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JCN
09-02-2022, 10:04 PM
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DDTSGM
09-02-2022, 10:25 PM
I voted don't care. I like to shoot.

Timer tells me SAO Hammer but who wouldn't prefer a nice 1911 trigger or a Cajunized CZ75B SA?

Also, could get by with DA/SA or striker as long as it has nice a trigger and sights and is semi-accurate.

MattyD380
09-02-2022, 10:33 PM
I voted hammer. But not because of anything that’s inherent to hammer-fired guns. Hammer-fired guns are just more likely to have a true DA option, or a safety if they’re SAO. Striker-fired guns are more likely to have something closer to SAO with no safety.

For instance, the Walther P99 is striker, but gives me exactly what I want; I really don’t care what mechanism pops the primer.

Redhat
09-02-2022, 11:43 PM
Hammer for me...DA/SA to be exact

SecondsCount
09-03-2022, 12:14 AM
I carry a hammer fired gun, mostly for safety reasons - LEM, but I shoot a striker fired gun on a regular basis.

CCT125US
09-03-2022, 09:34 AM
Hammer (LEM) for carry. Never took to strikers, someday I hear they may catch on.

lee n. field
09-03-2022, 10:02 AM
Hammer, striker or don’t care?

Don't care. One of those things that people on the Internet care about, that doesn't matter as much as they think it does.

Clusterfrack
09-03-2022, 10:07 AM
While I view Glock as my default handgun, I carry a TDA CZ P-07 with a decocker. I shoot both well, but prefer the CZ for a few reasons. 1) I compete in USPSA with Shadow2s, and the P-07 is similar; practice carries over better to my carry gun. 2) The P-07 uses an unusually simple mechanism for a TDA, and has similar durability and robustness advantages of a Glock. 3) For me, the P-07 is ergonomically the best carry-size gun I have found. 4) The P-07's relatively short 6.5# DA pull is light enough to be fast and accurate, but long enough to be safer than a striker-fired gun for defensive use.

Because of the simplicity of a Glock type action, I think it's a better choice for most people. Two types of trigger pull, and the requirement to decock make the TDA a poor choice for anyone without solid training and regular practice.

I do not like: SA-only guns with a safety (actually any handgun with a safety), striker-fired guns with light, short triggers, large DA revolvers, and TDAs with heavy DA pulls > 8 lbs, overly complex actions with lots of small fiddly parts (most TDA guns).

DMCutter
09-03-2022, 10:07 AM
I had been trying to convince myself that my MR918 and MR920s are "the Way" but I'm falling in love with my V1 USP compact 9 and 40 all over again, so much so that I've recently bought another one of each.

pangloss
09-03-2022, 10:36 AM
I don't care much. Glock is my favorite, but I really like the P30 too. It's good to have choices. Actually, I really like a lot of pistols...

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Rex G
09-03-2022, 10:56 AM
All of the above, of course.

I use 1911, Third-Generation S&W, and Seecamp pistols with hammers. I use revolving pistols with hammers*.

I use Glocks, with strikers.

I Don’t Care what anyone thinks about my choices. ;)

*Edited to add: “Hammerless” revolving pistols actually do have hammers. Look at the parts diagrams. (Perhaps, there are some few very rare, esoteric exceptions, somewhere, back there, in history.)

Rex G
09-03-2022, 11:06 AM
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Well, OK, I like this hammer. I had to “drop” this hammer, once upon a time, in a century that was long ago. Had I not done so, I would have been injured, or perhaps killed. Running was not an option. I had others to defend, not just myself.

Yes, my finger IS is on the trigger. This was part of a series of images, showing my firing grip.

I like hammers.

BK14
09-03-2022, 11:15 AM
My primary guns I carry are striker fired. However I also have a 1911 that I love, and have previously owned, and would own again a revolver. Conceptually I prefer a hammer fired gun for the reholstering in appendix safety aspect, but in application I carry strikers.

willie
09-03-2022, 11:45 AM
I grew up shooting hammer guns. The CZ P-07 is ideal. However, I'm training Mrs. Willie to use HK P-30 V1 lem pistols to complement her J frames. She has a light equipped P-30L and a P-30SK for home use. Her secure shop building has a hidden revolver. Her tool bag kept near her when working in the yard has a 4 inch Model 10.

BehindBlueI's
09-03-2022, 12:46 PM
Preference for hammers, but in the same way I prefer burritos to tacos. If I can order either, I'll get the burrito, but I'm not complaining if tacos are the option of the day. Burritos are also less messy appendix carry. Wait, what was the question?

Seriously, appendix carry and the lack of an SCD style option for the majority of striker fired guns, a strong resistance to switching platforms due to hatred for expanded logistics and a general feeling nothing is really any better than what I've already got, and a general like of TDA guns for a decision making under stress pistol means I would likely be with the Sig P2XX until death do us part without work related pressures.

P30
09-03-2022, 01:49 PM
4) The P-07's relatively short 6.5# DA pull is light enough to be fast and accurate, but long enough to be safer than a striker-fired gun for defensive use.
According to CZ (https://www.czub.cz/en/firearms-and-products-product/cz-p-07), the DA trigger pull weight is 44 N ± 2 N = 9.9 lb ± 0.4 lb. How come the trigger pull weight of your P-07 is so low?

