMR, it would be way more practical.

I would love more .32s. I found a little Taurus TCP 732 in .32 ACP and compared to my LCP I like the .32 ALOT more!! Imagine a 12 or 13 round true pocket .32!

[Tamara]

I've shot a lot of drills with .38s back to back with .357 snubs and the difference is so minimal I keep .357s loaded with .357s.

Post video of Bill Drill or GTFO.

[03RN]

Post video of Bill Drill or GTFO.

I thought I had a bill drill with my m66 but it was just a double.
My splits with .38s might be about .03 faster on average.

https://youtu.be/UzRt19UhWBM

https://youtu.be/RBzjRv58G-I

https://youtu.be/SnRB88uMaBg

[breakingtime91]

I thought I had a bill drill with my m66 but it was just a double.
My splits with .38s might be about .03 faster on average.

https://youtu.be/UzRt19UhWBM

https://youtu.be/RBzjRv58G-I

https://youtu.be/SnRB88uMaBg

good shooting. money where your mouth is, etc

[MolonLabe416]

Finks does great work. They’ve worked over a GP100WC and a 66-8 for me. I’ll be dropping off a Model 12 and a Model 28 with them while I’m at PRMRR next month. The 28 will be converted to a 3.5” 45 ACP with a 45 barrel and cylinder I picked up for a song.

[JPedersen]

https://ruger.com/products/sp101/specSheets/15707.html

They need to do this barrel profile in .327

100% Yes! Good call.


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[Salamander]

Here's how I look at it:

.32 H&R Magnum 95gr Federal LSWC will penetrate pretty much a whole block of ballistic gel after going through 4LD.

.327 Fed will do the same thing with more recoil, more noise, double the split times, and twice the price.

Oh, the latter will make pretty expanded hollow points.

I'll go with the H&R in a snubbie for the same reason I carry .38 Federal Gold Medal Match wadcutters in a .38 snubbie... or even a .357 snubbie.

I had a 327 SP101 for a while. If Ruger ergonomics agreed with my hands (they don't) I might have kept it and shot mostly 32 H&R. But with 327, I found the blast to be pretty obnoxious indoors. And it was the blast that bothered me more than the recoil. I agree that the gain wasn't enough to be worth it. For self defence carry, 32 H&R seems like a better choice. For woods carry, to accept that level of blast/recoil I'd want a bigger bore and some non-lead projectile choices.

[Lester Polfus]

I thought I had a bill drill with my m66 but it was just a double.
My splits with .38s might be about .03 faster on average.

https://youtu.be/UzRt19UhWBM

https://youtu.be/RBzjRv58G-I

https://youtu.be/SnRB88uMaBg

Good shooting. Now try it with an Airlight snub with .38 and then with full-tilt .357 loads.

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[Tamara]

I thought I had a bill drill with my m66 but it was just a double.
My splits with .38s might be about .03 faster on average.

https://youtu.be/UzRt19UhWBM

That is indeed very solid shooting, but as Lester Polfus noted, we seem to have gone from lightweight small frames to steel medium frames here…:confused:

[03RN]

That is indeed very solid shooting, but as Lester Polfus noted, we seem to have gone from lightweight small frames to steel medium frames here…:confused:


Sorry, I thought we were talking Snubbies in general.

".327 in a steel-frame snub is dumb. In an Airweight, it's cosmically idiotic.

I can see no circumstance that would have me loading a .327 Federal Magnum snubbie"

[L-2]

The subject SP101 in .327 looks really nice.
Right now, whether personally, financially, or whether I'd use/carry it, I don't see me buying one.
All my revolvers are 5, 6, 7, or 8 rounders in .38 (in 5-shot J-frames) or .357 right now.
I just can't see making a ~$2000 investment into the .327 caliber to get that 6th round.
(I realize without the custom work, money could be saved. As usual for me, the ammo-cost would outweigh the initial firearm & accessory outlay.)

{In retrospect, I should have kept my SP101 3" 5-shot which was the old/original .38 Special-only version from the late 80s/early 90s.
I remember not liking the low-round-count-to-weight/size; the rattling of the transfer bar; and the trigger with somewhat sharp edges.

That was back in the days when I only owned three firearms and didn't feel I could afford to have more.
Instead of the SP101, at that time, I transitioned to a Glock 27 gen2.5 (backup/off-duty) and a Glock 22 gen2 (for full-size duty use).}

Yet after reading about the subject Ruger, I'm thinking about getting one in that caliber.

[Sal Picante]

Sorry, I thought we were talking Snubbies in general.

".327 in a steel-frame snub is dumb. In an Airweight, it's cosmically idiotic.

I can see no circumstance that would have me loading a .327 Federal Magnum snubbie"

No. This is the dumbest. Especially in FL. :cool:

p/CJ1_mY_MtAN

But I love it...

[OlongJohnson]

I've had extensive conversations with a highly reputable nitriding service provider about doing revolvers. (Was thinking Model 28 at the time.) He said the only way to know whether it would be safe to do it on a revolver where the metallurgy wasn't designed for it from the beginning would be to sacrifice a cylinder, cutting some lab samples out for metallurgical tests before and after processing. Then hope the "real" cylinder you did had the same properties as the one you tested.

Also, to do a revolver, you'd have to separate the barrel from the frame. Many cases of AR barrels being nitrided with the barrel extension torqued on and the metal relaxing and losing torque due to the extreme temperatures involved.

