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Just got back from a 3 day class where I put 1000 rounds through one of the G47 I picked up last Friday. I stippled the grip, gave it a good cleaning, polished the trigger parts that interface (¢25 trigger job), put on the sights I use and a TTI reduced power plunger spring. The gun ran with no issues and put rounds where the sights were pointed. It has the new plastic MOS plate and I’m not sure if it makes much of a difference but I think the reduction of weight may make the slide cycle a hir faster over my work G47 with the metal plate. I’ll probably shoot them side by side sometime and see it it’s a real thing or not…but expect it to be very slight.
Is there any reason to believe that the G47 might have less reliability due to it running a G19 spring over a G17 spring? Sorta like what some have claimed about the G48 compared to the G43X?
No. That hasn’t been the case with the G19/19X/45 but a G19 RSA is both different / longer than the slim guns and much more vetted. The length of the 9mm rounds a the constant.
The 47 has been independently tested by both CBP/USBP and USSS.
The G26 does exhibit those issues either but it needed the double recoil spring (which layer found it’s way into the Gen 4/5 guns) to work.
Hmmm…upon further inspection the MOS covers on both my new G47 are metal, not plastic. Don’t believe everything you read on the interwebs. Also, I don’t think USSS did any independent reliability testing of the G47, they bought them off our contract (and got them months before we did) according to a close friend in that Agency.
Hmmm…upon further inspection the MOS covers on both my new G47 are metal, not plastic. Don’t believe everything you read on the interwebs. Also, I don’t think USSS did any independent reliability testing of the G47, they bought them off our contract (and got them months before we did) according to a close friend in that Agency.
USSS bought off y’all’s contract but I know for sure they did do their own testing before doing so.
Hell you guys didn’t even do your own testing - it was farmed out to HP White labs.
Gotcha…just going off what my CAT buddy told me. I figured it was more along the lines of what we did (Agent evaluation) rather than testing (what HP White did).
By now it is common knowledge, but just saw the official announcement (https://www.instagram.com/p/ConFM5YNebU/) from Glock re: 47 MOS replacing the 17 MOS
Screwball
03-02-2023, 09:47 PM
For what it’s worth… a lot of talk with OFO in regards to the 47 becoming an option for CBPOs. A survey was also put out to officers on whether there is interest.
Locally, it is either people want the 47 or people just don’t want any change. If it’s an option (only those who want one, get one), the latter argument is just people being miserable… which there are definitely some in OFO.
I’ll likely switch if it comes up as an option. Just like the larger grip. It will also be nice to get more 17 magazines (have some for my Retro P80 and 34… as well as 24s and 33s). I’ll keep the 19 magazines for my SUB-2000 and 9mm AR. I am glad I went with 9mm Glock magazine firearms, as I definitely will have magazine sources over the next couple years.
I finally got a 47 MOS earlier this week. Put an SRO on, with a Forward Controls plate, Ameriglo .315 (front) BUIS, an extended OEM mag release, 5 pound striker spring and brass CHPWS plug. Wanted to drop in the Glock Performance trigger but haven't had the chance to do that yet. (I hear some more triggers may surface later this month.)
Used the Wheeler to get the SRO close. Took less than ten rounds of 124 Lawman to get a reasonable zero. Shot this ten shot group freestyle at 20 yards.
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Then I shot ten rounds of Underwood 147+P hard cast at 20 yards. Probably close enough in POI.
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Shot ten more rounds of Underwood and no issues.
Shot another ten rounds of Lawman at 20 yards.
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Especially given I was shooting Lawman, I thought the 47 was soft shooting. I shot some doubles and saw some .16/.17 splits which is fast for me with a Glock and a stock trigger. Really looking forward to putting the OEM Performance trigger in.
You notice a difference between it and a 17? I don’t have enough time behind a 17 to have ever “gotten use to” one so I have a fairly strong preference for the 45&47…I mean, it doesn’t really matter but…there’s something to them right?
You notice a difference between it and a 17? I don’t have enough time behind a 17 to have ever “gotten use to” one so I have a fairly strong preference for the 45&47…I mean, it doesn’t really matter but…there’s something to them right?
YVK asked me the same question earlier, and my answer was "I don't know." I have a G5 17 with an SRO out to compare, and hope to get to that next week. Subjectively, the 47 with Lawman didn't feel much different than the Lawman in a 19 with a Mayhem comp.
I put my Performance trigger in the 47 tonight.
maximus83
03-09-2023, 10:40 PM
I finally got a 47 MOS earlier this week.
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That is some darned impressive shooting, 25y freestyle with an essentially OEM Glock and some decent training ammo. Kind of sets the standard for what's possible with an OEM Glock.
Related Q: What is likely to shoot flatter--a comped 45, or the OEM 47?
Related Q: What is likely to shoot flatter--a comped 45, or the OEM 47?
If I had to bet, the shorter 19 slide and comp should be flatter. However the 47 is flat shooting. I took this screenshot from the video I did slow firing, and I generally don't grip as hard when shooting grips. Tried to pick max rise of the muzzle.
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My wife filmed me shooting my second 20 yard, ten round group with Lawman -- kind of boring to watch. Slightly stressful shooting a group being filmed.
https://youtu.be/W096YnYoj7c
I finally got a 47 MOS earlier this week. Put an SRO on, with a Forward Controls plate, Ameriglo .315 (front) BUIS, an extended OEM mag release, 5 pound striker spring and brass CHPWS plug. Wanted to drop in the Glock Performance trigger but haven't had the chance to do that yet. (I hear some more triggers may surface later this month.)
Used the Wheeler to get the SRO close. Took less than ten rounds of 124 Lawman to get a reasonable zero. Shot this ten shot group freestyle at 20 yards.
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Then I shot ten rounds of Underwood 147+P hard cast at 20 yards. Probably close enough in POI.
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Shot ten more rounds of Underwood and no issues.
Shot another ten rounds of Lawman at 20 yards.
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Especially given I was shooting Lawman, I thought the 47 was soft shooting. I shot some doubles and saw some .16/.17 splits which is fast for me with a Glock and a stock trigger. Really looking forward to putting the OEM Performance trigger in.
Nice shooting GJM, have you shot it anymore and have any further impressions?
Thinking of picking one up to add a full-size gen 5. I like that I can mix and match parts with my other gen 5 guns(g19s,g45)
On another note I am kinda surprised there are not more reports from others after all the initial talking about it.
Nice shooting GJM, have you shot it anymore and have any further impressions?
Thinking of picking one up to add a full-size gen 5. I like that I can mix and match parts with my other gen 5 guns(g19s,g45)
On another note I am kinda surprised there are not more reports from others after all the initial talking about it.
For interchangeability reasons, I would also go 47 over a 17.
Any word on if/when Glock is doing direct mill on the 47 the way they have for the 45 (albeit in LE SKUs)? Thinking a 47mos7 (acro) would be pretty nice.
Any word on if/when Glock is doing direct mill on the 47 the way they have for the 45 (albeit in LE SKUs)? Thinking a 47mos7 (acro) would be pretty nice.
When a big enough agency asks for them. Because/money.
Tokarev
04-04-2023, 05:06 AM
https://youtu.be/LcM660XhV4M
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Tokarev
04-27-2023, 01:34 PM
This gun seems to have sort of dropped off the radar. I guess everyone wanted one when they were unobtainium but now that they're a cataloged item we're all "merf" about them. Or maybe it is simply that there are arguably some more interesting guns to talk about...
https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/review-glock-47-mos/
Tokarev
04-27-2023, 01:35 PM
https://www.americanrifleman.org/media/tjqnyd1n/glock-47-mos-1920x1320.jpg?width=1920&height=1320
I just spent half my practice session shooting a 47 with a 509T, and it is one of my favorite Glocks, suitable for carry and competition.
Crusader
04-27-2023, 02:06 PM
Think this will be my next Glock, think I’d much rather have it than a 17 MOS. I already have a Gen 5 19, why not the 47 will also give me a 45. Win win
Coal Train
04-27-2023, 03:43 PM
I have a Gen 5 17, 19, 45, and 19X. I prefer the 17 and plan to pick up an MOS version to try a red dot (again). Other than parts compatibility/interchangeability, is there a reason to go 47 over a 17?
The 47 looks a bit odd but I suppose that doesn’t really matter.
I have a Gen 5 17, 19, 45, and 19X. I prefer the 17 and plan to pick up an MOS version to try a red dot (again). Other than parts compatibility/interchangeability, is there a reason to go 47 over a 17?
The 47 looks a bit odd but I suppose that doesn’t really matter.
I believe that Glock announced they have discontinued the 17 MOS in favor of the 47 MOS. The non MOS 17 is still available.
Crusader
04-27-2023, 04:49 PM
I believe that Glock announced they have discontinued the 17 MOS in favor of the 47 MOS. The non MOS 17 is still available.
Well that certainly simplifies the decision.
Coal Train
04-27-2023, 05:06 PM
I believe that Glock announced they have discontinued the 17 MOS in favor of the 47 MOS. The non MOS 17 is still available.
Well that explains why I can’t seem to find a 17 MOS!
Tokarev
04-27-2023, 05:20 PM
Well that certainly simplifies the decision.
Well that explains why I can’t seem to find a 17 MOS!
GT Distributors had LE trade-in 17s for about $400 not too long ago. It might be worth a call to see if any are MOS.
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spyderco monkey
04-27-2023, 10:07 PM
Interesting thing I noticed about the G47 is that its closer in weight to the G34 than the G45 or G17.
Weights without mag per Glock website:
G45 MOS: 616 grams
G17 MOS: 625 grams
G47 MOS: 658 grams
G34 MOS: 665 grams
There's hardly any difference (9 grams) weight difference between the G45 / G17. Thats about the weight difference of adding steel sights, for those who thought the G45 has less reciprocating mass.
Yet for some reason the G47, essentially a G17 slide on a G45 frame, is +33g/1.16oz heavier then the G17, and +42g/1.48oz over the G45.
It's only 7grams lighter than the G34.
Not sure what this means, if anything. But I'm curious whether this was Glock deliberately adding weight to the G47, or simply a byproduct of the long slide / short guide rod design?
GlockenSpiel
04-27-2023, 10:46 PM
I've seen people say that the end of the slide that holds the recoil spring had more material intentionally added on the 48/48 to strengthen it. The idea is the "ring" that serves that purpose on the guns with flush dust covers has been larger and thinner since they went to double recoil springs, and can bend if dropped. Whether that is true, or the more obvious fact that you need to have something on the slide cover that area now (and you're replacing that polymer with steel) I'm not certain.
Interesting thing I noticed about the G47 is that its closer in weight to the G34 than the G45 or G17.
Weights without mag per Glock website:
G45 MOS: 616 grams
G17 MOS: 625 grams
G47 MOS: 658 grams
G34 MOS: 665 grams
There's hardly any difference (9 grams) weight difference between the G45 / G17. Thats about the weight difference of adding steel sights, for those who thought the G45 has less reciprocating mass.
Yet for some reason the G47, essentially a G17 slide on a G45 frame, is +33g/1.16oz heavier then the G17, and +42g/1.48oz over the G45.
It's only 7grams lighter than the G34.
Not sure what this means, if anything. But I'm curious whether this was Glock deliberately adding weight to the G47, or simply a byproduct of the long slide / short guide rod design?
We probably need to weigh each slide, rather than rely on the website, because something as simple as a polymer versus steel optic cover, could make a big difference.
awp_101
04-30-2023, 07:20 PM
This gun seems to have sort of dropped off the radar. I guess everyone wanted one when they were unobtainium but now that they're a cataloged item we're all "merf" about them.
Not being a Glock guy, they weren't on my radar at all until last week and now I'm...curious. It's not quite HCM's "the realization Glock is better meme" but I do see a certain utility in having 1 or 2 around.
Today I was reminded a 19.4 grip is either just a bit to short for me to get my complete hand on the grip or the finger grooves aren't placed right for my hand. The bottom of the frame hits the center of my pinky so if I don't pay attention the bottom of my finger gets trapped between the frame and mag floorplate during recoil. Not really painful but certainly distracting and attention getting.
Does the lack of finger grooves on the Gen 5 pistols seem to be a step forward or back? I'll try and handle a 19.5 soon™ and if it fits my hand better the 19.4, I could see the benefit of having a 19.5 and 47. My EDC is already covered so these would NOT be for carry. With that in mind, is there anything gained by having a 45 and 47 or would a pair of 47s make more sense?
mizer67
04-30-2023, 07:46 PM
Not being a Glock guy, they weren't on my radar at all until last week and now I'm...curious. It's not quite HCM's "the realization Glock is better meme" but I do see a certain utility in having 1 or 2 around.
Today I was reminded a 19.4 grip is either just a bit to short for me to get my complete hand on the grip or the finger grooves aren't placed right for my hand. The bottom of the frame hits the center of my pinky so if I don't pay attention the bottom of my finger gets trapped between the frame and mag floorplate during recoil. Not really painful but certainly distracting and attention getting.
Does the lack of finger grooves on the Gen 5 pistols seem to be a step forward or back? I'll try and handle a 19.5 soon™ and if it fits my hand better the 19.4, I could see the benefit of having a 19.5 and 47. My EDC is already covered so these would NOT be for carry. With that in mind, is there anything gained by having a 45 and 47 or would a pair of 47s make more sense?
