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newyork
10-05-2022, 07:25 AM
I’ve been using a Stopbox for a while and I like it. Problem with it is it doesn’t fit a 5” m&P with rmr and light and a mag. It’ll fit my 4” in that configuration or a g19 but anything bigger doesn’t fit. They don’t offer a larger size unless you get the $300 steel wall mounted one.

Is there an option for a non electronic bedside portable safe for full size handgun with rmr and light and extra mag ?

Thing I like with the stopbox is it’s light but strong and you can quickly press down and squeeze your fingers on the buttons. No key no electronics.

It’s not to prevent burglary. I have kids and want a bedside gun without them having access (obviously).

JohnO
10-05-2022, 07:57 AM
Both Ft. Knox & Liberty safe companies offer pistol valts/lock boxes.

UncleGabby
10-05-2022, 07:58 AM
I have been using this Fort Knox pistol box for almost 5 years now and it fits my full size Beretta 92 with a Surefire X300U and 2 extra mags, and my J frame (when it’s not in my pocket) and a reload for the J frame, and a pepper spray, no problem. It’s primary purpose is to keep it out of my kids hands. I did bolt it down to my night stand, which would make stealing it very awkward and inconvenient for the average smash and grab theif.95269

El Cid
10-05-2022, 08:04 AM
I wanted one that would accommodate a pistol with a suppressor. It will also hold a couple Glock 19's with weapon lights, so I'd think it would meet your needs. My only gripe is the piston has started to fail. It will open a bit (I can still get it open) but it hesitates. I like it enough I'm researching how to replace or repair the piston.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0716M35G1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1

newyork
10-05-2022, 08:22 AM
I have been using this Fort Knox pistol box for almost 5 years now and it fits my full size Beretta 92 with a Surefire X300U and 2 extra mags, and my J frame (when it’s not in my pocket) and a reload for the J frame, and a pepper spray, no problem. It’s primary purpose is to keep it out of my kids hands. I did bolt it down to my night stand, which would make stealing it very awkward and inconvenient for the average smash and grab theif.95269

Can you tell me which model that is? Thank you.

UncleGabby
10-05-2022, 08:28 AM
They call it the Original Pistol Box. I don’t think they have a huge variety of sizes. But I can measure mine to make sure they haven’t changed up the specs.

HeavyDuty
10-05-2022, 08:36 AM
I think it is this one? https://www.amazon.com/Fort-Knox-Original-Defensive-Training/dp/B072NFNDZB

BobLoblaw
10-05-2022, 08:40 AM
I have a V-Line Brute. Looks similar to the Ft. Knox. Simplex lock, holds 2 pistols, and fairly heavy for its size. Hydraulic arm aids opening and closing. Mounting bolt holes on back.

blues
10-05-2022, 08:41 AM
I have a V-Line "Brute" which is a great little safe. I bolted mine to the floor. I can get a G17, G19 and a J-frame in it. Simplex lock.

BobLoblaw
10-05-2022, 08:42 AM
I have a V-Line "Brute" which is a great little safe. I bolted mine to the floor. I can get a G17, G19 and a J-frame in it. Simplex lock.

Jinx, you owe me a coke.

rob_s
10-05-2022, 09:23 AM
I have one of these in the nightstand with the drawer-front modified to swing down instead of pull out (although you still *can* pull it out)
Fort Knox PB4 Personal Pistol Safe (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075QMCNK)
appears to be currently unavailable, but I paid $215-ish the last time (2015)


and one under the passenger seat in our campervan.
V-Line Slide-Away Security Safe, Semi-Flat Black (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0100WUX6I)
about $370 now, which is about $100 more than I paid.


Been thinking about one of these for under the desk
V-Line 2597-S Desk Mate Keyless Security Box with Quick Release Mounting Bracket (Black) (https://www.amazon.com/V-Line-2597-S-Keyless-Security-Mounting)



Quite happy with them in both applications, and haven't had any fitment issues. Pic below from the Fort Knox listing above shows two dummy M92s in one, to give you an idea of size.

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dontshakepandas
10-05-2022, 09:42 AM
I use this on my night stand. I have it secured to the nightstand. A thief could just carry the whole thing away, but I generally keep my carry gun in it so if I'm not home it would likely empty anyways. It does a fantastic job of keeping kids out which was my primary concern.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0100WUX6I/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It is fairly large, but I basically just use it as a shelf and keep my phone charger and some Kleenex on top of it.

I love that the drawer fully opens and makes it very easy to access my gun. It has plenty of room for a pistol with a light and RDS, with enough space left for an extra mag and a handheld flashlight.

newyork
10-05-2022, 10:02 AM
All more money than I expected but they look worth it. I’m liking the looks of the v line models.

oregon45
10-05-2022, 10:25 AM
I really like the V-line Brute. I've had it for about three years now and it holds two Beretta 92X's, a spare mag and a flashlight. The Simplex lock is easy and quick to use, and the lockbox itself heavy enough that when you open the lid, the box doesn't slide around.

HeavyDuty
10-05-2022, 10:27 AM
All more money than I expected but they look worth it. I’m liking the looks of the v line models.

