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37th Mass
10-08-2022, 08:56 AM
What are some things to consider when selecting an optic to be used on an AR-15 pistol? Narrow it down to only zero-power optics. Would a holographic sight be more advantageous than a reflex red dot? I don’t think that a prism red dot would be as functional in this application.
The optic must be useful when firing with one hand unsupported, or with one hand using a brace.
Please don’t let the thread devolve into a series of posts about why AR pistols are stupid. This thread is also NOT about the pending/possible ATF changes regarding braced pistols and SBRs.
I’m really just asking for optics advice. Thanks.
Wake27
10-08-2022, 09:01 AM
Most people don’t really have considerations along those lines, it’s really what you would prefer and works best. There is no generally accepted “holos work best for pistols” type rule. But they do work best for astigmatism so that may be a starting point. If that’s not a concern of yours, I’d probably go with a mini RDS with the Aimpoint micro mounting platform because you’re going to want it to be light if that’s how you’ll really be shooting.
Budget and specific use of the AR would also be better starting points. Do you have experience with any optics commonly mounted on an AR?
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37th Mass
10-08-2022, 09:15 AM
I don't have astigmatism, thankfully. Keeping it light weight makes sense.
I have a Holosun 403 on a carbine, but I shoot that with two hands, using the stock and with a cheek weld. Different application from this.
I'd like to see what options there are under $200. Although I could go up to $300 if it makes a big difference.
HeavyDuty
10-08-2022, 09:43 AM
I’ve settled on SIG Romeo4Ts in Reptilia mounts as my standard optic on AR and MCX pistols. They work for me on a capability, feature and cost basis. Lanbo’s having one of the versions silly cheap helped, too - I ended up with several of those. A few got 3x magnifiers.
Darth_Uno
10-08-2022, 10:31 AM
If you're really planning on shooting one-handed for any amount of time, you'll probably just want to go as lightweight as possible with a mini RDS. It'd be more advantageous to get a lightweight barrel and rail, since all that weight's just hanging out there trying to pull the barrel down.
A red dot or holo sight will work equally well for the way people use AR pistols effectively, I have no idea what would work well for shooting one handed, What’s the reason that “ it must be usefulone handed unsuppoerted” ? That’s about the least effective way to use it
Wake27
10-08-2022, 11:41 AM
The Holosun 507 ACSS Vulcan may have some utility here. Paired with a Scalarworks mount, it'd be about as light as you can get for an optic.
37th Mass
10-08-2022, 12:57 PM
Window shopping on the web, it looks like the holographic sights are more expensive than I would like to pay.
As for why I'm interested in this, I anticipate having one arm in a sling for a while, but I would still like to have fun at the range. I'll leave it at that.
A mini reflex RDS on lightweight mount sounds like a good solution. Thanks everyone.
HeavyDuty
10-08-2022, 01:33 PM
Another light, less expensive option - the SIG Romeo5 XDR that takes a AAA battery. One is holding up well for me on a 9mm MPX.
Tannhauser
10-11-2022, 07:12 PM
RDS is my choice. No eye relief and effectively no parallax. I gave significant astigmatism and have no problem making a red dot work.
stomridertx
10-12-2022, 12:09 PM
I think I'm picking up on what you want to achieve here, and I think you should treat it just like a RDS for a regular pistol. You cannot have any eye relief restrictions and you need it to be as lightweight as possible. Think RMR, Holosun 407/507/508/509/EPS, Aimpoint Acro, etc. Traditional AR backup iron sights are a no-go with one handed shooting with a brace because they are designed to work with the aperture close to your eyeball. There is no good solution to put notch and post pistol sights on an AR, so it should be an optic-only affair. One handed shooting with the brace as they were originally intended is awkward to begin with so you'll really need to find the sweet spot on the rail for the RDS and it may or may not benefit from a higher mount. You might want to buy a few different mount heights and return or sell the ones you don't use.
I know you said this is not about the coming ATF pistol brace ruling so forgive me if I'm speaking out of turn. If by chance you are looking at passing the worksheet point system, that is out of play now and they are going to flat out say the braces make an AR pistol an SBR. They are proposing "amnesty" to get them registered under the NFA for free. Hopefully lawsuits and November elections will make them stop this nonsense, but that's how it stands right now. Trying to make a build using the points system is going to lead to heartache.
Casual Friday
10-12-2022, 12:48 PM
I just buy Aimpoints and move on with life.
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Nephrology
10-12-2022, 07:44 PM
I like reflex sights (holosight/red dot) of some kind, but also have an 11.5" SBR with a Razor 1-6 on it. Great gun.
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