I have the same experience with G19.4's mostly. The grip is just a bit too short for my XL sized hands to fit comfortably. I also very easily get blood blisters reloading G19's. Last, the finger grooves especially crowd my 2nd knuckle as well, meaning I really feel trigger guard and "Glock knuckle", moreso than with a G17.4.
My verdict: removing the finger grooves helps in this regard.
I swapped one of my G19.4s for a G19.5 and in combination with the LT Grip Anchor, I find the grip just enough that I don't mind shooting it and have gone back to carrying a G19 in most circumstances vs. one of the slim line Glocks. The Grip anchor helps with the blood blisters on reloads as well.
I'm in the process of selling off my Gen 4's and buying Gen 5's. Not only are the Gen 5's more accurate out of the box, I'm left handed so I pick up the right side slide release so to me they're a worthwhile upgrade. I do feel the full size grip benefits from the finger grooves with my particular anatomy and locks the grip in place slightly better, but overall prefer the other features of the Gen 5's.
M2CattleCo
04-30-2023, 11:10 PM
I've seen people say that the end of the slide that holds the recoil spring had more material intentionally added on the 48/48 to strengthen it. The idea is the "ring" that serves that purpose on the guns with flush dust covers has been larger and thinner since they went to double recoil springs, and can bend if dropped. Whether that is true, or the more obvious fact that you need to have something on the slide cover that area now (and you're replacing that polymer with steel) I'm not certain.
That long recoil spring tunnel dates all the way back to the Gen1 17L.
fatdog
05-01-2023, 09:59 AM
Does the lack of finger grooves on the Gen 5 pistols seem to be a step forward or back?
Depends entirely on your hand and your fingers.
The finger grooves never worked for me, so much so that I either had them removed on my Gen 3-4 guns or reverted to Gen 2 guns. I could not get a satisfactory grip with them in place.
I have an XL glove sized hand with much thinner than average fingers. The finger grooves actually did a very effective job of forcing my fingers to separate. The opposite of what you want in a grip.
There are many others, I think GJM is one, who find them quite satisfactory and may even prefer them.
HeavyDuty
05-01-2023, 10:53 AM
Nearly 30 pages of discussion on Glock’s 30th version of the same pistol. Oh wow, the dust cover is a different length! Now I can buy two guns to make one mediocre one! Awesome!
We should have a separate forum for all you old men and your Glocks.
You certainly are tiresome.
steve
05-01-2023, 11:27 AM
Nearly 30 pages of discussion on Glock’s 30th version of the same pistol. Oh wow, the dust cover is a different length! Now I can buy two guns to make one mediocre one! Awesome!
We should have a separate forum for all you old men and your Glocks.
What is as reliable at the same cost? I will wait for your professional insight.
Nearly 30 pages of discussion on Glock’s 30th version of the same pistol. Oh wow, the dust cover is a different length! Now I can buy two guns to make one mediocre one! Awesome!
We should have a separate forum for all you old men and your Glocks.
Many of the people here, young and old have the credentials and moreover, the experience from being in the field.
For someone who works at a gun store and offers no useful information, heres your chance so please, enlighten us with your wisdom.
Moreover, to add credibility to your perspective, do you have anything to show the platforms you have experience with or how well you shoot them? Or does none exist?
awp_101
05-01-2023, 12:35 PM
DFTFT
Nephrology
05-01-2023, 03:09 PM
What is as reliable at the same cost? I will wait for your professional insight.
To be honest I am incredibly uninterested in his 'professional' 'insight'
LittleLebowski
05-01-2023, 03:24 PM
That’s fucking it, mcgivro. Fucking gun shop employee trying to pass yourself off an industry professional and all you do is beclown yourself. Bye.
HeavyDuty
05-01-2023, 04:08 PM
That’s fucking it, mcgivro. Fucking gun shop employee trying to pass yourself off an industry professional and all you do is beclown yourself. Bye.
I love you, man.
Mark D
05-01-2023, 04:18 PM
That’s fucking it, @mcgivro (https://pistol-forum.com/member.php?u=21984). Fucking gun shop employee trying to pass yourself off an industry professional and all you do is beclown yourself. Bye.
Nicely done, LL.
Coal Train
05-01-2023, 05:24 PM
All you do is beclown yourself.
With apologies Dude, I am 100% stealing this phrase.
awp_101
05-01-2023, 05:35 PM
https://youtu.be/VoJdb1TLLJQ
I was pretty sure that man has never shot a gun, let alone touch one.
Oh well, nothing of value was lost.
Whiskey_Bravo
05-01-2023, 09:56 PM
Our department is finally looking to ditch our Gen 4 21s and make the transition to 9mm. The decision is finally being entertained due to Glock offering us new guns for almost less than the cost of replacing all the springs and worn night sights on our current guns.
Sounds like it may come down to an individual choice of the 19 or a 45/47. I was all in on a 45 originally, especially a factory ACRO milled one. However the 47 is growing on me. The 17 is a long time favorite of mine. The gun would be carried in a duty rig with a light and hopefully a red dot mounted at all times. Makes concealment pretty much a non factor.
jandbj
05-02-2023, 04:33 PM
Our department is finally looking to ditch our Gen 4 21s and make the transition to 9mm. The decision is finally being entertained due to Glock offering us new guns for almost less than the cost of replacing all the springs and worn night sights on our current guns.
Sounds like it may come down to an individual choice of the 19 or a 45/47. I was all in on a 45 originally, especially a factory ACRO milled one. However the 47 is growing on me. The 17 is a long time favorite of mine. The gun would be carried in a duty rig with a light and hopefully a red dot mounted at all times. Makes concealment pretty much a non factor.
They’re doing the direct milled ACRO pkg on the 47 as well now. Same price as the 45 pkg.
Tokarev
05-02-2023, 07:56 PM
They’re doing the direct milled ACRO
I believe also the 509T and RMR.
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jandbj
05-02-2023, 08:29 PM
I believe also the 509T and RMR.
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Likely all of the pkg options. ACRO is the only one I’ve seen confirmed on the price list thus far. Saw the G47/ACRO combo in the flesh at NYTOA last week.
awp_101
05-03-2023, 07:15 AM
I have not read through the whole thread but it seems the major differences between the 47 and the 17.5 are the MOS (once the 17.5MOS goes away) and the 47 using the 19 RSA, correct?
If that’s the case and one is MOS agnostic (or planning to go direct mill), there’s no significant benefit to the 47 UNLESS you’re also running a 19 or are an institutional user. Or you just want the admittedly cool looking slide. :cool:
Is that about the size of it?
Has a consensus been reached regarding the recoil characteristics of the G47 vs G17 ?
Interesting thing I noticed about the G47 is that its closer in weight to the G34 than the G45 or G17.
Weights without mag per Glock website:
G45 MOS: 616 grams
G17 MOS: 625 grams
G47 MOS: 658 grams
G34 MOS: 665 grams
There's hardly any difference (9 grams) weight difference between the G45 / G17. Thats about the weight difference of adding steel sights, for those who thought the G45 has less reciprocating mass.
Yet for some reason the G47, essentially a G17 slide on a G45 frame, is +33g/1.16oz heavier then the G17, and +42g/1.48oz over the G45.
It's only 7grams lighter than the G34.
Not sure what this means, if anything. But I'm curious whether this was Glock deliberately adding weight to the G47, or simply a byproduct of the long slide / short guide rod design?
Just weighed a new 47 slide and an older Gen 5 34 slide in the same condition -- no barrel or RSA, the slide without an optic plate or the cover, but with the OEM sights.
47 is 11.20 ounces
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34 is 11.45 ounces
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I don't have a bare 19 or 17 MOS to weigh.
spyderco monkey
05-05-2023, 08:57 PM
Just weighed a new 47 slide and an older Gen 5 34 slide in the same condition -- no barrel or RSA, the slide without an optic plate or the cover, but with the OEM sights.
47 is 11.20 ounces
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34 is 11.45 ounces
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I don't have a bare 19 or 17 MOS to weigh.
Awesome, thanks man.
47 = 317.5g
34 = 324.6g
--> 7.1g difference in weight
So Glock was basically right on the money with their weight specs.
Quite surprising it's so close in weight to the G34.
I wonder how this effects recoil impulse or reliability vs the G17, if at all?
We haven’t really seen any reliability issues with ours…it’s only been a couple years now with them but I haven’t heard of anyone needing to swap one out because it isn’t working. One of my ATV guys had a heavy trigger at a Qual a few weeks ago, a drop of oil on the connector fixed it right up…there was…a lot of dirt and dust everywhere inside the gun. Shot just fine but…trigger was less than ideal.
TheNewbie
05-06-2023, 08:51 AM
We haven’t really seen any reliability issues with ours…it’s only been a couple years now with them but I haven’t heard of anyone needing to swap one out because it isn’t working. One of my ATV guys had a heavy trigger at a Qual a few weeks ago, a drop of oil on the connector fixed it right up…there was…a lot of dirt and dust everywhere inside the gun. Shot just fine but…trigger was less than ideal.
How did the P2000 act under those same conditions?
They got just as dirty for sure but I wasn’t an FI when we had them so no frame of reference for seeing them daily being shot straight from the field. I never had an issue with my P2000 trigger but I’ve also not had an issue with my G47 trigger and have gotten both just as dirty. Our ATV guys gets stuff a whole other level of dusty though…Tokarev would have much more insight.
At the risk of imagining things, or being flat wrong, after some time shooting the Glock 47, I really like it.
What I have always liked about the Glock 34 is how soft it shoots. What I have not liked about the 34 is it seems more sensitive to ammo, needing higher power factor loads than the 17 and 19, and I have felt like the slide doesn't cycle as well as a 19. My favorite Glock was always a 19 with a carry comp as that gives you a soft shooting but flat cycling slide that fits into the slide length of a 17. Comparing the 19 with a comp to the 47, the 47 seems to shoot flat like a 19 but soft like a 34. This may be because of the extra mass in the 47 slide compared to a 17, nearly 34 weight, and maybe even something to do with the 19 length RSA. In any event, the 47 is easily my favorite shooting non-compensated 9mm Glock, and the Glock I would pick to shoot carry optics division with.
From my limited experience with Glocks (other than a Gen 2 G19 many years ago I’ve only been shooting Gen 5 Glocks since 2020), I’ve come to the same conclusion as GJM. That being said I’ve never had a G34, but I’ve had every other Gen 5 variant. There is something about the G47 that works…it shoots softer and flatter than any other one in my hands except for my Mayhem comped G45.
ST911
05-07-2023, 06:27 PM
This may be because of the extra mass in the 47 slide compared to a 17, nearly 34 weight, and maybe even something to do with the 19 length RSA. In any event, the 47 is easily my favorite shooting non-compensated 9mm Glock, and the Glock I would pick to shoot carry optics division with.
There is something about the G47 that works…it shoots softer and flatter than any other one in my hands except for my Mayhem comped G45.
There is something about the 47 that defies description. It's not a 17, 45, or 19...something else.
Other thing I've noticed: Mine throw brass harder and farther than anything else, including others with the breechface cut.
spyderco monkey
05-08-2023, 12:30 AM
At the risk of imagining things, or being flat wrong, after some time shooting the Glock 47, I really like it.
What I have always liked about the Glock 34 is how soft it shoots. What I have not liked about the 34 is it seems more sensitive to ammo, needing higher power factor loads than the 17 and 19, and I have felt like the slide doesn't cycle as well as a 19. My favorite Glock was always a 19 with a carry comp as that gives you a soft shooting but flat cycling slide that fits into the slide length of a 17. Comparing the 19 with a comp to the 47, the 47 seems to shoot flat like a 19 but soft like a 34. This may be because of the extra mass in the 47 slide compared to a 17, nearly 34 weight, and maybe even something to do with the 19 length RSA. In any event, the 47 is easily my favorite shooting non-compensated 9mm Glock, and the Glock I would pick to shoot carry optics division with.
In terms of weight and its effect on recoil, the weight increase of the G47 vs the G17/G45 is about the weight increase of a RMR.
Has anyone noticed any change in recoil characteristics for RMR/RDS VS Irons?
In terms of weight and its effect on recoil, the weight increase of the G47 vs the G17/G45 is about the weight increase of a RMR.
Has anyone noticed any change in recoil characteristics for RMR/RDS VS Irons?
To the extent it is weight, the extra weight of the 47 is all forward, as can be seen by this picture of a 47 and 17 slide.
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Exiledviking
05-08-2023, 03:36 PM
I just picked up lightly used G47 MOS slide to try on G45 and G19.5 frames. I'm looking at the CHPWS MOS sights. Do they need to be fitted like Dawson sights or can they just be pushed in like Trijicon sights?
Also, if setting it up for a Carry Optic pistol which optic would you use?
I just picked up lightly used G47 MOS slide to try on G45 and G19.5 frames. I'm looking at the CHPWS MOS sights. Do they need to be fitted like Dawson sights or can they just be pushed in like Trijicon sights?
Also, if setting it up for a Carry Optic pistol which optic would you use?
They push on like a Trijicon rear.
SRO is the most popular CO optic for a Glock. I hope the soon to release Holosun 507 Comp optic will be better and less expensive. I have a 509T on one 47, a 407 CO on another and soon will be trying a Romeo 2.
I’ve been messing around shooting CO for the past couple months using a G47 with a SRO on it…IMO it’s about as good as it gets for a Glock based setup. Irons are the same Ameriglo sights I use with the P2 on an Glock and give about the same lower 1/4 sight picture. 104508
Exiledviking
05-09-2023, 12:12 PM
TCB Which specific model of AmeriGlo sight are you using with the SRO?
