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Reports of shots fired at Dallas Love Field. NFI.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dallas-police-investigate-shots-fired-at-airport-crowds-evacuate
scjbash
07-25-2022, 12:53 PM
A woman fired several shots at the ceiling and was shot by an officer. No other injuries.
Suvorov
07-25-2022, 12:55 PM
A woman fired several shots at the ceiling and was shot by an officer. No other injuries.
Hard not to imagine a suicide by cops.
Glad to hear as I have a lot of coworkers and friends in and out of DAL.
A woman fired several shots at the ceiling and was shot by an officer. No other injuries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWZTTtE5_zQ
Shotgun
07-25-2022, 01:11 PM
Perhaps an odd comment--
If this was indeed suicide by cops, at least she had the balls (so to speak) and the human decency not to go in and shoot a bunch of others before accomplishing her goal.
A woman fired several shots at the ceiling and was shot by an officer. No other injuries.
Unpossible. If there were several shots into the ceiling, the incident would have taken place at a local indoor shooting range. *rimshot*
But seriously: Sounds like a successful outcome. What the hell are people thinking these days.
Guerrero
07-25-2022, 01:59 PM
Unpossible. If there were several shots into the ceiling, the incident would have taken place at a local indoor shooting range. *rimshot*
But seriously: Sounds like a successful outcome. What the hell are people thinking these days.
https://youtu.be/VjGk5SsIAqo?t=8
Freaking shot her in the legs. Ughhhh
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Freaking shot her in the legs. Ughhhh
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Just about a week ago a neighboring county's SWAT team was dealing with a guy holding a woman hostage . . . with an axe.
SWAT shot him the arm and the episode was resolved.
I wouldn't be surprised if contrary to American doctrine, some are looking the limbs as targets of less hassle. GIGN style.
Hambo
07-25-2022, 04:24 PM
Freaking shot her in the legs. Ughhhh
Were lower extremities the aiming point, or the body part that happened to be where the shots went?
Jim Watson
07-25-2022, 04:57 PM
Are the airport detachment students of the Israeli nonfatal shots to extremities technique like the chief in Georgia we saw here a while back?
feudist
07-25-2022, 08:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWZTTtE5_zQ
Spent many a Roll Call grinding my teeth and thinking "Must...not..."
1Rangemaster
07-25-2022, 09:15 PM
NY POST has a cell phone vid up on its site now. Also isolated photo of officer moving forward…
Speculating, but it seemed the shot was from some distance. Officer could have “pulled low”.
In any event, good on him; he immediately engaged and moved forward. Video records one shot, which seemingly took the fight out of the shooter.
NY POST has a cell phone vid up on its site now. Also isolated photo of officer moving forward…
Speculating, but it seemed the shot was from some distance. Officer could have “pulled low”.
In any event, good on him; he immediately engaged and moved forward. Video records one shot, which seemingly took the fight out of the shooter.
https://nypost.com/2022/07/25/footage-shows-moment-police-shoot-dallas-airport-suspect/
Were lower extremities the aiming point, or the body part that happened to be where the shots went?
Think back to before you retired. How many officers did you see pulling shots a foot or two low at 15 and 25 yards during qualifications?
I just worked the range today and watched one of our guys “chopping wood” I.e. hitting the plywood under the full size silhouette target at 15 yards.
Hambo
07-26-2022, 04:54 AM
Think back to before you retired. How many officers did you see pulling shots a foot or two low at 15 and 25 yards during qualifications?
It happened in OIS as well.
It happened in OIS as well.
Yup.
1Rangemaster
07-26-2022, 09:42 AM
Thanks HCM for the link.
Just noted the officer involved running what appears to be irons. Can’t identify pistol mfg.-anyone have any idea?
Just curious.
I’m still giving him an “A” for attitude and mindset-better than a lot of officers, IMO.
News this AMhas the woman (can I still use that term?) as mentally unfit. And so it goes…
Glenn E. Meyer
07-26-2022, 11:52 AM
Just about a week ago a neighboring county's SWAT team was dealing with a guy holding a woman hostage . . . with an axe.
SWAT shot him the arm and the episode was resolved.
I wouldn't be surprised if contrary to American doctrine, some are looking the limbs as targets of less hassle. GIGN style.
