New Ruger LC Carbine

[MolonLabe416]

https://ruger.com/products/lcCarbine/specSheets/19300.html

[Glenn E. Meyer]

I guess they are banking on no new AWBs and sales not in some big states?

Otherwise, looks like fun.

[HCM]

While the P90 is a neat design, 5.7 is like the official cartridge of Dunning Krueger…

[Tokarev]

Oops. 5 hours late. And here I was thinking I was about to drop a news scoop.

I am a fan of neither the Ruger pistol carbine nor the R-57 pistol. I don't see how I'd be a fan of this creation.

If anything this may have been a nifty 10/22 variant. Something not unlike the PCC but lighter and handier. Heck it might even be kind of neat in a little bolt gun.

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[Joe Mac]

5.7 is like the official cartridge of Dunning Krueger…

This.

Now, if that little guy was chambered in 9mm with a Glock mag option, and ran reliably, we'd be getting somewhere.

[CleverNickname]

If this was big "handgun" with a 5-7" barrel that you could put a brace on (or SBR) then I think it would make more sense. Basically a Keltec PMR-30 in 5.7 with better build quality. But I don't see the attraction of a 16" 5.7 rifle. Why would anyone go with that instead of a 5.56mm AR15? The AR's going to be just as handy, and shoot a ballistically-superior yet cheaper round.

[ECVMatt]

If 5.7 were ridiculously cheap this would be a fun plinker. Since it is not, I don't see a purpose for this rifle. I will stick with my .22 Mag for small varmints and be happy.

[zaitcev]

It would be great if they made a version of LC Charger in 9mm, not just 5.7.

At one point I converted a PC Charger to the traditional pistol layout, and the result was underwhelming on the account of how tall the fire control was. I even changed the safety from the factory cross-bolt to Uzi style thumb slider safety, and won a couple of mm, but nonetheless the result was not great. The magazine in the photo is a Glock 17 magazine, and even so the grip was uncomfortably short. The LC platform is already made with this in mind.

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[Joe in PNG]

I'll admit that the LCC does kind of trip my stoopid wantsies switch.

[Notorious E.O.C.]

While the P90 is a neat design, 5.7 is like the official cartridge of Dunning Krueger…

And its recent resurgence is mind-boggling. Did some Kel-Tec employee stumble upon a rich SS190 vein while prospecting for purple polymer in the Sierra Madre?

[Screwball]

If I had extra cash and less projects, I’d consider that and the pistol… only if they do the carbine like the pistol and offer without the manual safety. My Rugged Oculus is 5.7mm rated, so could be fun.

[zaitcev]

It would be great if they made a version of LC Charger in 9mm, not just 5.7.

At one point I converted a PC Charger to the traditional pistol layout ...

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One other thing. If you watch Forgotten Weapons video from the Cheek Pistol wave, at the 07:50 mark you can hear Ian saying:
"Alliright, so... I think that (Cheek Pistol) is a fascinating concept. It's too bad there isn't a better gun."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhfluziKZBY

Chris Baker made the same point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFnKCNKRBK0

So I thought: "Indeed. But what if we could _make_ a better gun that allowed one to run matches with a 9mm Cheek Pistol? We have a the technology." So I made one.

This may also explain why Ruger chose magazine-in-grip layout. Yes, it's expeditious to use the Ruger 57 fire control. And, there may be some sales in California. But also, what if that Cheek Pistol thing is not just a flash in the pan? And what if all it needs is a better gun?

The upcoming Ruger LC Charger is shaping like that better gun for Cheek Pistol.

[Thy.Will.Be.Done]

One other thing. If you watch Forgotten Weapons video from the Cheek Pistol wave, at the 07:50 mark you can hear Ian saying:
"Alliright, so... I think that (Cheek Pistol) is a fascinating concept. It's too bad there isn't a better gun."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhfluziKZBY

Chris Baker made the same point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFnKCNKRBK0

So I thought: "Indeed. But what if we could _make_ a better gun that allowed one to run matches with a 9mm Cheek Pistol? We have a the technology." So I made one.

This may also explain why Ruger chose magazine-in-grip layout. Yes, it's expeditious to use the Ruger 57 fire control. And, there may be some sales in California. But also, what if that Cheek Pistol thing is not just a flash in the pan? And what if all it needs is a better gun?

The upcoming Ruger LC Charger is shaping like that better gun for Cheek Pistol.

It honestly looks like the best fit yet for that role but I immediately thought it would be great option for children and those of limited stature/strength.

[Chuck Whitlock]

It honestly looks like the best fit yet for that role but I immediately thought it would be great option for children and those of limited stature/strength.

"Old Man Carbine", centerfire edition?

[Navin Johnson]

I believe the 5.7 is popular in gaming (video) thus there is a market

[awp_101]

If 5.7 were ridiculously cheap this would be a fun plinker. Since it is not, I don't see a purpose for this rifle. I will stick with my .22 Mag for small varmints and be happy.
For a while I’ve thought of the commercially available 5.7 loads as a reloadable .22 Mag. There might be some benefit there if one is a reloader (I’m not).

I like it for the gee whiz factor but I can’t see getting one for the same reason I can’t talk myself into a .22 Mag. All I shoot is paper so LR works just fine.

[ECVMatt]

I like it for the gee whiz factor but I can’t see getting one for the same reason I can’t talk myself into a .22 Mag. All I shoot is paper so LR works just fine.


I agree, .22LR is for fun and target shooting and the .22 Mag is for hunting. It hammers pretty hard on coyote sized and smaller game inside of a 100 yards. It is great for prairie dog sized game further than 100.

I am intrigued by a 5.7 Ruger American mini sized bolt action. I know that will probably never happen and I am sure I'm the only one who would buy one, but I think that would be a fun rifle for general varminting.

I would like to see how accurate this rifle turns out to be.

[zaitcev]

I am intrigued by a 5.7 Ruger American mini sized bolt action. I know that will probably never happen and I am sure I'm the only one who would buy one, but I think that would be a fun rifle for general varminting.
Savage used to make a bolt action. Maybe it can still be found.
Also, as usual, small time shops make 5.7 barrels for Thompson Center.