Ameriglo GL-429 set for both ACRO (on a B&T plate) & Trijicon SRO (on a FCD plate) (.315 F / .394 R). Just enough peeks over the bottom of the window on both optics to make a shot.
Crusader
05-09-2023, 02:02 PM
I’m thinking about picking up a 47, but I have this nagging thought in my head saying…why not try a Shadow System instead.
Not a work gun, retired so that doesn’t apply. Anyone have any thoughts on this, own both, pros and cons.
I’m thinking about picking up a 47, but I have this nagging thought in my head saying…why not try a Shadow System instead.
Not a work gun, retired so that doesn’t apply. Anyone have any thoughts on this, own both, pros and cons.
The 47 is possibly the penultimate Glock in terms of performance, reliability and design. The Shadow guns of late have not been the best Shadow System pistols made. The availability of the Glock performance trigger is just icing on the cake.
CalAlumnus
05-09-2023, 02:35 PM
The 47 is possibly the penultimate Glock in terms of performance, reliability and design. The Shadow guns of late have not been the best Shadow System pistols made. The availability of the Glock performance trigger is just icing on the cake.
What do you mean by “penultimate?” Which Glock is the “ultimate”—the 19?
Le Français
05-09-2023, 02:37 PM
What do you mean by “penultimate?” Which Glock is the “ultimate”—the 19?
The ultimate Glock is the 26. I'll have to try one of these penultimate 47s sometime.
M2CattleCo
05-09-2023, 09:57 PM
What do you mean by “penultimate?” Which Glock is the “ultimate”—the 19?
17 obviously. Since the 47 is the closest thing that’s not actually a 17.
SwampDweller
05-10-2023, 06:50 AM
I’m thinking about picking up a 47, but I have this nagging thought in my head saying…why not try a Shadow System instead.
Not a work gun, retired so that doesn’t apply. Anyone have any thoughts on this, own both, pros and cons.
It seems like any time I hear anything on Shadow Systems guns is in the hands of end users and it has to do with them experiencing reliability problems.
spyderco monkey
05-10-2023, 07:58 AM
Has anyone tried shooting the 47 slide on the 19 frame, ala G19L / rumored G49?
Curious how that shoots vs the 47 or a 19 with the Ramjet comp. Wondering whether it makes sense to get a 47 + a G19 frame as a sort of 1.5 pistols setup.
https://i.redd.it/yahfu10qfkx81.jpg
Has anyone tried shooting the 47 slide on the 19 frame, ala G19L / rumored G49?
Curious how that shoots vs the 47 or a 19 with the Ramjet comp. Wondering whether it makes sense to get a 47 + a G19 frame as a sort of 1.5 pistols setup.
https://i.redd.it/yahfu10qfkx81.jpg
I plan to do that soon. Anecdotally, the 47 feels about like a 19 with a Mayhem comp.
Exiledviking
05-10-2023, 01:04 PM
I plan to do that soon. Anecdotally, the 47 feels about like a 19 with a Mayhem comp.Looking forward to hearing what you think about that configuration as I've thought about doing the same.
It seems like any time I hear anything on Shadow Systems guns is in the hands of end users and it has to do with them experiencing reliability problems.
Or accuracy problems.
Tokarev
05-10-2023, 03:20 PM
It seems like any time I hear anything on Shadow Systems guns is in the hands of end users and it has to do with them experiencing reliability problems.I have several Shadow Systems handguns. All have been perfectly acceptable.
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maximus83
05-10-2023, 08:00 PM
The 47 is possibly the penultimate Glock in terms of performance, reliability and design. The Shadow guns of late have not been the best Shadow System pistols made. The availability of the Glock performance trigger is just icing on the cake.
The new Glock-A-Toe: G47 + GPT + SRO. A match made in heaven. :cool:
The new Glock-A-Toe: G47 + GPT + SRO. A match made in heaven. :cool:
I am not a fan of the SRO, but like the rest.
After shooting rifles this afternoon, I dropped a 47 upper on a 19 lower, and fired ten shots at a two inch square. I liked the combination.
https://youtu.be/SE9vnvC48No
It seems like any time I hear anything on Shadow Systems guns is in the hands of end users and it has to do with them experiencing reliability problems.
Or accuracy problems.
I really wanted to like the shadow systems guns. Their frame feels like the the perfect version of a Gen 3 type Glock for me. I also really liked their mounting solution for their compensator models.
Unfortunately I’ve seen both reliability and accuracy issues in multiple examples. Every one can occasionally turn out a lemon but 1) IME the lemons out number the functional guns; and 2) the way they handled the issues with was to deny there was any issue and claim the accuracy issue was due to ammo and / or shooter incompetence. This despite three of these guns (the ones with accuracy issues) being shot with factory ammo by a USPSA GM who is a full time firearms instructor. Same ammo / shooter had no issues out of a Glock.
They seem to have taken “you suck and we hate you” customer service to a new level.
YMMV
Sensei
05-11-2023, 04:52 PM
The new Glock-A-Toe: G47 + GPT + SRO. A match made in heaven. :cool:
No GPT yet but the SRO was installed this afternoon…
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I just read that BJ Norris shot a G47 winning CO and Production at the 2023 Steel Challenge World Speed Shoot.
Tokarev
05-13-2023, 11:23 AM
I just read that BJ Norris shot a G47 winning CO and Production at the 2023 Steel Challenge World Speed Shoot.Does this surprise anyone?
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Does this surprise anyone?
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Surprised me that he switched from a 17.
El Cid
05-13-2023, 01:39 PM
I just read that BJ Norris shot a G47 winning CO and Production at the 2023 Steel Challenge World Speed Shoot.
And based on the USPSA email I got today, he used it to set a bunch of new world records.
Tokarev
05-13-2023, 02:58 PM
Surprised me that he switched from a 17.Well, he does work for the U.S. Border Patrol.
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Well, he does work for the U.S. Border Patrol.
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Do you think the reigning world steel challenge champion, would pick a pistol that he thought was an inferior choice, because he was issued one?
Do you think the reigning world steel challenge champion, would pick a pistol that he thought was an inferior choice, because he was issued one?
Inferior probably not but comparable ?
If you could get paid to shoot ammo you don’t have to pay for out of a comparable pistol why wouldn’t you ?
Sensei
05-13-2023, 06:58 PM
Do you think the reigning world steel challenge champion, would pick a pistol that he thought was an inferior choice, because he was issued one?
I think that he’s in the same boat as you…his wife get’s first dibs, and he gets whatever is left over. ;)
Crusader
05-15-2023, 12:38 PM
Ok I’m over the Shadow System flirtation, back to the 47. But I’m going to not so patiently wait and hope a OD model is released soon.
Exiledviking
05-27-2023, 05:29 PM
Living in California, it's not fiscally responsible for most of us to buy a G47 as they're sitting around $1500 on the secondary market. So, I brought a very lightly used G47 MOS slide to use on my G45 MOS. I'm waiting on Holosun to release the 507Comp so in the meantime I put some spare iron sights on the 47 slide and shot it today, switching between the 45 and 47 slides. I zeroed the EPS 6 MOA and BUIS on the 45 and then zeroed the iron sights on the 47. The 47 is definitely softer shooting, but it seems to launch brass just as energetically as the 45. I had to hit the rear sight with the excellent Wyoming Sight Drifter only a couple of times to zero but I was very pleasantly surprised to see this final group at 25 considering it's a stock G45 trigger and iron sights. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230527/d039b67c06d6da07b43343ea0b37aafc.jpg
ECVMatt
05-28-2023, 10:56 PM
Living in California, it's not fiscally responsible for most of us to buy a G47 as they're sitting around $1500 on the secondary market. So, I brought a very lightly used G47 MOS slide to use on my G45 MOS. I'm waiting on Holosun to release the 507Comp so in the meantime I put some spare iron sights on the 47 slide and shot it today, switching between the 45 and 47 slides. I zeroed the EPS 6 MOA and BUIS on the 45 and then zeroed the iron sights on the 47. The 47 is definitely softer shooting, but it seems to launch brass just as energetically as the 45. I had to hit the rear sight with the excellent Wyoming Sight Drifter only a couple of times to zero but I was very pleasantly surprised to see this final group at 25 considering it's a stock G45 trigger and iron sights. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230527/d039b67c06d6da07b43343ea0b37aafc.jpg
That is a great solution! I live in CA as well and have a G5 19 and 45. I did not even think about adding a 47 slide to the mix.
Would it be possible to PM and let me know where you picked the slide up from if it was a commercial site?
Thanks so much,
Matt
In September my work gun is changing from 17 gen 4, to a 47 with RMR. I'm wondering what attachment method, MOS plate or direct mill. I'm betting MOS plate is cheaper?
Eitherway I'm looking forward to it. It'll be first forray into gen 5s, and handgun RDS.
WobblyPossum
05-29-2023, 09:04 AM
In September my work gun is changing from 17 gen 4, to a 47 with RMR. I'm wondering what attachment method, MOS plate or direct mill. I'm betting MOS plate is cheaper?
Eitherway I'm looking forward to it. It'll be first forray into gen 5s, and handgun RDS.
Glock does offer a direct RMR cut slide to certain consumer markets but I haven’t seen any G47s that were direct milled, only MOS.
In September my work gun is changing from 17 gen 4, to a 47 with RMR. I'm wondering what attachment method, MOS plate or direct mill. I'm betting MOS plate is cheaper?
Eitherway I'm looking forward to it. It'll be first forray into gen 5s, and handgun RDS.
Hope it’s MOS so y’all can upgrade optics later. RMRs are ok but a bit … dated and a logistical/ maintenance burden for any but the smallest agencies.
Hope it’s MOS so y’all can upgrade optics later. RMRs are ok but a bit … dated and a logistical/ maintenance burden for any but the smallest agencies.
I suppose we'll see.
I'm looking forward to learning RDS on their dime. If you were picking, what's your choice for the 47? I might try to duplicate the work gun but curious of your preference in dot.
I suppose we'll see.
I'm looking forward to learning RDS on their dime. If you were picking, what's your choice for the 47? I might try to duplicate the work gun but curious of your preference in dot.
The first thing I would want something that doesn’t require dismounting the optic to change the battery.
Second, I probably want a closed emitter.
I’d be OK with any of these three depending on with the budget could handle:
ACRO P2
Steiner MPS
Holosun 509T
If going MOS I would NOT use the Glock factory plates.
FCD would be my first choice in plates right now.
The B&T made plates sold by Aimpoint are good too IME..
C&H would be 3rd behind those two.
If you go with the Steiner the Apex super claw is worth the $20. Basically a replacement clamp for the MPS with a longer “tongue” which proves more engagement area in the dovetail of the ACRO mounts.
I’d want plain BUIS that were 1/4 to 1/3 co witness max. If the BUIS is too tall and takes up too much of the window it makes it harder to use the optic. The optic provides night site/low light capability, and I personally find having both a dot and three glowing dots from night sights distracting in low light.
As much as I personally love the SRO, the mounting and battery cap are not “cop proof” enough for general issue in my experience.
I put a 509T on my edc 47, and used the steel Holosun adapter plate.
In September my work gun is changing from 17 gen 4, to a 47 with RMR. I'm wondering what attachment method, MOS plate or direct mill. I'm betting MOS plate is cheaper?
Eitherway I'm looking forward to it. It'll be first forray into gen 5s, and handgun RDS.
The 47 only comes in MOS
The 47 only comes in MOS
Not sure that's accurate for agency purchasing. I spoke with a regional LE sales rep 2 weeks ago who advised the 47 was available with the same direct mill/optics packages as the 45. He did say this was agency purchase only- IOP/Blue label was still only MOS/plates.
EDIT- Agency pricing on the direct mill/optics packages is pretty attractive- lower than the sum of agency prices for a MOS pistol, quality plate, optic, and appropriate BUIS. Also reportedly the quickest/easiest way to actually get a P2.
jellydonut
05-31-2023, 02:08 AM
Not sure that's accurate for agency purchasing. I spoke with a regional LE sales rep 2 weeks ago who advised the 47 was available with the same direct mill/optics packages as the 45. He did say this was agency purchase only- IOP/Blue label was still only MOS/plates.
EDIT- Agency pricing on the direct mill/optics packages is pretty attractive- lower than the sum of agency prices for a MOS pistol, quality plate, optic, and appropriate BUIS. Also reportedly the quickest/easiest way to actually get a P2.
For real? How far could we be from Glock offering a direct mill Acro option to the general market?
I think I'll cease buying more Glocks before this turns out.
For real? How far could we be from Glock offering a direct mill Acro option to the general market?
I think I'll cease buying more Glocks before this turns out.
This is Glock we’re talking about.
Could be never… or Lipsey’s could announce a limited run of 5000 tomorrow.
For real? How far could we be from Glock offering a direct mill Acro option to the general market?
I think I'll cease buying more Glocks before this turns out.
It's been a thing for agency purchasing with the G45 for the better part of a year or so. They have a number of options for direct mill with factory mounted optics- RMR, SRO, 508T, 509T, ACRO.
tusk212
05-31-2023, 10:36 AM
It's been a thing for agency purchasing with the G45 for the better part of a year or so. They have a number of options for direct mill with factory mounted optics- RMR, SRO, 508T, 509T, ACRO.