Clusterfrack
09-03-2022, 01:52 PM
According to CZ (https://www.czub.cz/en/firearms-and-products-product/cz-p-07), the DA trigger pull weight is 44 N ± 2 N = 9.9 lb ± 0.4 lb. How come the trigger pull weight of your P-07 is so low?

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UNM1136
09-03-2022, 02:10 PM
It is the singer, not the song. It is the indian, not the arrow.

I have all of the above, and with a few minutes of dry fire a day, I can move from one to the other without issue. That includes carry positions, holsters, and everything else.

I know.. Gonna get kilt on the streetz. But there it is.

pat

jd950
09-03-2022, 02:19 PM
I would likely be with the Sig P2XX until death do us part without work related pressures.


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BillSWPA
09-03-2022, 03:27 PM
I voted don't care. On any given day, I am almost 100% likely to carry a striker fired gun. However, striker v. hammer is never one of my criteria when looking to buy a gun. My favorite gun to shoot remains a 1911. I do not appendix carry, so the reholstering issue is much less relevant to me.

Wondering Beard
09-03-2022, 04:15 PM
I began with a Glock 19 in the late 80s, If I ever end up in a "from my cold dead hands" place, it will probably be with a Glock 19.

Nothing against anything else, what works, works.

TheNewbie
09-03-2022, 04:49 PM
Prefer a hammer. A hammer/manual safety combo like on the Hi-Power would be neat.

Would like a great manual safety on a Glock but that’s not going to happen. The SCD and NY1 combo work decently for a shootable and safe gun.

CSW
09-08-2022, 05:36 AM
Hammer please.
1911 commander. 9mm
92 Centurion. 9mm
3" revolver. 38sp.

Had many Glocks, and the M&P 2.0. Walther p99. XD9.

Out of all the strikers, I liked the G26 and a 4" XD9 the best.

the Schwartz
09-08-2022, 05:47 AM
Have both.
Like both.
Not sure if that means that I do care or don't since I don't care if I do. Or don't.

JHC
09-08-2022, 06:21 AM
Voted don't care but there's a caveat. I am not inclined to own a fully tensioned striker fired design. I could imagine doing so with a very well executed thumb safety.

JonInWA
09-08-2022, 07:17 AM
I have all of the above. I like examples of all of the above. For a duty gun with threat management likely to be in the equation, I'm inclined to go with a DAO or LEM (Beretta 92D ir HK P30L V1.5 LEM).

Generally, if I'm T & E'ing a gun or component(s), I'll use that gun in all of my use venues (EDC, competition, duty, home defense).

If I'm inaccurate with, or don't trust a gun, it goes away.

Best, Jon

UpDok
09-08-2022, 07:33 AM
I greatly prefer hammer, specially HK's LEM, but I carry a striker. I guess I'm just a slave to fate

Doc_Glock
09-08-2022, 08:24 AM
Don’t care. But lean Striker I like the lower bore axis they allow. And they seem just less likely to catch on things in the environment. Not to mention simplicity of build and function.

The results of this poll tell me that Hammer guys -really- like hammers. And striker folks are kind of agnostic.

Strikers and DAO for me.

JohnO
09-08-2022, 08:36 AM
If it has a trigger and goes Bang I'm not concerned about how it happens.

LockedBreech
09-08-2022, 09:40 AM
I learned on hammer, I have the most rounds on hammer, I think hammer is generally more reliable setting off hard primers, and that hammer generally has a safety advantage.

However, all of my serious guns are strikers now. Whatever my subjective feelings are, the range doesn't lie and I shoot strikers better.

To clarify, once my Beretta 92s or my CZ-75BD are in single-action mode I shoot them as well or better than my striker guns, but those first two shots, the dreaded DA/SA transition, are reliably less accurate for me than the first two shots with a striker. I try not to live my life based on statistics, but it feels intuitively that those first two shots could be the most critical ones in a self-defense encounter.

Though that wasn't actually what drew me to go full strikers. The fact of the matter is that there just is not an all-sizes, same platform solution for hammer guns like there is for Glocks or M&Ps. Plenty of full sizes and compacts but the subcompact hammer world just isn't really there. I wanted a consistent variety of trigger across range/home defense, heavy conceal, and light conceal. It pays dividends, too. I went to the range with my Glock 17 after a shamefully long training lapse and I was nailing 4-5 consecutive dueling tree shots at 25 yards by the end of the first magazine. Striker triggers will never have the finesse in my hands that a 92 trigger or 75 trigger can have, but it seems much easier to remember how to ride the bike, so to speak.

I must credit at least some of that Glock 17 range success to the notably improved barrel of the Gen 5 17. I can be good with my Gen 4 17, but I can be great with my Gen 5.

Irelander
09-08-2022, 11:25 AM
I shot Glocks for many years but there was always something about them that didn't work for me ergonomics wise. When I started carrying AIWB I just didn't feel comfortable with strikers. The SCD mitigated most of that fear. I bought an HK P2000SK V2 and fell in love with LEM. It was the easy button coming from Glocks for simplicity (no extra levers). I doubt I'll go back to strikers. The security of being able to thumb the hammer when holstering and the ergonomics that come with hammer guns will keep me in that lane.