I'd at least want to quiz Fink's about whether these two steps had been taken, at a minimum.

I still want a rustproof, scratchproof Model 28.

[jtcarm]

I don’t see the need to phosphate-coat a stainless revolver, unless you live on a coast

[Totem Polar]

My use for .327 Fed mag starts and stops within the idea of acquiring a minty used lever gun. Some of those .327 Fed loadings start making real sense in a lever rifle.

But yeah. Too snappy, too loud, even in steel 6 or 7 shot wheelies. JMO.


Ryan is a big strong guy, and a skilled shooter, and can get away with the snappy part.


JMO. OMMV, carry what you want, etc.

[MandoWookie]

https://ruger.com/products/sp101/specSheets/15707.html

They need to do this barrel profile in .327

Make it a 4 inch barrel, and squeeze another round of .38/.357 in it, in stainless, and it would make an excellent supplement/replacement for my Security Six.

[jtcarm]

Make it a 4 inch barrel, and squeeze another round of .38/.357 in it, in stainless, and it would make an excellent supplement/replacement for my Security Six.

Why replace a Security Six?

[MandoWookie]

Why replace a Security Six?

Because it is out of production, I only have the one, and they aren't getting any cheaper.

Otherwise it's my idea of a perfect revolver.

I like the SP101, but it's too large for just 5 rounds, and the GP100 is too large for just 6( now kinda corrected with the 7 shooters, now it's just too large), but an SP101 with 6 rounds would be an adequate compromise.

[Lester Polfus]

Because it is out of production, I only have the one, and they aren't getting any cheaper.

Otherwise it's my idea of a perfect revolver.

I like the SP101, but it's too large for just 5 rounds, and the GP100 is too large for just 6( now kinda corrected with the 7 shooters, now it's just too large), but an SP101 with 6 rounds would be an adequate compromise.

The gun you're describing is the Kimber K6, but after all the free beer I drank in the 2000s in recompense for trying to fix friend's Kimbers, I can't make myself do it.

[MandoWookie]

The gun you're describing is the Kimber K6, but after all the free beer I drank in the 2000s in recompense for trying to fix friend's Kimbers, I can't make myself do it.

I've looked hard at the K6, but 3 things hold me back.

1, Kimber. I don't trust them.
2, fugly, and for me at least the ergos just do not work out with my hands, especially on the hammer models.
3, cost. Though not ridiculously higher than Ruger, especially for what you get, it's enough to tip the scales.

I mean, the K6 is basically a gucci SP101, I don't see why Ruger won't just stick another round in and make a standard production adjustable sight model in 2 1/2, 3 and 4 inches, and make the basic rear dovetail sight the baseline.

[Lester Polfus]

I don't see why Ruger won't just stick another round in and make a standard production adjustable sight model in 2 1/2, 3 and 4 inches, and make the basic rear dovetail sight the baseline.

I hope eventually that's what they will do. For the last couple of years, they've been able to sell every EC9 they could make though, and I would imagine their margin on those guns and similar offerings are pretty high. It looks like the market is starting to calm down a little bit we'll see some action from them.

My objections to the K6 are pretty much the same as yours. By the time I paid tax and transfer, I paid $1K on my 640 Pro. I'm not averse to spending the same amount of money on a 6-shot revolver with good sights that is bigger than my J-frame, but smaller than a K-Frame, but I'm not sure I want it to say "Kimber" on the side.

[Zeke38]

FWIW I went through this excercise a couple of years ago with the 640 Pro the Kimber K6 and the Colt KC 3". After a year of shooting, carry, shoot some more, on all three, I kept the Colt KC in its three inch configuration and the Smith 640Pro. The 640 Pro just cause it is a "neat" gun. The KC serves yeoman duty concealed carry with no regrets.

I liked the Kimber but very little aftermarket support for it. I've been tempted to purchase another K6 in a DAO 2" with night sights, but the 640 Pro puts the brakes on that purchase. I think the sights on the K6 are the best but the grip suffers, although the triggers are supernice, as they should be at their price point.

[awp_101]

Putting LOK Veloce stocks on my 4” K6S took it from “meh, maybe I can trade it for something else without getting shafted too badly” to “hmmm, that’s more like what I was expecting in the first place”. Yeah, it’s another ~$125 into an already expensive revolver but I would have lost more than that if I’d just dumped it after the first 2 range sessions.

[D-der]

I've got a 3" SP101 357 in the safe I picked up about 20 years
ago and don't think I ever shot it, not in the last 10 anyway.
Any suggestion's on what may be a good ammo starting point
would be much appreciated, more so 38's or lighter 357.

[Lester Polfus]

I've got a 3" SP101 357 in the safe I picked up about 20 years
ago and don't think I ever shot it, not in the last 10 anyway.
Any suggestion's on what may be a good ammo starting point
would be much appreciated, more so 38's or lighter 357.

The issue with some of the better .38 and .357 loads is that they are only made in sporadic runs.

135 grain Gold Dot .38 Special +P Short Barrel is a great load, but currently unavailable. Also the 130 grain HydraShok Deep .38 Special +P.

Remington is making the .357 Golden Saber load right now. It's a 125 grain bullet running 1200 FPS (VS 1400). I've found it shootable out of a 640 Pro, so you might like it in an SP101.