Tactical Life did an article about the direct milled options for agencies and included this photo. https://i0.wp.com/www.tactical-life.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2022/08/direct-mill-Glocks.png?ssl=1
maximus83
06-03-2023, 04:31 PM
Man GJM keeps costing me $$$. :p
Picked up a G47, compared it to my G45 over 400 rounds and two range sessions. Liked the handling/shooting of the 47 enough better that I decided to keep it. With my G19.5's having LTT grip anchors, I can see a case now where a G47 is *maybe* a better complement to a G19. Unless you just want the longer grip of the G45, don't care about slide length, and still want to retain holster compatibility with your G19's. But since I liked shooting the G47 somewhat better than the 45, it was enough to change my mind.
First time out with the G47, with OEM setup and sights:
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The G47 with EPS Carry, mounted on Calculated Kinetics Dogtag plate (https://www.calculatedkinetics.us/collections/gun-accessories/products/glock-mos-optic-plate-law-enforcement), with Ameriglo GL-455 sights, and GPT trigger installed. Look forward to wringing this out next range trip, potentially the new Glock-a-Toe.
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Haven't mastered the patience for lining up pics of red dots with sights yet, but here's a rough view of the GL-455's with RDS. If you line up the BUIS, it's about a lower 1/4 or 1/5th of the window, which works for me but wouldn't want them to be any lower or they'd be hard to pick up. To me, the GL-455's didn't seem like the "lower 1/3 co-witness on any Glock MOS" as suggested on the CK page (https://www.calculatedkinetics.us/collections/sights/products/ameriglo-glock-mos-to-rmr-sights) for the sights, they're a bit lower than that. But that seems like what many here prefer.
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steve
06-04-2023, 04:23 PM
Man GJM keeps costing me $$$. :p
Picked up a G47, compared it to my G45 over 400 rounds and two range sessions. Liked the handling/shooting of the 47 enough better that I decided to keep it. With my G19.5's having LTT grip anchors, I can see a case now where a G47 is *maybe* a better complement to a G19. Unless you just want the longer grip of the G45, don't care about slide length, and still want to retain holster compatibility with your G19's. But since I liked shooting the G47 somewhat better than the 45, it was enough to change my mind.
First time out with the G47, with OEM setup and sights:
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The G47 with EPS Carry, mounted on Calculated Kinetics Dogtag plate (https://www.calculatedkinetics.us/collections/gun-accessories/products/glock-mos-optic-plate-law-enforcement), with Ameriglo GL-455 sights, and GPT trigger installed. Look forward to wringing this out next range trip, potentially the new Glock-a-Toe.
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Haven't mastered the patience for lining up pics of red dots with sights yet, but here's a rough view of the GL-455's with RDS. If you line up the BUIS, it's about a lower 1/4 or 1/5th of the window, which works for me but wouldn't want them to be any lower or they'd be hard to pick up. To me, the GL-455's didn't seem like the "lower 1/3 co-witness on any Glock MOS" as suggested on the CK page (https://www.calculatedkinetics.us/collections/sights/products/ameriglo-glock-mos-to-rmr-sights) for the sights, they're a bit lower than that. But that seems like what many here prefer.
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You don't need a red dot. Very nice shooting.
Norville
06-10-2023, 01:09 PM
Finally put this together and got to the range for a bit. I like it! Acro P2, FCD / TD plate, Glock performance trigger.
47 is my favorite shooting Glock.
I have one with an Apex trigger and the other with the Glock performance trigger, and have come to prefer the Apex because it breaks further forward.
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maximus83
06-10-2023, 04:36 PM
47 is my favorite shooting Glock.
Yep. Just got mine out to the range for the 2nd time, and it was the first time with the EPS as pictured above. Totally a soft, flat-shooting pistol. A G47 set up with GPT and RDS is pretty hard to beat, for a production service pistol. And for the lefties out there: very LH friendly.
Yep. Just got mine out to the range for the 2nd time, and it was the first time with the EPS as pictured above. Totally a soft, flat-shooting pistol. A G47 set up with GPT and RDS is pretty hard to beat, for a production service pistol. And for the lefties out there: very LH friendly.
I've been struck by the same. GJM my favorite shooting as well.
Last Sunday was the first time I've managed to clean the 10-8 headbox standard under 5 sec in some years (back then it was with irons).
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Sammy1
06-11-2023, 08:58 AM
I wish Glock would follow the P320 model and start selling slides individually. Buy a G45 and then a G47 complete slide or vis versa. You'd get people that don't want to buy a whole new gun but would fork over money to buy a slide.
What are you getting out of the 1/4” shorter slide that you would want the G45? Other than being able to do a single port comp and not need more holsters (why I have a couple)? I believe the slides are available if you do some digging…pretty sure I’ve seen them advertised.
Also, I put a performance trigger into one of my G47 that also has a SRO on it…it’s, kinda good.
What are you getting out of the 1/4” shorter slide that you would want the G45? Other than being able to do a single port comp and not need more holsters (why I have a couple)? I believe the slides are available if you do some digging…pretty sure I’ve seen them advertised.
Also, I put a performance trigger into one of my G47 that also has a SRO on it…it’s, kinda good.
I find that my 47 shoots as well or better than a 19 with a Mayhem comp, which was my previous favorite.
Hmmm…I haven’t shot them back to back with dots on them. Might need to do some more experimenting and see if it’s worth keeping the comped guns. I do really like the G45 with the Mayhem as my NV gun.
Hmmm…I haven’t shot them back to back with dots on them. Might need to do some more experimenting and see if it’s worth keeping the comped guns. I do really like the G45 with the Mayhem as my NV gun.
Here is my thinking:
The 47 is significantly less costly than a 19 plus a barrel/comp.
They both fit the same holsters.
The comp'd 19 is quite a bit louder.
The 47 is legal in USPSA CO and LO, where the comp puts you in Open.
The 47 has a bit more velocity.
The comp can easily be removed with the Mayhem, making a 19 length slide if desired.
I am still trying to assess relative reliability with heavy field loads.
Yea, I think if I’d been able to get G47 before already owning G45 & Mayhems I’d probably not bothered messing with comps. I’m carrying a G19 w an extra Mayhem I picked up cheap and an RMR as my off duty gun and it’s a bit better than a plain G19 by a bit but definitely not necessary. I found that the Mayhem really came into its own with the full size grip (G45), makes much more of a difference than with a G19. Have you messed with that configuration? As for a 1 and done do everything full size…G47 would be my choice, from gaming to serious carry, it holds it’s own.
Yea, I think if I’d been able to get G47 before already owning G45 & Mayhems I’d probably not bothered messing with comps. I’m carrying a G19 w an extra Mayhem I picked up cheap and an RMR as my off duty gun and it’s a bit better than a plain G19 by a bit but definitely not necessary. I found that the Mayhem really came into its own with the full size grip (G45), makes much more of a difference than with a G19. Have you messed with that configuration? As for a 1 and done do everything full size…G47 would be my choice, from gaming to serious carry, it holds it’s own.
In the spirit of 2 is 1, and 1 is none, a 19/47 for the win!
littlejerry
06-11-2023, 02:29 PM
Kind of want to try a 47 slide on a 19 frame with the LTT anchor.
Kind of want to try a 47 slide on a 19 frame with the LTT anchor.
Works well on mine.
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Virtuosity Student
06-11-2023, 11:32 PM
Are you guys running G17 holsters or something specific to the G47?
Chuck Whitlock
06-16-2023, 07:40 AM
What are you getting out of the 1/4” shorter slide that you would want the G45? Other than being able to do a single port comp and not need more holsters (why I have a couple)? I believe the slides are available if you do some digging…pretty sure I’ve seen them advertised.
Also, I put a performance trigger into one of my G47 that also has a SRO on it…it’s, kinda good.
From the cheap seats, as a stubby guy with a short waist, I'd offer up holster clearance as one potential advantage. (and I'm pretty sure the difference is closer to 1/2").
Crusader
06-16-2023, 03:19 PM
I’m holding out for a OD green 47…come on Glock you know your going to make them, just get on with it.
But it’s getting harder and harder to wait.
I’m holding out for a OD green 47…come on Glock you know your going to make them, just get on with it.
But it’s getting harder and harder to wait.
Glock did OD green frames as regular catalog items for a while in the Gen3 era.
However, subsequent colored Glocks have been exclusives ordered by various distributors.
Apparently, Glock’s magic number to make something is 5000 units. If you really want a green G47 you should be addressing your request to Lipsey’s.
TC215
06-16-2023, 09:44 PM
Glock did OD green frames as regular catalog items for a while in the Gen3 era.
However, subsequent colored Glocks have been exclusives ordered by various distributors.
Apparently, Glock’s magic number to make something is 5000 units. If you really want a green G47 you should be addressing your request to Lipsey’s.
AmChar has the deal with Glock for the green guns…I’m sure there will be a run of the G47’s, but there’s no telling when.
Crusader
06-17-2023, 01:30 AM
AmChar has the deal with Glock for the green guns…I’m sure there will be a run of the G47’s, but there’s no telling when.
Yeah the Gen 3 earth toned guns were plentiful, I have a green 27 and 35, DE in 23 and 22. Gen 4 not as plentiful but still fairly easy to find, have a OD 19 and full DE in 35 and 23. The last 5 Glocks I’ve bought have all been black, all but my 41 are gen 5. Really would like a Gen 5 in earth tone, but they are few and far between it seems.
It was a missed opportunity to do our G47 green, the OAM guys could have had tan ones to match their uniforms and OFO keeps the black ones…
Tokarev
06-17-2023, 08:58 PM
It was a missed opportunity to do our G47 green, the OAM guys could have had tan ones to match their uniforms and OFO keeps the black ones…
Who at LESC would keep track of which guns are which in the warehouse? Like those guys don't have enough to deal with already....
Pfffft…fine. Bring reality into it. We could have had GREEN guns!?!?! 😂😜😎
It was a missed opportunity to do our G47 green, the OAM guys could have had tan ones to match their uniforms and OFO keeps the black ones…
Who at LESC would keep track of which guns are which in the warehouse? Like those guys don't have enough to deal with already....
INS tried marking the Beretta 96s with the program they were issues to: BP, INV, II, DDP etc. everything was mixed within a year.
The Bureau did green frame Glock 17s for SWAT after the 1911s but went back to black when the 17s were replaced with G19M MOS models.
Maybe Geissele can do green rifles for y’all’s new contract.
Tokarev
06-17-2023, 10:49 PM
Pfffft…fine. Bring reality into it. We could have had GREEN guns!?!?! [emoji23][emoji12][emoji41]https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-Stops-Rust-12-oz-Custom-Spray-5-in-1-Satin-Canyon-Green-Spray-Paint-Case-of-6-380420/323602441
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Nice! I’m taking that as authorization to start painting line Agents guns…Sir. 😂🤣😜
CDFIII
06-19-2023, 10:45 AM
I picked up a second G47 this weekend and decided to try something a bit different. Went with a Boresight gun from Ben and I am thoroughly impressed with it so far. I am using a Glock Performance trigger in my stock G47 and it has been exhibiting some of the issues that a few others have mentioned in the OEM Performance thread. I have the Apex setup in this and I prefer the feel and break of this trigger 10 times over the OEM trigger (at least in dry fire). The Apex also allows me to use my SCD gadgets which to me is a necessity. Mounted an Acro P2 on a FCD plate and 10-8 Performance MOS sights. Hopefully I can get it to the range this week.
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Tokarev
06-21-2023, 06:57 PM
Nice! I’m taking that as authorization to start painting line Agents guns…Sir. [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji12]Paint your TLR-1 green. That will get you partway there.
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Paint your TLR-1 green. That will get you partway there.
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TLR-1? Ewwww!!! What am I poor? 😂 X300U’s for me!
Tokarev
06-21-2023, 10:03 PM
TLR-1? Ewwww!!! What am I poor? [emoji23] X300U’s for me!$300 light on your $228 pistol.
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In September my work gun is changing from 17 gen 4, to a 47 with RMR. I'm wondering what attachment method, MOS plate or direct mill. I'm betting MOS plate is cheaper?
Eitherway I'm looking forward to it. It'll be first forray into gen 5s, and handgun RDS.
I suppose we'll see.
I'm looking forward to learning RDS on their dime. If you were picking, what's your choice for the 47? I might try to duplicate the work gun but curious of your preference in dot.
I was incorrect. Looks like we're going with G45, RMR, and a TLR7a. Hopefully the issued holster fits a bigger light.
I'm still interested in the G47 though.
I was incorrect. Looks like we're going with G45, RMR, and a TLR7a. Hopefully the issued holster fits a bigger light.
I'm still interested in the G47 though.
Hate to burst your bubble, but it'll probably be the standard safariland 7 series that everyone in my area uses for the exact combo you're being issued
Hate to burst your bubble, but it'll probably be the standard safariland 7 series that everyone in my area uses for the exact combo you're being issued
I'm not above buying one that fits a real light and is otherwise identical. And that's within policy.
I'm not above buying one that fits a real light and is otherwise identical. And that's within policy.
I had to do the same to run an x300 turbo
Exiledviking
07-22-2023, 10:08 PM
What I have always liked about the Glock 34 is how soft it shoots. What I have not liked about the 34 is it seems more sensitive to ammo, needing higher power factor loads than the 17 and 19, and I have felt like the slide doesn't cycle as well as a 19.
GJM's thoughts above rang in my head today during a match. I shot a dueling tree match (eight 5" plates at 10 yards or a little bit more) today. It's two shooters shooting and whoever can put all 8 plates on their opponents side wins. It's a lot of fun and it adds stress, which is great. I used my G34.5 with the 507Comp using the 8" horseshoe only. It worked quite well as it got me into the semi-finals.