If cost is an issue, this one gets good reviews and would likely be fine to tide you over until you find a better safe: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UG9HB1Q

JTQ
10-05-2022, 10:49 AM
FAS1 also uses the Simplex locks, but these models are mostly vertical and have a nylon holster to hold your gun.

http://www.fas1safe.com

dontshakepandas
10-05-2022, 11:03 AM
FAS1 also uses the Simplex locks, but these models are mostly vertical and have a nylon holster to hold your gun.

http://www.fas1safe.com

Are those compatible with a pistol with a red dot? It doesn't look like the nylon holster would accommodate that by the pictures.

dontshakepandas
10-05-2022, 11:11 AM
All more money than I expected but they look worth it. I’m liking the looks of the v line models.

I definitely had sticker shock when I was looking into these too. Unfortunately, it seems like that is just what it takes to get something that isn't Chinese garbage or that has cheap electronics that will fail.

JTQ
10-05-2022, 12:42 PM
Are those compatible with a pistol with a red dot? It doesn't look like the nylon holster would accommodate that by the pictures.

I don't know. They have a variety of holster options - I think they may have ones that accommodate lights - but I don't follow them closely enough to know if they offer red dot holsters. They mount to the lid of the box, so perhaps it may make accommodating the optic difficult.

Irelander
10-05-2022, 01:07 PM
I've been happy with my Sentry Safe pistol safe.

https://store.sentrysafe.com/collections/pistol-safes/products/qap1blx

Noah
10-05-2022, 02:02 PM
I have a Shotlock Solo Vault with a Simplex lock that fits a large RDS/WML pistol, and a V-Line simplex rifle safe of some kind made for police cruisers that I use as a closet AR safe. Very happy with both.

I had the same needs as you, Stop Box was kinda my entry to safes and I'm a stickler for mechanical locks.

CraigS
10-06-2022, 07:57 AM
We have on like the FtKnox that we got maybe 20 yrs ago from Beretta. Ours holds two 92s w/ the old style 20 rnd mags. I can't be sure it would fit your gun but I can say I really like the Simplex lock. About 4 yrs in we heard a bump in the night and I was real disappointed how long it took me to get it open. Not the lock's fault at all, it was all on me. Since then I open the lock every time we hit the sack, and pull it out from under the bed. In the AM I latch the lock and shove it back under. So 15 x365 is a lot of use and it still works like new. I am very impressed w/ this simple mechanical lock. BTW I have a 3ft piece of 1/8" cable w/ the plastic coating. It is wrapped around the bed frame and each end inserted into the box through a 3/8" hole. I tie a simple overhand know in each end of the cable and there is no way it could ever be pulled out.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-30-ft-Weldless-Vinyl-Coated-Steel-Cable/1000834076

El Cid
10-06-2022, 02:30 PM
FAS1 also uses the Simplex locks, but these models are mostly vertical and have a nylon holster to hold your gun.

http://www.fas1safe.com

The company owner is (or was) a member here on PF. I have one of his also, and it's very nice. They are also expensive (get what you pay for) and heavy (not a bad thing - but shipping is expensive).

FAS1
12-16-2022, 12:18 AM
Are those compatible with a pistol with a red dot? It doesn't look like the nylon holster would accommodate that by the pictures.

Yes, The FAS1-TL and Magnum TL safes holsters are made to acomódate a light and/or optic.

HeavyDuty
12-16-2022, 07:52 AM
Yes, The FAS1-TL and Magnum TL safes holsters are made to acomódate a light and/or optic.

You have a nice product line, plus you’re here in TX. I need to figure out which of yours will work best in the new house.

FAS1 , would a PM work if I have questions or would you prefer an email from the website?

Super77
12-16-2022, 08:20 AM
I have been using a FAS1 daily since 2016. I have two others that don’t get accessed as often. They all work perfectly every time. I highly recommend FAS1.

FAS1
12-16-2022, 09:19 AM
You have a nice product line, plus you’re here in TX. I need to figure out which of yours will work best in the new house.

FAS1 , would a PM work if I have questions or would you prefer an email from the website?

Thanks Ken. An email would be better since I don’t get here much lately.

Wake27
12-16-2022, 10:07 AM
I’ve been using a Stopbox for a while and I like it. Problem with it is it doesn’t fit a 5” m&P with rmr and light and a mag. It’ll fit my 4” in that configuration or a g19 but anything bigger doesn’t fit. They don’t offer a larger size unless you get the $300 steel wall mounted one.

Is there an option for a non electronic bedside portable safe for full size handgun with rmr and light and extra mag ?

Thing I like with the stopbox is it’s light but strong and you can quickly press down and squeeze your fingers on the buttons. No key no electronics.

It’s not to prevent burglary. I have kids and want a bedside gun without them having access (obviously).

Why not electronic? They’re not cheap but I’ve been super pleased with my Vaultek biometric. I had a biometric safe years ago and it was trash, the Vaultek’s bio reader has opened every time I’ve tried it and I’m definitely happy with it and plan to buy more.


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