There's a well know video of a suicidal guy sitting in a lawn chair and an officer shooting gun out of his hand deliberately.
https://www.police1.com/police-products/firearms/videos/sniper-shoots-gun-out-of-suicidal-mans-hand-pCTmbYwTmwePxHWo/
There's a well know video of a suicidal guy sitting in a lawn chair and an officer shooting gun out of his hand deliberately.
https://www.police1.com/police-products/firearms/videos/sniper-shoots-gun-out-of-suicidal-mans-hand-pCTmbYwTmwePxHWo/
That was a police sniper with a scoped bolt action rifle and it’s a unique instance.
Thanks HCM for the link.
Just noted the officer involved running what appears to be irons. Can’t identify pistol mfg.-anyone have any idea?
Just curious.
I’m still giving him an “A” for attitude and mindset-better than a lot of officers, IMO.
News this AMhas the woman (can I still use that term?) as mentally unfit. And so it goes…
Apparently she was arrested for a note passing type bank robbery in 2019 and was not prosecuted due to concerns about her mental competence
Video of the incident:
https://youtu.be/0PZ-opxJ_9A
Check out the computer check in kiosk the Officer was standing behind. When they show his body camera footage it looks like he put a round into the screen.
Watch his muzzle flip when he’s shooting- I’m guessing he was surprised and didn’t get a solid master grip from the holster.
Paul D
07-26-2022, 06:50 PM
Video of the incident:
https://youtu.be/0PZ-opxJ_9A
Check out the computer check in kiosk the Officer was standing behind. When they show his body camera footage it looks like he put a round into the screen.
Watch his muzzle flip when he’s shooting- I’m guessing he was surprised and didn’t get a solid master grip from the holster.
Whoa that was close! That bystander lady was crouching right underneath that screen.
Rex G
07-26-2022, 06:56 PM
Just about a week ago a neighboring county's SWAT team was dealing with a guy holding a woman hostage . . . with an axe.
SWAT shot him the arm and the episode was resolved.
I wouldn't be surprised if contrary to American doctrine, some are looking the limbs as targets of less hassle. GIGN style.
Now that I am retired, I can say that I certainly did consider the possibility of using a shot, to a limb, especially a lower limb, if the particular circumstances were to make it seem a good idea, at a given moment in time. That was one reason, among several, that I tended to bring the shotgun with me, so much of the time, when I exited the patrol car. Not that a leg hit is going to be non-fatal, to the recipient, of course.
Notably, I was only trained to use pelvic shots as a plan B, in the event of an opponent wearing armor, or otherwise failing to stop, when shot in the torso, but, working an urban area, I knew that downward-angle shots, with non-rifled round pellets, would have a far shorter range of lethal potential, to anyone beyond the bad guy. At night, folks far enough down-range might be obscured by darkness. (This was one of the reasons I preferred a shotgun, as my long gun, as I mostly worked night shift.) To be clear, I am not talking about “skipping pellets off the pavement,” as an intentional less-lethal technique, to be used against unarmed opponents.
At least some of our SWAT guys did not like “tactical buck,” because one bad guy, in one of their incidents, stopped most of the pellets in his forward-reaching arms, suffering little torso damage. Well, as I see it, the weapon was instantly blown out of his hands, so, it seems, to me, that the mission was accomplished. (I do not recall the weapon, but seem to remember that it was a firearm.)
I am not any kind of expert, in these matters; just a now-retired big-city street cop.
Now that I am retired, I can say that I certainly did consider the possibility of using a shot, to a limb, especially a lower limb, if the particular circumstances were to make it seem a good idea, at a given moment in time. That was one reason, among several, that I tended to bring the shotgun with me, so much of the time, when I exited the patrol car. Not that a leg hit is going to be non-fatal, to the recipient, of course.
Notably, I was only trained to use pelvic shots as a plan B, in the event of an opponent wearing armor, or otherwise failing to stop, when shot in the torso, but, working an urban area, I knew that downward-angle shots, with non-rifled round pellets, would have a far shorter range of lethal potential, to anyone beyond the bad guy. At night, folks far enough down-range might be obscured by darkness. (This was one of the reasons I preferred a shotgun, as my long gun, as I mostly worked night shift.) To be clear, I am not talking about “skipping pellets off the pavement,” as an intentional less-lethal technique, to be used against unarmed opponents.
At least some of our SWAT guys did not like “tactical buck,” because one bad guy, in one of their incidents, stopped most of the pellets in his forward-reaching arms, suffering little torso damage. Well, as I see it, the weapon was instantly blown out of his hands, so, it seems, to me, that the mission was accomplished. (I do not recall the weapon, but seem to remember that it was a firearm.)
I am not any kind of expert, in these matters; just a now-retired big-city street cop.
IMO that sounds like solid "problem solving" that at times may diverge from the official approved doctrine of the day.
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