What stood out to me today was how soft the G34.5 was shooting with the 150 gr Syntech ammo I was using. It caught me off guard a couple of times because the slide was cycling so softly that I could not tell by feel that I had run out of ammo. We were limited to 10 rounds per magazine and there were some heated shoot-offs where 2 or 3 mags were needed to take the win. That's the first time I've ever experienced that. So, I'm thinking that the 150 gr Syntech is close to the edge for reliable cycling, but still reliable in my G34.5.
GJM's thoughts above rang in my head today during a match. I shot a dueling tree match (eight 5" plates at 10 yards or a little bit more) today. It's two shooters shooting and whoever can put all 8 plates on their opponents side wins. It's a lot of fun and it adds stress, which is great. I used my G34.5 with the 507Comp using the 8" horseshoe only. It worked quite well as it got me into the semi-finals.
What stood out to me today was how soft the G34.5 was shooting with the 150 gr Syntech ammo I was using. It caught me off guard a couple of times because the slide was cycling so softly that I could not tell by feel that I had run out of ammo. We were limited to 10 rounds per magazine and there were some heated shoot-offs where 2 or 3 mags were needed to take the win. That's the first time I've ever experienced that. So, I'm thinking that the 150 gr Syntech is close to the edge for reliable cycling, but still reliable in my G34.5.
I bet that load is 138 power factor out of a G34.
Walked out of the gun shop today with a blue label 47. $532 OTD. Guy behind the counter was like “you’re lucky, this one comes with plates. They’re not including plates anymore.” I didn’t tell him hell would freeze over before I used the OEM plates. Not worth the wasted air.
This top end may get sent off to Monsoon Tactical for the Lucky 7’s treatment. The big question is do I keep the frame?
Walked out of the gun shop today with a blue label 47. $532 OTD. Guy behind the counter was like “you’re lucky, this one comes with plates. They’re not including plates anymore.” I didn’t tell him hell would freeze over before I used the OEM plates. Not worth the wasted air.
This top end may get sent off to Monsoon Tactical for the Lucky 7’s treatment. The big question is do I keep the frame?
Not sure about blue label, but the commercial ones come with the RMR footprint plate. It isn't terrible.
Hot Sauce
07-23-2023, 06:07 PM
GJM's thoughts above rang in my head today during a match. I shot a dueling tree match (eight 5" plates at 10 yards or a little bit more) today. It's two shooters shooting and whoever can put all 8 plates on their opponents side wins. It's a lot of fun and it adds stress, which is great. I used my G34.5 with the 507Comp using the 8" horseshoe only. It worked quite well as it got me into the semi-finals.
What stood out to me today was how soft the G34.5 was shooting with the 150 gr Syntech ammo I was using. It caught me off guard a couple of times because the slide was cycling so softly that I could not tell by feel that I had run out of ammo. We were limited to 10 rounds per magazine and there were some heated shoot-offs where 2 or 3 mags were needed to take the win. That's the first time I've ever experienced that. So, I'm thinking that the 150 gr Syntech is close to the edge for reliable cycling, but still reliable in my G34.5.
Such a fun idea for a match. Love it.
Not sure about blue label, but the commercial ones come with the RMR footprint plate. It isn't terrible.
This came with the original crappy OEM plates.
This came with the original crappy OEM plates.
When I went to mount a Holosun on a G47, I pawed through a few different CHPWS plates, and ended up using the OEM plate, that I thought had better screw engagement. It has worked fine.
It has been "gospel" for years that the OEM plates are bad, but properly installed, I am not so sure they are a problem. What issues are you seeing these days with them?
ST911
07-23-2023, 09:29 PM
Last several G47s I received came with RMR plates.
The OEM plates are just okay and can work. Generally though, OEM < CHPWS/FCD < direct mill.
Sero Sed Serio
07-23-2023, 11:50 PM
Just saw that CHPWS has a V4 steel plate, decided to give it a try for my G47. It came in this weekend, not impressed. Significant play front-and-back and side-to-side compared to the Holosun plates. Got the plate from Boresight, which doesn’t do returns/exchanges for CHPWS, but requires you to go through the manufacturer. I’ll reach out to CHPWS, but gut feeling is that it will be a write-off. Already put in an Optics Planet order for a Holosun plate, which means it will either ship on Tuesday or in February.
Interestingly enough, I didn’t think of it until this post, but my 47 didn’t come with a factory plate kit like previous MOS guns. Bought new from a trusted dealer a few weeks ago, and of recent vintage.
Sero Sed Serio
Go with FCD. I ran a CHPWS plate for a bit in on a MOS and then switched to FCD. For a RMR, I actually like the FCD in a MOS better than direct mill (and I have slides setup both ways). With the FCD plate it is extremely tight, no need for a sealing plate and it takes care of any snag points where the optic hangs ever so slightly over the edge of the slide. Super high quality plate.
Sero Sed Serio
07-24-2023, 12:26 AM
Sero Sed Serio
Go with FCD. I ran a CHPWS plate for a bit in on a MOS and then switched to FCD. For a RMR, I actually like the FCD in a MOS better than direct mill (and I have slides setup both ways). With the FCD plate it is extremely tight, no need for a sealing plate and it takes care of any snag points where the optic hangs ever so slightly over the edge of the slide. Super high quality plate.
I would love to, but I’m pretty sure that FCD isn’t offering any options for Holosun products.
I would love to, but I’m pretty sure that FCD isn’t offering any options for Holosun products.
Which Holosun ?
The Holosun 407/507/508 all fit the Glock RMR/SRO plate - the just use different screws (included).
DaBigBR
07-24-2023, 04:46 AM
I'm willing to bet he's talking about the 509T. CHPWS Glock 509T plates have been impossible to find for weeks and I just noticed the other day that Boresight had some.
DaBigBR
07-24-2023, 04:47 AM
When I went to mount a Holosun on a G47, I pawed through a few different CHPWS plates, and ended up using the OEM plate, that I thought had better screw engagement. It has worked fine.
It has been "gospel" for years that the OEM plates are bad, but properly installed, I am not so sure they are a problem. What issues are you seeing these days with them?
The same things we've always seen...sometimes they're not perfectly flat. I also don't care for the minimal thread engagement and think that the use of "zev" posts or the T nuts CHPWS uses get you a lot more engagement.
Sero Sed Serio
07-24-2023, 08:22 AM
I'm willing to bet he's talking about the 509T. CHPWS Glock 509T plates have been impossible to find for weeks and I just noticed the other day that Boresight had some.
Correct
I really like the Holosun manufactured plate for the 509T/MOS.
ST911
07-24-2023, 01:17 PM
I really like the Holosun manufactured plate for the 509T/MOS.
Not familiar, anything special about it? For 509Ts my guns are milled or using the C&H plates.
Not familiar, anything special about it? For 509Ts my guns are milled or using the C&H plates.
It is steel, fits the MOS slot well, and costs $49 shipped.
Exiledviking
07-24-2023, 04:07 PM
It is steel, fits the MOS slot well, and costs $49 shipped.I second this. I recently moved a 509T with the Holosun plate from a G34.5 MOS to a G47 MOS slide. I haven't had a chance to zero it, but I did run 3 rounds thru the G47, out of curiosity, this past Saturday and I smacked the 12" gong at 50 yards with all 3 rounds. That Holosun plate fit both slides well.
When I went to mount a Holosun on a G47, I pawed through a few different CHPWS plates, and ended up using the OEM plate, that I thought had better screw engagement. It has worked fine.
It has been "gospel" for years that the OEM plates are bad, but properly installed, I am not so sure they are a problem. What issues are you seeing these days with them?
The same things we've always seen...sometimes they're not perfectly flat. I also don't care for the minimal thread engagement and think that the use of "zev" posts or the T nuts CHPWS uses get you a lot more engagement.
Haven’t messed with OEM plates in a couples years, but DaBigBR echoes my thoughts. I’ll probably go FCD for plates from here on out.
Haven’t messed with OEM plates in a couples years, but DaBigBR echoes my thoughts. I’ll probably go FCD for plates from here on out.
Doesn't FCD specifically say not for use with Holosun optics?
Doesn't FCD specifically say not for use with Holosun optics?
Maybe at one point. No longer. Other than the 508T. From their website:
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Maybe at one point. No longer. Other than the 508T. From their website:
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Thank you, that is an update! BTW, I got a DPP brand MOS plate for the RMR footprint about six weeks ago, and was impressed.
Exiledviking
07-24-2023, 10:28 PM
...BTW, I got a DPP brand MOS plate for the RMR footprint about six weeks ago, and was impressed.
I've mounted two Holosun red dot sights using the DPP brand MOS plates and I've been impressed thus far. Both fit nice and snug in the MOS cuts. Plus it was a breeze to secure the plate and optic since DPP includes the screws in small labeled bags for mounting different optics. A nice touch!
Tokarev
09-08-2023, 07:02 AM
https://www.police1.com/police-products/firearms/articles/review-why-the-glock-47-mos-is-a-logical-evolutionary-step-uy1Mqczwuoqvcv0E/
Another article on the G47. I hope it does well for Glock. I'm not the biggest Glock fan but I do generally like the Gen 5 series.
One thing to gripe about is how clunky Glock’s numbering system has become. Would it not have been easier to label the Glock 47 as the Glock 17E (enhanced) or 17LM (long modular) or whatever? This may have helped consumers understand where the gun fits in the overall family. As I think I've previously posted, I think Glock should look at simply dropping the 17 from the lineup. Why make two guns that are essentially the same? The only differences being the length of the frame dust cover and recoil spring?
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Robinson
09-08-2023, 08:24 AM
47 is my favorite shooting Glock.
Would you mind posting some brief comments comparing shooting a G47 vs a Gen5 G19? I've read comments from some experienced shooters saying they shoot the G19 better than a G17 and your post makes me even more curious about it.
Would you mind posting some brief comments comparing shooting a G47 vs a Gen5 G19? I've read comments from some experienced shooters saying they shoot the G19 better than a G17 and your post makes me even more curious about it.
if you are curious about recoil impulse, a better comparison would be G45 vs 47.
The G17/34/45/47 grip and the G19 grip have slightly different grip shapes. In particular, the hump on the back strap of the G 19 is larger and located higher up on the backstrap. The performance delta between the two grip sizes tends to be a matter of hand size and shape.
https://www.police1.com/police-products/firearms/articles/review-why-the-glock-47-mos-is-a-logical-evolutionary-step-uy1Mqczwuoqvcv0E/
Another article on the G47. I hope it does well for Glock. I'm not the biggest Glock fan but I do generally like the Gen 5 series.
One thing to gripe about is how clunky Glock’s numbering system has become. Would it not have been easier to label the Glock 47 as the Glock 17E (enhanced) or 17LM (long modular) or whatever? This may have helped consumers understand where the gun fits in the overall family. As I think I've previously posted, I think Glock should look at simply dropping the 17 from the lineup. Why make two guns that are essentially the same? The only differences being the length of the frame dust cover and recoil spring?
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I would not really call that an “article.” it’s a paid product placement infomercial. Police1 is notorious for them.
https://www.police1.com/police-products/firearms/articles/review-why-the-glock-47-mos-is-a-logical-evolutionary-step-uy1Mqczwuoqvcv0E/
Another article on the G47. I hope it does well for Glock. I'm not the biggest Glock fan but I do generally like the Gen 5 series.
One thing to gripe about is how clunky Glock’s numbering system has become. Would it not have been easier to label the Glock 47 as the Glock 17E (enhanced) or 17LM (long modular) or whatever? This may have helped consumers understand where the gun fits in the overall family. As I think I've previously posted, I think Glock should look at simply dropping the 17 from the lineup. Why make two guns that are essentially the same? The only differences being the length of the frame dust cover and recoil spring?
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Hehehe. On that....
Me: "Yeah, I shot the Glock 45. It's pretty nice."
Them: "Oh, really? I thought you only wanted Glocks in 9mm."
Me: "I do."
Them: "But you said Glock 45."
Me: "The Glock 45 is a 9mm."
Them: "No dude, the 9mm and 45 are two different calibers."
Me: "visible sigh"
Hehehe. On that....
Me: "Yeah, I shot the Glock 45. It's pretty nice."
Them: "Oh, really? I thought you only wanted Glocks in 9mm."
Me: "I do."
Them: "But you said Glock 45."
Me: "The Glock 45 is a 9mm."
Them: "No dude, the 9mm and 45 are two different calibers."
Me: "visible sigh"
It all makes sense if you know the secret codes.
Glock 40 is a 10, because you divide by 4. It is longer than the G20, which you divide by 2.
The G44 is a .22, because you divide by 2.
The G45 is the G45 because they thought there might be a 47, which is longer.
The G48 is what it is because it is .5 inch (get it 5) longer than the 43.
The G19 is 19 because it is Gaston's lucky number.
Hehehe. On that....
Me: "Yeah, I shot the Glock 45. It's pretty nice."
Them: "Oh, really? I thought you only wanted Glocks in 9mm."
Me: "I do."
Them: "But you said Glock 45."
Me: "The Glock 45 is a 9mm."
Them: "No dude, the 9mm and 45 are two different calibers."
Me: "visible sigh"
Why do you carry a .45?
Because they don’t make a .46!!
And that’s how Glock released the new Glock 62/63/64 chambered in .47 GAP …
Tokarev
09-08-2023, 11:21 AM
It all makes sense if you know the secret codes.
Glock 40 is a 10, because you divide by 4. It is longer than the G20, which you divide by 2.
The G44 is a .22, because you divide by 2.
The G45 is the G45 because they thought there might be a 47, which is longer.
The G48 is what it is because it is .5 inch (get it 5) longer than the 43.
The G19 is 19 because it is Gaston's lucky number.
Lol. Now it all makes sense. The X in 19X is because the military didn't pick it and Xed it off the list. Not sure yet where the 43X fits in here [emoji848]
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Lol. Now it all makes sense. The X in 19X is because the military didn't pick it and Xed it of the list. Not sure yet where the 43X fits in here [emoji848]
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Because people stopped picking the 43 after the 365 came out?
(Barring the 42/43 revival thread here from a week or two ago)
Tokarev
09-08-2023, 11:57 AM
I was just looking for the recent youtu.be comedy video where a lady is wanting to buy a Glock. She wants a Glock .22 but the salesman is telling her she doesn't want a .40 she wants a 44. Quite funny from what I remember.
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Robinson
09-08-2023, 12:09 PM
if you are curious about recoil impulse, a better comparison would be G45 vs 47.
The G17/34/45/47 grip and the G19 grip have slightly different grip shapes. In particular, the hump on the back strap of the G 19 is larger and located higher up on the backstrap. The performance delta between the two grip sizes tends to be a matter of hand size and shape.
Not so much recoil impulse as hitting the target. I've owned a G17 and a G34, and I shoot a G34 better than a G17 -- whether that is due to longer sight radius, more weight toward the muzzle, or a slightly better trigger (or all three) I'm not sure.
When someone reports that they perform better with a G19 than a G17 I always wonder if it has something to do with the slide/barrel length or if it's just a matter of matching the gun to the person.
Not so much recoil impulse as hitting the target. I've owned a G17 and a G34, and I shoot a G34 better than a G17 -- whether that is due to longer sight radius, more weight toward the muzzle, or a slightly better trigger (or all three) I'm not sure.
When someone reports that they perform better with a G19 than a G17 I always wonder if it has something to do with the slide/barrel length or if it's just a matter of matching the gun to the person.
If you want an answer you need to eliminate variables such as generations, trigger connector etc
Given a 45 is literally a G19 slide on a G17/34/47 grip comparing a G45 to the other 3 eliminates grip/ hand size issues.
The next variable is RSA length. The 17/34 use the G17 RSA, the 45/47 uses the G19 RSA.
Robinson
09-08-2023, 02:46 PM
If you want an answer you need to eliminate variables such as generations, trigger connector etc
Given a 45 is literally a G19 slide on a G17/34/47 grip comparing a G45 to the other 3 eliminates grip/ hand size issues.
The next variable is RSA length. The 17/34 use the G17 RSA, the 45/47 uses the G19 RSA.
Let's assume Gen 5 guns in stock configuration.
Does the G19 RSA provide any benefit over the G17 RSA when shooting?
Does a G47 shoot more like a G17 or a G45?
Does a G45 shoot more like a G17 or a G19?
I realize much of this is subjective.
Let's assume Gen 5 guns in stock configuration.
Does the G19 RSA provide any benefit over the G17 RSA when shooting?
Does a G47 shoot more like a G17 or a G45?
Does a G45 shoot more like a G17 or a G19?
I realize much of this is subjective.
Personally the best analogy is the 47 shoots or more correctly tracks like a shorter 34. I prefer the 47 to the 45, 17 and 34.
These days, I find myself gravitating to a 47 or a 19 with a comp and LTT a grip anchor.
Robinson
09-08-2023, 03:29 PM
Personally the best analogy is the 47 shoots or more correctly tracks like a shorter 34. I prefer the 47 to the 45, 17 and 34.
Interesting. Thanks for your feedback.
Robinson
09-08-2023, 03:33 PM
These days, I find myself gravitating to a 47 or a 19 with a comp and LTT a grip anchor.
So it sounds like you prefer the longer backstrap over a standard G19. I was going to ask if anyone has tried a G47 slide on a G19 frame for a CCO-like variant but so far I don't see anyone mentioning a benefit to the G19 frame (except maybe easier to conceal).
TC215
09-08-2023, 03:57 PM
I think Glock should look at simply dropping the 17 from the lineup. Why make two guns that are essentially the same? The only differences being the length of the frame dust cover and recoil spring?
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They dropped the 17 MOS when the G47 was released to the public.
awp_101
09-08-2023, 07:06 PM
Hehehe. On that....
Me: "Yeah, I shot the Glock 45. It's pretty nice."
Them: "Oh, really? I thought you only wanted Glocks in 9mm."
Me: "I do."
Them: "But you said Glock 45."
Me: "The Glock 45 is a 9mm."
Them: "No dude, the 9mm and 45 are two different calibers."
Me: "visible sigh"
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Robinson
09-09-2023, 02:37 PM
Okay so I answered some of my own questions today. I went and compared the grip/balance/etc... on a Gen 5 G19 and a G47. To me the G19 feels fine whereas the G47 just feels "off", which is what I remember from the G17. I went ahead and bought the G19, lubed it, and shot 100 rounds. After just one range session I already like it better than the G17s I've owned. The recoil is snappier but I find it easier to get hits with the G19.
It was a positive outing, since I like the G19 and the Dan Wesson Pointman Carry (CCO) 45 I just bought looks to be excellent based on shooting today.
Okay so I answered some of my own questions today. I went and compared the grip/balance/etc... on a Gen 5 G19 and a G47. To me the G19 feels fine whereas the G47 just feels "off", which is what I remember from the G17. I went ahead and bought the G19, lubed it, and shot 100 rounds. After just one range session I already like it better than the G17s I've owned. The recoil is snappier but I find it easier to get hits with the G19.
It was a positive outing, since I like the G19 and the Dan Wesson Pointman Carry (CCO) 45 I just bought looks to be excellent based on shooting today.
My 47 slide lives on my 19 grip frame. I’m crazy about and it shoots like a house afire
Okay so I answered some of my own questions today. I went and compared the grip/balance/etc... on a Gen 5 G19 and a G47. To me the G19 feels fine whereas the G47 just feels "off", which is what I remember from the G17. I went ahead and bought the G19, lubed it, and shot 100 rounds. After just one range session I already like it better than the G17s I've owned. The recoil is snappier but I find it easier to get hits with the G19.
It was a positive outing, since I like the G19 and the Dan Wesson Pointman Carry (CCO) 45 I just bought looks to be excellent based on shooting today.
Did you shoot the 47 ?
Did you shoot the 47 slide on the 19 frame ?
In dry handling the 47 feels like a 17, but when you shoot it, the recoil impulse and tracking is noticeably better.
IME about 1/3 of people shoot the G17 grip 10-15% better, 1/3 shoot the G19 grip better and 1/3 shoot both about the same.
I’m a G17 grip person but YMMV so shooting both the 47 and the 47 slide on a G19 grip are necessary to make any real determination.
If how guns feel in the hand dry was an accurate measure of performance I would be shooting S&W M&Ps, VP9s etc. I feel great but I don’t shoot them because timers and Targets don’t lie.
Cool Breeze
09-10-2023, 08:20 PM
It took me awhile but I read this whole thread. While a couple people that actually have the 47 really love the 47, I'm surprised more people didn't chime in on their experience. I'm tentatively assuming its because it not been widely purchased yet by folks here (or maybe full size Glocks are not very popular anymore). As someone who loves the 17, I am admittedly a little miffed that the 17 MOS got dropped from the line up as I was planning to pick one up so now I don't know what to do.
I also just read a few of the M&P 2.0 threads regarding accuracy, lockup geometry, lockup timing, etc. so that is also on my mind. Maybe just the M&Ps were poorly engineered in the beginning or the Glock engineers are really that good that they can just play legos with Glock parts by replacing the dust cover with the Glock 34-like slide extension and changing RSA to a 19 version with no adverse effects. While I am aware that that is what they originally did with the 34, they also cut out a piece of the slide to cut weight. In the 47 case, you are getting not only a 17 length slide but the additional weight of the slide that is replacing the dust cover with the shorter 19 RSA.
Maybe this isn't that big of a change as I imagine or I'm over thinking it but my brain just doesn't understand how this is a better option from a functional/shooting/reliability perspective (institutional needs for inventory controls is irrelevant to me). That is not to say that it is not, but I just don't understand.
Tokarev
09-11-2023, 07:50 AM
It took me awhile but I read this whole thread. While a couple people that actually have the 47 really love the 47, I'm surprised more people didn't chime in on their experience. I'm tentatively assuming its because it not been widely purchased yet by folks here (or maybe full size Glocks are not very popular anymore). As someone who loves the 17, I am admittedly a little miffed that the 17 MOS got dropped from the line up as I was planning to pick one up so now I don't know what to do.
I also just read a few of the M&P 2.0 threads regarding accuracy, lockup geometry, lockup timing, etc. so that is also on my mind. Maybe just the M&Ps were poorly engineered in the beginning or the Glock engineers are really that good that they can just play legos with Glock parts by replacing the dust cover with the Glock 34-like slide extension and changing RSA to a 19 version with no adverse effects. While I am aware that that is what they originally did with the 34, they also cut out a piece of the slide to cut weight. In the 47 case, you are getting not only a 17 length slide but the additional weight of the slide that is replacing the dust cover with the shorter 19 RSA.
Maybe this isn't that big of a change as I imagine or I'm over thinking it but my brain just doesn't understand how this is a better option from a functional/shooting/reliability perspective (institutional needs for inventory controls is irrelevant to me). That is not to say that it is not, but I just don't understand.
If you like the 17 why are you assuming you won't like the 47? And why are you assuming that changing the recoil spring will make the pistol less reliable/functional?
Nobody is complaining about the change to a standard locking block. I'm surprised someone isn't claiming he can feel the difference in recoil with the change from the legacy 17 locking block in the G.5 guns.
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Did you shoot the 47 ?
Did you shoot the 47 slide on the 19 frame ?
In dry handling the 47 feels like a 17, but when you shoot it, the recoil impulse and tracking is noticeably better.
IME about 1/3 of people shoot the G17 grip 10-15% better, 1/3 shoot the G19 grip better and 1/3 shoot both about the same.
I’m a G17 grip person but YMMV so shooting both the 47 and the 47 slide on a G19 grip are necessary to make any real determination.
If how guns feel in the hand dry was an accurate measure of performance I would be shooting S&W M&Ps, VP9s etc. I feel great but I don’t shoot them because timers and Targets don’t lie.
I hesitate to say such things because I can't back it up with any hard data empirically but dang if I don't believe that 100%. It's the best handling Glock I've shot IMO.
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D2s and D3s SHO all from 7 yds.
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Robinson
09-11-2023, 09:34 AM
Did you shoot the 47 ?
Did you shoot the 47 slide on the 19 frame ?
In dry handling the 47 feels like a 17, but when you shoot it, the recoil impulse and tracking is noticeably better.
IME about 1/3 of people shoot the G17 grip 10-15% better, 1/3 shoot the G19 grip better and 1/3 shoot both about the same.
I’m a G17 grip person but YMMV so shooting both the 47 and the 47 slide on a G19 grip are necessary to make any real determination.
If how guns feel in the hand dry was an accurate measure of performance I would be shooting S&W M&Ps, VP9s etc. I feel great but I don’t shoot them because timers and Targets don’t lie.
I actually owned a G47 briefly, and it was a nice pistol. For some reason I just think the G17/G47 grip doesn't work for me, whereas the G19 grip does. I'd really like to try the setup that you and JHC mentioned -- A G47 slide on a G19 frame. Sounds like a good option, but then it takes two pistols to make one and I don't need a G45.
Cool Breeze
09-11-2023, 09:35 AM
If you like the 17 why are you assuming you won't like the 47? And why are you assuming that changing the recoil spring will make the pistol less reliable/functional?
I could just as easily ask why is there the assumption that changing the recoil spring (by shortening it and adding mass to the slide) will have no effect on reliability or functionality? I provided why I question that assumption in my previous post. If Glock made this gun to meet a contract requirement that was based on easier inventory controls and not improving the function of the pistol - I think that this is a reasonable question. It was widely reported on this site that the changes to the Gen5 19 (from the gen 4) were based on the FBI contract which required improving the functional/shooting requirements of the pistol (namely accuracy) - so that seems in line with the usual standards of Glock evolution of its pistol design. In the Glock Performance Trigger thread, multiple people (who seem to be in the know) claim that Glock takes an incredibly long time to develop and test new updates because they want to maintain their reputation of reliability. This rollout seems a little haphazard to me. That being said, maybe Glock had this idea in the works for awhile, did extensive testing, and whispered it to the feds who then decided to put it in their contract requirements and voila here we are. My present understanding is that is not the way it worked but I could be wrong.
Nobody is complaining about the change to a standard locking block. I'm surprised someone isn't claiming he can feel the difference in recoil with the change from the legacy 17 locking block in the G.5 guns.
I actually did think of this but only started googling it after I made my original post in this thread. I actually think its an interesting question and as fan of Glock products, I would love to know why they changed the locking block. Did it have to do with function of the pistol or was it a manufacturing/inventory/parts decision?
I could just as easily ask why is there the assumption that changing the recoil spring (by shortening it and adding mass to the slide) will have no effect on reliability or functionality? I provided why I question that assumption in my previous post. If Glock made this gun to meet a contract requirement that was based on easier inventory controls and not improving the function of the pistol - I think that this is a reasonable question. It was widely reported on this site that the changes to the Gen5 19 (from the gen 4) were based on the FBI contract which required improving the functional/shooting requirements of the pistol (namely accuracy) - so that seems in line with the usual standards of Glock evolution of its pistol design. In the Glock Performance Trigger thread, multiple people (who seem to be in the know) claim that Glock takes an incredibly long time to develop and test new updates because they want to maintain their reputation of reliability. This rollout seems a little haphazard to me. That being said, maybe Glock had this idea in the works for awhile, did extensive testing, and whispered it to the feds who then decided to put it in their contract requirements and voila here we are. My present understanding is that is not the way it worked but I could be wrong.
I actually did think of this but only started googling it after I made my original post in this thread. I actually think its an interesting question and as fan of Glock products, I would love to know why they changed the locking block. Did it have to do with function of the pistol or was it a manufacturing/inventory/parts decision?
I think they changed the 17/34 to the 19 lock block because it paved the way for "modularity" as now found in the G19/45/47 family
Cool Breeze
09-11-2023, 10:06 AM
I think they changed the 17/34 to the 19 lock block because it paved the way for "modularity" as now found in the G19/45/47 family
This is an interesting point that their motivation was "modularity." Knowing Glock's traditionally longer r&d periods, this could have been in the works as Glock's response to the modularity "success" of the P320 for several years before the CBP contract. Being as the company's bread and butter is reliability and track record (and not innovative designs), I think these are interesting questions. However, while I'm a fan of Glocks, the company is not immune to bad decisions (the extraction issues of the later gen3/gen4 9mm guns is just one example of that) - which is why I'm curious.
I actually owned a G47 briefly, and it was a nice pistol. For some reason I just think the G17/G47 grip doesn't work for me, whereas the G19 grip does. I'd really like to try the setup that you and JHC mentioned -- A G47 slide on a G19 frame. Sounds like a good option, but then it takes two pistols to make one and I don't need a G45.
Do what I did to make mine. Buy a 47 and trade the frame for a G19.5 frame. I’m sure some 19 owner would rather have a 45.
Tokarev
09-11-2023, 10:39 AM
This is an interesting point that their motivation was "modularity." Knowing Glock's traditionally longer r&d periods, this could have been in the works as Glock's response to the modularity "success" of the P320 for several years before the CBP contract. Being as the company's bread and butter is reliability and track record (and not innovative designs), I think these are interesting questions. However, while I'm a fan of Glocks, the company is not immune to bad decisions (the extraction issues of the later gen3/gen4 9mm guns is just one example of that) - which is why I'm curious.
Several tens of thousands of G47s have been in use across US Border Patrol and Air and Marine locations nationwide. Guns are being used in everything from coastal salt water locations to snow and cold and desert locations. The guns have generally been working well outside of the tendency to shoot holes in stuff as part of the disassembly process. CBP isn't the first agency to experience issues with this when moving over to the Glock. And they won't be the last....
The only thing that seems to be a somewhat issue is the mags. A dozen or more witness holes in the mag body is a good pathway for the introduction of dust and dirt and the mags aren't the easiest to take apart for constant cleaning. But the witness holes aren't anything new nor is the difficulty in field stripping.
Aside from this, we've seen a small handful of recoil springs that have bent or even come unriveted. But this is something that has been seen occasionally since the intro of the Gen 4 dual spring. It isn't widespread as far as I know and is probably caught by simply looking things over during routine inspection. Replace the spring if the washer that interfaces with the barrel is starting to look a little wavy.
I'd speculate, given the time from CBP solicitation to adoption, that the G47 concept was already well vetted internally by Glock. The concept could have been developed as part of the G19X military stuff or it could have been in the works as simply part of an effort to streamline and simplify production. Or it could have been requested by some foreign military or police force. Or it could have been rushed into production to meet the CBP modularity requirements. I guess only Glock engineers know for sure.
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Tokarev
09-11-2023, 10:42 AM
Gen 5 guns did have an issue with the new ambi slide release spring wearing a bit of plastic away inside the frame. The issue has been fixed, as far as I know, with a spring that's slightly larger diameter. The issue was discovered by AZ DPS and Glock was very quick to fix it. This was before CBP adoption and has not been an issue with the G47. Again as far as I know.
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WobblyPossum
09-11-2023, 11:43 AM
Tokarev, I remember some discussion on the parameters of the CBP contract testing that NIJ performed but don’t remember the specifics. Would you be able to summarize what the guns went through in testing? Might help to assuage some of these concerns too.
Tokarev
09-11-2023, 11:49 AM
Tokarev, I remember some discussion on the parameters of the CBP contract testing that NIJ performed but don’t remember the specifics. Would you be able to summarize what the guns went through in testing? Might help to assuage some of these concerns too.Prospective guns were submitted to accuracy, durability and reliability tests. This included some environmental tests. Guns were also submitted to safety tests that included drops, etc.
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Tokarev
09-11-2023, 01:30 PM
Some info on NIJ's handgun testing:
https://nij.ojp.gov/nij-compliance-testing-autoloading-pistols
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Robinson
09-28-2023, 09:50 AM
My 47 slide lives on my 19 grip frame. I’m crazy about and it shoots like a house afire
So I decided to make my own JHC Special(TM). I found an online seller offering complete G47 slides and bought one to put on my G19 frame to try out. I like the feel and should know how it shoots by this weekend.
This summer, the two Glock models I have been mostly shooting are a 47 and a 19 with a comp. Yesterday, I did something I haven't done -- shoot a 47 and a 19 (no comp) with the same G45 lower, both using the same ammo, Lawman 124 on the same challenging target array. Interestingly, at least yesterday, I found the 19 slide to be easier to shoot, as there seemed to be less dot movement.
Trukinjp13
09-29-2023, 11:35 AM
This summer, the two Glock models I have been mostly shooting are a 47 and a 19 with a comp. Yesterday, I did something I haven't done -- shoot a 47 and a 19 (no comp) with the same G45 lower, both using the same ammo, Lawman 124 on the same challenging target array. Interestingly, at least yesterday, I found the 19 slide to be easier to shoot, as there seemed to be less dot movement.
This seems to come back around every once in awhile. The shorter slide has always worked better for me tracking a dot. Which coincidentally most everyone says. But get caught up in whatever long slide is the flavor of the month. Then they go back to the shorter and go, huh.
Still personally think the g45 is the best Glock. I’ve always preferred the g17 grip over the 19. And pair it with the shorter slide. Gtg
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Robinson
10-02-2023, 02:19 PM
So far I'm not sure whether I like the G47 slide on the G19 frame better or the G19 in its standard configuration. It will require more shooting to decide. I'm not really much of a Glock guy, so it's not my top priority at the range -- but it is enjoyable.
I am more convinced, however, that I prefer the G19 frame geometry over the G17/G45/G47 grip frame. An exception to this is the G34 -- I had a Gen 3 G34 that I really liked.
So far I'm not sure whether I like the G47 slide on the G19 frame better or the G19 in its standard configuration. It will require more shooting to decide. I'm not really much of a Glock guy, so it's not my top priority at the range -- but it is enjoyable.
I am more convinced, however, that I prefer the G19 frame geometry over the G17/G45/G47 grip frame. An exception to this is the G34 -- I had a Gen 3 G34 that I really liked.
34 and 17 frames are the same?
Robinson
10-02-2023, 11:10 PM
34 and 17 frames are the same?
Yep I realize that, and I understand why my comment would be confusing.
I owned a Gen3 and a Gen5 G34. I don't usually care for finger grooves, but for some reason the ones on the Gen3 G34 worked for me. Something about the slide length and more muzzle-heavy balance made it easier for me to hit with. It's sort of the reason I wanted to try the G47 slide on the G19 frame, to get that same balance. I'm just not sure yet if I like it better than the standard G19 configuration.
Anyway, as I alluded to I'm really still a 1911 45 guy and not much of a Glock guy so this is just a learning experience for me.
Kyle Reese
11-13-2023, 07:24 PM
My agency was kind enough to furnish each FI with a brand new G47 (brand new in the pic) equipped with a P2 ACRO and X300 for the purpose of teaching pistol-mounted optics. In a month, I've logged in approximately 3,200 rounds on this handgun. I'll log in some more rounds on the weapon this week, as I'm teaching a PMO class this week to our CAT team.
I'm very happy with this setup, as well as the SafariVault holster that I'm using.
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I was so smitten with shooting the G47 with a 407CO optic, I bought a 2nd one to run just irons. Had I known a G49 was in the wings I'd have chosen that but the newer 47 is likewise a fantastic shooter. So I have three full size frames, G47x2 and a G45. Thinking of having the G45 frame cut to G26 to occassionally mate with the G45 slide or a 47.
Cool Breeze
11-14-2023, 11:12 AM
My agency was kind enough to furnish each FI with a brand new G47 (brand new in the pic) equipped with a P2 ACRO and X300 for the purpose of teaching pistol-mounted optics. In a month, I've logged in approximately 3,200 rounds on this handgun. I'll log in some more rounds on the weapon this week, as I'm teaching a PMO class this week to our CAT team.
I'm very happy with this setup, as well as the SafariVault holster that I'm using.
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Nice! Is that direct mount? What were you all shooting before?
Spartan1980
11-14-2023, 02:17 PM
I was so smitten with shooting the G47 with a 407CO optic, I bought a 2nd one to run just irons. Had I known a G49 was in the wings I'd have chosen that but the newer 47 is likewise a fantastic shooter. So I have three full size frames, G47x2 and a G45. Thinking of having the G45 frame cut to G26 to occassionally mate with the G45 slide or a 47.
When Glock introduced the G45 I thought that they had had a brain fart and got it backwards. I really wanted a 19 frame with a 17 slide. I've since learned it was I that was backwards and have came to prefer the snappier and lighter slide.
Now I think that 26 Frame with a 19 slide, riding an a G34 or 17 AIWB holster may just be the perfect concealment setup. Come on Glock! You'll get to modularity yet! :cool:
Kyle Reese
11-14-2023, 03:10 PM
Nice! Is that direct mount? What were you all shooting before?
Mount is FCD, I think. We were a Gen 4 G23/35 agency from January 2012-January 2021, when we went to G47s for uniformed personnel and 19.5 MOS for criminal investigators.
For those who are running a Glock 47, Acro P2, and X300 (or similar full sized weapon light)…have you experienced any reliability concerns?
My agency will be moving from our .40 Glocks to 9mm Glocks in the near future. It’s between 45 MOS and 47 MOS. I have a personally owned 45 MOS with an Acro p2, x300u, and radian afterburner. It has been flawless. I’m just wondering about the additional 4 ounces of weight comparing the 45 to the 47, and the fact they run the same recoil spring. Years of being forced to carry a .40 Glock, and dealing with finicky light and gun combos, makes me obsessed over every ounce. I am leaning 47, but I have a slight apprehension regarding reliability when adding a heavier light and optic.
Also, I’m almost certain the approved department optic will be a P2. Should we just go direct MOS7 cut, or keep future options open and go reg MOS with mandated FCD and B&T only plates? We typically cycle new duty guns every 10 years…
I have a G45 set up similar to yours P2, X300U (but with a Mayhem comp) and a G47 with a Steiner optic (close enough to a P2 for this discussion) & X300U and haven’t had any problems with either of them. My work G47 with X300U (no optic) gets shot daily with my new gig with little to no PM…also no problems. I also run a G47 with X300U and a SRO with a performance trigger for USPSA, again no problems. I’m pretty satisfied with the G47 in a duty roll.
steve
12-29-2023, 08:15 PM
Has the 47 caught on? Anyone running one of these instead of a 45 or 17?
Has the 47 caught on? Anyone running one of these instead of a 45 or 17?
Remember the 47 has only been widely available for a short time. They were initially only available to Fed agencies.
U.S. CBP / Border Patrol
U.S. Secret Service
Pentagon Force Protection Agency (PFPA)
NCIS
For those who are running a Glock 47, Acro P2, and X300 (or similar full sized weapon light)…have you experienced any reliability concerns?
My agency will be moving from our .40 Glocks to 9mm Glocks in the near future. It’s between 45 MOS and 47 MOS. I have a personally owned 45 MOS with an Acro p2, x300u, and radian afterburner. It has been flawless. I’m just wondering about the additional 4 ounces of weight comparing the 45 to the 47, and the fact they run the same recoil spring. Years of being forced to carry a .40 Glock, and dealing with finicky light and gun combos, makes me obsessed over every ounce. I am leaning 47, but I have a slight apprehension regarding reliability when adding a heavier light and optic.
Also, I’m almost certain the approved department optic will be a P2. Should we just go direct MOS7 cut, or keep future options open and go reg MOS with mandated FCD and B&T only plates? We typically cycle new duty guns every 10 years…
The following agencies are running G47s:
U.S. CBP / Border Patrol
U.S. Secret Service
Pentagon Force Protection Agency (PFPA)
NCIS
PFPA has been running 47s with P2s over a year.
USSS approved P2s for use on both the 19 and 47 a while back and will finally start issuing them next month.
CBP/USBP is still finalizing the details of their pistol optics roll out but their first (and so far only) approved optic is the P2.
All of these agencies have “serious” testing protocols for duty gear. If the weight of the P2 was a problem on the G47, these agencies would not have approved them.
The difference in weight between a stock / bare G45 and a G47 is only 1.4 ounces. Not to mention , what Gen .40 cal are we talking about? The WML /40 issues were with Gen 3s and only in 40/357 cal guns.
There are no reports of WML induced reliability issues in Gen 5 9mm Glocks.
Which is no surprise as most guns run best in the calibers they were originally designed for.
I have a G47 with SRO and X300 which is quickly become my favorite Glock and I’ve been shooting Glocks since 1989.
Kyle Reese
12-30-2023, 11:05 AM
If you're moving to one optic for your agency, it would make a great deal of sense to go with the MOS 7 cut- as it eliminates the need for a mounting plate. My agency has been issuing G47's with the ACRO P-1 & P-2 for a few years now to speciality units (with TLR-1 HL's and some X300's), and I've not noticed any reliability issues arise from the 47's recoil spring assembly with or without the ACRO. If you go the MOS route, the FCD plate is an excellent choice.
For those who are running a Glock 47, Acro P2, and X300 (or similar full sized weapon light)…have you experienced any reliability concerns?
My agency will be moving from our .40 Glocks to 9mm Glocks in the near future. It’s between 45 MOS and 47 MOS. I have a personally owned 45 MOS with an Acro p2, x300u, and radian afterburner. It has been flawless. I’m just wondering about the additional 4 ounces of weight comparing the 45 to the 47, and the fact they run the same recoil spring. Years of being forced to carry a .40 Glock, and dealing with finicky light and gun combos, makes me obsessed over every ounce. I am leaning 47, but I have a slight apprehension regarding reliability when adding a heavier light and optic.
Also, I’m almost certain the approved department optic will be a P2. Should we just go direct MOS7 cut, or keep future options open and go reg MOS with mandated FCD and B&T only plates? We typically cycle new duty guns every 10 years…
When Glock introduced the G45 I thought that they had had a brain fart and got it backwards. I really wanted a 19 frame with a 17 slide. I've since learned it was I that was backwards and have came to prefer the snappier and lighter slide.
Now I think that 26 Frame with a 19 slide, riding an a G34 or 17 AIWB holster may just be the perfect concealment setup. Come on Glock! You'll get to modularity yet! :cool:
You may have it backwards again. The SIG P320 X-compact is essentially a G26 size slide on a G19 size frame and it’s very handy, especially with an optic.
Spartan1980
12-30-2023, 02:38 PM
You may have it backwards again. The SIG P320 X-compact is essentially a G26 size slide on a G19 size frame and it’s very handy, especially with an optic.
We are all different in what we need. For me, grip length is far more important than barrel/slide length. I'd have no issues carrying a G34 AIWB except for one thing. The grip prints terribly on me. For others it's not an issue. A 5" 1911 is the same, I have no issue at all with stuffing all that barrel in my pants, but that grip....
I'd carry most any sized gun except I want my shit concealed and I need a freaking micro grip to keep it hidden. :(
We are all different in what we need. For me, grip length is far more important than barrel/slide length. I'd have no issues carrying a G34 AIWB except for one thing. The grip prints terribly on me. For others it's not an issue. A 5" 1911 is the same, I have no issue at all with stuffing all that barrel in my pants, but that grip....
I'd carry most any sized gun except I want my shit concealed and I need a freaking micro grip to keep it hidden. :(
I was pretty happy with a Glock 26 for many years but I almost always ran it with a +2 base pad which basically made it G 19 size.
The 26 grip with the +2 does eliminate some of the rear hump that makes blocks more challenging to hide though.
Spartan1980
12-30-2023, 02:48 PM
I was pretty happy with a Glock 26 for many years but I almost always ran it with a +2 base pad which basically made it G 19 size.
The 26 grip with the +2 does eliminate some of the rear hump that makes blocks more challenging to hide though.
I'm beginning to understand why that 26 appealed to you. I'm just now after all these years, own one and shooting it was sort is sort of an epiphany. It shoots easier than my 17, as in faster AND more accurate. I'm still trying to figure out why.
I'm beginning to understand why that 26 appealed to you. I'm just now after all these years, own one and shooting it was sort is sort of an epiphany. It shoots easier than my 17, as in faster AND more accurate. I'm still trying to figure out why.
Best of both worlds.
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Jason
02-29-2024, 04:35 PM
It was a missed opportunity to do our G47 green, the OAM guys could have had tan ones to match their uniforms and OFO keeps the black ones…
AMO guys are crazy for the tan.
Alaskapopo
03-02-2024, 05:21 AM
I like the versatility. I have a g45 and a g49. That gives me 4 confirmation
Tokarev
05-17-2024, 05:31 PM
Brownells Product Spotlight: The Glock 47
https://www.brownells.com/the-trigger-times/guns--gear/product-spotlights/product-spotlight-the-glock-47/?trk_msg=U942IR67IF04J9F2SRPUQF0D00&trk_contact=C8Q72J44POOUBLQ49FRTEVQ938&trk_sid=32MHDTQPP5C5TIUQP4VHVK9G88&trk_link=A25TAOK069U450N0TJRU9855P8
Sensei
05-17-2024, 09:30 PM
Best of both worlds.
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This is the way.
Interesting. Pretend like I’m an idiot and help me understand what you did there.
I see a G26 frame, but the slide does not look like a 19, 17, or 47. I’m 3 pours into Angle’s Envy on a Friday night and the dust cover is fucking with my frontal cortex.
Cool Breeze
05-17-2024, 09:57 PM
Interesting. Pretend like I’m an idiot and help me understand what you did there.
I see a G26 frame, but the slide does not look like a 19, 17, or 47. I’m 3 pours into Angle’s Envy on a Friday night and the dust cover is fucking with my frontal cortex.
Looks like a lone wolf slide adapter.
Interesting. Pretend like I’m an idiot and help me understand what you did there.
I see a G26 frame, but the slide does not look like a 19, 17, or 47. I’m 3 pours into Angle’s Envy on a Friday night and the dust cover is fucking with my frontal cortex.
Looks like a lone wolf slide adapter.
Cool Breeze got it. It’s a 19 slide (Brownells) with a LE Gen 3 to Gen 4 adapter to fill the gap left under the slide. I’ve also got a Gen 4 to Gen 4 adapter for a Gen 4 slide which is not tapered.
I’ve got a Gen 3 to Gen 3 adapter on my home brew G49 seen here:
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Hambo
05-18-2024, 04:35 AM
Cool Breeze got it. It’s a 19 slide (Brownells) with a LE Gen 3 to Gen 4 adapter to fill the gap left under the slide. I’ve also got a Gen 4 to Gen 4 adapter for a Gen 4 slide which is not tapered.
I’ve got a Gen 3 to Gen 3 adapter on my home brew G49 seen here:
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We need a Lon's Glock Lego Projects for dummies thread. It will save you getting PMs from guys like me asking, WTF did I just buy and why doesn't it fit togther?
We need a Lon's Glock Lego Projects for dummies thread. It will save you getting PMs from guys like me asking, WTF did I just buy and why doesn't it fit togther?
Hahahaha. Thats actually a good idea.
I put another 47 together for the summer season. Terrific launcher of G9 penetrator ammo.
EPS 6, DPP plate, low Ameriglo BUIS, Boresight texture, CHPWS brass funnel, Apex trigger.
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Vista461
09-07-2024, 08:01 PM
Bringing it back up to the top.
I just qualified with my new issued G47 today. So far so good. Should get our optics mounted next month. Can’t wait to have a work gun with an optic.
We’re waiting on our 47s with Acros to come in. I ran 2k through one in short order back in April and felt a noticeable difference from my personal 45 with an Acro.
As I have experimented more, my favorite combination is 19 length upper with a 45/47 size lower. I shot a USPSA match today, basically using my carry gun, which is a short slide and either a 19 or full size lower.
What do you notice as a difference between the 47 & 45 (basically what you’re describing)? Is this with an optic? Or irons? I think I fell the same thing but I’ve decided to standardize on the 47 because that’s what they give me at work. I find it hard to articulate the difference bit there is a subtle one. Is the shorter slide just a hair faster? Or is that my imagination?
Tokarev
09-22-2024, 08:03 PM
https://youtu.be/7i_6CZm8KUo?si=UURyuVYOHbYILd4K
What do you notice as a difference between the 47 & 45 (basically what you’re describing)? Is this with an optic? Or irons? I think I fell the same thing but I’ve decided to standardize on the 47 because that’s what they give me at work. I find it hard to articulate the difference bit there is a subtle one. Is the shorter slide just a hair faster? Or is that my imagination?
The 47 feels fast to me, but the dot is less jumpy with the 19 length slide.
Shooting a 45 and 47 side by side, I perceive a noticeable, albeit negligible difference in recoil between the two. The 47 feels softer to me, less flippy, and overall easier to shoot…but like most, your mileage may vary.
Cool Breeze
09-24-2024, 09:38 PM
Shooting a 45 and 47 side by side, I perceive a noticeable, albeit negligible difference in recoil between the two. The 47 feels softer to me, less flippy, and overall easier to shoot…but like most, your mileage may vary.
I think Ben stoeger used almost those exact same words in a recent video about the 47
JSGlock34
09-24-2024, 09:55 PM
Shooting a 45 and 47 side by side, I perceive a noticeable, albeit negligible difference in recoil between the two. The 47 feels softer to me, less flippy, and overall easier to shoot…but like most, your mileage may vary.
I agree...Something I find interesting - Glock's website says the weight of the G47 (https://us.glock.com/en/pistols/g47-mos) is the exact same as the GEN3 G34 (https://us.glock.com/en/pistols/g34) - 25.93oz. We're talking really small differences, but I thought the G47 felt very similar to my old G34. I really like it.
Wondering Beard
09-25-2024, 07:51 AM
Shooting a 45 and 47 side by side, I perceive a noticeable, albeit negligible difference in recoil between the two. The 47 feels softer to me, less flippy, and overall easier to shoot…but like most, your mileage may vary.
And how does it compare to a G17?
Magsz
09-25-2024, 12:55 PM
And how does it compare to a G17?
I second this question.
Super curious as to how the shorter recoil spring feels with the longer slide versus the extended length G17.5 recoil spring.
I’ve had all the Gen 5 9mm variants except the 34. The G47 “feels” the best for my style of shooting, it’s a bit softer than the G45 which seems to cycle a bit faster, the G17 is closer to the G45 but doesn’t return as precisely for me. The G19 is snappy and returns like the G45 but the shorter stock isn’t as shootable as the full size (when shooting very aggressively). The G26 just continues down the G19 path for me. But at the end of the day they’re all just Glocks, pick the one you like best and get on with your life.
A couple of months ago I spent a range session shooting G34/G47/G45 back to back - all with irons (Dawsons). Mostly bill drills, with times ranging between 2:95s and 3:30s.
My training journal notes state: "G34 shoots the softest. G47 reminds me of 17. G45 fast sight alignment but more snappy. Noticeable difference between G34 and G47. Very subtle if any difference between G47 and G45".
A couple of months ago I spent a range session shooting G34/G47/G45 back to back - all with irons (Dawsons). Mostly bill drills, with times ranging between 2:95s and 3:30s.
My training journal notes state: "G34 shoots the softest. G47 reminds me of 17. G45 fast sight alignment but more snappy. Noticeable difference between G34 and G47. Very subtle if any difference between G47 and G45".
Was one of those, the G34 or G47, closer to the 2:95's consistently, or closer to the 3:30's consistently.
Was one of those, the G34 or G47, closer to the 2:95's consistently, or closer to the 3:30's consistently.
The G34 was marginally faster for me, but the bill drill is a very limited 'test'.
I generally prefer the 34 for its recoil characteristics, but please dont read to much into it. It is the Glock I shot the most in the past year. Had I shot a G47 the same amount, the G47 could easily be the one I performed the best with.
The interesting part for me that is there was a clear difference in recoil and tracking between the 34 and 47, but very little I could discern between the 47 and 45.
maximus83
09-26-2024, 12:47 PM
The G34 was marginally faster for me, but the bill drill is a very limited 'test'.
I generally prefer the 34 for its recoil characteristics, but please dont read to much into it. It is the Glock I shot the most in the past year. Had I shot a G47 the same amount, the G47 could easily be the one I performed the best with.
The interesting part for me that is there was a clear difference in recoil and tracking between the 34 and 47, but very little I could discern between the 47 and 45.
Great info as data points in your previous post and this one. I've never owned nor shot a G34. But my subjective impressions of shooting my G45 when I had one, versus my G47, are similar to yours. I could tell a small difference with the recoil impulse and tracking with the G47 over the G45, but the difference was not huge, certainly not worth upgrading to a G47 if you already have a G45 that shoots well. But my G47 is my favorite Glock right now: soft-shooting, easy to get a good grip index, and accurate. In fact, it's tied with my 1911 9mm commander for being the pistol I'm most accurate with. Similar idea to what someone posted just recently about the G34's accuracy in the Freestyle shooting thread in the marksmanship forum. My stock G47 is so good, it has made me question whether I want to spend more $$$ on expensive grail guns like a Staccato or another custom 1911.
sharps54
11-24-2024, 10:54 AM
So now that both have been out for a little while for the private citizen who isn't worried about parts compatibility with other pistols is there a compelling reason to go with the G17gen5 over the G47 or the G47 over the G17gen5?
steve
11-24-2024, 11:17 AM
So now that both have been out for a little while for the private citizen who isn't worried about parts compatibility with other pistols is there a compelling reason to go with the G17gen5 over the G47 or the G47 over the G17gen5?
The G47 will be MOS and the G17 will not.
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